Basic signs and symbols you have found

BRENT!   My guess is,, it might mean,  Good Harvest  or Plenty for All,, or it might have arsenic on it and be the reason it has lasted so long! And too make you question, whether there maybe more arsenic inside!  td

The corn could mean "an abundance"

  so if you find something with arsenic on it, how do you learn that it Is there, without getting killed? next, how do you eliminate the arsenic if you find it? does it smell? is it odorless? can you see it? if there is someone on this thread that has a good working knowledge about it, would you mind explaining please? maybe  the information should be posted on all the forums so all hunters could have less worry and be prepared just in case. Thanks in advance.  === tenclaw===

On things like thatthere is an understood theory.
First of all this set is cool just the way it is.
I have no idea whether or not it is poisoned.
Knowing that it is very hard to reach I am pleased to not take a chance.
I have followed my creed and not moved the sign.
I've left it just the way we found it.

GUYS! I have looked on the internet for any type of chemical that reacts with arsenic that a person could maybe hand spray on different areas outside and inside, that would let one know a head of time, if there was any arsenic present! But to date have not identified one. From what I have learned, it will burn your arms and leave scars, as for harming you internally I am not sure what it attacks, other hunters recommend a mask and rubber gloves! I once saw a picture, with a drawing/outline on a rock which depicted a man who was sitting down next to a probable entry, and his arms and face were tinted black, apparently showing he had been arsenic poisoned! This to let hunters know, that it was Arsenic Trapped!  Slow and Methodical!!! td

Amen Tony,
If you suspect a poison trap ... (SUSPECT)
Do not Proceed without help, research, and a lot of protection.

Stay safe my friends, and remember that arsenic, just a little can become airborne easily.
It can be a very nasty way to go.

Back next week

Hey Brent...so easy to see so much in that bluff. I'm sure you have paid attention closely to all reddish light colored areas thqat may have been modified.

A few things stand out. The left and the right rectangled areas look pretty suspicious to me! The left one..well maybe a man pointing left.

The right one - looks like a ball in cave ) That ball definitely looks man made to me. The way that little area is shaped is different from any place else on the bluff.

Below that  - the arrowed formation looks like a head/face looking down.


The middle rectangle possibly a bird beak there up on top...again looking down. Put the bigger size in negative and the bird starts to stand out.


Base of bluff might be a good hiding place! Looks like a crevice around that arrowed area.

I found this little beauty yesterday, I was thrilled!!

  to old dog and tesoro dog, many thanks for information on the cyanide. awhile back, aarthrj posted something about someone getting sick after finding bars.--- t.d., can you post the picture you mentioned? might help a lot of folks.
 thanks,,=== tenclaw===

  seekesh, beautiful heart makes me jealous. i've never found one. read everything you can on this forum to learn which direction to go from the heart. thanks for posting

Hey, while reading a thread in Aztec Gold (Return of the Great Serpeant), I found a pic posted by Kanabite (out of Darrel's book) and have a question.
What do you make of these symbols?

(I am attempting to repost Kanabite's pic alongside one of my own from a site in SW Utah.)

I am a novice at posting so wish me luck.  You will, hopefully, see three pics;
1) the pic from Kanabite, 2, 3) pics from the aforementioned panel

The two symbols are directly next to each other on a substantial panel and they are in the most bottom right corner of the "map."

2 of 3

the "eye"

sorry about that pic size 

3 of 3

the "grid"

The only reason I haven't posted the entire "panel" is bad pics.  Below, a sketch of what I believe to be the main part of the panel and a broader pic of the rock formation itself.

Went back out. (all pics are within 1/2 mile of each other and within a few miles of Old Spanish Trail)

Pics 1 & 2 is an interesting Hoyo and maybe a turtle
Pics 3, 4 & 5 is another very interesting hoyo.
Pic 6 is a better pic of the panel.  (appears to me that it's a map over an older petroglyph panel )

shadow man lookn down. very cool new pictures.

