An Orientation Day at the Wayside Tavern (Pic Added)

Hey, dudes and dudettes, it has been awhile since the one and only KirkPA has posted a thread. But, before I get on to my thread-thready-threadster, I would like to take a step back from reality and put on a show for you loving people. Hmmmm...you may be asking your in-tell-la-gent datectin' brains, "What does KirkPA have up his detecting sleeve?" In an obnoxious tribal shout, KirkPA bellows, "The 1st Stand-up act on Tnet!" So, sit back on your detecting butts.......and enjoy a super long laugh.

The place: Tnet Lunchroom. The time: Lunch time. The dudes and dudette attending: Captn_SE, Danimal, Mirage, Evolution, Dimeman, Jeff of PA (just in case I get "out of line" ), Mona Lisa, borninok, zoyboy, DFX-Gregg, {Sentinel}, and numerous other forum members.

After a typical KirkPA lunch of beans and apple cider, he looks over at Captn_SE and whispers, "Hey, bud, you want to watch KirkPA in action?" In a whisper, SE states back, "I don't know what you mean, but go for it." So, while Danimal, Mirage, borninok, DFX-Gregg, and Dimeman partake in conversation about forum issues, KirkPA stands up and proceeds, "Ahem, ahem, ahem....thank you for your attention, gentlemen and lady (winks at Mona), if you won't mind some KirkPA entertainment, I will further proceed to accompany you on a journey of laughter and fun. You up for it?" Some dude in the back, yells, "Oh, get a life!" Some dude in the middle, screams, "Give me a break!" Some dude in the front, states, "Please, sir, I would like to partake."

KirkPA further proceeds to the front of the lunchroom where other forum members are starting to fill in, but before he starts his act, he looks over at Jeff of PA, and asks, "Jeff, is it okay with you?" Jeff states back, "Just keep it within the lines of the forum rules."

KirkPA asks the Tnet members to please keep the chat to a whisper and begins his act. "A few of you dudes will like this one....audible KirkPA chuckle....'What does KirkPA + His Ego add up to? Simple, a Pro XL!'" A few hecklers from the back started to "Booooo." KirkPA looked at them and stated, "Hey, dudes, what is the easiest way to add a few inches? Huh? Huh? Huh? KirkPA was laughing super hard now. Just turn up your gain!" KirkPA supporters were on the floor laughing super hard and loud. One of them, stated, "You are a riot!" "I think this one will strike a chord in some of you dudes, but it is all in fun...'What is with dudes taking pills for ED? Booooo. Heck, a dollar hit is my Cialis.'" KirkPA supporters were laughing so hard, boogies started to come out of their nasal passages

KirkPA proceeded to take a drink of water and then decided to open up a pack of Strawberry blunt cigars. He lit one up and asked the audience, "Would anyone like one? Don't be shy!" Captn_SE raised his hand, kind of like a dude kid in school, and responded, "I would, Kirk!" I threw him one and he lit up and joined me in some KirkPA-like musing.

With Strawberry essence engulfing the Tnet Lunchroom, a few lurkers entered the room thinking that someone had just made muffins....upon their entrance, KirkPA looked at them and stated, "Dudes, care for a smoke?" One lurker responded back, "Darn, I thought I smelled muffins." KirkPA: "No, dude, it is my Strawberry flavored ci-gar. Sorry, but if you want to watch my Stand-up act, you need to sign up for a username and join the forum. Join the Treasurenet.com forum. It is cheap, easy, and fun." A forum moderator stated, "Thanks, Kirk, for that gesture."

While Captn was puffing smoke all over the room, I started back up again, "Captn, this one is for you...'What is in Captn_SE's closet? A White's!" KirkPA was on his back rolling on the ground in laughter...his ci-gar was still in his mouth and his water still in hand A few of the hecklers stood up and left the room...KirkPA then decided to end his act, "Dudes, thanks for your time. I hope you enjoyed it. If not, pardon my indecorous comedy act. Thank you, there is free metal detecting advice out on the forum at 1 p.m., so if you are interested, consult your daily forum guide." That was when all of the KirkPA supporters ran up to him and asked him for his autograph...Kirk signed some in haste, since he needed to head out to the forum boards.

Back to the metal detecting day...

