Madmardigan
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« on: Dec 22, 2007, 12:03:01 PM » |
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Wow each week my coil seems to be swinging over the right spots and I get older and older coins. Last week it was the 2 cent piece, 1864. While I was sure that was as old as I would get for a while, boy was I wrong. While out today at a site where nearby are the remains of a home foundation, I found this on my first swing. Beat the 2 cent piece by 127 years! Oddly It was all I found all day.
But is it real? It has the date 1737 on it and appears to have been cut in half and re-joined. Can anyone tell me anymore about it? I know nothing about Spanish Reales.
Thanks for looking and Merry Christmas.
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« Reply To This Topic #1 on: Dec 22, 2007, 12:20:50 PM » |
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Hey You luicky Dog!!! U bet your coil its for reale!!!!!  You know that it is my one goal before I die to find one of those??? I see its a very very merry christmas!!! Congrats!! Larry  Plus Ultra |
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« Reply To This Topic #2 on: Dec 22, 2007, 12:22:33 PM » |
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 That's an awesome coin in great condition.
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Evolution
So many colonial sites to hunt....so little time. I think I'll buy another DFX for my other arm and do some ambidextrous hunting.
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(Above) 1786 Vermont copper. Found August 2007
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« Reply To This Topic #3 on: Dec 22, 2007, 12:24:44 PM » |
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If it is genuine its an awesome find. I've never seen a coin that was cut and then fused back together again. Big congrats and happy holidays.
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Large copper total for 2008 --5
1797 Draped Bust large cent
1809 Classic Head half cent
1787 New Jersey copper (Maris 63-s variety)
1845 Braided hair large cent (holed)
No detail coppers--1
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« Reply To This Topic #4 on: Dec 22, 2007, 12:25:11 PM » |
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I know they used to cut them in half. The weight of silver was more important than the coin. It looks like two different coins put together. Not sure why they did this. Very interesting. They both look real  I hate a good start. When ever me & Dad get off to a very bad start we say - " Good Start". I think this needs more study with the experts. I would record it. |
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« Reply To This Topic #5 on: Dec 22, 2007, 12:26:07 PM » |
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i would wager that its real, but it looks to me like two different coins joined together. i do know that these coins were commonly cut into pieces to make change. very cool and interesting find!
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« Reply To This Topic #6 on: Dec 22, 2007, 12:26:50 PM » |
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I know they used to cut them in half. The weight of silver was more important than the coin. It looks like two different coins put together. Not sure why they did this. Very interesting. They both look real I hate a good start. When ever me & Dad get off to a very bad start we say - " Good Start". haha beat me to it!  |
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Madmardigan
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« Reply To This Topic #7 on: Dec 22, 2007, 12:28:19 PM » |
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I know they used to cut them in half. The weight of silver was more important than the coin. It looks like two different coins put together. Not sure why they did this. Very interesting. They both look real I hate a good start. When ever me & Dad get off to a very bad start we say - " Good Start". Wow thanks for pointing that out. I had seen that the lines did not match up but did not put 2 and 2 together. |
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« Reply To This Topic #8 on: Dec 22, 2007, 12:32:55 PM » |
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Wow, that is an interesting find. Definitely looks like two different coins fused together.
You just never know what you're going to find with one swing of the coil.
HH,
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Dan
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« Reply To This Topic #9 on: Dec 22, 2007, 12:37:51 PM » |
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Without a doubt two seperate coins but I am wondering about the blueish colors I see, make sure it is not silver plated. I hope that is dirt I see on certain areas and not a base metal.
Nice find either way, very unusual.
Don
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"The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
The value will increase with judicious cleaning."
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« Reply To This Topic #10 on: Dec 22, 2007, 12:41:07 PM » |
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Sweet old find and congrats on your two Reale halves!! I'd like to know that piece of history!!
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Madmardigan
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« Reply To This Topic #11 on: Dec 22, 2007, 01:20:58 PM » |
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Without a doubt two seperate coins but I am wondering about the blueish colors I see, make sure it is not silver plated. I hope that is dirt I see on certain areas and not a base metal.
Nice find either way, very unusual.
Don
Is there a way I can test if it is silver plated. It sounds like the other silver coins I have but that might not mean anything. |
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« Reply To This Topic #12 on: Dec 22, 2007, 01:23:06 PM » |
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Without a doubt two seperate coins but I am wondering about the blueish colors I see, make sure it is not silver plated. I hope that is dirt I see on certain areas and not a base metal.
Nice find either way, very unusual.
