What is KGC

I'm new to TN and I'm seeing all these posts about KGC. Please help! What does KGC stand for and what is it? If there is a link to a post or something please provide.

Nevermind. I read a few posts, found a few links, BLAM-O...Found out it is Knights of the Golden Circle. Very interesting!

Ahh thats what it means.

Hey Boattow,

Have you seen National Treasure II yet?
It's kind of funny...there is a guy in the movie that is wearing a lapel pin that says "KGC". What a hoot!

TW

   It was a good movie in the beginning... the REST... HA!   KGC on "pin" PROBABLY meant KRAZY GARAGE BAND... wasn't that in the "bar scene"?       SERIOUSLY, if ya wanna know what the emblem is, look at SHADOW OF THE SENTINEL; it is on the apron  (UNDER THE SADDLE) on the REB'S horse "pic" (# 9); a WAXING CRESENT MOON, WITH A BLAZING STAR IN THE MIDDLE.   A "BLAZING STAR"  is a symbol in FreeMasonry.   PROBABLY  wasn't ANYONE wearing "pins" back in the "old days"; NOT even sure it woulda been on a horse's apron.       ;)

Yo Rebel,

You must be talking about this symbol

TW

Yo!      NAW; it is at Gen. John Anthony Quitman's left knee, below his sword... it stated he was Scottish Rite FreeMason.  You cut it off too soon....    ALSO... read the "caption" to the "pic".      ;)

Yo!     That was BETTER... "caption" to "pic":  "General John Anthony Quitman, a pro-slavery ideologue with high status in Scottish Rite Masonic circles.  His pre-civil War KGC affiliation is SUGGESTED by the STAR AND CRESENT SYMBOLS on the horse's riding apron". "Pic" # 9 - SHADOW OF THE SENTINEL - Warren Getler & Bob Brewer (aka HillBilly Bob... Blind Bowman...).  THANKS! HILLBILLY!!!    ;)

Rebel,

Is that better? ;)

TW

Yo!      Yes! TW, that is BETTER... since pp can see the "caption", too.   You had it correct the FIRST time; it was I that erred... it was on "Wide-screen" & I thought it was "cut off"... LOL... STUPID ME... new-fangled contraption!!   Gotta pay MORE attention to "bottom" of screen to see if it needs to be "enlarged".   ANYWAY, if pp want a "close-up", the focus can be on the BLAZING STAR/CRESENT MOON symbol... MAYBE, Blind Bowman will come on board here, and tell us MORE...   ;)

and yes the KGC did indeed exist, just one of many names for the FAMily, Im not gonna get in a spitting match over this fact, but indeed the family had many names, one thing they all have in common is initiation, if you find a group that has this such as rose croix ,masons, templars , kgc ect.. they all are initiates, the names really dont matter as they are all the same, and it reached into every culture and place on the planet, back to bc times, as you study sites and masonry you can see commonalities, they become real apparent, the things i see and know are definatly from an elite group of gentleman, who were masters of knowledge and  religeous culture and art, an amazing group for sure, probably the main question Ive always had is WHY?, a mystery in its self, any way good luck guys Tammahawk

You think the picture and other KGC items had anything to do with Bob Brewer working with the folks in Orlando for the last 18 months on this movie? 

treasuredawg

You think the picture and other KGC items had anything to do with Bob Brewer working with the folks in Orlando for the last 18 months on this movie? 

treasuredawg

What movie?

TW

National Treasure - part two
ss

National Treasure - part two
ss

Thanks SS,

I was having a sr. moment

TW

    A SENIOR MOMENT?  I thought it was a THer's Moment; I get those, too AND! a TBI moment... my wife has an occasional '"Blonde Moment"... HA! 

whats on page 46?

   A SENIOR MOMENT?  I thought it was a THer's Moment; I get those, too AND! a TBI moment... my wife has an occasional '"Blonde Moment"... HA! 

Lol, yep I have them all the time
The old wolf turned 51 today....I'm guessing it is only gonna get worse ;)

TW

51 ?   HA!  yer just a young 'un... will be 57    on the 27th;  33, what p. 46?  HillBilly's book?   MOSTLY about Scottish Rite 1801-1860... & War of 1812...       I am NOT having a "PMS MOMENT"!!!

Kiddrock33, I think the movie referenced a page in the secret presidents book. Maybe that was page 46 but i don't recall. When Gage arrived at the hiding place of the secret book his partners wanted to look at stuff like Area 51 and other topics but the cops were alerted by the president and moving in. By looking at the page number that the president told him he found the clue to the treasure. Some folks haven't seen the movie yet and I don't want to ruin it for them. siegfried schlagrule

Yo!     Now, I was having a S.M. (Senior Moment)... THANKS, SS.   Wasn't it page 26?  National Treasure # 2 actually has TWO cases of "missing pages", Booth's Diary (PROBABLY related to NORTHERN KGC "against" Lincoln), & the the President "Secret Book"... it MAY exist, DUNNO, NOT! "in the know".   

There are 18 pages missing from the Booth Diary and they went missing after his diary was seized and sent to the Secretary of War ?Stanton?. The movie hinges around one of the pages being recovered and containing a code that gets broken during the course of the movie. siegfried schlagrule

My Grandfather was a Quitman, and so am I.  Scot?  Yes...  Craftsmen?  Yes... Warrior as well.

  Treasure Wonder?  Always.......................

Folks, it was page 47, I believe, in the movie. 47 is a useful number to know about, research it and see what you find.