PACO, zoy, and I headed out to the Colonial tavern site yesterday, since some of it was harvested. Since the farmer told us to check back in during the fall, we knocked on his door at 10 a.m., but no one answered. So, we decided to wait around for about an hour, but Mr. Farmer didn't show up. So, we decided to drive around the city for awhile and talk about our hobby. At 12, we knocked on his door again and it was soon answered....after some further dialogue, we were granted permission to detect the site. His wife even stated to us, in response to the fact that we are going to put together a display case for them, "You guys are the 1st to ever offer that. That is so nice of you." SEE...we do showcase ourselves with professionalism!

We geared up and walked about a half-mile into the field...it is a large field, but since zoy narrowed down the site, we were soon standing at the site of the Colonial tavern. We eyeballed thousands of pottery shards all over the place...about half the size of a football field. But, since most of the corn wasn't harvested, we could only detect at certain areas. In 30 seconds of time, zoyboy found half of a Colonial shoe buckle. Then, I started to find an assortment of Colonial but-tins....most of them are the size of a quarter. Since this place is littered with ferrous, we had to dig a lot of signals. We were, literally, yelling out, "Button!" almost every other minute. But, we had found NO coins yet! That seemed a little odd....we are thinking the site has been hunted or we have not found the actual location of the tavern yet...zoyboy even said, "Maybe we are at the dump now." After about 3 hours of detecting, we had found 20 buttons, 15 musketballs, and other relics. I found 7 buttons, a brass thimble, and 2 dropped musketballs.

Now, since the site is NOT fully harvested, we are going to be attacking it again and again and again. We will definitely find some coins and other relics, so it is a site worth focusing on. The site is massive, so I think we need to scout some more before we actually locate the yard of the tavern.

We were given exclusive permission to detect the site whenever we wanted...we also know where a homestead once stood back in the 1770s on their same property, so that site should produce some nice goodies.

*All relics were found on private property with total consent from the sweet landowners.



Question: What is the object near zoy's shoe buckle? Is it part of a belt buckle? I found that in the ferrous-infested area.

Kirk,
All in all it sounds like your day was shining.
Glad you got out and nice to see you still at it.

Always fun to read your posts.
Thom

Kirk,
All in all it sounds like your day was shining.
Glad you got out and nice to see you still at it.

Always fun to read your posts.
Thom

Thanks, bud, only KirkPA can have this much fun. Stay tuned-in for my future threads. We will find some coins at this site!

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The specific area you hunted may have been a dump site as zoy said, but the buttons on such sites usually way outnumber the coins.  Still odd that you found so many buttons and not a coin...  The musketballs are a good sign that you're on the right spot.  I think after the field is harvested you'll have your answer.

Now about the display case...this is a great idea.  It is an excellent way to show gratitude and it gives the property owner something to hang on their wall and enjoy the history of the land they own.  I think I will have to make this offer when trying to get permission for some CW sites I have been rasearching.  Bravo!

NOW...cryptoKIRK, the pics??? ;)

I'm waiting, bud.


-Buckleboy

The specific area you hunted may have been a dump site as zoy said, but the buttons on such sites usually way outnumber the coins.  Still odd that you found so many buttons and not a coin...  The musketballs are a good sign that you're on the right spot.  I think after the field is harvested you'll have your answer.

Now about the display case...this is a great idea.  It is an excellent way to show gratitude and it gives the property owner something to hang on their wall and enjoy the history of the land they own.  I think I will have to make this offer when trying to get permission for some CW sites I have been rasearching.  Bravo!

NOW...cryptoKIRK, the pics??? ;)

I'm waiting, bud.


-Buckleboy

I will ask zoy to take some pics tonight...he said last night, "Kirk, it is only a damn button." hahaha

The public does view us in a good light!

Check to see if you made my list for the week: http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,109198.0.html

It's so nice to see younger folks so interested in history, stand up comedy, cafeterias and cigars.


Let me go get a muffin...




Ridley

It's so nice to see younger folks so interested in history, stand up comedy, cafeterias and cigars.


Let me go get a muffin...




