Basic signs and symbols you have found

Rigmover.

Every thing I see in the pictures leading up to your Hoyo,
convince me that my original assessment of your hoyo photo is correct.

yeah, im pretty sure were gonna go two box that area pertty soon, a regular detector would be pretty useless as this location seems to have been a popular teenage party spot for many decades, according to the trash and debris strewn about.  but, thats ok cause what im interested in should be much deeper than that.

If you post a BIG smiley face on this thread...
Nothing more need be said.

Best of luck my friend.

Thom

If you post a BIG smiley face on this thread...
Nothing more need be said.

Best of luck my friend.

Thom

Acknowledged

 

 

If you post a BIG smiley face on this thread...
Nothing more need be said.

Best of luck my friend.

Thom

Just dissapear will All we will need to know..lol  WTG

Just went through all this.......

Just went through all this.......

Hope something in here helps you.
Lots of good stuff compiled in here.

This was found on a 2 mile long 50 to 100 foot bluff.  There is a river behind you.  Any interpretations?


okey dokey

Okey,
Thanks for posting your signs,
This format looks like a mixture of standard and topographical
signs, (site specific), while I am not 100% , the following is a good
stab at what I think they were trying to tell you...
 
The O with the line thru it, is changed from the original letter to mean Omega,
the slanted line, much like the A - is part of the clue, it is pointing down to the
left. The Delta symbol or Triangle is the final geomentry, the Mesa sign is composed
of a C and is lying on its face, could be the 'travel on' sign and it also could be a
double use sign, giving the distace of the roman numeral. The curved line is terrain
I think, and you follow this down slope, (possiblly in the direction of the line thru the O)
until you come to the 'dot' this dot marks the spot to find the Omega rock monument
itself. Here this Rock Monument will tell you Distance and Direction, the last mark is the
mark of 'buried under' could mean cave or other burial spot.

The letter under the marks
are the key to the site. These will be pmed to members in good standing, just send me
 a pm for a relpy (KBR) in the subject line.
rangler

'M7.6'

I am in agreeance on this.
Nice solve Rangler.

Thanks,
Thom

Rangler,
Thanks for the translation.  It fits the site well.

Okey dokey

Am at work and will be for a while.
Would spend mor time on these things but time demands  me to stick with a program.
Sorry guys, right now I can only bootleg a couple minutes at a time.

Old Dog, your expertise is missed.  Appreciate the help you have given.

Rangler, if we follow the bluff I see this from a distance.  Did not bring my binoculars so wasn't sure of the possible s/s.  In the oval looks like a "5".  The other marks look like a backwards "Z".  Any suggestions?

okey dokey

Oopps, forgot the pics.
Here tis.

Okey dokey

why post a picture that is that blurrrrrry if you are wanting info???

Hadji,
Because it is all I have.  That is why I added the lines.
Maybe someone has seen those same marks and can explain them.

okey dokey

i see something similar, but dosnt make any sense to me

heres somthing i found last week, kinda interesting, having a little trouble figuring out the last one!

Jason
Its a double X,(xxx Xxxxx Xxxxx !) but i think you guessed that all ready
but it has a xxxxxxx in the middle, made by the XX's, that xxxxxxx means '' xx xx" or 'xxxx xxxx'
so " xx xx xxxxx, xxxxx, xxxxxxx, xxxxxx, xxxx, xxxxxxx
etc, most likely in the xxxxxxxxx of the xxxxx xxxx to the
xxxxx xxxxx~!
rangler
Available in the clear to members in good standing with Rigmovers X's in the subject
line of the pm!

re:post 922
Okey and Rigmover
The waning moon signs stands for xxx xxxx and xxxxxx
the line to the figure 8, means follow to: the xxxxx, the
heart means the treasure itself, on the bottom
the upside down V means "xxxxxxx" and xxxxxx and the squiggly
loop means, "xxxxxx"
rangler
Available in the clear to members in good standing (migs)
with "heart 8" in the subject line.

okey,,,

 

 


There is possibily a LOT going on in this picture. When you get better pic you will know

To me it looks like you have figures pecked or carved out.. the light lines would be that.

Then possibly some symbols or writing within the figures or as part of the figures or completely separate.


I definitely see at least one pair of eyes if not more.