Don
Is there a way I can test if it is silver plated. It sounds like the other silver coins I have but that might not mean anything. You can get a cheap silver testing kit. I think the discolouring is from the join. ie the metal they welded it with. The discolouring will come off with CAREFUL cleaning. |
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« Reply To This Topic #13 on: Dec 22, 2007, 01:24:41 PM » |
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Very cool,nice find for sure!!
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Madmardigan
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« Reply To This Topic #14 on: Dec 22, 2007, 01:29:23 PM » |
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Without a doubt two seperate coins but I am wondering about the blueish colors I see, make sure it is not silver plated. I hope that is dirt I see on certain areas and not a base metal.
Nice find either way, very unusual.
Don
Is there a way I can test if it is silver plated. It sounds like the other silver coins I have but that might not mean anything. You can get a cheap silver testing kit. I think the discolouring is from the join. ie the metal they welded it with. The discolouring will come off with CAREFUL cleaning. Thanks for the info. Yeah I kind of thought the discolouring may be from the metal they used as well, but have never seen anything like this so I'm not really sure. |
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« Reply To This Topic #15 on: Dec 22, 2007, 01:34:39 PM » |
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Without a doubt two seperate coins but I am wondering about the blueish colors I see, make sure it is not silver plated. I hope that is dirt I see on certain areas and not a base metal.
Nice find either way, very unusual.
Don
Is there a way I can test if it is silver plated. It sounds like the other silver coins I have but that might not mean anything. You can get a cheap silver testing kit. I think the discolouring is from the join. ie the metal they welded it with. The discolouring will come off with CAREFUL cleaning. Thanks for the info. Yeah I kind of thought the discolouring may be from the metal they used as well, but have never seen anything like this so I'm not really sure. I'm sure they are real. Be careful with how you treat it as it is a truely historic & important piece. The more I think about it................................ THIS SHOULD BE ON THE BANNER |
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« Reply To This Topic #16 on: Dec 22, 2007, 01:41:21 PM » |
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I'll send someone over to take a look ;)
It certainly MIGHT be banner worthy! VERY COOL!
Congrats!
Marc
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« Reply To This Topic #17 on: Dec 22, 2007, 01:58:19 PM » |
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Obviously, it is two different coins glued/fused/stuck together. What is noticeable is how the elements (soil) have adhered to the different halves.
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 The true value of the gold may be the story itself, a testament to man’s ability to believe anything for a chance at such a vast fortune. |
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« Reply To This Topic #18 on: Dec 22, 2007, 02:13:59 PM » |
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They did not have welders back then. Things were forged together (smashed until the hot molecules came together), riveted or soldered. I believe this was silver soldered and the blue green is from the soldering material. Why did they do that? One can only guess. Maybe for the horse parking meter.
TE
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« Reply To This Topic #19 on: Dec 22, 2007, 02:17:53 PM » |
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where exactly did you find it? city and state?  |
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« Reply To This Topic #20 on: Dec 22, 2007, 02:27:57 PM » |
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FANTASTIC find!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would mess my drawers if I pulled that out of the ground! |
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« Reply To This Topic #21 on: Dec 22, 2007, 02:39:20 PM » |
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Very interesting find. I will have to watch this post for more info.
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« Reply To This Topic #22 on: Dec 22, 2007, 02:50:27 PM » |
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Awesome discovery, congrats on finding two different reales in the same find, cool! BDoo |
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« Reply To This Topic #23 on: Dec 22, 2007, 03:06:03 PM » |
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That is a beautiful piece and what a story it must have. Who cares if it's real/fake or what, it is an amazing find. My guess is like the rest, two different coins soldered together. Congrats |
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I dug a hole...
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« Reply To This Topic #24 on: Dec 22, 2007, 03:22:09 PM » |
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Very nice and unique find! I would speculate that it was put together later in
the coins life. After US coinage started to circulate freely throughout the US,
the actual weight of the silver was not as important, as to be able to pass a "full"
coin in a transaction. I read somewhere, that in the early to mid 1800's, store
owners started to not accept clipped coinage. Just my two (pieces) cents.
HH Slabman
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« Reply To This Topic #25 on: Dec 22, 2007, 03:41:27 PM » |
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Nice Spanish cross pistareen, my man.
Bone Dry Detecting...zoyster
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Question: Alien abduction or 100 coppas in one hole?
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« Reply To This Topic #26 on: Dec 22, 2007, 04:08:21 PM » |
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Buddy, I forgot to include this pdf file that I have read many times. http://www.numismatics.org/cnl/Pistareens.pdfBDD...zoyster |
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Question: Alien abduction or 100 coppas in one hole?
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