Ridley

It was my cigar...LMAO! But, I bet Mona could make us some. ;)

Wow that sounds like a promising site. I'm surprised at NO COINS from there. All those buttons is a great sign though. Just sit back, have a cigar, you're gonna ride the gravy train and find some coins next time out 

Wow that sounds like a promising site. I'm surprised at NO COINS from there. All those buttons is a great sign though. Just sit back, have a cigar, you're gonna ride the gravy train and find some coins next time out 

I am still thrilled about the site. The landowners are so sweet, so we are welcomed back. My goal is to pull a few coins out myself.

Yesterday was about 90 degrees, so it was difficult to concentrate after I ran out of water. LOL Next week is going to be cooler and hopefully he will harvest some more, so we should be able to focus more on the area.

"Only a damn button", is actually an early American artifact. I realize that buttons are plentiful on sites, and that the most often lack the glamour of coppers, however, they are still witness to an important period in our history, and as such, deserve to be treated with an accordant level of respect.

You dig it, you curate it.

"Only a damn button", is actually an early American artifact. I realize that buttons are plentiful on sites, and that the most often lack the glamour of coppers, however, they are still witness to an important period in our history, and as such, deserve to be treated with an accordant level of respect.

You dig it, you curate it.

I agree with you, bud. Buttons are fun to find, but I like the coins more.

i too would like to see em....buttons are cool too....

the act needs work....

i too would like to see em....buttons are cool too....

the act needs work....

The hecklers got to me. At least I didn't explode like Mr. Richards did.

Sounds like a rockin' site. Lessee pix of the buttons.

Man I would love to hunt a site like that...but hunting it with your friends makes it that much more fun. I bet it isn't long before the coins start popping up. I am a coin person myself but it would be awesome to hunt for relics and buttons too.

I agree with Kirk.  The buttons are certainly fun to find but I like the coins a little better.  I'm up to 45 buttons or so on the site I'm hunting now.  I've only found 9 1/2 coins at the same site.   What the heck is a half a coin you say?  Check my latest post on the todays finds forum.  Of these 9 1/2 coins 4 were IH's and the other 5 1/2 were large coppers.
     Kirk,  sounds like an awesome site you got there.  Zoy is the research king.  I hope you guys pull at least 50 colonial coins out of there.  I wish you all the best of luck at that site.  Keep the great finds coming.  

I agree with Kirk.  The buttons are certainly fun to find but I like the coins a little better.  I'm up to 45 buttons or so on the site I'm hunting now.  I've only found 9 1/2 coins at the same site.   What the heck is a half a coin you say?  Check my latest post on the todays finds forum.  Of these 9 1/2 coins 4 were IH's and the other 5 1/2 were large coppers.
     Kirk,  sounds like an awesome site you got there.  Zoy is the research king.  I hope you guys pull at least 50 colonial coins out of there.  I wish you all the best of luck at that site.  Keep the great finds coming.  

Thanks, bud, for the good luck wish. I hope we hit pay dirt soon. I will slave all fall for a coin at this site.

How was my comedy act? LMAO

Sounds like a rockin' site. Lessee pix of the buttons.

Thanks, one of the very few metal datectin' babes on Tnet, go get a coppa now!

haha...man, I feel like I owe you 20 bucks for tickets or something.

I actually liked it.  The new avatar is great too.   I'm not too much of a cigar nut but I've been known to knock back a few cold beers after a good hunt.  I'm trying to picture that site in my head.  Is it possible you guys could snap a few pics of the site without giving away the location?  It sounds awesome.

By the way.  You are the only dude on here that could get this many responses to a post  with no pictures.      I wouldn't mind seeing pics of the buttons.....even though I am a coppafile now.

I actually liked it.  The new avatar is great too.   I'm not too much of a cigar nut but I've been known to knock back a few cold beers after a good hunt.  I'm trying to picture that site in my head.  Is it possible you guys could snap a few pics of the site without giving away the location?  It sounds awesome.

I wouldn't mind pounding back a few beers after a decent hunt. I will take a picture next week...I'm not worried about any dudes in my area finding the site. One, it is difficult to locate. Two, they would need to get permission and I think the landowners would say, "We already have guys doing it."

It is a very peaceful setting...we are out in the middle of nowhere.

By the way.  You are the only dude on here that could get this many responses to a post  with no pictures.      I wouldn't mind seeing pics of the buttons.....even though I am a coppafile now.