Below looks like a turtle head with a possible X in it..or an x like symbol with  meaningful  curved end points to the ends of the x. or perhaps that is lettering down below  the turtle. The lighter part below the turtle sometimes looks like  heart but very hard to tell.

The upper one..well definitely white eye catchers...on  curvy line, encompassed in an animal head with snout pointing to the right.


Maybe  big rectangle  or diamond shape above that line of white stone. Well hard to tell.  The cloif looks like  a lot of things..but it does look like there might be lettering there.


Well..very interesting!

Anyway..i am no expert. But if i only had the photos to work off of..i guess i would check out the  top of the bluff to the  near right of these carvings. Or anyway.... go right...whether up  on top..or further along the bluff face.
I have no special knowledge though.

Heh, rigmover...reminds of something i found but am too embarrassed to post it. Cause i think I been out in the rocks too long and likely my imagination. . Your carving sometimes look likes two x's and other times... 2 v's  one upside down.


I wonder if that "omega" symbol  down  lower right in the over hang is natural or not. Did you notice that?


The "E" ? if it is an E   has me puzzuled..seems so indefinite  compared to the x's

The two Xs together as XX is the roman number for 20. or 20%.
represents the royal quint or the King's 5th.

Short post before I go back to work.

Thanks Okey Dokey,
I'll do what I can and get back as soon as Possible.
Will have some slack time tomorrow afternoon.
Then the Grandkids will use up my weekend ....
But what a way to go.

I want to say thanks to DM, OD, and Rangler for thier input.
On a side note, I was following this pointer rock and ran into a big slab of rock laying on another big slab of rock.  Underneath was an ammo box that turned out to be a geocache site.  I immediately called a friend of mine who is into this sort of thing and hehawed him about stumbling onto something he had been searching for. (:>)
Okey dokey

I'll bet that was a hoot.
He should stick with you when he is geocaching.
Especially when it comes to following the signs.

Way to go Buddy,
show em how it's done.

Eagle and myself did manage to get out for a while last weekend,
it was a great time, and a nice long walk.
I did manage to get a picture of a very nice owl.
It is a combination sign that only lasts a few minutes.
Granted I was a minute or so late in getting the picture,
the shadow was moving away from the head.
But I caught enough that you can see it is an owl.
one of the best I have seen.

That is a nice pic.  Way to go.  Doesn't get any better than that.
okey dokey

so big! nice shot.

so big! nice shot.

Thanks guys,
I was kind of surprised myself,
we have both driven past this guy and have never seen it before.

But at the right time of day it jumps out and grabs you.

The real comical part is when we both saw it and the brakes were applied,
Here I am standing just outside the truck and traffic is comming and I just need to take a couple more shots of this...
Everybody waited for me though,
Sure am glad. The darn thing would have been gone for another day if they haddn't.

This gorgeous red rock canyon we are in here has a mega presence of Spanish signs.
They send you from side to side of the canyon as demonstrated by the sight through this hoyo.
the laugh is getting your exercise going from one to the next,
as there is another canyon in the center of this one,
made entirely of Blackrock (granite) that has been polished by eons of rushing water.
Very slick and very dangerous. Makes chasing these signs just a little more fun.
Makes the partner think we have to be nuts.

I left this sit all day hoping someone would notice something more than just the scenery.
The bottom trail (we followed for a while)
is a clearly marked one. The classic face looking in the direction of travel.
Here is a seriously chiseled face pointing the way to the next campsite .

Yes i saw that 1 as well as 2 others.
 the smaller of the two I call Batman.

also looks like 2 turtles facing you in the creek.

There is ancient stuff as well in there,
But so far I have only found one turtle in these canyons that could actually be confirmed as a turtle.

The ancient things are absolutely huge in comparrison to what the Spanish left.
here is one of the sentinel type monuments that stand at the abutments of the canyon walls.
they are at every prominent turn or canyon entrance.

We can subscribe to the million monkey theory about this stuff or we can look logically at what is here.
nature could have done one or two of these...
But what are the odds of as many as a couple hundred all done in the same style and the same fashion?
I am inclined to believe that human intervention isn't out of the question.

Well Thom

I see a lot more.Whether it is artificial  is the question. I can not help but think fondly of jacko..bless his  soul.

