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This post is a good example of how archaeologists and metal detectorists can work together to solve the mysteries of our past.
It all started in late December 2007... I was chatting with a Texas archaeologist, and he was expressing his amazement that the location of the Battle of Medina has never been located/confirmed.
I posted some rough info here: 1300 or so died in the battle; there are mass graves; and most certainly relics to be found; most likely on ranch or farm land, etc.
I decided to do a little more research on this, and asked fellow San Antonians / Texans to join me on a hunt. I would do the footwork, the research, and try to gain permission.
... well, shortly after that, I received (and reposted) this press release from Austin Community College and Dan Arellano, Author of Tejano Roots....
The “Battle of Medina” Archeological dig.
On Saturday January 26, 2008 the volunteers for this research will assemble at 8:30 A.M., at the N.West intersection of Hi 281 South at 1604 at the Shell-McDonalds station south of San Antonio. From there we will be led to a private ranch where it has been rumored that artifacts have been discovered identifying this area as the possible location of the Battle of Medina. The team will be led by Dr Andres Tijerina Ph.D. Texas History Professor at Austin Community College and Dan Arellano, Author of Tejano Roots. Amateur and Professional Historians are invited to participate in this historical event.
It is an isolated location and volunteers are asked to bring their own lunch and water. Bring your metal detectors and shovels.
The Battle of Medina was the biggest and bloodiest battle ever fought on Texas soil. Over a thousand Tejanos sacrificed their lives for freedom and democracy that to this day remain unknown and unrecognized for their ultimate sacrifice.
Dan Arellano
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TXBLUZMAN
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« Reply To This Topic #1 on: Dec 30, 2007, 02:27:53 PM » |
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Count me in. I live in La Vernia just outside SAT and I'd be glad to join you. I was discussing this topic with another t-netter and he knows where the battlefield location is. I'm not sure how large the battlefield area was but he knows the general vicinity. PM me if you'd like to discuss it more or do some t'hunting around San Antonio.
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« Reply To This Topic #2 on: Dec 30, 2007, 02:43:21 PM » |
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Having lived in Uvalde,which is just west of Hondo,I have been thru Bandera and Medina.It was before my treasure days,however.as I was still bass fishing at that time.But I can certainally turn you on to some great Mexican food in Uvalde.Of course the Oasis on Medina Lake I understand is also very nice.I would possibly be very interested in joining/helping with this venture.
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« Reply To This Topic #3 on: Dec 30, 2007, 05:58:00 PM » |
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OHHH Im in, when? and of course where? As a Texan I am embarresed not to have heard of this till now.
Id be honored to help, Albert
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« Reply To This Topic #4 on: Dec 30, 2007, 07:29:25 PM » |
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I would make that trip. What an awsome experience that would be!
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« Reply To This Topic #5 on: Dec 30, 2007, 07:47:32 PM » |
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Sounds good! Keep us Posted! A little good will with the archies can't hurt either.
Ron
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At least its an old pull tab!
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« Reply To This Topic #6 on: Jan 02, 2008, 12:36:46 AM » |
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Hi Marc here is a link to the Newspaper there in Uvalde, Tx. 78802 Phone Number: 1-830-278-3335 Fax Nuber: 1-830-278-9191 The Uvalde Leader-News 110 No. East St. Uvalde, Texas 78802 http://www.uvaldeleadernews.com/i had a great uncle in Batesville, Tx. when i was a kid who we visited I hope this Info. helps in the Quest in locateing that battlefield Marc I have also located a link which might help you http://www.tejanoroots.org/index.htmlhttp://www.presidiolabahia.org/early_history.htmhttp://www.tejanoroots.org/family_legend.htmhttp://www.tejanoahp.org/news/news0705.htmBook Reference link: http://worldcat.org/wcpa/ow/daf40f35663b72f4a19afeb4da09e526.htmlhttp://www.co.bexar.tx.us/historic/SE/se.htm view #6 http://www.presidiolabahia.org/texas_revolution.htmTreasureHunter |
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« Reply To This Topic #7 on: Jan 02, 2008, 09:27:24 AM » |
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Hi Marc i just located a web site that shows the MAP Battle of Medina de Rio-Seco 14 July 1808 http://www.files.maproom.org/00/13/present.php?m=0050another links which describes the location: http://www.sanantonio.gov/planning/pdf/...0Study%20Area%206%20-%20version%203.PDFRefer to the top of Pg. 7 Map for Sale: http://www.demisoldepress.com/maps.htmItem number 31 Marc i am useing the Yahoo browser & have viewed all 100 pages which that browser showed |
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2008 COIN COUNTER Wheaties- 32 Memorial Pennies- 259 Silver War Nickles- Nickles-51 Dimes- Quarters-3 Halves-3 Dollars- Clad-$19.71 so far JUNK- <Plenty nails, pulltabs, and S-caps> |
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« Reply To This Topic #8 on: Jan 02, 2008, 10:30:08 AM » |
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i sure would like to go but new jersey is to far away from you for me to drive but here is some info for you Commemoration of 193rd Anniversary of the Battle of Medina Date/Time: 8/19/2006 11:00 AM - 1:00 PM Location: Near Espey, Atascosa Co., TX, vicinity of Pleasanton Explicit directional map can be provided Espey and Pleasanton, Texas 78064 Cost: None Contact: Wm. Hightower Chapter, TX Society, Sons of the Am. Rev. 281-922-1118 (Tom Green), 512-392-2097 (Joe Cox) Tbgreen3@prodigy.net (Green). jandhcox@thrifty.net (Cox) maybe you can call the number and someone there can help good luck!! |
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« Reply To This Topic #9 on: Jan 02, 2008, 12:31:17 PM » |
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As TXBLUZMAN stated, we've talked about trying to hunt this area. X-Terra50_TreasureHunter pretty well covered all of the information that I had on the possible site. There is a public school in the near vicinity of where the battle probably took place. All of the other land is largely divided according to tax records. Marc, I'd love to join you on this one. Let me know what I can do to help.
