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xx September Metal Detecting Finds from Germany (very long)
Oct 02, 2008, 04:43:16 AM by Thorsten
Hi all,

some of the “older” forum members might still remember me. Used to post a lot in earlier years but did hardly do any detecting in 2006 and 2007. Now as we have a nice Fall here in Germany I spent a few days out metal detecting and found a few pieces.

NOTE: As html is turned off on this forum you need to click on the link to see the pictures.

My favourite detecting area is a certain patch of woodland, very hilly, and it is very easy to lose orientation.
<img align="center" src="http://adventurehistory.com/tmp20080930/landschaft1K.jpg">

Germany is a densely populated country, much more so than the US, and few places are still “wild”. Most forest look quite orderly but this one is an exception. On one of my recon walks I came across this “hut” apparently created by a homeless person. This was just the second time in my 8 years of detecting I found something like that. Note the grill for an occasional BBQ in the foreground.
<img align="center" src="http://adventurehistory.com/tmp20080930/UnterstandK.jpg">

Nearby, someone had built a sort of tent on a hilltop. Especially esoteric people like to be in such tents during certain nights in Summer, e.g. the shortest night June 21.
<img align="center" src="http://adventurehistory.com/tmp20080930/WeidenzeltK.jpg ">

The area has a good historical background from antiquity over medieval to modern times. Theoretically somewhere here must have been a Roman road 1900 years ago but nobody knows exactly where.

When I started detecting it soon became clear that the area was infested with World War 2 remains. There were many fragments of bombs and shells. The picture shows some of the ubiquitous iron splinters.
<img align="center" src="http://adventurehistory.com/tmp20080930/SplitterUndBrandbombenbodenK.jpg">

The iron was designed to break leaving sharp edges and they continue to remain so to the present day. The item on the left is what is left of a hexagonal British incendiary bomb. Its thermite filling burned so hot it melted the concrete coating. Today, the molten copper parts of the bomb are covered with green patina. When detectorists find them they think for a second they found a bronze age item burned as a gift to the Gods. Their hearts misses a beat before they realize all they have found is WW2 junk.
<img align="center" src="http://adventurehistory.com/tmp20080930/BrandbombeFragment3LeuchtspurK.jpg">



While complete bombs (duds) are fortunately seldom I managed to find two in a single day. The red end is made from steel to penetrate the roof of hit house.
<img align="center" src="http://adventurehistory.com/tmp20080930/BrandbombeBlindgaengerSpuleK.jpg">

The area contained no bombing targets. Probably the bombs were aimed at factories several kms distant and missed. Just three finds indicated the presence of German soldiers. An ammo clip for the K98k carbine, a Wehrmacht tent hook produced in 1940 and a K98k round with black head indicating a rare tracer round.
<img align="center" src="http://adventurehistory.com/tmp20080930/K98kMunClipK.jpg ">
<img align="center" src="http://adventurehistory.com/tmp20080930/ZeltheringWehrmachtLeuchtspurK98K.jpg">

The only US projectile was this cal. 50 bullet:
<img align="center" src="http://adventurehistory.com/tmp20080930/BMG50K.jpg">


The first historical finds was this thorn spur of the 8. to 12. century and a lance shoe (dark). Not in bad shape for nearly 1000 years in the ground. The small iron pieces on the left were attached to the spur’s leather strap.
<img align="center" src="http://adventurehistory.com/tmp20080930/DornspornMesserK.jpg">

Next came the remains of a muzzle loaded gun of the 18. or early 19. century. Only the 90 cm / 35 “ barrel survived along with possible remains of the buttstock.
<img align="center" src="http://adventurehistory.com/tmp20080930/GewehrUndIch2K.jpg">

The gun was found in an abandoned hollow way. Find spot in the foreground.
<img align="center" src="http://adventurehistory.com/tmp20080930/GewehrFundlage2K.jpg">

Next items were a sickle and a knife. While the sickle cannot be dated other than being at least 100 years old I date the knife to be medieval, i.e. 500 to 1500 years old. Modern knifes are common junk finds but this is a nice old piece
<img align="center" src="http://adventurehistory.com/tmp20080930/Messer3K.jpg">
<img align="center" src="http://adventurehistory.com/tmp20080930/Sichel4K.jpg">


