Basic signs and symbols you have found

VonDigger a little blurry, i cant see a third horn
got a better pic

I'll see if I can find one
 Erin:)
"VonDigger"

Try This one.  Someone painted over it, but you can see the third horn on the head, the way the carving looks it the third horn is pointing out right above his eyes.  As I said before though, there is no real rhyme or reason why it is there, and I don't think it has anything to do with the cemetary.  i could be wrong too LOL.

Erin
"VonDigger"

Erin,
I agree it has nothing to do with the cemetary,
and yes it may be a lot older than any of us suspect.

Thanks for sharing

Anytime, the next time I am in the area I may try and poke around a little and see if there is a ridge or some landmark it is looking at and try going from there.  Thats why I posted it here, cause i have no clue what it is for LOL.  But thanks for looking.

Erin
"VonDigger"

I would think that the eyes are telling you more than the 3 horns. ones open and ones closed.

im really curious about the drill holes. ive seen many but i never thought they were signs. kinda makes me sad that i didnt pay enough attention to remember where ive seen them.

Very interesting,
I know what else i"ll be looking for.
keep the info coming.
 Weekender

 Dsty ,
 If someone finds your posts offensive why don't we just delete them , instead .
Please keep your posts coming .
 Jim

Kind of agree with Jim,
if they are really bugging you hit that ignore button.
send the mods copies of the questionable pms.

I would think that the eyes are telling you more than the 3 horns. ones open and ones closed.

im really curious about the drill holes. ive seen many but i never thought they were signs. kinda makes me sad that i didnt pay enough attention to remember where ive seen them.

I know the picture isn't the greatest, but I do know both eyes are open, some body painted the carving and the crack makes the eye on the left look closed, but it isn't.  The next time I go up that way, I need to take a second look at that very closely, I live over 180 miles away from it, it's gonna be a while.

Erin
"VonDigger"

i have seen horns depicted, similar to this. oak / holly king,

drill holes are used for blasting such as mining. i believe drill holes can be some what dated by determining what type drill , drilled the hole. older method was a star bit and hammer, newer use power driven tools with differant type of bit tip. supposedly the bottem of the hole will be differant such as one would be rounder while the other was squarer .

drill holes are used for blasting such as mining. i believe drill holes can be some what dated by determining what type drill , drilled the hole. older method was a star bit and hammer, newer use power driven tools with differant type of bit tip. supposedly the bottem of the hole will be differant such as one would be rounder while the other was squarer .

more info on that, i think there is 5-6 pgs of info
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/fspubs/84232602/page01.htm

Dont worry about what other people think dsty. If they dont want to learn than to bad for them. I really like your posts and the information i learn from them. please keep sharing what you have learned.

I also always thought that drill holes had to to with only mining but i have seen very shallow holes. If it had to do with mining, what good would a hole a few inches deep do.

one drill hole i saw , when filled with water the puddle produced a perfect diamond shape. it was 12 inch deep. about 1 and 1/4 inch wide. two other holes were present one 66 yards west of this one , it is only 1 inch deep .third one was 46.669 yards from these two forming a perfect 90 degree corner of a triangle.

Here is an example of  drill hole  like dsty mentioned with the drilling debris piled near it. Everything done for a purpose.

Note the nice flat angles on the rock sides. They do seem to be significant here. However not  finished investigating.



Closer look



You do take a tape measure or two out with you..yes?


There may be additional information around the hole.



Whoops! Surpise half drill hole going down one side of the rock.


Many things to ponder on this rock. This is a surveyors diary.




Thanks dsty for all your help and encouragement and good humour with drillholes!

Just a few more.

Here is an example where the tail tells a tale.





Most drill holes I've found, but not all,  have other information around to help or confuse.

This sort of obvious.




This hole which is basically horizontal and perfectly round when you get at the right angle...


Had 3 other additional pieces of info near it. Here is one.

looks like the old turtle in post # 393 scored big time?? mmmmmmmmmmm tenclaw============

about desertmoons pictures, how do you suppose that you get that kind of debris from a drill,i would think it would be chips or flakes not round pebbles? brent

Does anyone know where or who this is, looks like gold bars.  Looks like western country to me, the slope is interesting, the area that does not have any vegetation looks like a big O to me, possible that it came from nearby. Thanks for the help

Hey DSTY,

The man is a friend of mine. The pics were taken in 1986 in Southern Arizona.