I will post pics tonight, if zoy will do it. I love your signature! LMFAO

I was wondering if you were going to notice that.  Good eye.  I didn't give you credit on the quote though.  I'm officially crediting you so I don't get sued for plagarism.   Looking forward to the pics.

I was wondering if you were going to notice that.  Good eye.  I didn't give you credit on the quote though.  I'm officially crediting you so I don't get sued for plagarism.   Looking forward to the pics.

KirkPA has the memory of a time machine and the wit of a noble genius.

Ha, I about choked on my toothpaste.

Ha, I about choked on my toothpaste.

Which part of the act, bud?

Hey Kirk,

I think you broke new ground on Tnet today.  This was the first stand-up comedy act/colonial site post I've seen so far.  So you handed me a cigar, huh?  The only time I smoked a cigar, I turned a scary shade of turf green....hehehe  But you are right about one thing....my White's is in my closet.   

I think eventually you will find some good coins at that site.  You guys saw and dug a lot of good indicators there.  Just a matter of time.  Those sites you, Zoy, and Paco are hunting are places I dream about hunting.    No Cialis for me...hehehhhhehee

Your avatar is real funny.  Yes, I've been un-mulletized too.

HH,
CAPTN SE
Dan

 

Kirkels,
You sure that was a cigar you were smoking?    Wow, what a story. I had to print it and take it to the john with me it was so long. 
Sorry to hear you didn't score any coins, but I'm sure you guys will soon enough. Sounds like a fantastic spot. If you don't want them ol' buttons, send em' my way.  ;)
As far as 1800's finds on that farm I hunt, my ratio has been about 45 old buttons to only one 1800's coin so far (the 1874 IH in my avatar).  I'm still hoping and looking though.
Hopefully the woods will turn up a few for me. 
Keep up the good work.
-MM-
P.S. I see I squeezed into the top 25 again this week.  I'm trying hard Baby!

Kirk, you will find the coins.  You are DEFINITELY on a good spot bud!  Broken pottery, musketballs, flat buttons.  That has to be the site.  I think ya'll will find the colonial coppa as soon as the farmer finishes cutting down the corn so you have more ground to search.

KirkPA, I believe that we did hit the frickin' dump area.  The entire day, if you were listening closely, I was repeating outloud, "Non-glazed pottery equals 1700s, glazed pottery equals 1800s, non-glazed pottery equals 1700s, glazed pottery equals 1800s!"  We must keep swinging our boxes with short sweeps, accompanying each of them with long sweeps after every other prior sweep.

KirkPA and PACO, let's keep our metal detecting heads held up high and keep swinging with cookie monster passion.

zoyster  

Ahhh now we're talkin' I love those buttons and relics. Those old sites are the BEST. I can't wait till you start pulling some coins out of there. I see big copper on its way!

Hey Kirk,

I think you broke new ground on Tnet today.  This was the first stand-up comedy act/colonial site post I've seen so far.  So you handed me a cigar, huh?  The only time I smoked a cigar, I turned a scary shade of turf green....hehehe  But you are right about one thing....my White's is in my closet.   

I think eventually you will find some good coins at that site.  You guys saw and dug a lot of good indicators there.  Just a matter of time.  Those sites you, Zoy, and Paco are hunting are places I dream about hunting.    No Cialis for me...hehehhhhehee

Your avatar is real funny.  Yes, I've been un-mulletized too.

HH,
CAPTN SE
Dan

 

I broke the barrier, bud. lol Your Cialis is a Seated half dollar! LMAO Bud, I hope we can find the tavern yard quickly...there are coppas and old wilver to be found. The landowners are cool, so we can spend all fall here.

KirkPA, I believe that we did hit the frickin' dump area.  The entire day, if you were listening closely, I was repeating outloud, "Non-glazed pottery equals 1700s, glazed pottery equals 1800s, non-glazed pottery equals 1700s, glazed pottery equals 1800s!"  We must keep swinging our boxes with short sweeps, accompanying each of them with long sweeps after every other prior sweep.

KirkPA and PACO, let's keep our metal detecting heads held up high and keep swinging with cookie monster passion.

zoyster  

Okay, now I know what you were saying...I couldn't understand you because I was busy digging but-tins.

Cookie monster did show a lot of passion eating those coo-keys.