What a lovely spot..no doubt that pool was often full at the time., Now perhaps mostly filled with sediment of the centuries.



 


The monuments... who knows....but i am leaning toward your conclusion! I recently read a  paper on mta dna halotypes that indicated there were two major migrations into the americas. One somewhere 30,000 -35000 years ago and the other the more well known 11,000-15000 years ago.

If something earlier than that..well  populations do get wiped out now and then.

 I can not help but think fondly of jacko..bless his  soul.

His Vivid imagination & gusto for the Hunt is truly missed here..

There will always be room for an old friend on this thread.
Places like this make me think about the guys who taught me.
Glen S, and Curtis, and Jacco.
Missing Yes

Absent... I think not.

Hi Folk

Anybody can help me what does mean this icon found inside a cave?

It appears to be a 72.

I know that doesn't help much,
but there is no indicator nearby to say whether it is a date frome some highschool party or something else.

Best to take as many pictures as possible as clearly as possible and see what else is there.

What a lovely spot..no doubt that pool was often full at the time., Now perhaps mostly filled with sediment of the centuries.

Kim,
Believe it or not, Mother Nature cleans her house every Spring.
The melt off and high water clean these pools out.
they are polished out of the granite and are very smooth... fast water cleans them up fast.
nothing more than cold water and a handful of gravel in the bottom.
The upper surfaces of the granite are smooth and slick as well so if you don't want to get wet

stay away from the edge some of these pools are as deep as 3 to 4 feet.

OD
You said, "The ancient things are absolutely huge in comparrison to what the Spanish left."  A light bulb just went off concerning the one-eyed man. Thanks again.  Only trouble is, now I have another variable/possibility to factor in.

okey dokey

 okey dokey ,

The ancient things I was referring to in my post
are the ones evident in the canyon we are working in.

The most evident ones we have found elsewhere have been mostly Verry large,
but in some cases they are smaller on the same scale as Spanish stuff,
and have been in most of those cases hard to discern from the Spanish.

Our thought on the matter is that the Spanish seem to be following these ancient markers.
Where we find a couple we also find some that have Spanish reworking.
In almost every case.
 

Old Dog
Earlier in my understanding of the ancient monuments, I had thought that they
were part of the Jesuits work, and that they were built large and bodacious because
they wanted the Kings Men to find the caches and mines with a doubt or failure,
And that later the relationship lapsed to the point that the Jesuits scaled down
the monuments, for one, they were getting better at building them and two, they
could say that they were following the letter of the law, although not the spirit of
the law./
However since the research on the Templars showed them to have the standby's
of the detective principles. ie, "motive, opportunity and means" with or without
artifacts,names or smoking guns, we can safely think the Templars were the
Ancients Ones!
This makes sense from a couple of angles. King Solomon was the first codemaker
and the Templars were after their dig at the Temple, his followers. With Ophir being
in the USA and perhaps it was codewords for whatever place that gold was found
for extracting and shipping to him.
Add to that the Pope himself, sanctioned the Templar for a while, used them for
whatever his own purpose was, then after the Templars where discredited, the Pope
sanctions the second wave of prospectors and miners in the Jesuits, who merely
had the task of cold trailing the Templars and decoding the Solomon Code!
This explains the difference of the style of monument building AND the reworking
of some monuments by the Spanish/Jesuits.

I may not be 100% correct but - my solution does offer 100% of the answers to the
questions, until someone asks better questions,
I rest my case
rangler

I will go so far as to repeat what I have said elsewhere,
I believe these signs are as old as 3 to 4 thousand years.
If there is any Templar involvement I have yet to find evidence of this.
But there is a Spanish influence that is undeniable,
It is manifest especially where these particular types of ancient signs are prevalent.

My partner is frustrated with me about things like this,
I feel, I am dealing with things in stone. Period.
If there is evidence of the Templar's in stone, I will believe it when I see it.
Not before.
But I said that about the Phoenicians too.

LOL

Well here is something unique (in own experience only one i've found) but likely a basic symbol.

Now sure what to make of it really. I guess that may be a duck I suppose... but.....whats the purpose of the arrow. I have some suspicions......

All I can say is. . . .WoW!

The knowledge you all have displayed here has kept me up all night reading. I truly wish that I could see allll the posts, not just the ones shown. The ones that I really wish I could see are DSTY's and Bob's, as the good explanations for the now-missing pictures just killed me!