Countless iron bomb fragments later I found this lovely Roman fibula.
<img align="center" src="http://adventurehistory.com/tmp20080930/Fibel1K.jpg">
<img align="center" src="http://adventurehistory.com/tmp20080930/Fibel2K.jpg">


In antiquity and medieval times the button was not invented yet so people used a sort of safety pin called fibula. Fibulas were often expensive pieces and showed the social status of their bearers. The most elaborated have been found in King’s graves. Since they changed their shape with fashion they can be dated very well, almost as good as coins.
This one belonged to a Roman soldier or civil servant of rather low rank and dates to AD 300 to 340. Cleaning is not finished yet. It is made from gold plated bronze and some 6 cm / 2.5” long. While slightly damaged it is in good general condition. Even the pin is intact. That was my first 100% Roman find in this area. It is always a special feeling to be the first person after 1700 years to hold an item and to imagine its last owner and the world he lived in.

The next find was another spur. The wheel type is younger than the thorn type shown above. It might be some 400-500 years old.
<img align="center" src="http://adventurehistory.com/tmp20080930/RadspornK.jpg">

While the exact age of this bronze bell is unknown I think it is at least 500 years old. Its spherical form, however, differs from the known types of antique or medieval (=older than 500 years) bells. Like the other older finds it has been reported to the state archaeologists and maybe they can date it.
<img align="center" src="http://adventurehistory.com/tmp20080930/GlockeBatterieK.jpg">

On the last day of September I encountered an iffy signal. With each swing of the coil the conductivity reading changed slightly. This happens when the object is of irregular shape or if its very deep. I dig almost everything since I don’t want to lose small historic iron items like the knife above. So I started to dig. When the hole was 15, 20 and 25 cm / 10 inch deep I pinpointed again. Usually most of my targets are not deeper than 20 cm. The detector insisted the object was right where the hole was. I was suspicious several small objects in the walls might appear like a big one. That way once I dug a deep hole before I noticed I was digging in the center of the rim of a bicycle wheel…
I continued digging wishing I had a spade and not just a gardening digging tool.

At 30 cm my small hand detector finally gave a signal. Some sort of iron ring appeared. I had reached the top of a very deep metal object. To make it short, after one hour and with aching fingers I removed this iron item from the ground some 40-45 cm deep. It is some 20 cm / 8“ long.
<img align="center" src="http://adventurehistory.com/tmp20080930/HipposandaleK.jpg">

It is a Roman horseshoe – called “hipposandal” - in excellent condition. Buried in the ground for 2000 years and excavated Sept. 30, 2008. The loops were used to tie this shoe to the feet of the horse with a leather strap. I saw such items in literature or museums but never dreamt of finding one myself. No other detectorist I know personally has ever found one. A fantastic end for the detecting month, a great cabinet piece, a good hint to the disappeared Roman road and the best encouragement for detecting in October!

Greetings from Germany.
HH Thorsten from www.adventurehistory.com

<img align="center" src="http://adventurehistory.com/tmp20080930/HipposandaleUndIch1K.jpg">

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xx off to Cyprus next year
Sep 15, 2008, 12:00:43 PM by sweatysock
anyone know the score re beach detecting on the Greek side of Cyprus ?
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xx MDing in the Netherlands (Holland)
Aug 23, 2008, 03:12:59 AM by Hellcat
Howdy folks,

be going to Holland in a couple of weeks and was wondering if it was worth taking my MD with.

Anyone advise me on the rules for MDing over there.

Cheers m'dears
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xx Headed to Belgium this summer, wwii battlefield maps suggestions???
Jun 21, 2008, 08:01:43 AM by fastinjun
Im headed to the ardennes and Bastogne area this summer. Anyone know of good battlefield maps for this area?
Thanks in advance
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xx MDing rules for Denmark and Norway?
Jun 17, 2008, 09:45:57 AM by Polarbeer
I'm wondering how the legislation for MDing is in Denmark and Norway. I live in Sweden and here it's regulated pretty hard. Anyone that can guide me to a source that explains legislations for each country?

cheers
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xx Great English Metal Detecting Website
Jun 05, 2008, 07:26:32 PM by Fishstank
I'm not sure this is the place but I talked with a gentlemen who goes to England every summer
in search of really old treasure. The name of London way back was called Colchester.