Question: What is the object near zoy's shoe buckle? Is it part of a belt buckle? I found that in the ferrous-infested area.

It looks like a more recent lock plate (the side that goes on the edge of the door for a bolt that goes into the door jamb).

"Non-glazed pottery equals 1700s, glazed pottery equals 1800s, non-glazed pottery equals 1700s, glazed pottery equals 1800s!" 

Hmmmmmm....Not true. There was plenty of glazed pottery made in the 1700's.

It's obvious you guys have done your research though and I'm sure will be rewarded with some good finds when you return. Good luck!

Nice picture Bud.  Looks like alot of the butt-tins I've been finding lately.  Great site you've got there.

Question: What is the object near zoy's shoe buckle? Is it part of a belt buckle? I found that in the ferrous-infested area.

It looks like a more recent lock plate (the side that goes on the edge of the door for a bolt that goes into the door jamb).

It definitely isn't "recent." This site dates back over two hundred years. But, maybe you are correct in it being part of a door plate. Anybody else agree with her?

"Non-glazed pottery equals 1700s, glazed pottery equals 1800s, non-glazed pottery equals 1700s, glazed pottery equals 1800s!" 

Hmmmmmm....Not true. There was plenty of glazed pottery made in the 1700's.

It's obvious you guys have done your research though and I'm sure will be rewarded with some good finds when you return. Good luck!

Mr. Walter would disagree, but he detected "alllll" summer for a couple coins.

Kirkels,
You sure that was a cigar you were smoking?    Wow, what a story. I had to print it and take it to the john with me it was so long.  
Sorry to hear you didn't score any coins, but I'm sure you guys will soon enough. Sounds like a fantastic spot. If you don't want them ol' buttons, send em' my way.  ;)
As far as 1800's finds on that farm I hunt, my ratio has been about 45 old buttons to only one 1800's coin so far (the 1874 IH in my avatar).  I'm still hoping and looking though.
Hopefully the woods will turn up a few for me. 
Keep up the good work.
-MM-
P.S. I see I squeezed into the top 25 again this week.  I'm trying hard Baby!

Did you have beans and apple cider, too, for lunch?

Kirkels,
You sure that was a cigar you were smoking?    Wow, what a story. I had to print it and take it to the john with me it was so long.  
-MM-
P.S. I see I squeezed into the top 25 again this week.  I'm trying hard Baby!

Did you have beans and apple cider, too, for lunch?

That was diner. 
Thanks for posting the pictures. Some nice finds guys!
-MM-

Kirk....you're a fruit loop.    Do we get to hunt with you in this far fetched fantasy of yours?  Or do we just get to smoke Cee-gars and eat Muf-fins? 








Nice selection of But-tins.  The coins will come. 

This site dates back over two hundred years.

And what - they fenced off the area for the last 200? Silly. Anyway, in the pic I thought it looked machine-made. Oh well, I've been wrong before (um, usually?) Oh, and BTW, maybe you should clear something up for everyone - it seems people think you left the tobacco in tha Phillies before sparkin' ;)

Kirk....you're a fruit loop.    Do we get to hunt with you in this far fetched fantasy of yours?  Or do we just get to smoke Cee-gars and eat Muf-fins? 








Nice selection of But-tins.  The coins will come. 

I will puff a cigar with you, if you bake the muffins. LOL So, put the apron on, and shuffle into the kitchen. hahaha

This site dates back over two hundred years.

And what - they fenced off the area for the last 200? Silly. Anyway, in the pic I thought it looked machine-made. Oh well, I've been wrong before (um, usually?) Oh, and BTW, maybe you should clear something up for everyone - it seems people think you left the tobacco in tha Phillies before sparkin' ;)

This place is, literally, out in the middle of NOWHERE! How could a modern day doorknob get out here? More silly.

^^fair enough

^^fair enough

Truce? LOL HH, metal detecting babe.

not mad atcha

not mad atcha

Okay, good, ma'am. A right back at you and your Minelab.

nice finds Kirk! That the type of site I've gone in and dug only coins and buttons with my EX II... *L* Maybe hit by a good coinshooter but you're almost guaranteed they didn't find them all. But you may be just removing the iron etc to get to the good stuff!  

