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Posted Mar 16, 2008, 01:02:18 PM

   I had an awesome day.
   Bob and I`s first stop was a little north of Chavis Park in Raleigh where i found what i think is a 
   buckle.
   Plus more brass and lead.
   Any ideas on its age or how to straighten Huh
 
   Our second stop was back to Dorthea Dix where i snagged this 1942 Quarter. Yippee
   Plus toys and clad.

   My last find was at the recycling dumpsters where i found these 3 bottles of Wine.

   Bummer it looks like theres gunk on my lens.

     

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  • Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 01:05:37 PM
    Wow ,that hurts . If you heat it up you should be able to bend it back . I would be very careful and go real slow. Very cool find!

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    Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 01:14:56 PM
    wow nice buckle............

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  • Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 01:16:58 PM
    A CW BUCKLE!!!!  You dog you.  Cheesy
    Bill, that's a great find! You go from aluminum cans to CW buckles. Hopefully you can get er' straightened out. I don't think I would even try though. I'd be a fraid of snapping it in half.  Cry
    AWESOME!!!
    Congrats on the SILVER too. Did you leave Bob anything?  Cheesy
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    Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 01:23:24 PM
    Heres as close a match as i can find but it`s not an exact match.

    About halfway down on this page.

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    Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 01:28:15 PM
    That looks similar to my everyday buckle!

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    Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 01:31:51 PM
    Excellent finds!

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    Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 01:33:11 PM
    1851 Federal Sword waist plate.
    Looks like an exact match to me.
    http://www.relicman.com/ArchivePlateFedGovSword1851.htm
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    Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 01:38:44 PM
    nice finds, but the quarter in your picture says 1962, not 1942..but either way it is silver and alot more than im finding

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  • Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 02:06:03 PM
    nice finds, but the quarter in your picture says 1962, not 1942..but either way it is silver and alot more than im finding

    I think Bill hit the wine BEFORE posting.  icon_scratch Cheesy
    Just kidding Bill. I'd be celebrating too.  thumbsup
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    Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 02:26:01 PM
    Beauty! check around before unrolling it, if you decide to do so.

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    Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 03:01:01 PM
    I think this is it, Bill  http://www.civilwarpreservations.com/catdet.asp?TargetItem=BBR336&CategoryType=relics

    You did great today...  Your Ace kicked by X-terras butt. Way to go.
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    Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 03:03:58 PM
    Thanks GL i starred at that page for almost a half an hour trying to get an exact match.
     no such luck, but very close on most of them so i`m guessing it dates around 1851.
    If it is cast it will impossible to straighten.
    It`s amazing that this one got bent up this much without breaking.

    Thanks Allen for finding my typo. / Wishfull thinking i guess.

    Thanks everyone for looking and you replies.

    Bob found some wheats and clad but left me his aluminum and copper.
    Thanks Bob for the recyclables ( And your company).

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  • Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 03:05:15 PM
    I think this is it, Bill  http://www.civilwarpreservations.com/catdet.asp?TargetItem=BBR336&CategoryType=relics

    You did great today...  Your Ace kicked by X-terras butt. Way to go.
      icon_thumleft

    Great ID Bob.
    By the way, why are you MDing with a Nissan X-terra???  Wink
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    Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 03:09:01 PM

    Bob found some wheats and clad but left me his aluminum and copper.
    Thanks Bob for the recyclables ( And your company).


    You're welcome.  Glad I could help.    
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    Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 03:10:47 PM
    Thanks bob but theres no berries in the shrubbery of the eagles right foot on the one you sent me.

    I think it feels and looks like brass, so i`ll probably try a little heat.  (Not tonight though, to much wine Tongue
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    Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 03:12:01 PM
    By the way... looks like your best find of the day is on your tailgate.
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  • Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 03:12:39 PM
    Nice find indeed , When i was a kid thats how we would steal beer, haul it out to the dumpster, you likely got someones stash

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    Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 03:17:16 PM
    what a great find
    sorry i didn't make it
    put a lot of hours at work last week
    nice birthday present from the metal detecting gods
    going to Atlantic city
    hope to have some spots for us when i get back
    see ya in 2 weeks
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    Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 03:19:02 PM
    what a great find
    sorry i didn't make it
    put a lot of hours at work last week
    nice birthday present from the metal detecting gods
    going to Atlantic city
    hope to have some spots for us when i get back
    see ya in 2 weeks
    nick

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    Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 03:20:34 PM
    Great day. That Muscadine Wine is good stuff. Good day to be out certainly no basketball on worth watching.
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    Reply To This Topic #21 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 03:24:25 PM

       My last find was at the recycling dumpsters where i found these 3 bottles of Wine...