Happy New Year-Mike

Hope this comes thru, is this a real treasure cache.

i would have had a look see

Hello CW In the turtle head that was on my site it only served to verify that something was in the area, it should have an eye or something on it to indicate, or perhaps something nearby within 4/5 feet. you should have drill holes in the area, Has anyone out there ever seen a drill hole on the North side of the hill, most if not all that I've seen have been on the South side and top , and a few in dry creek  beds, perhaps you have seen  one on the East side.

Yes we have one drill hole that is a lone hole for the location. After extensive looking all we could think to do with it was to put a stick in it and get a compass bearing. The stick points due North. But it is the only one we have found to date that points North.
A lot of the lower signs have been lost because a road was put through and has been paved and improved. (I guess the Spanish trails are good for something.) Most of the signs and symbols remain and are fresh because very few people stop anywhere near them now. Unusual for these kind of places nowdays.

The drill hole is a single hole in a sheer face about waist high to a man on horseback.
When the stick is inserted it is parallel to the ground and points due north.

The hole in the picture posted above points almost due South.
I have found very few drill holes around here that are straight down or slightly leaning.

hello dsty was wondering about blind corners?what the heck r they? thanks brent

hello daniellindsey, welcome from me too even though i am a greenie. this site builds fires don't it? ha ha. glad you enjoy it=== tenclaw===

I have to agree with that sentiment.
There is no feeling quite like the one you get when the sign is discovered for the first time.
I think of it as the Columbus feeling,

I like to think Columbus must have felt something like it when he first saw the new world.

After going through a few thousand pictures ...
I found another drill hole photo.
As promised I will post them as I find them.

This is just an example type picture.
There is no plausible trail associated with this picture as the stone is part of a pathway.
When the US Forest Service made walking paths in some of the National Parks ...
they used any available source of stone they could get, especially the free stuff.
That meant the loose monuments and markers were collected and put into these projects.
This stone is part of one of those projects.

Dsty, I really appreciate you sharing your pictures and knowledge with us. I know that you have been doing this for years and have a wealth of boots on the ground experience under your belt....So, here is our one measley little drill hole we found...it was on the lower left side of the stone throne which is also pictured...Steve&Gypsy

Here is a rock that sits at the mouth of a canyon, There are many rocks with drill holes in them. This is about as big as a city bus, and is prop at an angle that is not normal. If you look back and my owl rock post you can also see holes that are nor quite drill holes but more like indentations. and there is a pattern of sorts. any way enjoy.

THAT LOOKS LIKE A LIONS HEAD FACING LEFT.............. WHY A LIONS HEAD 

THAT LOOKS LIKE A LIONS HEAD FACING LEFT.............. WHY A LIONS HEAD 

I am not so sure about a lions head, Look at the whole thing my friend and see if a giant frog isn't just looming  there.

Daniel,

     I reduced the size of your photos so I could see them in one pane each.  In the first one, I marked what appears to be a notched side of the hole as mentioned by another poster as a possible direction indicator.




The second photo kinda looks like a pig.  It certainly looks like it was "placed" by people and not nature. 

Daniel,
this could be another circle with a notch.  Just guessing
okey dokey

okey dokey,

Good catch, But I am noting tool marks that make a definite notch marked in red.
What do you think ?

od,
You are correct, as always.  Good eye.
okey dokey

od,
You are correct, as always.  Good eye.
okey dokey

Thanks for the kind words.
I have come to the conclusion that the learning process goes on,
I make a lot of choices that make me go back and do it over many times.
More lately, LOL
Getting older makes the difference ...
I have to carry the notebook now days LOL
I forget a lot.

dsty i know you have been looking at the pics as you've said, and
was wondering if you have looked at this thread, and what
you think about the pics, if you would rather reply in that thread thats ok
at your convenience, i dont know a lot about this sign, monument, stuff
still learning, and ever since jesus posted iv been trying to fig , out what
his site is saying, i dont remember any drill holes though. i tried to peice the
pics together, for a whole view but couldnt, to me it seems whatever is/was
there, would be way to the side of the monuments, because of the faces, the
way they are looking and looking at and past each other, i know thats prob
not enough to go on with out seeing the whole site
and he hasnt come back and said anything about it
thanks for looking

maybe you and thom/old dog should write a book, id buy it


http://forum.treasurenet.com/index....c,265834.msg1892057.html#msg1892057

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,265834.0.html

Clay,
The Book is a very important part of the passtime,
Most of us that do this for any lenth of time carry at least one.

