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Author Topic: MINERVA (?) - Roman Goddess of War - 1800's piece  (Read 6505 times)
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« on: Dec 29, 2007, 03:14:11 PM »

Today I dug up this oval piece at the 1830's property. It is some sort of silver plated metal, and is about 2" tall. The back is hollow (follows the contour of the front). Looks like a lady wearing armor and a winged helmet. Lady Mercury?
Any idea age, what this was, or who that is supposed to be on the front?
Should make a nice display piece.
Thank you,
MM

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« Reply To This Topic #1 on: Dec 29, 2007, 03:30:51 PM »

sweet detail could i see a picture of the back ,very nice what ever it is
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« Reply To This Topic #2 on: Dec 29, 2007, 03:36:05 PM »

Any place for a pin on the back? That design was very popular in the 1800's. I have seen a brooch very similar to that.
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« Reply To This Topic #3 on: Dec 29, 2007, 06:36:03 PM »

GOSH THAT IS THE BEST FIND I HAVE SEEN ON TNET SO FAR DEFENATLY A BANNER ITEM.
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« Reply To This Topic #4 on: Dec 29, 2007, 06:54:15 PM »

GOSH THAT IS THE BEST FIND I HAVE SEEN ON TNET SO FAR DEFENATLY A BANNER ITEM.

Thanks. I wish.  ;)
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« Reply To This Topic #5 on: Dec 29, 2007, 07:16:21 PM »

I cannot remember her name Doug... Lemme do some looking... Smiley

She is a common theme... Very kewl find...

PBK would tell ya in a heartbeat...
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« Reply To This Topic #6 on: Dec 29, 2007, 07:17:39 PM »

I cannot remember her name Doug... Lemme do some looking... Smiley

She is a common theme... Very kewl find...

PBK would tell ya in a heartbeat...

Thanks Jim.
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« Reply To This Topic #7 on: Dec 29, 2007, 07:18:25 PM »

Hey Doug... Google the "Roman Godess of War, Minerva"

Common late 19th century theme... Smiley
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« Reply To This Topic #8 on: Dec 29, 2007, 07:28:01 PM »

Hey Doug... Google the "Roman Godess of War, Minerva"

Late 19th centry theme... Smiley

Jim,
You da Man!!!
Thank you for that ID.
Here's a few pictures I found on other sites.
-MM-

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« Reply To This Topic #9 on: Dec 29, 2007, 07:33:29 PM »

Any place for a pin on the back? That design was very popular in the 1800's. I have seen a brooch very similar to that.

Tin! You might have seen it right here on T-Net!  Smiley

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,79662.0.html

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,92858.0.html

Jim,
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Thank you for that ID.
Here's a few pictures I found on other sites.
-MM-

Doug - No problem... check ut this site that PBK has shared many times here before...   http://www.iwantbuttons.com/trays/WRBA/2003/image40.htm

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« Reply To This Topic #10 on: Dec 29, 2007, 07:44:47 PM »

Are you sure it isn't a dude - Perseus ?  (The guy that cut Medusa's head off)

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...ls%3DGGLD,GGLD:2003-36,GGLD:en%26sa%3DN

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« Reply To This Topic #11 on: Dec 30, 2007, 04:30:37 AM »

Awesome BANNER find Doug!!!
Congrats and keep that good Mojo going buddy!! Wooowhooo!

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« Reply To This Topic #12 on: Dec 30, 2007, 04:45:04 AM »

WTG MM on the banner  Shocked and that sure is a beautie ! YOU DA MAN  ;)
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« Reply To This Topic #13 on: Dec 30, 2007, 04:58:24 AM »

I dont think its Minerva......Minerva didnt have wings on her helmet

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« Reply To This Topic #14 on: Dec 30, 2007, 05:35:40 AM »

Right on man im glad to see it on the banner . well deserved.
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« Reply To This Topic #15 on: Dec 30, 2007, 05:38:29 AM »

Big congrats on the banner ! Wow what an awesome find!  Smiley
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« Reply To This Topic #16 on: Dec 30, 2007, 05:58:15 AM »

I dont think its minerva but im still looking

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« Reply To This Topic #17 on: Dec 30, 2007, 05:59:34 AM »

can we see a picture of the back
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« Reply To This Topic #18 on: Dec 30, 2007, 06:05:32 AM »

There was also   Roma - the personification of the city of Rome - a goddess as depicted in these coins :

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« Reply To This Topic #19 on: Dec 30, 2007, 06:10:59 AM »

It might be Athena Goddess of War....

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« Reply To This Topic #20 on: Dec 30, 2007, 06:28:55 AM »

I dont think its Minerva......Minerva didnt have wings on her helmet

Well Gyspsy... I think you may be correct!  The winged thing... hmmm...  Smiley  I guess we can consider any helmeted goddess... I know Minerva never is seen in the same helmet often, and not all the Athena helmets (or hardly any) have wings either.

However you have a point.

Mojjax - you're finding wings - but I do think it's a female's face on the brooch he found.

I guess at this point I am uncommited... LMAO

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« Reply To This Topic #21 on: Dec 30, 2007, 06:38:34 AM »

Looks to be the same immage that is on the dime minted from 1916 to 1945.

If so it is a lady liberty with a winged helmet.

Mercuy was a dude, and didn't wear a helmet.
his wings were right on his head ... poor guy.
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« Reply To This Topic #22 on: Dec 30, 2007, 06:47:59 AM »

Hermes wore a winged helmet also . One story says he loaned it to Perseus , to give him x-tra speed to get Medusa .

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« Reply To This Topic #23 on: Dec 30, 2007, 06:54:12 AM »

WARRIOR MAIDEN: Victorian Shell Cameo depicting Athena, the Goddess of War, wearing a helmet carved with her father Zeus' head. This represents the mythological legend of Athena being born by "springing" from the head of Zeus

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« Reply To This Topic #24 on: Dec 30, 2007, 06:58:00 AM »

Very cool cameo Christie.
Beautifly done.

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« Reply To This Topic #25 on: Dec 30, 2007, 06:59:34 AM »

Very cool cameo Christie.
Beautifly done.

Thom

... yea, except... no wings on the helmet Smiley   ;)   Cheesy 

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« Reply To This Topic #26 on: Dec 30, 2007, 07:01:47 AM »

Didnt Nate from Ohio find something like this a little while back....except it was double headed.....
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« Reply To This Topic #27 on: Dec 30, 2007, 07:10:58 AM »

I want to thank everyone for the replies on this mystery woman piece, and especially the TN mods.
I never thought I'd make a banner find, but I was wrong. Very cool. Thank you.
Hopefully we can figure out just exactly who this Goddess is.
True story.....When I was out there hunting yesterday, I wasn't finding much at first and was getting a bit discouraged. I started talking to my Dad (actually to myself) who passed away in August. I said "come on Dad show me a sign that you are watching me, and help me find something good."  Well, I'm thinking this may have been that sign. I know, I'm crazy, right?  Grin
He used to love it when I would e-mail him pictures of what I found in my TN posts. I really miss those times now.

Pictures of the back to follow.
Thanks TN folks.
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