Mannings  Very nice pics.  A few things I noted: Map 4- The top or forehead of this monument is a lions head,This may point out a trail or camp site in the distance. Why is the area washed out on the monuments side ? Just below and on the left of the washout is a profile looking right . In the foreground of the picture is a head with a pointer.  Jim

Map 6-On the left of the pic is a large head. Is it looking to the distance or instructing you to look through the small hoya ? There is a face above the hoya looking at a triangle. The rock on the left of the main hoya is a face and may be instructing you how to use the hoya. Why is there a standing stone towards the right side of the pic ? When getting pics through the hoyas, try focusing on the distant areas of interest and include the edges of the hoya for reference . Have fun! Jim

Map 6-On the left of the pic is a large head. Is it looking to the distance or instructing you to look through the small hoya ? There is a face above the hoya looking at a triangle. The rock on the left of the main hoya is a face and may be instructing you how to use the hoya. Why is there a standing stone towards the right side of the pic ? When getting pics through the hoyas, try focusing on the distant areas of interest and include the edges of the hoya for reference . Have fun! Jim

Thanks Jim.  Pic 8 is direction I BELIEVE you are to look through and you see what's in the distance in that pic.  I also believe the "stacked" stones on the inside left of the hoyo are not natural and provide the necessary "proof."

Thanks again!

Hi Mannings ,
hmmm,  i got your email . probably the easiest thing for everyone involved will just be if i let the author  answer that one in his own words . if you will send me a mailing address i will send you one of those books on CD . i have a few that i was given . it will have to be next weekend when i get back home.  they are a "pay it forward" kind of thing so there is no charge , but you will have to allow a little while for the post office to deliver it . i am also going to forward this portion of this topic to someone else who knows  allot more than I,  about another one of your pics .  i am kind of in a bad spot with not wishing to repeating someone else's  research.  so be mindful if you get a reply in the next little while , that might not be what you would expect  the norm for this Spanish topic on T net , then , well , ya ...... i will also be quiet about the location in your photos , not that you told me but ya , its pretty cool down there. just a guess, but  someone  may have been  after the silver..........

Brent,
When you go back to look at this come back and tell me if the branches that were removed were cut off or broken off.
If they were removed with an axe I would say it has possibilities.

Manning,
   I've marked up one of you photos.  Hope you don't mind.

Thanks Shortstack, had never noticed the "owl" as an owl, but rather saw them as add'l pointers.

Here is a better shot at what is here.
Note the owl on top with an owl reference on the bottom as well with the "W".
Be sure to CAREFULLY line the pointers up when you sight this in. anything off will send you into Egypt. LOL

So many pointers to line up perfectly!   

Also, would you guys assume I'm looking through the hoya in the right direction considering the other direction goes off into a vast expanse of desert without any discernible landmarks???

You haven't shown us a picture of the hoyo from the other side.
Here is the spot I would check from this side.

Looking through the "other side" of the hoyo.

You had it right the first time.
no pointers from this direction.

mannings!!  In your last pic,, there is a Hooded monk directly in front,, his left shoulder is facing us and he is looking down to our left! He seems to be saying,,, Look Down Here! What a great site they created for a guard post or just an overnight nook, to keep them out of the weather!!  I am having trouble saving any pics off the site, to mark them and post em!

   10claw!!!  I am still working on the arsenic poisoned dude! Waiting on permission to post it!!  Peace to All!!  td

do any cloud watchers see anything in this photo? thanks brent

No no no....It's this

Mike,
Ithink you are right in a small way about the pointer on top.
It is telling you to be here to look from the other side.

Don't you think

Mike,
Ithink you are right in a small way about the pointer on top.
It is telling you to be here to look from the other side.

Don't you think

Now that you mention it, yes.  I concur.  I definitely see the notch that created the shadow in the image of the other side.  I believe he needs a set of binos when looking through the other side.  Judging from how vast the background seems to be from the other side, I thinking zooming in to find what he needs is important.

EXACTLY.

Wouldn't THIS be the pointer saying "look from the other side"?

The first week I started this ,it became clear that the spanish had some pretty good optics. Jim

Jim,
You have to look close to even find some of them.
I posted one early on where the hoyo was only an inch tall and 2 inches wide.
The marker it separated out was in a field of stones that each could have been the pointer.
Very good optics.

Guessing they had at least 10x and very well ground, clear lenses . Probably much higher power.  Knowing what they were looking for must have been a big help . It seems to me that they must have signs telling the correct time and place to be, to see some important things . Hoping things will dry up soon so I can work on some ideas . Jim

something else interesting from the site

since i never knew diddly all i can do with this last pic is to wonder if that represents a square tunnel with a door to it? or did they even have square tunnels. i'll be glad when someone comes on and explains this.
                                                  tenclaw

The square hole has ears like an owl, left side of square rock may have profile of a monkey for royal. Just a thought. RH2

I am also curious as too what the square would mean....as I have found a square on several times punched through metal...Steve

Thats also a good question steve. You might have a kgc site like I'm working. Some of them mean a place or area. Like the crack to the left of monkeys chin might reprsent a narrowing canyon PLACE. Just another off the wall thought. RH2

the rock in the square did not get cut from that spot,looks like it came from somewhere else.pull it out see what is behind,squares usually mean a cache.another trail converted.