As far as your rope goes May I recomend a couple hundred feet of clothesline.
Use a black 'sharpie' to mark off varas and different colors like red and blue to mark the fives and tens.
The cotton clothes line is light flexible and unobtrusive, it will be less likely to get in the way.

This way you can mark distances quickly, wasting less time.
Gives more time for unboggling the mind. LOL

THAT IS VERY USEFUL INFO OLDDOG. THANKS ALLOT!!!

Has anyone ever seen a drill hole in a lava rock?

Welcome aboard Bill,
To answer your question, I would need to know what kind of lava rock you speak of.
In post 1347 Desertmoons posted several holes all in granite, (a type of igneous rock, That once was lava)
I have pictures of drill holes in other types of igneous rocks as well. and will post them as I find them.

Show us what you have found.
Drill holes are distinct in their formation.
in an igneous type rock what is often mistaken for a drill hole, turns out to be air bubbles.
we would all like to see any pictures you have of this phenomena.

Thank you

I will get some pictures this weekend and try to post them.

Let me know if you have trouble posting pictures.
I am more than happy to help, I can help size them for you as well.

Hi Old Dog ! Want to say THANKS to you and and all the people who have posted such great pictures and information. Has anyone considered using a laser range finder for measuring distances ? Some of them also measure slope angles . Here is something thats driving me crazy because its so different from anything I've seen. Have yet to find any indicators leading to or from it so it might be a trick of Ma Nature. It shows up about 5PM in the early summer months. Has anybody seen something like this ?   Have fun. Jim

DSTY  Thank You for the Great posts on drill holes.  Yes ,range finders have drawbacks like straight line measurement and line of sight. Also, with camera , binoculars , compass, GPS and pack hanging off me it's one more thing added to the clutter. It seems all tools have limitations. Have fun Jim

Hey Tertiary..is this the anomaly of which you speak?

Sure looks quite interesting to me and i have seen somewhat similar "c" shaped rocks. I'm not saying it is a c by the way. Just sort of c shaped.


So take a torch and climb that hill and find that mine (or pozo...carrots yum)!

Just PURE speculation on my part by the way. Make your own decisions.

TJim,  is this big nosed guy the annomaly you're talking about?

Desertmoons , Shortstack .On the left boulder is the long haired , pointy eared, pixie looking critter or as Shortstack said the big nosed guy. Looks like something from a fairy tail.I spent some time trying ,unsuccessfully , to connect it with something else. It's unlike anything I've seen (so Ive not seen a lot ) and may just be a fluke. Still, I cant get this thing out of my head. Thanks for your interest. Have fun Jim

Daniel,

     I reduced the size of your photos so I could see them in one pane each.  In the first one, I marked what appears to be a notched side of the hole as mentioned by another poster as a possible direction indicator.

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The second photo kinda looks like a pig.  It certainly looks like it was "placed" by people and not nature. 

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So sorry to intervene. But I don't know what you mean by 'placed'. Do you mean this rock is not supposed to be here? I mean, I how did it get there then? Is it a marker? How do know the difference in where a rock fell and where one was placed? Just asking.

Jim,
the next time you're in that area, take a look to see what that big nosed guy is looking at.  Possibly somemore signs and symbols...........or..........

Nonsequiter wrote,            "So sorry to intervene. But I don't know what you mean by 'placed'. Do you mean this rock is not supposed to be here? I mean, I how did it get there then? Is it a marker? How do know the difference in where a rock fell and where one was placed? Just asking."
Being "placed" means that the stone piece was shaped and moved into position for a specific reason;  either to get attention, present a direction to look or go, or to be a part of another monument.  That "pig looking" stone is sitting on at least 2 small, flat stones, sort of like two "footers".  It just looks artificially place by somebody, not nature. 