This is just truly an amazing thread, and I plan on following it from here on out. OD, thank you so very much for starting this thread, and maintaining it with new info for so long!

I do have a little information I could throw in for JudyH a few pages back. As a life-long Ozarks born and raised boy, I have learned several Spanish stories from my Grandfather and others. The ones I know are not the ones in the treasure books either. There was much Spanish activity in our limestone filled country, and a lot of that information can be read in books yet today.

My Grandfather explored a cave in the early 1960's on Table Rock Lake, just a fledgling lake then, and I will relate his harrowing ordeal as best my memory will allow. The cave itself most likely is a death trap, but hundreds of years made it worse. The entrance was on the flat top of a bluff, and went straight down for about 8 or 10 feet to a platform. When my grandfather and his caving buddy got to the platform, they realized it wasn't a shelf and was actually flat sided logs that were placed in notches in the wall to make a false, or not, floor. From there, it was a clay bank down 15-20 foot to the next platform. Here's where the bad part came into play, they both went down to the next platform, with nothing but the rope back up to the 1st. They explored slightly, but dead ending in a watery shaft leading deeper. They then started the part that scared both of them out of caving for awhile. Getting back to the rope, they attempted to climb up the clay embankment. The clay, being wet, yielded nothing but slippery resistance to them, and it was nothing but pointless exertion for over an hour. Eventually, one of them was able to crawl back up to the platform slowly, and pull the other up.

As far as knowing the cave was Spanish, my Grandfather had seen some of the same signs in treasure magazines of the times in the walls of the cave. He combined this with the fact that the log platform had developed over a 1/4 inch of stone from the dirt caking and hardening, did some research and found that cave stone was estimated to "grow" at around a 1/16th of an inch over 100 years, estimating an age of 400 years prior to his being there.

The thing he thought of later, though, was that the cave was completely designed to funnel water down in, but what about the initial platform? All the things you all have posted have made me ask the same question, was the first platform disguising the entrance with a covered wall?

Unfortunately, we will most likely never know. His climbing partner thought it would be a funny joke to buy some gold flakes, litter it in the clay, and lead a few businessmen infrom St. Louis. They quickly grabbed up the land, concealed the entrance, and kept the place guarded.


So after my big long story, I'd just like to say thanks again for all the realizations you have dawned upon me, and so many things I have seen and overlooked while living at home, and now I am not at home with no idea when or if I'll be able to return.

Until then I will sit here soaking up as much of this history as I possibly can, with the hope that I too will be able to apply some of this knowledge!

I give this thread 

JR,

Thanks for those kind words.
And welcome to marks and signs.
If you have questions feel free to ask, I can't always guarantee you will like the answers. LOL
but they will be honestly answered.

Sounds to me as if your Grandfather learned a very hard lesson.
Whether Spanish or other, the caves that populate our country have a treacherous reputation.
I do wish your Grandfather could have done a bit more exploring and documentation of that cave.
But I am glad it ended well for him and his partner.
It almost sounds like there was a water trap involved somehow.
That would be fun to document even today.
I have only heard of a very few of these and information on them is precious.
Thanks for sharing your Pop's story and hopefully you will be able to add a good one of your own to it someday.

Thom

Hi Kim,
This one makes me ask a couple questions...

Does the small stone rest against or touch the larger one??

What else is close to these as you take the picture??
Look behind you as you are standing in this position to take this picture.
What do you see? you may have passed something that is intended to send you in the opposite direction.
that may be why you are questioning these signs.

My first question is asked because,
these two stones seem to be making a small hoyo that if looked through will send you in the direction you are coming from.
This is the best info I can glean from this signage.

Thanks Thom

I will definitely try that. I had not considered it might be the empty space that was the clue.