Thom's window with pointer, from page two of this thread.  


What are these marks?


My window with pointer.  The first one is of the back side.  The other stuff I found is in this post.








I am not sure what they are pointing to since there is rock in the background.  It could be totally natural.  Seems really fishy given all the other I found.

Could just be me but this is all i see.... ..I think the little rock was put there to not lose any placement with the heart to point at that blurr mound farther out in the pic....Just my 2 pennies though 

Looking through the "other side" of the hoyo.

Weird....lol

something else interesting from the site

Im reaching a little here....lol

In the Hoyo photo ...
the small heart indicates the pointer to work from on the other side of the Hoyo.


In the bottom photo ...
the square stone cut to fit the square hole indicates a covered shaft.

Yes, anything else is kinda reaching.
Good try though.

something else interesting from the site

Im reaching a little here....lol

Looks like Link from the Legend of Zelda.  Anyhoo, repeating signs again.  I love doing that.  Brent's is first and mine is second.  Both were found on vertical surfaces.

The square cut and rock fit into it is really interesting. The "plug" if you will, doesnt have the sunburn like the rest of the rock meaning it is either a different stone Or the same piece cut from the big stone just reversed and put back into the hole.  I would take  tons of pics of everything close to it, especially up close and around the cut, and then see if you could remove it.  There could be something on the other side of the plug, or under/behind it.  That would be my main area to check. 

that is just my opinion.  J

The square cut and rock fit into it is really interesting. The "plug" if you will, doesnt have the sunburn like the rest of the rock meaning it is either a different stone Or the same piece cut from the big stone just reversed and put back into the hole.  I would take  tons of pics of everything close to it, especially up close and around the cut, and then see if you could remove it.  There could be something on the other side of the plug, or under/behind it.  That would be my main area to check. 

that is just my opinion.  J

Just under the square cut plug, bottom right hand side, there appears to be a prop rock.  It is very small.  Behind the plug is a solid rock wall.  The whole mound appears to be exfoliating granite or concretion type rock.  I have never noticed exfoliating sandstone.  If it is solid rock, I doubt it goes anywhere much further than the rock wall seen inside the doorway but behind the plug.  It may just be a pocket space back there with some loot in it.

I see signs that say climb up the mound next to the plug and inspect the area from above.  I see an eye, a boot, a man climbing, a view hole, and square plug.  Left to right in that order.

thom, going back to post #195, is that death trap set up to protect something or is it simply to kill or injure the unsuspecting?
      thanks for your time.

Ok....how tall is the grass?  I rarely find desert grass taller than waist high.  Normally it is ankle high.  That would make the square plug about palm size, right?  Right?  Crickets.....hello?  Could the owner of this picture tell us how tall the grass is?  It looks like a death trap for a cricket.


UPDATE:  I hope everyone wasn't killed by death traps yesterday.  Crickets.....

 

Sorry, standing next to the "plug", the top is a little more than waist high.  It caught my attention because the hole looked purposely cut out, more than the look that the plug had been placed/returned???

Sorry, standing next to the "plug", the top is a little more than waist high.  It caught my attention because the hole looked purposely cut out, more than the look that the plug had been placed/returned???

You may find these with the plug removed when the Spanish came through.
These I find were left by the ancients and have something to do with what the Spanish were looking for.
I have pics of these that are 6 x 6 foot square. or bigger.
The Spanish NEVER left one plugged. (I don't know why) but if I were you,
I would take a hint.
Just to make me feel better though ... Please put the plug back when you find nothing behind it.

 

thom, going back to post #195, is that death trap set up to protect something or is it simply to kill or injure the unsuspecting?
      thanks for your time.

In the crack behind the stack of rocks, that is where the cache is.
It is back filled with small rocks and gravel.
We followed a three mile trail to this place. (one of the longer treasure trails I have found)
They usually only last about a mile and a half.

Sorry, I was so bored yesterday and the board moved so slowly I could hear my hair growing.  I sat in the office all day yesterday. Guess I was losing my mind ;)  They may be telling you to follow the trail up to find another type of stowage compartment somewhere else.

Here's  a few "looks like..."