These are just my ideas of what I see in the photos.  I'm just a beginner at this.  Old Dog, rangler, desertmoons, Victorio and several others on this thread (and forum) are the real-deal professionals.  I almost called them "experts", but that label would be an insult.  Mr. Carl Sandberg defined an expert as, "a fool who's a long way from home."     And I certainly agree.  A self-proclaimed expert is a fool.  Non of those folks I just named are fools.  They are highly knowledgeable and are constantly trying to learn MORE.  Those folks can be trusted.      Rebel-KGC, swiftsearcher, truckinbutch, dsty,  and the Oroblanko's are a few more.   

Tertiary,  I believe the markers  you seek are within view. Of course pictures can be deceiving.

This whole area looks very interesting to me. Agree with shorty lol... see what points to what.
But this one area looks interesting

For example, little rounded stacked rocks with the squarish one  in front seeming to have eyes..- that seems unusual. Could it be a turtle?  Out of place.  Straight lines there in the background seem out of place.

But most of all the figure outlined in a square. Does it remind you of anything?


Now as to whether it is holding a bunch of carrots or a torch..I'm just not sure. Maybe it is flowers, to go with the possible heart it is holding.Valentines is coming up after all

ps..that one arrowed area reminds of an open oyster with a pearl in it. Never seen anything like that before.

 The square area It is so neat looking if it is artificial and that "C" or ear  portion of it sure looks artificial to me

Do not share location would be my thought.

That does look like a hand holding a torch.Have tried to darken and clear the image up a bit. It's on a steep hillside with lots of trees,brush and rocks as obstructions.This picture was taken at long range and enlarged which I don't like to do. Sorry for the poor quality. It.s hard to get around up there and up close, none of the things we might see in the picture are visible. Jim

So sorry to intervene. But I don't know what you mean by 'placed'. Do you mean this rock is not supposed to be here? I mean, I how did it get there then? Is it a marker? How do know the difference in where a rock fell and where one was placed? Just asking.

Asking good questions is always a good way to learn.
When we say placed we mean it was not put there by the hand of nature but, by man.
Most of the signs in this thread were placed or moved into place by the hand of man.

When a rock falls it leaves tracks just like you do when you walk across a sandy patch of ground.
Sometimes even these rocks have been turned and used because of their location on a site to give direction.

feel free to ask anytime there is a question.

Jim,
I have recovered some from the weekend and have an in box full of stuff. LOL
Here is your picture with highlights that is well done.
The responder asked if I would post it as he wants to remain anonymous

and now for my version of the photo with scribbles for what they are worth.
Note, there is a royal poodle dead center.
a pile of hand stacked stones to the left
and an omega sign.
Great job catching things of interest guys.

The only time the Spanish used an abundance of signage in one location was to mislead,
and pull the hunter's attention away from the prize.

Great picture Jim.

Many thanks to you Old Dog and to the anonymous stranger. My brother was over a bit ago and pointed out the poodle. I had a hard time seeing it, but it finally came through.       Iv,e clearly got a long way to go but am having a lot of fun. Jim

It certainly is cheaper than a psychiatrist.
The point is to have fun.

Hey Old Dog,

 I took this pic 4 yrs ago, before i had any idea of signs or trail markers.  Hows this for a square beard.

 talking about having fun,i'll bet the poor sucker that carved that beard was REALLY havin' fun

I took this pic on my only visit to the south west.  If I memory serves me the bottom of the beard is around 50-75 feet up from the ground.  The top of that cliff is around 4000 ft up.  I found it when I played hooky from a trade show in vegas and went exploring in southern utah. 

Jay,
welcome to T-Net,
and thanks for the picture.
These ancient faces are whay were used by the "squarbeards" to mark the more commonly used trails.
I have found them in most of the accessable canyons on promentories or cliffs that end a canyon,
or where a canyon turns a corner.
Here are a few I have posted in this thread before
I call them the sentinels. The canyon where these are has one on every single promentory.