Kim

Kim,
It may just be me but to the right of the hoyo looks like a diamond shaped rock with eyes looking at the hoyo.
okey dokey

OD,
Again I am seeing what you see.  It seems that at my Omega rock (ancient) there are Spanish markers.  I am thinking that the Spanish followed or came upon the ancient signs and since they are more simple and larger they recovered the cache.  Then maybe relocated it and left Spanish markers to the new location.  The ancient ones were the only ones around and so used simple, straight forward, and obvious signs.  The Spanish may not have had the means to add the new cache to their mule train or rafts and so relocated them using more devious and obscure markers.  They didn't trust that someone else would not be in the area.  What do you think?

okey dokey

Kim,
Unless the next sign is very close ( and it may be)
concidder looking through that sight hole and see what pops up looking the other way.
The trails weren't meant to be hard to follow,
they were meant to be confusing to an untrained eye.
Yours is training very well. don't doubt yourself.
If anything doubt me as I am not there.

OD,
Again I am seeing what you see.  It seems that at my Omega rock (ancient) there are Spanish markers.  I am thinking that the Spanish followed or came upon the ancient signs and since they are more simple and larger they recovered the cache.  Then maybe relocated it and left Spanish markers to the new location.  The ancient ones were the only ones around and so used simple, straight forward, and obvious signs.  The Spanish may not have had the means to add the new cache to their mule train or rafts and so relocated them using more devious and obscure markers.  They didn't trust that someone else would not be in the area.  What do you think?

okey dokey

You have discovered the secret!
You are thinking like a three hundred year old Spaniard !!
If you keep it up you will find it if it is still there.

desertMoons!!      At the left end of the long top stone,, there looks to be a sign carved there!! Plus the end looks to be a combo,, Owl Face and Heart!!  Just a guess,, Luck to you Lady!!   td        Hey Dog!!

Well thank you!

Okey i am sure that rock is meaningful.. just  exactly so  is  to be discovered and one of the delights of   following trails. .


Tesora..good eyes! I did not mention any possible carvings or tinies of any sort because they usually seem so indefinite to me compared to the clear ones that have been posted.  But i had noticed the one on the left. The combo though..wow you do have good eyes.


With a neg..i can see the tiny face pretty clear.

 

Over on the other side..that  rock okey pointed out..well there may or may not be carving on it. But  on the rock below it I see a possible circle where the horizontal cleft ends.  I do not know if real or not. I run into a lot of those maybe maybe not type things.  I've found a few carvings of various sorts that are a lot more definite though..but just a few.

 

Thom.. read over your thoughts and will  look around when i get out that way again.  Generally i thought this particular area was more ... trails in and out ..sort of on the edge of things...but who knows. There are so many ways to look at this and it does not help when the line between natural and artificial is so blurred..so very often.  But that makes it fun...lol.

Dsty... there is a story behind your earlier post i am sure...lol It made me laugh! Hope it all turned out okay and you are calmed down.

Hi DM.  Great pics.  There's lots here that irk me somehow but I don't in what ways.

Red arrow could be a hoyo looking in either direction.  Looks like a good height to kneel down and peer through.  The way you facing it "seems" to be pointing up to those rocks on the bluff.  In your close up pic the hoyo also looks like a mushroom (upside down)

Green circles interst me and/or caught my eye. 

Blue circles are the obvious areas of interest.

Sorry, I've never marked up a photo so much before.  I'm not sure what I'm seeing if anything.  Hopefully the others can add more and you can too when you go back.  Good luck !

Trout.

[o otko oln etsil tnod ts ujs gnis drib ehtn ehw]

Desert Moons,
While I can't be 100% on this, since I only have a few pics
that you posted at an unknown time of day, ,....
You do have what appears to be an Omega Monument!


Good Luck Kim, I know you have 'doggedly' pursued
this hobby and have learned much, as is evidence by
the pics you post, I think you have two sites worth
working, the first one is the site with the Owl Hoyo
you posted earlier,,an Alpha..and this one an Omega
//explanation in pm//
I have no idea how far these two are away from each
other, but if they are in close proximity then you may
have a full set of Monuments. If not then you may want
to reverse engineer the trail and find the Alpha to
confirm the whole dang thing!!

Great going, good luck, look for the little xxxxxx now
he will tell you the final stage.
auriferiously
rangler
o otko oln etsil  tnod ts ujs gnis drib ehtn ehw

With all the study lately on Omega markers,
Rather than go back each time and hunt for some of them in the beginning of the thread.
I grabbed a couple and drug them to this post.
There are many throughout the thread but these are ones that I have found and I am sure of.
These are on sights that DW and myself have explored together and have documented.