Nice finds Kirk---Those old buttons are a treat.

nice finds Kirk! That the type of site I've gone in and dug only coins and buttons with my EX II... *L* Maybe hit by a good coinshooter but you're almost guaranteed they didn't find them all. But you may be just removing the iron etc to get to the good stuff!  

I seriously don't think that someone has detected it before. I just think we have not located the exact location of the tavern house. I guess we will find out in the coming weeks. I consider myself a great coinshooter, so once the ferrous is dug out, KirkPA will dig the coins.

LMAO, I was told on the phone of this thread and had to check it out so hear i is grinning from ear to ear at your solo stand up Kirk.

So you unlocked the Capt's secret all this time he's been using the White's circuit board from the old machine in the closet in a SE shell ;) pure genius.

Great going with the land owners out there should open up some places with there friends.

Sweet finds Kirk.  LOOK your musketball has teethmarks in it too ;)  Nice colonial flat buttons. That is a pretty good day bud.  Glad you posted the pic.

Sweet finds Kirk.  LOOK your musketball has teethmarks in it too ;)  Nice colonial flat buttons. That is a pretty good day bud.  Glad you posted the pic.

It sure does look like it...I will have to check it out before I go to bed.

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So...where are the other 12 buttons? 

So...where are the other 12 buttons? 

After my hand heals up, I will post them.

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So...where are the other 12 buttons? 

After my hand heals up, I will post them.

O.K. cryptoKIRK 

Once I arrive home from my day of datective work, I will post the rest.

Hey Kirk,
   
     Goldenapples heard about this thread on the phone.    You are officially famous. 

90 degrees is perfect for sitting inside a well air conditioned house.      Nate and I were out Sunday and it was bad(hot).  I was complaining but he wanted to stay out and detect.  Ahh, the folly of youth.  ;)

The site looks promising.  Good luck.

90 degrees is perfect for sitting inside a well air conditioned house.      Nate and I were out Sunday and it was bad(hot).  I was complaining but he wanted to stay out and detect.  Ahh, the folly of youth.  ;)

The site looks promising.  Good luck.

We will probably get some nice coins from the site, considering that we know where a pioneer of the valley settled in the adjacent field.  Supposedly, he settled on the location in the 1780s and the dwelling was still being inhabited in the 1870s. 

zoyster

So...where are the other 12 buttons? 

O.K. cryptoKIRK 

After my hand heals up, I will post them.

  LMAO      ;)

Sounds like an awesome site Kirk,Gotta be some coins there somewere ! Hope ya hit some wold wilver soon ! The display case idea is a good one.I was going to make some up awile back and was thinking it would be nice to have an old photo of the area as a background for your display.oooooor... you could make one up with one of your avatar pic's for a background ! 

    Kirk, you have a great sense of humor!!!   Keep digging that field, and you will get your coins and more great relics. I really enjoyed your post!      Mosey

Kirk...I have a free ticket anywhere I have to use within a year. You might have to watch over your shoulder next time you head for that site 

Quote from: Mona Lisa on Oct 08, 2007, 09:15:03 PM
Kirk....you're a fruit loop.     Do we get to hunt with you in this far fetched fantasy of yours?  Or do we just get to smoke Cee-gars and eat Muf-fins? 

Nice selection of But-tins.  The coins will come. 

I will puff a cigar with you, if you bake the muffins. LOL So, put the apron on, and shuffle into the kitchen. hahaha

Here's your froggin' muffins, Kirky! 

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Oh man y'all are killin me here !          

Kirk, that was just Zaney Bro!   BTW try the wild berry flavor cigars by backwoods, talk about muffins...  Anyway, cool site! I know we will be reading about the K.P. gang's finds from this place all fall long. Very cool that the owners will let you hit that place when ever you want. And good idea to take care of them with a display case. I would like to see some of the pottery shards & other stuff you guys find there. I gives us the whole picture/snapshot of the day's hunt. That's why I always show the plate shards, bottles, teeth & other stuff I find along with the good stuff. So even though you see them & think trash, I think it would be cool to see the bad stuff with the good. And maybe we could learn to "read" pottery like Zoyboy was saying about the glazing by showing us glazed & nonglazed pieces.
I also thought that thing was an old lock plate, but not 1700 & 1800's old??   
This songs for you!