Hey Thom,

This one is in Zion national Park.  The trolley takes you right up to it.

Pretty magnificent if you ask me.

Thanks for the picture.
notice the square cut out, that is a sign they left in all sorts of sizes all over.
maybe a signature ... who knows
I think they are cool though, and where ever these things are,
you will find the Spanish following.
The Spanish left their signs in the lower part of the canyons.
The most prominent places were along the streams and small water courses that wind through the bottoms.

hello folks, I need help with this rock, some one  know whats means?,

WOW!!!
Judging by the size of that rock. someone went to a time and
trouble to leave a marker like that.

I will let you guys work on this one and give my interp retation a bit later,
Meanwhile this negative inversion should show what is on the panell in absolutes.

Thanks Ernie,
I'll give a hint as well.
It is an initial or alpha marker.
Yes it is Spanish, and it is a cache marker.
The A is directional.

I think, may be  the horse shoe, its a burial near, ans the 7 is a camsite

Vlady,

I was hoping there would be an attempt to read this.
For those who have been following My posts and some others ...
all the info is here.

First lets start with the cross, It is the largest and most prominent sign, and the A points to it.
It is a Latin cross on a church pedastal. This says that the cache involved may well be church articles.

The 7 says start early, so yes it is a camp here sign.
The 8 is designated twice.
Pretty sure they are using a Cordel as a measure.
There are three different types of Cordel
a Cordel menor which is 10 varas or 27.4 feet
a Cordel media which is 50 varas or 137.1 feet
a Cordel mayor which is 69 varas or 189 feet
Any of the above x 8.

The hole symbol (that thing that looks like handlebars) is open
It was not filled in. Although it may be covered with a large stone
and yes you will have to follow more signs.

Vlady,

Old Dog is right on the money with his interpitation follow in the direction of the top of the cross I would say.  Some very good treasure has been found close to a cross like this.

Minetres

..... The hole symbol (that thing that looks like handlebars) ...

It's a snake - a good sign.

OD,

If you dont mind me asking, what program are you using to achieve the negative from the photo? I have a few that I would like to "analyze" further...

Clay

I PMed you Buddy.

..... The hole symbol (that thing that looks like handlebars) ...

It's a snake - a good sign.

I agree that a snake is a good sign and very directional.
But when a snake is used in any form it has a head,
either on the sign or depicted as cut off separate from the sign next to it showing it as dead.

This one has neither that I can see.

The second depiction of 8 in the picture may be wrong.
There is a bar connecting each of the four bars, this could mean 10.
The more I think about it the more I believe I would try this first,
as it confirms my initial idea of 8 X 10

Hello old dog, lets see if I understand your interpretation, each vertical line means a vara, and the orizontal is multiple of 10, towards the left of the cross, because the longer the arm wing of the photo, which I do not understand is that they are multiples of 10. Why? 69 varas

8 VARAS x 10                
I will send a new picture
the rock is under the red point.

Vlady,
Please understand, I am giving you all the clues,
I am not there and cannot solve this for you.
If I did ... I would be robbing you of one of the greatest experiences you can experience.
Solving it yourself.Whether you find an empty hole or a treasure trove.
the experience is very important.

It appears to be a method of marking Cordels.
The cordel mayor is a rarely used measurement but I never leave it out.
You have seen tally marks such as four bars with a slash through them
the slash under them may mean the same thing.
4 with a slash is 5, x 2 = 10  or cordel menor



The signs are there, I noticed the cairn with the flat stone pointing at this marker. as well as others.
Use what is in these threads, this one as well as others. and your picture will come clear.
the more you follow these the better you will become at it.
There are more signs leading away and to the site location where this treasure was kept and still may be.

I must go get ready for work.

When one attempts to decipher number signs, does one used the standard english alphabet or the traditional spanish alphabet? For example, 8=G or 8=H. Thank you in advance....

Clay,
use the Spanish Alphabet.
But the trick is usually to find the number that corresponds to the letter.
not the other way around.
A=1
B=2
C=3
etc ...

When chasing KGC use the engish alphabet.

When dealing with letters such as A ... can also mean the beginning or alpha.
Hope this helps some
In another post where the A was present, one of the legs of the A was a pointer and told which sign to start with.