Looking at these you will find a variety of things to look for when determining an omega.

DM!!   Keep in mind that they say,, Entries would be situated on hillsides,, reason,,  for the Trap to work at it's maximum!!! Look and take pics of the hill in the backround,, BUT!!! Lets be Carefull out there!!    td

hey guys. just found this thread, and have really enjoyed it.

saw that someone posted a pic of grandfather mtn, which is in western nc, back in dec 08 (on page 7 of this thread, about halfway down), and it was dismissed as a photoshop job. i didn't see that anyone stepped up to verify the photo, so i will. hope i'm not so late on this one as to be rude. don't mean to get the classroom off topic. dwayne

Argonauts and True Treasure Hunters
A quick tidbit on Alphas and Omegas, is that when photographed from
different sides, it will look like four completely different rocks!! Try it!
rangler

ps Hey Duane,
Thanks for posting that info, the truth is like  a nugget, and we always
have time to stop and pick up a nugget! Come back ya hear?

Eagle and myself did manage to get out for a while last weekend,
it was a great time, and a nice long walk.
I did manage to get a picture of a very nice owl.
It is a combination sign that only lasts a few minutes.
Granted I was a minute or so late in getting the picture,
the shadow was moving away from the head.
But I caught enough that you can see it is an owl.
one of the best I have seen.

i dont know much about this Spanish signs and symbols stuff, i do have a question though,
is it possible to do a man in shadow, something like that owl, only not standing alone, like theres
many other rocks about, as in the side of a mountian.
i thought i was imaging it, till i went back the next day, and couldnt see it again, till the right time,
when the time came it popped right out again, ive never gotten back there since, has been 25 yrs
i think i was just lucky to be there at right /close time again
this was at rainbow mountian
thanks i think this stuff is amazing, and love reading about it

 till the right time,
when the time came it popped right out again, ive never gotten back there since, has been 25 yrs
i think i was just lucky to be there at right /close time again
this was at rainbow mountian
thanks i think this stuff is amazing, and love reading about it

CW,
An infamous trick they had was to use existing stones to create a shadow that only shows up for a few minutes each day durring a short time of the year. These shadow signs are very hard to find and just as hard to capture on film. The owl I posted was gone by the time I got back in the truck and we pulled away.

Thom

hey guys. just found this thread, and have really enjoyed it.

saw that someone posted a pic of grandfather mtn, which is in western nc, back in dec 08 (on page 7 of this thread, about halfway down), and it was dismissed as a photoshop job. i didn't see that anyone stepped up to verify the photo, so i will. hope i'm not so late on this one as to be rude. don't mean to get the classroom off topic. dwayne

Dwayne,
glad you stopped by if only to straighten out the snafu with that picture,
I currently have a pm out the the poster and we will get a copy of that picture out to this page with a correction ASAP.
I like to stay with as close to the facts as possible so if there is a correction I will let the mistake stand as such and go on from there.
We are only human, right?  Never off topic to correct a mistake.

Thanks and welcome anytime.
Thom

Rangler and Thom,

thanks for the replies. again, great thread you have going here. really makes me wanna get back out west and wander a bit. glad i could help out. dwayne

Wow those are awesome pictures. Makes me wish we had things like that here in East Texas. I know the Spanish traveled up the Sabine river near me.  Some older men have told me about trails they used to walk to school where they found "those little spanish silver coins" and there is rumored treasure in the famous Hendrick's lake, which is 20 min from my house.  But its all woods here not much rock....  What should I look for if anything. 


Thanks so much for all the info guys it's been really fun learning everything and trying to "see" the pictures before they are reveled. I see a LOT in the previous posts..

Hey Cherryman,
I have enjoyed your posts everywhere else on T-Net.
Glad you decided to stop in here.

The trails are marked as you walk them by "natural things in UNNATURAL positions".
stacks of stones on a hill top, a white stone in a field of dark ones (or vice verse),
little things that just don't look right when everything else is perfect.

the best I can say is take pictures and study them.
then take more pictures and study ...
all the while going up and looking at everything as closely as you can... and take more pictures.
(what the heck.. you can always delete them)
when you have found what may be a sign ask me .
as long as I'm here I am always glad to answer any question, honestly.