Kirk, that was just Zaney Bro!   BTW try the wild berry flavor cigars by backwoods, talk about muffins...  Anyway, cool site! I know we will be reading about the K.P. gang's finds from this place all fall long. Very cool that the owners will let you hit that place when ever you want. And good idea to take care of them with a display case. I would like to see some of the pottery shards & other stuff you guys find there. I gives us the whole picture/snapshot of the day's hunt. That's why I always show the plate shards, bottles, teeth & other stuff I find along with the good stuff. So even though you see them & think trash, I think it would be cool to see the bad stuff with the good. And maybe we could learn to "read" pottery like Zoyboy was saying about the glazing by showing us glazed & nonglazed pieces.
I also thought that thing was an old lock plate, but not 1700 & 1800's old??   
This songs for you!

I will get some pics of the different pottery shards. Some are very decorative with flowery designs.

I bet it was the lock plate to the tavern door. LOL That is a cool relic, if that is what it turns out to be.

HH, bud, at the Pit!

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Yeah I'd be interested in seeing the pottery shards.  You might be able to turn them into something useful--or if nothing else a neat display.

-Buckleboy

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Any pics of the pottery?  You all hunting this site again this weekend?  If so, best of luck. 

Pssst--go towards water and ye shall find  ;)


Buckleboy

Any pics of the pottery?  You all hunting this site again this weekend?  If so, best of luck. 

Pssst--go towards water and ye shall find  ;)


Buckleboy

Will, we will be heading back this Sundee. I will take some pics of the site and pick up some pot-ree for the forum. I think we will be scouting some more!

AWESOME Kirk!!
Nice CW stuff, Dude!!
I haven't found and CW relics yet!! Soon I will, just maybe one of these days

The Geckokid

I like the Red neck detorist picture better!!

AWESOME Kirk!!
Nice CW stuff, Dude!!
I haven't found and CW relics yet!! Soon I will, just maybe one of these days

The Geckokid

Thanks, bud kid, but you are off by 100 years; these relics are from the late 1700s to early 1800s.
Bud kid, I wish you the best of luck in getting that Tesora.

Dude you may have a future in stand up, I was thinking which I liked the most your finds or the act. Both were great!  Good luck at the site.  Tim

I'm just posting here because everyone else did.

I'm just posting here because everyone else did.

Typical of a zesty biker dude.

I think you are onto a very promising site.  I also think you are in an area that served as a dump.  Could have been just for the tavern or could have been for part of the community and the tavern.  Your pottery shards hold much more information than you might think.  It is not just the glaze but the thickness and the colors and patterns that tell you things about the age and origin.  If many of them have designs, I would save them for the display case.  They make nice "filler" material and add some color and texture to the items.  Post some pictures and we'll tell you what we know.

Something I learned about buttons in a field may be of interest.  I have no source to back this up.  It is just what many people think.  Could be a myth like the medicine bullets.  Just don't know.  Anyway, many people in the UK believe that the farmers plowed discarded clothing into the soil to improve it.  It was a good organic material and would decompose pretty quick.  It explains why there are so many buttons is so many fields.  So the buttons and the pottery may not be related.  Buttons would be everywhere and the pottery just in an old dump site.  So you are on a good site as far as age goes but I don't think you are at the tavern yet.

I, too, believe the metal object is a door striker plate and not that old.  If you look at the holes on either end, they are tapered to match the taper in a screw.  I don't know when tapered screws were first used but that would give you a maximum age of the piece.  Maybe they had tapered screws in the 1700's.  I am sure somebody on the forum knows and can shed some light on it.

Try using Goggle Earth to look at the site.  If the flyover was at the right time, you can sometimes make out dark areas in the soil or an outline of a foundation.  This is a good indication that a building was once there.  It will give you Lat/Lon for the place and you can walk right to it.

Keep swinging in that field.  It will pay off.

Daryl

I think you are onto a very promising site.  I also think you are in an area that served as a dump.  Could have been just for the tavern or could have been for part of the community and the tavern.  Your pottery shards hold much more information than you might think.  It is not just the glaze but the thickness and the colors and patterns that tell you things about the age and origin.  If many of them have designs, I would save them for the display case.  They make nice "filler" material and add some color and texture to the items.  Post some pictures and we'll tell you what we know.