Thanks Clay.
Hope you can get it to work.

Old dog, thanks for your help, I'll get to work, hopefully have a good discovery, I'll call you if I had success with many thanks I will send you photos, I hope that either gold or silver coins or bars only have one more question which means KGC

The two mines on the ridge in the distance and the rock corral near the carving change things (photo, post 1454).  I would do some courthouse research to try to determine all you can pertaining to the mining claims that existed there (claim name(s), locators, dates, boundaries, corner descriptions, etc).  If you're diligent, you should be able to find this info in the Recorders Office (may have been a different county, depending on the date, than now).  If you're lucky, there may be some sort of a map.  If you're extremely lucky, it may be a patented claim and will have a mineral survey of the claim(s) with all improvements mapped.  Armed with all the documentation available, you'll be in a much better position to ponder this rock carving.

I gotta question that came to me today. It actually relates to the last photo post, and coincidently this one site I had been working. Here it goes.... How close would the Spanish store their gold to where they would mine it? Gold is heavy, so travel would be difficult in large amounts, especially over distance. But mining, as indicated above, is messy. So therefore visible over distance. If they store it close to where they get it, the just look to where they get it and you'll find where they store it. Analytically, it would seem there would be three different types of sites: the mine, the foundry and the vault. When in the bush, I try to be the bushman. This is what I came up with...

Clay

You are on the right track.  Rationality is a good thing.

Speaking of, I guess, has anyone ever seen a spanish site used as a foundry? That would be pretty cool as well, from an anthropological point of view anyhow. Everyday I get closer and closer to being in the "mind" of one of these crafty fellows. Hence, the better questions being asked... You guys are great. Miller time at my house when you can swing through.

Clay

Many posters claim they've found 'Spanish smelters'.  They haven't.  They've found old walls, stonework, charcoal roasters, camp cook sites, etc.  If you're lucky, the only 'Spanish' recovery structure you may find would be an arrastra (picture of one in ruins below).  And even the arrastras found in the Southwest are very rarely 'Spanish'.  These crude mills were used by Anglo and Mexican miners all the way into the 1930's.

I agree with Sprinfield.
very few arrastras will be found in original shape,
the miners that used them would dissassemble them to get what gold or silver worked into cracks and joints.
if they were smart enough to build one they were smart enough to know the properties of what they were after.

Old dog, thanks for your help, I'll get to work, hopefully have a good discovery, I'll call you if I had success with many thanks I will send you photos, I hope that either gold or silver coins or bars only have one more question which means KGC

Vlady,

The KGC was a secret society (similar to the Masons) that was exclusivly Southern Confederate States affiliation.
US Civil War era group. Supposedly they hid many treasures hoping to provide for another uprising.
Very contraversial.

I think if I'm feeling lucky, and I'm on track

good luck on your quest,
Buena suerte amigo.
Con Dios.

here are a couple more numbers. thanks brent

dsty
been looking for the program i use to use 2 puters ago, it worked with XP
it had an emboss feature
here are the files of a
embossed from  a scan of a pic
i think it could help with some of the scans/pics you have and others have
sorry its not yours the best i could do is #3

I apologise for not being part of the discussion.
My friend and close companion Tank passed away and ...
It is hard to deal with,
I will take a few days, when I get off work Sunday I will look in on the forum.
Till then guys.

Welp dsty..glad to know there is still some "interesting" markers for you.    Do you have any hair left?  hehe.

Here is the best I could do. Surely looks like a 4 1 8  and a possible A to me. The lower leg of the 4 may poke into another sign. The A may not have connected lines.  That little thing on top looks to be pointing to the left. The other stuff is hard to make out.

Here is a tinted version in case it helps.







Thom. Very sorry to hear that.  Old friends are missed indeed.
 

Tertiary.. I keep coming back to your pic and see more and more.
First off..it is normal  for things to disappear when you get up close. As someone here told me early on, they were made to be seen from a distance.

Here is how it looks like a possible bunny to me. Also, on the bunny nose..I think there may be something you are suppose to see closer up.. try it different angles and use contrast or negative to see it. Are you able to see it? If not..you will in time after your eye is trained.