Cavers5

i think it was 46 but i thought that it should have been 47. 47 th problem of euclid. the pythagerus theorum concerning a 90 degree triangle, involving the 3,4,5, ratio to form a perfect 90 degree corner. in a right triangle. kiddrock33

    Greetings to all!  BRO 33, got yer PM; we meet on "the Level"; a "blog" that MAY be of "interest" is @
http://www.thepresidentsbook.com/  and you can ALSO "google"  PRESIDENT'S SECRET BOOK or THE PRESIDENT'S BOOK;   read with DISCERNMENT... ;)

The Knights of the Golden Circle Support the Confederacy
Wednesday, June 30, 2010
By Alice Mullaly
Jefferson Public Radio
http://www.ijpr.org/Feature.asp?FeatureID=1555

Welcome to As It Was: Tales from the State of Jefferson

As many as 2,500 Southern sympathizers in Oregon joined the national Knights
of the Golden Circle society that supported the Confederacy during the Civil
War. One of its chapters was in Jacksonville.

The organization used secret passwords and signs. If a man stroked his beard
with thumb and first finger of his right hand touching and another responded
by scratching behind his right ear, these men would know they were both
Knights of the Golden Circle.

Some members supported forming an independent Republic of the Pacific Coast
that would condone a labor force of Chinese, Hawaiian, and Negro slaves.

More menacingly, these secret groups bought guns and practiced military
drills. An Oregon militia troop was called up in 1864 to quell the threat of
openly militant Knights in the Long Tom and Siuslaw River valleys of
Southwest Oregon.

Joseph Lane, Oregon's Indian fighter, outspoken southern sympathizer and the
state's first U.S. Senator, was sent back to Oregon in disgrace, accused of
smuggling guns to the Knights.

With the defeat of the South in the Civil War, the Knights of the Golden
Circle vanished, but their beliefs persisted with many people.

Today's episode of As It Was was written by Alice Mullaly, the program
producer is Raymond Scully. I'm Shirley Patton. As It Was is a
co-production of JPR and the Southern Oregon Historical Society. To share
stories or learn more about the series, visit asitwas - dot.org.

Source: McLagan, Elizabeth, A Peculiar Paradise: a History of Blacks in
Oregon, 1788-1940, The Oregon Black History Project, Georgian Press, 1980

http://knights-of-the-golden-circle.blogspot.com

Yo!     That was BETTER... "caption" to "pic":  "General John Anthony Quitman, a pro-slavery ideologue with high status in Scottish Rite Masonic circles.  His pre-civil War KGC affiliation is SUGGESTED by the STAR AND CRESENT SYMBOLS on the horse's riding apron". "Pic" # 9 - SHADOW OF THE SENTINEL - Warren Getler & Bob Brewer (aka HillBilly Bob... Blind Bowman...).  THANKS! HILLBILLY!!!    ;)

The symbol on Quitman's shabrack is his rank insignia, its a spread eagle and star which signifies he is a Brig General. It has nothing to do with anything else. He was a member of the Order of the Lone Star and possibly KGC but this is a military picture.

The Knights of the Golden Circle Support the Confederacy
Wednesday, June 30, 2010
By Alice Mullaly
Jefferson Public Radio
http://www.ijpr.org/Feature.asp?FeatureID=1555

Welcome to As It Was: Tales from the State of Jefferson

As many as 2,500 Southern sympathizers in Oregon joined the national Knights
of the Golden Circle society that supported the Confederacy during the Civil
War. One of its chapters was in Jacksonville.

The organization used secret passwords and signs. If a man stroked his beard
with thumb and first finger of his right hand touching and another responded
by scratching behind his right ear, these men would know they were both
Knights of the Golden Circle.

Some members supported forming an independent Republic of the Pacific Coast
that would condone a labor force of Chinese, Hawaiian, and Negro slaves.

More menacingly, these secret groups bought guns and practiced military
drills. An Oregon militia troop was called up in 1864 to quell the threat of
openly militant Knights in the Long Tom and Siuslaw River valleys of
Southwest Oregon.

Joseph Lane, Oregon's Indian fighter, outspoken southern sympathizer and the
state's first U.S. Senator, was sent back to Oregon in disgrace, accused of
smuggling guns to the Knights.

With the defeat of the South in the Civil War, the Knights of the Golden
Circle vanished, but their beliefs persisted with many people.

Today's episode of As It Was was written by Alice Mullaly, the program
producer is Raymond Scully. I'm Shirley Patton. As It Was is a
co-production of JPR and the Southern Oregon Historical Society. To share
stories or learn more about the series, visit asitwas - dot.org.

Source: McLagan, Elizabeth, A Peculiar Paradise: a History of Blacks in
Oregon, 1788-1940, The Oregon Black History Project, Georgian Press, 1980

http://knights-of-the-golden-circle.blogspot.com

Thanks for posting this! Knew Jacksonville, OR was a center for KGC. Found a small newspaper clipping in a scrapbook at the Oregon Historical Society in the 1980's. Went like this" "Wanted for Horsethieving! One John Wilkes Booth, actor, late of Jacksonville, last seen hightailing it toward Susanville." Susanville, CA was the closest railhead at the time. This was dated about 6 months before Lincoln's assasination.

On the West Coast, KGC were an integral part of the Henry Plummer Gang. Group dedicated to one thing: accumulating sufficient gold to allow the south to rise again. Might have been an accurate premise. Before being hung, Henry Plummer is supposed to have told his jailor, "If you let me out, I will give you your weight in gold tomorrow." There's no reason to believe that wouldn't have happened.

Serious KGC researchers MUST READ Dimsdale's "Vigillante Justice".

"Confederate Agent" by James D. Horan gives a lot of factual information about the Knights of the Golden Circle at:

http://www.archive.org/details/confederateagent011673mbp 

So does John H. Surratt's Diary here:

http://www.archive.org/details/privatejournaldi00surr 

~Texas Jay
http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/KK/vbk1.html