These guys and gals really know how to hunt. Check it out!!


www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk

Thanks,
Fishstank



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xx switzerland ?
Apr 30, 2008, 08:33:21 PM by wailinmacs
I'm traveling to Switzerland this summer. i was thinking of bringing the detector. anyone have any info on legalities of treasure hunting this country? any info would be a great help.
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xx MDing in Finland
Jan 15, 2008, 08:11:28 AM by Numinen
Hi I wish to know Rules & regulations for MDing in Finland if there are any online forms to download & how to aply for permission.

Thanks in Advance

Numinen
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xx Metal detecting in Augsburg, Germany
May 17, 2007, 08:58:42 PM by James57
HI,

I will probably be traveling to Augsburg in July on business.  I will be installing some machines and I will likely have some free time.  I would like to bring my metal detector to do a little hunting. Can anyone tell me what the laws in Germany are for metal detectors?  Are there any metal detecting clubs that have organized hunts?  Any info would be appreciated, thanks!
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xx Norwegian or Scandinavian treasures
Feb 01, 2007, 02:44:27 PM by JohnnyO
Pleas help me out here.. Me and a friend are from Norway and we are trying to find some lost old things/treasures.
We have tried to find some books about this subject but unfortuantly we could not find anything.
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xx Metal Detecting in Spain Catalunya
Jan 04, 2007, 10:08:57 AM by LandSea
I've spent two years detecting in Spain - mainly on the Costa Brava Coast. Some super finds on the beaches that are not accessed by Tourists - any one interested in detecting this part of Spain - post a message here.
Ray -L'Estartit, Girona, Spain
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xx Some finds from recent hunts in Germany
Oct 22, 2006, 05:28:27 AM by Thorsten
Hi all,

as we are currently experiencing a golden Autumn here in Germany usually I am out and searching at the weekends. Winter will arrive soon enough. But this weekend it was enough searching on Friday and relax Saturday and Sunday. Maybe some pictures from the last hunts might be interesting for somebody.

(Note: As html is turned off in this forum pictures will not show automatically. Please click on the link if you wish to see a picture.)

My searches brought me to battlefields of the 1500s and the 1800s. As so often, on both occasions much more WW2 stuff was found than contemporary pieces.

Here is a US WW2 Garand ammo clip
<img src="http://www.adventurehistory.com/tmp/AmmoClip6mm85.jpg">

followed by some WW2 ammo boxes of unknown nationality 
<img src="http://www.adventurehistory.com/tmp/20061022/Blechbehaelter.jpg">


These pieces were found on a hang so not too many people went there after WW2.
<img src="http://www.adventurehistory.com/tmp/20061022/Hang.jpg">

German K98k ammo bag
<img src="http://www.adventurehistory.com/tmp/20061022/K98MunTascheUndPatronen.jpg">

Among the most unpleasant remains of WW2 are 2 cm grenades, either duds...
<img src="http://www.adventurehistory.com/tmp/20061022/Blindgaenger.jpg">

... or complete cartridges. This ammunition is considered unstable, especially the duds, and photos is all I take.
<img src="http://www.adventurehistory.com/tmp/20061022/2cmPatrone.jpg">

Besides musket balls and fragments of hollow cannon balls I found a personal first. This lead item
<img src="http://www.adventurehistory.com/tmp/20061022/Schrapnell.jpg">

was probably used to fill hollow cannon balls of around 1800 for additional splinter effect.

Also, some non-military items were found. This bronze object
<img src="http://www.adventurehistory.com/tmp/20061022/TierGriffEvtl.jpg">

is not identified yet. It is broken and shows an animal with an open mouth, probably a fish. Zoomorphic pieces like that are sometimes part of a strike-a-light.

To finish this small finds panorama, here is a chunk of bronze weighing 126 g. It was found in an area that was settled in bronze age times and indeed I hope the item is some 3000 years old bronze raw material waiting to be re-melted into a spear head or whatever. Unfortunately, most likely it will not be possible to date this item. Could be 100 or 3000 years old.
<img src="http://www.adventurehistory.com/tmp/20061022/BronzeBrocken.jpg">

Greetings from Germany,
Thorsten


www.adventurehistory.com






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