The circles with the lines connecting items are something I've personally started to notice more and more. Repeating signs of the same sort.  I think that is normal for turtles and hearts...but...the blue circled ones seem similar to me. The one up front may be a face or a mine symbol.  The one in back looks like a U with a line through it  Pictures can be deceiving but both blue circled items give me the impression of  being the same in some way but not all ways.


I'm no expert though. But I wanted to stress to not get discouraged if when you get closer things dissapear   It takes a while to train the eye.

 To me this would be a very promising area. Pozo or mine or something right around there someplace, probably silver..  This is speculation only.

re foundries. Yes there is a doctoral  thesis out there that is somewhat  interesting...on foundry type activities at a spanish site.

Google is your friend.

Hi Desertmoons !  Thanks for the input. Shortly after posting this my brother came over. He looked at it for a minute and pointed out the Poodle. I find I can see it clearly if I step back five or so feet from the screen but up close its not there for me. If we dont get more snow and the ground will freeze good I'll try to get to it this weekend for better pictures. The low angle of the sun might be a problem and this might have to wait till spring . My biggest concern right now is finding the signs that should lead to that rock.  Having fun ! Jim

OD,
I lost a fishing buddy 2 weeks ago.  They asked me to do his funeral but I just couldn't.  I cried through the whole memorial service.
Your friend has added value to your life and will always leave fond memories.
okey dokey

Hey Thom hang in there buddy, sorry to hear about the passing of your ol friend.
                                                                                                                Ben

I could not see any sign, although I am new to the forum. I have walked in the field

Great monument Clay!

I know I wondered and still wonder many  times if something is natural or not. To me this rock has many many  things on it that confirm it is artificial. Here are a few. The rectangle areas I feel confident of. But remember it is speculation based on following trails only..never found anything.

Notice how the little stone upper leftish just does not seem right  or ..seems different?

As  Thom has often said..natural things in unnatural places.I will add, unusual aspects to a rock that seem out of place.


The other rectangle area to me looks like a man wearing head gear He is  is gazing down to the right to his  pet which may be avian,or perhaps a mammal or even a bag. It looks like an owl to me..right now. That may change.   Which is right next to him The headgear looks interesting , if it is head gear, as I've not seen any like that previously. It seems there is a nice little "o" there. In the middle.


The arrowed area is another possible winged figure or something else - not as sure what this is or if it is natural. There are other things too that I will not mention.

I mention all this for anybody getting into it. Over time and looking at a lot of rocks..your eye will start to discern what looks natural vs artificial. Additionally, you should start to see repeating shapes, forms and even marks! Well that's how it worked for me.  If you are not sure, look for those confirmation marks or ..rock placements.


Vlady.. I can't count the hours i spent looking at pics from here wondering what  people saw...in what looked like a rock to me. If you are a bit slow like me..it will takes months or even years to get adjusted lol


 



 

Keep looking Clay,
The desert will soon tell you a multitude of secrets.

Gret pics by the way.
Looks like you have found the trail in.

CLAY!!  HERE ARE SOME GUESSES ON MY PART,,  THE WHITE CIRCLE HAS A FACE IN IT WHICH IS LOOKING INTO AN OPENING ( SHADED ENTRY? ) OR INTO THE HELMUT IT IS WEARING,, WHICH MIGHT MEAN,, TO LOOK FOR A SHAPE LIKE IT BUT ON A BIGGER SCALE, IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE THE SHADED AREA OR LIKE  THE HELMUT! THE EAR PROTECTOR ON THE HELMUT, IS  POINTING DOWN TO THE RED CIRCLE AREA, THE HELMUT ALSO HAS SMALL SIGNS ON THE FOREHEAD AREA!! THE HELMUT IS IN THE YELLOW CIRCLE!
       THERE IS A FACE IN THE GREEN CIRCLE WITH ONE EYE LOOKING INTO THE MOUTH OF THE  THE WARRIOR WITH THE HELMUT,, THIS MAYBE SHOWS THAT ONE ENTRANCE IS UNDER THE HELMUT FORMATION!!  HOPE THIS MAKES SENSE!! HA!!   td