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« Reply To This Topic #10 on: Jan 02, 2008, 06:35:41 PM » |
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Just sent him a email maybe I'll get to go.
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« Reply To This Topic #11 on: Jan 02, 2008, 07:47:57 PM » |
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You are more than welcome to come and bring your equipment. We will be departing at 8;30 A.M. from the Shell station at 1604 and Hi 281 south to the site which is about ten minutes from there. Loop 1604 circles San Antonio so depending from where you are coming you have to get to the southside. I will have my cell with me 512-826-7569
Dan
quick replyI think I'm gonna go
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« Reply To This Topic #12 on: Jan 02, 2008, 11:27:05 PM » |
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VERY VERY COOL! I hope you can take pics, and use a GPS! Keep us posted! If there's anyway I can make it, I will be there too! (but it's not that likely that I will be able to  ) I will try.... sounds like a GREAT project! Marc |
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« Reply To This Topic #13 on: Jan 03, 2008, 07:45:51 PM » |
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Let me know when and I can help out.
Stephen P. Walker
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« Reply To This Topic #14 on: Jan 03, 2008, 08:21:57 PM » |
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Best I can find out so far is all finds go to the property owner/owners (?), but documented by Mr. Arellano. About 30 will be in attendance weather permitting, I dont know how many are experienced detectorist.
May not have to do any digging though.
I am unsure at this time to the real possibility of finding the grave sight.(or the Texas Historical gods and godesses real intrest)
Any one wants to P.M. me I will be glad to give my Cell and we can talk about it, or just Call Mr. Arello yourselves, he is quite excited about the historical significance, and the adventure, as am I.
At this time, weather permitting (colds O.k with me just no rain Ice or snow)I'm still in.
T.C.
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« Reply To This Topic #15 on: Jan 03, 2008, 09:24:58 PM » |
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I'm in. ;)
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« Reply To This Topic #16 on: Jan 03, 2008, 11:06:12 PM » |
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I'm in. Need some more info though.
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« Reply To This Topic #17 on: Jan 04, 2008, 06:14:15 AM » |
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I just emailed him. Waiting for a response. Do they have enough volunteers or will they allow more people to go? I'm in if they let me go.
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« Reply To This Topic #18 on: Jan 04, 2008, 08:40:11 AM » |
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I'm in! See you at the Shell/McDonalds @ 0830 on 1/26/08.
If you need directions or if the out of town guys want to meet up and ride together pm me.
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« Reply To This Topic #19 on: Jan 04, 2008, 11:37:30 AM » |
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I'm in. Hopefully I'll see you all there: You are more than welcome to attend. There will be a sign up sheet requesting contact information a hold harmless agreement, in case of accidents and a confidential agreement meaning if we find artificats you will keep the location confidential.Hope to see you there.Bring lunch and water for yourself. For more info on the Battle of Medina go to www.tejanoroots.orgDan PS: wouldn't mind a hat. |
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« Reply To This Topic #20 on: Jan 04, 2008, 11:44:28 AM » |
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Marc,
If you are going to send hats you are more than welcome to send them to me and I can pass them out when I get there. That'll save on having to mail them to 100 different locations. I emailed you my address. I'd be more than happy to bring them and sell them....err...I mean give them to the fellas.
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« Reply To This Topic #21 on: Jan 04, 2008, 12:43:47 PM » |
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TXBLUZMAN,
Any good hotels near the meeting place? Would appreciate the help.
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« Reply To This Topic #22 on: Jan 04, 2008, 05:01:42 PM » |
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Im thinking of taking my camper to the camp ground thats close to there and would def like someone to go in halves with me It has 3 beds
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« Reply To This Topic #23 on: Jan 05, 2008, 12:42:15 PM » |
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« Reply To This Topic #24 on: Jan 06, 2008, 04:37:12 PM » |
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I'm in. I'll be cruzin' with the TXBLUZMAN. Marc...I'll sport one of those fancy hats if you send a few!
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« Reply To This Topic #25 on: Jan 06, 2008, 05:48:41 PM » |
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TNet is all over this one. It would be awsome if we do find the battle sight. I'm coming from the Houston area. See you all there!
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« Reply To This Topic #26 on: Jan 06, 2008, 07:58:13 PM » |
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Marc, my wife and i live in San Antonio. that would be a great experience trying to locate that battle. We would be interested in the event, just let us know.
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« Reply To This Topic #27 on: Jan 09, 2008, 09:01:13 PM » |
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If it is going to materialize, please keep me in mind! I would definately make arrangements to come hunt!
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« Reply To This Topic #28 on: Jan 21, 2008, 12:37:43 PM » |
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This battle has been research and a book has been written on it.A friend of mine help with the detector hunting part of it and he think's in was in the late 1990's.He's going to look for the book so he can give me the author's name.He did say it hadn't been long ago that he was ask to go again.
I'll get back with you on the subject later when I got a name.
Chuck
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