The coins the old timers talk about  having found while out walking,
if these were Spanish then you have a pretty good chance of picking some up your self with an MD.
they should look similar to this one I picked up while walking through a site.

Thom

Ok guys,
Here is the original picture that Bumpstick posted,
I am moving the picture forward with his permission.
This was my mistake, I thought it was a photoshopped thing and said so.
Well, guess what.
I was wrong.
I have gone back and corrected my post with todays date.

The mountain is in North Carolina. It is called "Grandfather Mountain".
I and the rest of us who thought otherwise stand corrected.
This place is as stated. It actually exists.
WOW
Man made? Very possibly.
What a job.
Work the million monkey theory on this one!

Peoples!!

  Here are some pics of the comical side of whoever carved and set these things!!!    td

Peoples!!

  Here are some pics of the comical side of whoever carved and set these things!!!    td

What's up brother,
You never seen an arrow before??

Thom,

yes that looks like the coins they described. They said after a rain they would walk to school and find them all the time along the road.  Very old roads including Trammells Trace (sp) run through this area. a lot of history.  I was thinking about walking the Sabine River as possible to look for anything out of place.  Thanks for the advise! 

Hey!!  Who stole my picture??  Well here it is again!!  More Comical Stuff!    td    PS.  Rangler, I don't know how he did that either,, the guy scares me more and more each day!!!  HA!!   td

Thom,
I know you are good at signs, as you know I have my moments as well...sometimes
but tell me - how in thee hell you saw Tony's white dog before he POSTED
the pic, now that is good, scary good, but still really good,
can you teach me that? If not....
 I settle for just explaining it!! LOL
rangler
PS Tony happy to see you frying bigger fish!
...psst, you might have the kcalb god sa llew

You know how some things just dissappear without warning or any thing?
Well the post just before mine jumped into cyberspace.
I swear it was there , I replied and much to my surprise,
you think I am some kind of wizard or something
Honest ,
There was a post just before mine.
LOL
I ain't that good.
LOL

Tony!!!

That is freakin amazing!!!
Right there is the "white dog" you have been chasing!!

send me some pix from all directions Buddy.
lets see if we can't get you on the trail again.

Here is one more Guys,, I am in Love with this tree!! And what is incredible is the tree is alive and well  HA!!   td

I have studied this hoyo and am at odds with the impact.
My mind wants to say it is a heart but the more I look at it the more I think it is an owl.

Thom

I agree My Friend,, I also think it is an Owl!  I Love Owls too!  td

thanks for the reply thom, the pic of grandfather mt, is a good example
of the time of day and yr, to see the shadow figures, i go to that area
every couple of yrs, mostly in the fall and never have i seen the mt
image that well, as in pic. guess you have to be at the right place and time
to see it that well, when i retire there, ill make it a point, to look every few days
to see if i can see it that well, as the pic

CW,
I hope some day you do see it.
and thanks for helping sort out the mistake,
I really do like to see accuracy on these things.

I can't say whether Grandfather is a man made or not.
But that MT sure is a sight.

Thom

Tony, Thom.
Its a trifecta , a grand slam, 3 Owls!!! (CfK?)
truly a centerfold pic quality or front cover
for the true treasure hunter!
rangler

ps Thom, please allow us the dignity of ASKING
the question BEFORE you answer it !! hahaaha

  :
 

You got it. LOL

Ok guys need your help here. Here is a picture of a natural thing in a VERY unnatural place.   At first I thought it my be decoration being close to a road but looking at it more I'm not so sure.  It's about a mile from the Sabine River which was used by the Spanish for travel through Texas.  I see what could be a pointer but no other conformation marks. It actually looks like three large rocks stacked together  set up.  The left side rock tapers down to the right the right side tapers down to the left and what looks like some kind of head to me sits in the taper making one big formation.  Any thoughts?  It does point in the direction of the river....

another angle showing pointer? BTW all pictures were taken around 12:30

and last trying to show the stacking

Cherryman,
in the second picture, there is two wedge shaped stones depicting a two way trail.
The confirmation is on the rock they sit on.

Farther down the trail either way you go you should find other markers.
Don't be surprised that they are near a road.
Many roads are on top of the very trails themselves.
With very little variation what so ever.