General Question:

What is everyone's best guess as to a "typical" type of treasure room/vault/tunnel location?  Meaning, I would THINK that a critical point would be secrecy and the ultimate spot would need be such a place they could be assured no one was watching???

So, were they more likely to select canyons or

I realize, too, I could be waaay off on my general assumption.  

General Question:

What is everyone's best guess as to a "typical" type of treasure room/vault/tunnel location?  Meaning, I would THINK that a critical point would be secrecy and the ultimate spot would need be such a place they could be assured no one was watching???

So, were they more likely to select canyons or

I realize, too, I could be waaay off on my general assumption.  

Since I have not found any loot yet, I will give my opinion based upon myself having a bunch of loot to hide.  I would not think it would necessarily need to be in a secluded canyon or such.  500 years ago, who was watching.  Even 100 years ago.  Who was watching you take those pictures?  To me, it would have been in a place that no other people traveled, or didn't travel mch, (at that time).  Given the word currently extensive population, people are travelling EVERYWHERE. 

As I marked up in the picture earlier, my guess is that you need to follow the (apparent) signs to the left of the plug, for your more secluded location.  To me, the signs on the left are telling you that you are going to need to climb to find the next clue or the end of the trail.  I can't see anyone putting any loot in a hole next trail markers.  The markers don't even seem that complicated.  Either there is nothing behind that plug, the signs are false leads, or there is something to be found further down the trail. 

The sign that looks like an eye, to me, does not fit the same motiff as the boot and the silhouette.  Maybe I am just seeing things.  In any case, my opinion is to follow what is on the rock before you move the plug.  I can't see anything of consequence being behind there.

If this is in the same area where you showed the J.T. Morse writings, I know there have to be cliffs in your area.  I saw it on GE.  Maybe you are looking for a cave or entrance up on a cliff wall and it might be plugged with caliche or fill dirt.  Maybe the plug is part of the clue.  As I stated before, there appears to be no compartment behind the plug, it's only waist high, and would to too easy to loot someone's treasure from.

HH

General Question:

What is everyone's best guess as to a "typical" type of treasure room/vault/tunnel location?  Meaning, I would THINK that a critical point would be secrecy and the ultimate spot would need be such a place they could be assured no one was watching???

So, were they more likely to select canyons or

I realize, too, I could be waaay off on my general assumption.  

Since I have not found any loot yet, I will give my opinion based upon myself having a bunch of loot to hide.  I would not think it would necessarily need to be in a secluded canyon or such.  500 years ago, who was watching.  Even 100 years ago.  Who was watching you take those pictures?  To me, it would have been in a place that no other people traveled, or didn't travel mch, (at that time).  Given the word currently extensive population, people are travelling EVERYWHERE. 

As I marked up in the picture earlier, my guess is that you need to follow the (apparent) signs to the left of the plug, for your more secluded location.  To me, the signs on the left are telling you that you are going to need to climb to find the next clue or the end of the trail.  I can't see anyone putting any loot in a hole next trail markers.  The markers don't even seem that complicated.  Either there is nothing behind that plug, the signs are false leads, or there is something to be found further down the trail. 

The sign that looks like an eye, to me, does not fit the same motiff as the boot and the silhouette.  Maybe I am just seeing things.  In any case, my opinion is to follow what is on the rock before you move the plug.  I can't see anything of consequence being behind there.

If this is in the same area where you showed the J.T. Morse writings, I know there have to be cliffs in your area.  I saw it on GE.  Maybe you are looking for a cave or entrance up on a cliff wall and it might be plugged with caliche or fill dirt.  Maybe the plug is part of the clue.  As I stated before, there appears to be no compartment behind the plug, it's only waist high, and would to too easy to loot someone's treasure from.

HH

Blind,

Thanks for the response!  I am actually not referring at all to the plug as it is not in the "Top 20" interesting things in the immediate area.  The area has cliffs, washes, rivers (small) and many canyons.  I was only hoping they would want to find a secluded spot to stash, as it greatly reduces the searching area.
All pics are in the same area (1/2 mile). 

To answer your question as to "who was watching?"  Indians.  Most everywhere in the U.S. had indians that "knew" who was around and what they were up to.  This area is no different.  My dad once told me the indians didn't care and would never dig up the treasure.  With all due respect to me dad (and realize I could be wrong), I staunchly disagree.  Number 1, the indians WOULD care what was going on in their lands and NUMBER 2, the Spanish (or whoever) would not assume they wouldn't care.

