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Posted Aug 27, 2007, 08:41:06 PM
Can anyone help me identify this?

The words (motto) on the flag at the bottom are as close as I can read:
AEVINVIEKD


I have done some research that is getting me in the right direction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms


Looks like this: (but isn't)

Coat of Arms (Bulgaria):

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/bg).html

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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Aug 28, 2007, 01:28:39 AM
 Huh  Sorry I can't help.  Is that a button or what?  I hope you find your answers.  HH and HH resurch, too.

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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Aug 28, 2007, 01:31:19 AM
Sorry. I searched for an hour and
couldn't find anything. Will try more
later. Good luck
Cool button, by the way.
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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Aug 28, 2007, 01:34:32 AM
Interesting button, surely looks European military.  HH, Mike
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Aug 28, 2007, 01:40:41 AM
I think it looks like a older style version of the bulgarian coat of arms to me --- the "rampant" lions -one on shield -one flanking each side and a crown over head all fit--- the crowns shape is differant but the artist "fit" the crown design to the design of the time --- the on the "new" more modern design the crown is shown differantly (the differace is the "modern coat of arms" you see in the was done later in time in pen and ink and shows a differant type crown vs the older modeling of it (in metal) ---all the symbolism is the same --- looks to me to be ---an older styling look bulgarian (coat of arms) uniform button front  --- Ivan
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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Aug 28, 2007, 03:51:13 AM
First thought was modern blazer button.

However the patina & construction looks consist with a WWI era brass 2 piece military button.  Definately not British (although could be made in Britain, sold abroad).  Thats all I can add.

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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Aug 28, 2007, 05:29:23 AM
HEY!  I found one of those a couple of months ago.  I didn't know the back was hollow (mine's filled with crud and is soaking in olive oil).

If you make out what the letters are, please let me know.  I had thought it looked like a French word.

I found my button on the grounds of an 1852 house in Milford (village 35 miles WNW of Detroit, settled early 1800's), Michigan.  Other finds there were an 1871-H Canadian dime, kerosene lamp parts, and--this past weekend--a very old mason jar seal & lid & piece of broken curved glass [I can now say I found an "ex-cache"], plus a very old-looking doorknob that I think was original to the house.

My guess on these buttons stems from local history, trade with Canada, possibility that one of the owners of this former farm might have been Canadian (and maybe a veteran).  That guess is an old British or French uniform button, despite the resemblance to Central European coats of arms / national symbol.

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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Aug 28, 2007, 05:43:24 AM
humm the english use "rampant" lions quite commonly -- as a design--- the button has 3 loins --- is a british type item -- I wonder
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Aug 28, 2007, 06:41:22 AM
A guy is selling on in this auction, look close  Undecided

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Metal-Butto...95QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Aug 28, 2007, 06:45:01 AM
Found it...


BRASS LATIN COAT OF ARMS - 7/8 IN. WIDE

http://buttons4u.com/Merchant2/merchant..._Code=MTL46&Category_Code=MTL_BTTNS

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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Aug 28, 2007, 06:48:33 AM
ah I see a match to the button in the "mix" of vintage "mock military buttons" that hes offering up --
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Aug 28, 2007, 08:20:53 AM
As I said earlier NOT British.

Seeing those links:

Back to original gut feeling of Blazer Button.

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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Aug 28, 2007, 08:56:55 AM
you seem to have nailed it -- must say it did have a military look about it though
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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Aug 28, 2007, 09:48:14 AM
you seem to have nailed it -- must say it did have a military look about it though

Yeap, not knowing every Europeon military service button, I thought it possible.  But wasn't happy with the crown & motto.

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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Aug 28, 2007, 10:25:43 AM
Thanks for the information. 
I had thought it to be civilian when I dug it up, possibly a woman's coat button; but the 'Latin coat of arms' description and the general character of it makes me think it was on a man's garment.

I knew it was old when I dug it.  I guess this design has been around for a while.
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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Aug 28, 2007, 11:52:13 AM
Neat Find !!!! now that is cool
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