Something I learned about buttons in a field may be of interest.  I have no source to back this up.  It is just what many people think.  Could be a myth like the medicine bullets.  Just don't know.  Anyway, many people in the UK believe that the farmers plowed discarded clothing into the soil to improve it.  It was a good organic material and would decompose pretty quick.  It explains why there are so many buttons is so many fields.  So the buttons and the pottery may not be related.  Buttons would be everywhere and the pottery just in an old dump site.  So you are on a good site as far as age goes but I don't think you are at the tavern yet.

I, too, believe the metal object is a door striker plate and not that old.  If you look at the holes on either end, they are tapered to match the taper in a screw.  I don't know when tapered screws were first used but that would give you a maximum age of the piece.  Maybe they had tapered screws in the 1700's.  I am sure somebody on the forum knows and can shed some light on it.

Try using Goggle Earth to look at the site.  If the flyover was at the right time, you can sometimes make out dark areas in the soil or an outline of a foundation.  This is a good indication that a building was once there.  It will give you Lat/Lon for the place and you can walk right to it.

Keep swinging in that field.  It will pay off.

Daryl

Thanks for the info, Daryl. It was very informative.

Here is some info about the tavern: we have narrowed the location of the tavern exactly...we studied maps and there is an indicator that gives it away. I owe it ALL to zoyboy. He really did some great ra-search on this site. Anyways, we have read accounts from the late 1780s up until 1800. I think that we need to focus in this pottery shard area for a little bit and then work our way in different directions. PACO is going to head to the water source a little further, zoy will work one side of the dump area, and I will work the area on the other side. The tavern yard may only be about 50 yards away from the acutal dump.

I just think we found TOO many great indicators, so it may be virgin. Most of the readings were 50-75 VDIs, so that points to the fact that maybe it wasn't hit before or just "cherrypicked."

Hey KKKKirk,That's definitly gonna be a good site for ya guyz.Hope to see some coinage next!I once got permission ta do an old one room school house which is now a histerical society and I told the kind old babes running the place that I would give up every thing but the coins for a display for the society and they agreed.Now some of my finds are on display for all to see.Pretty cool huh?I also have found the site of the first tavern in a certain unnamed town in maine,ca.1760,just a hole in the ground now but I know it hasn't been done yet and will be going there in spring as it is quite a ways away.It took alot of rasearch to find it so I'm pretty sure it'll still be a virgin site when I get to it.Noone does the rasearch like the BBBBootster unless it be the KKKKirkster and his gang LOL.Wishing you continued success in your endeavors,Bootstrap
    PS loved the stand up act!

Hey KKKKirk,That's definitly gonna be a good site for ya guyz.Hope to see some coinage next!I once got permission ta do an old one room school house which is now a histerical society and I told the kind old babes running the place that I would give up every thing but the coins for a display for the society and they agreed.Now some of my finds are on display for all to see.Pretty cool huh?I also have found the site of the first tavern in a certain unnamed town in maine,ca.1760,just a hole in the ground now but I know it hasn't been done yet and will be going there in spring as it is quite a ways away.It took alot of rasearch to find it so I'm pretty sure it'll still be a virgin site when I get to it.Noone does the rasearch like the BBBBootster unless it be the KKKKirkster and his gang LOL.Wishing you continued success in your endeavors,Bootstrap
    PS loved the stand up act!

Wow, I hope it works out! No one does the ra-search like the Kirkster unless it is the Bootster. LOL

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No one does the ra-search like the Kirkster unless it is the Bootster. LOL

Unless it's the BUCKster 

Hurry up and hit this site again!  I can't wait to see what you two pull up from it.

-Buckleboy

In less than 48 metal detecting hours, we will be metal detecting the site that we metal detected last week.


zoyster

Good luck with the tavern.  I have a good feeling that ya'll will come back with some colonials.

Question: What is the object near zoy's shoe buckle? Is it part of a belt buckle? I found that in the ferrous-infested area.

It looks like a more recent lock plate (the side that goes on the edge of the door for a bolt that goes into the door jamb).

It definitely isn't "recent." This site dates back over two hundred years. But, maybe you are correct in it being part of a door plate. Anybody else agree with her?

looks like the strike plate to a lock of some sort either a cabinet or door of some sort?