Thanks again!

M

That is a good assumption on your part mannings.
I can never argue with that idea.
When the Spanish came through this country the indians made friends, they worked together and the natives learned the signs and symbols.
(Then the indians got pissed for several reasons and drove them out.)
Many of the caches were moved and rehidden mines were covered and signs were destroyed. Much remains to be found.

In my opinion, more of a guess, the so called plug is also an eye catcher. I would take plenty of pictures at a different angle and at different times of day to see which shadows that might develop around the plug seeing that the rock is not a tight fit. Also I would check out the rocks and pile of dirt to the site of the plug. Also see how the rocks are laid out. If you remove the plug check out the rock it is sitting on. Also what you are looking for might not go back in the solid rock but might go down. Check for rock maps that might be burred there. Make sure you mark North and South on the rocks before you remove them. Take plenty of pictures so you can put it back the same way. Good Luck!

spanish or wishful thinking?

Brent,
The depth of the hole x the width of the hole in cm.
in the direction of the notch or chiseled line.

Hi!
I hope you guys have an idea to this pictures.  what do you think? thanks

Hi!
I hope you guys have an idea to this pictures.  what do you think? thanks

Your sign is definitly chiseled and detailed. It wraps around the stone to the lower right from the upper left, and across the face with details I can't make out. Do you have pictures of this from other angles that show more of the stone?

Negro:
   That stone in the background of you photo (at the top) looks like it may have
 some kind of corresponding mark on it.  It looks to be a duplicate of the lower
 right curved marking on the front stone. 

Negro,
if it were me I would be looking in the direction to the right to see if there was any other rocks or symbols.
ts4

Another angle on the subject of the square rock plugged hole.  Could it have been simply a cache site for EQUIPMENT or dried food?  I mean, it isn't designed to be "invisible".  Maybe it was designed to keep wild animals away from a food pack (jerky) or extra equipment such as pouches of flints and steel, shovel heads, pick heads, etc.

Here is one of the ones that I have found with the plug removed.
A solid wall behind it.
At the 3:00 position and 9:00 position are a pair of owls.
But no other marks to speak of.

suppose that could have been the spanish mail box system in case there was a need of some kind?.

I personally don't think Square markers of this sort are Spanish.
The owls however may be, These are in an area that runs parallel to a very distinctly marked Spanish trail.

Thom,
I see the Owl at 9.  Peg 'A' seems like it could have come from slot 'B'.  However, the distance from 'A' to 'B', plus the nearly level appearance, makes me think that it was pulled out and layed to rest in a meaningful direction.  Could the 'plug' have been a set of instructions that would have be used once reaching the location indicated by the pointer stone?

Mike,
The "plug" is missing all together.
There seem to be a multitude of these square markers of varying sizes up and down this canyon.
Some are marked as well by the Spanish, Others have the plugs pulled and stand as empty as this one.

One of the resons I potographed this one is because of the specialty signs included, and their positioning.
There are puzzles of all kinds in these trails.
Welcome to one of mine.
LOL

A friend sent me these 3d pics.  DM should go crazy with them.
I'm interested in knowing what the shelter on the stream bank came from.
http://www.utah3d.net/SulpherCreek_swf.html
http://www.utah3d.net/DoubleArch1_swf.html

okey dokey

That's freakin' awesome! 

thanks okey dokey

Just thought this bit of beauty was interesting.  Strange notch in the mountain side, ja?  Found it just up the road from the triangle rock arrangement from a different post.

Mike,
They sure do stand out when they want them to.
Great photo!
Thanks amigo.

I thought you might enjoy that, Thom.  Truth be known?  I never noticed that until just before I uploaded it.  I was going through a jump drive to see if I had any pics to salvage.  Not having had a clue at the time about anything sign related, as with the triangle rocks, I just captured the moment and moved on.  Yes, they certainly do stand out!  OH, the things I now know I have missed!

Heheh okey...i will say this..you sure know how to make a girl happy.

Those are gorgeous! So lovely!

That shelter..if it is man made...is interesting. Not really big enough to sleep in or is it? Well blackened ..i wonder if water or smudgy fire did that.

There seem to be a campground across from it on the "island"

The boulders in it seem purposely placed...maybe.  There seems to be at least one suspiciously squarish like carving. Then that hole lower right.

The water level could have been  a lot higher back then.

My first thought would be...trail marker of some sort and important because of campground there. I can not think of any manufacturing process that would require a shelter like that! I mean the flow of water does not seem like it would cross the shelter interior.