           

    Hey, maybe we should go dumpster diving next week.  I could use a couple bottles of wine more than a few clad quarters, dimes and aluminum cans.   binkybaby
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    Reply To This Topic #22 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 05:24:17 PM
    It is an 1851.. seems there are variations.. different manufactors?? I really... really would not try to straighten it.. even if you do get it straight the plate will have stress fractures and the patina will pop off any where there were stress fracture... soo even if it "flat" it won't look good.. besides you have a 100% as dug buckle!!! Go with it!!!


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    Reply To This Topic #23 Posted Mar 16, 2008, 05:37:27 PM
    hey can I see the truck better?  does it have a motorcycle in the bed?  cool finds 

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    Reply To This Topic #24 Posted Mar 19, 2008, 12:20:05 PM
    These things are popping up all over the place.  Here's another one:  http://www.treasurequestxlt.com/community/ask-ole-pappy/17958-military-belt-buckle.html
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    Reply To This Topic #25 Posted Mar 19, 2008, 05:50:33 PM
    the bottle on the left looks like a ice vine, pretty nice but super sweet wine "pair with desserts". oh and great day
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    Reply To This Topic #26 Posted Mar 20, 2008, 02:20:06 PM
    hey can I see the truck better?  does it have a motorcycle in the bed?  cool finds 

    Sorry i didn`t clean it better bridgeendfarm, it appears someone stole 2 of the tires and rims.

    I also thought it was a cool little Chevy looking  hot wheels truck. 

    Let me know if you want it, i`ll ship it ASAP.

    Thanks everyone for looking.

    FYI i`ve almost finished bottle #2 of the wines and they have really been sweet so far.
    Saving the long neck for last tard

    Still trying to decide if i should straighten and anneal this awesome buckle.

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    Reply To This Topic #27 Posted Mar 20, 2008, 02:37:34 PM
    It is an 1851.. seems there are variations.. different manufactors?? I really... really would not try to straighten it.. even if you do get it straight the plate will have stress fractures and the patina will pop off any where there were stress fracture... soo even if it "flat" it won't look good.. besides you have a 100% as dug buckle!!! Go with it!!!


    MonkeyBoy
    Well said Mark....I'd take it as is.Beautiful find,gonna make you think more about the when,where,how and why's of it.Congrat's and HH!!
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  • Reply To This Topic #28 Posted Mar 20, 2008, 03:17:46 PM
    Yes, it is a Civil War era Sword Belt Plate and it is nice.  Goood Job bud Wink Wink Wink

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    Reply To This Topic #29 Posted Mar 20, 2008, 03:47:00 PM
    That guy who bent up that buckle must have been p&%#$@ off... what a shame
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    Reply To This Topic #30 Posted Mar 20, 2008, 04:06:13 PM
    There are people that do professional restorations on those old relics and do outstanding work.  I would bet Robert McDaniel could make that look aweful nice.

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  • Reply To This Topic #31 Posted Mar 21, 2008, 09:20:47 AM
    There are people that do professional restorations on those old relics and do outstanding work.  I would bet Robert McDaniel could make that look aweful nice.

    Good advice...let a pro restore it for you!

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    Reply To This Topic #32 Posted Mar 21, 2008, 04:31:36 PM
    Very, very nice finds. Congrats 2 you!

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  • Reply To This Topic #33 Posted Mar 21, 2008, 05:20:01 PM
    Robert McDaniel can do wonders with this plate.  256-767-6636
    Very Nice find and only 40 minutes from me! Congrats!
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  • Reply To This Topic #34 Posted Mar 21, 2008, 05:28:50 PM
    There are people that do professional restorations on those old relics and do outstanding work.  I would bet Robert McDaniel could make that look aweful nice.

    Do NOT try to straighten it yourself.  I have done that before, and it is the SCARIEST experience EVER!  The difference is that you have a CIVIL WAR sword belt plate...I just had a pre-war militia plate that wasn't worth the money for a professional restoration.  If you want it "unrolled," let a professional do it, or leave it as-is.  That is a GREAT find!  I hope you turn up some old lead or CW buttons there.  Nice work!!!


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