I wonder if you are suppose to stand on it for some reason.

Awesome pics!

DM,
Glad you liked them.  When I saw them I just thought of you for some reason. (:>)

spanish or wishful thinking?

Native American  mano and matate were then used to grind the corn. A matate (or metate) is the  large stone on which the grain is placed. A mano is a smaller stone tool (or rock) used to grind corn or other grains. It is rolled over the matate to break down the grains into a powder.Dried corn kernels were placed on the matate, a large stone.  After years of use, the matate developed a groove, allowing archeologists to determine roughly how often the tool had been used.

Hammer,
The hole is a drill hole he has several associated with this site that are the same size.

A fellow employee heard me talking about animal shaped rock and said he knew where there was a frog about 12 miles away.  During lunch I grabed my camera and 26 miles later took pics of this frog.  It looked so much like a frog the locals painted it.  It is within view of a major river and is looking parallel to the river at the edge of a road.   A car had hit it and reconstruction was done on the eyes.  Looks like an "x" on the side.  What say ye?
okey dokey

That sure is a good frog Larry,
Wonder what it looked like before it got hit by a car and painted by the locals. LOL

You pretty much have a handle on why they would use a frog.
I do know of one on a semi dry mountain top but it is still within a quarter of a mile of a creek.

well Old Dog it was truly an honor and a grand pleasure to have a cuppa with ya and finally get to hug ya a time or ten!  lol  As promised, I will get caught back up on the thread now that CTH 3 has wound down and get back in student mode!  I will also go check the other link too!   Love ya buddy!   ~hugs~

well Old Dog it was truly an honor and a grand pleasure to have a cuppa with ya and finally get to hug ya a time or ten!  lol  As promised, I will get caught back up on the thread now that CTH 3 has wound down and get back in student mode!  I will also go check the other link too!   Love ya buddy!   ~hugs~

It was very nice to see not only you, But Brian and Danni as well.
I really enjoyed Danni, she will grow into a true beauty.

The honor was truly mine.

Mike.

Were you ever able to get back to this cut in this mountain?
I would be interested in seeing the next and the last signs as seen from here.
they should be readily viewable unless they have been removed by erstwhile hunters looking to tear down history.

No, I haven't been able to get back.  Thought I might make it this summer.  It's 500+ from the house.  I haven't found an excuse to head back that way.  This is just a couple of miles up the road from the triangle markers I posted.  I would love to get back and get the high resolution image.

Folks have been asking me the same thing,
"How come you're not out?"
I've been telling them "life"

That is what usually happens when I make plans

Life.

I thought you said "wife".  That's what usually happens when I make them.

LOL nope ,I've got a wonderful wife .
When things are covered My time is mine.
Just have some issues sometimes getting everything covered.
This week it's a water heater. LOL 800.00
Sell a colt, make some bucks.
Just the way we have to do things ...either that or get used to cold showers.

doesn't look like anyone is brave enough to touch that cold showers reference even though they know it is about the water heater.  lol  Okay...done with what I can do tonight....lots of info....will see what I can do with it in the morning.  Tis very late and I need to open the office in about 6 hrs....actually Brian said he would open it....if I can manage it, I might sleep in for a lil bit.  Not likely....as you might have seen on facebook...got some crazies running around shooting at my former coworkers out on the reservation.  www.kwso.com and www.ktvz.com have the latest updates and not much for a bit now.

Managed to get the water heater done last night.
Getting the old one out and making sure the gas lines were sound was the big thing.
The new tank heats water like ganbusters. WOW

Hi I'm getting into the apartment where the yellow arrow signs show a foot in the direction of four feet to the ground research. Get all one's heart

Hi I'm getting into the apartment where the yellow arrow signs show a foot in the direction of four feet to the ground research. Get all one's heart

I noticed that you used the number 4 this time.  Are you using an English translator? 

 BABACAN,
The signs chiseled here are all on the face of the stone.
The holes on top are all natural ... just holes.

We would be interested in seeing some signs from where you are.
Do you have Spanish incursion there?

something else interesting from the site

In this picture I was just noticing the absence of lichen on some of the exposed rocks. From my recent geological experience lichens can be used for the dating of materials. In this case, the colonization of lichen on the displaced (squared off boulder front and left center) seem to indicate something, but what?

Have you explored the area around the square cut?

~Seeker~

I know, i'm new at this but I love problem solving and innovative ideas.

This is the pic in reference to the previous post.