NO WAY! Awesome! It would make sense knowing the history here but i didn't think I would find one so quick and obvious.  I was at work going to another store to do a transfer and that stood out like a sore thumb I busted a U-turn QUICKLY to investigate. The one pointing toward the right is in the direction of the Sabine river I think I'll try that way because it should lead to another marker quicker. OMG I'm so freaking excited I didn't think I would find anything like this in my area.  I guess it would be worth it bringing my MD too huh?  If this is what I think it might be it will probably just be a major trail traveled by the Spanish. Oh man this could have potential for relics and pocket spills but would you think that there might be some buried goodies along the way? 

Also you said you see a conformation what is it?

Sorry so many questions I'm just really excited!  Everything is Private property around here so I didn't think I would get a chance to explore so quickly.

These routs were traveled by Spanish troops, Traders, supply trains and miners
any number of settlers and odd travelers would use these main thoroughfares to be safer in their travels,
simply because of the soldiers that used them.

I think I love you....


lol thanks so much! I'm going to try and get permission to explore this evening.

Best of luck in all your hunts.
Hope you do find some of those coins.

I recomend you dig every signal as there is a lot more than coins that got dropped.

Canada...and Td.
 
Ohhhhh.....err...what hill   Oh THAT hill...   THAT hill is scary. Don't want to talk about that hill.  Makes me feel shaky.

Canada thank you so much! You caught that ground rock..those are often meaningful so I've heard. And.... you pointed out  it could be related to that hill.  Lets just call it  The Hill with No Name.  TD thanks for reminding  me. Rangler thanks for the pm.

Here is a close up of the  formation is was pointing too. Its not the best.
 


So could be a lot of ways to interpret it...time will tell. 

Thom... thank you for post. Indeed will be studying them..

TD you pictures crack me up bro! lol

Now to catch up on rest of the posts here.

You should always exercise caution Kim,
But don't let a hill side scare you as it stands.
if there is a death trap present it will not be tripped by normal traffic.

They usually are stable , and can only be triggered if a key point is disturbed.
exploration is not going to bother it.
I am not saying there is one there, I am saying IF it is there.
It will be digging that will make that hill side dangerous.


Happy hunting
Thom

You are wise indeed Thom.

A short note to all

If you ever find a site on a hill side that is a definite dig.
Please be very careful to study every aspect of the hill above the dig ,
and understand that the part you dig out will destabilise the part above the hole.
When you start you will notice that once you get started the regular dirt layer will turn to a fine sandy layer.
Under the fine sand you will probably find a thin layer of loose gravel. Big RED flag!
STOP digging and study!
This is a standard set up that has been found many times and ignored.
It is put together in such a way that
when you have removed enough of the over burden to reach your cache or tunnel entrance,
The over burden remaining will have enough free space to slide. It is meant to slide...
Crushing anything and anyone in it's path.

Like I said before, regular foot traffic won't bother it,
But digging will.
No hole in the ground,
and No amount of treasure is worth any of your lives.
Please, stay safe out there.

Here is a link that gives some insight to some of the more elaborate death traps as well as some of the very simple ones.
We can thank Gollum for gathering all of this together.

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,40136.0.html

What a day,
Very mentally exausting.
This for once sure is an awesome place to settle in and rest my mind.
Thanks to all who post here.
and happy 4th of July.

 You and all the others have put a lot of effort into freely sharing information with us less informed .
 I'm going to nominate this thread for Banner and Best of Treasure Net .

You and all the others have put a lot of effort into freely sharing information with us less informed .
 I'm going to nominate this thread for Banner and Best of Treasure Net .

Thanks Jim for the thought as well as the kind words.
Frankly I never thought it would go this long.
I must say it has been an interesting ride.
I find that i must wait to see how it ends.

Thanks again
1,000 posts ...WOW.
Thom

Here's to 1000 more the information here is worth more than all the gold we are all trying to find.

Thank you all for keeping this going

I will echo Cherryman's words,
Thanks to all for keeping this going.It has been a great experience.
I hope it continues for a while.
Would kind of be a shame to stop now.

LOL
Thom

Hey Thom and others.  I found this book by accident while looking for something else.  Naturally I thought of this thread and thought I would post to see if anyone has read this and what they thought.  If someone has never seen it before then maybe it might be useful for them?   Good luck!

http://turtlesleadtotreasure.com/Home_Page.php

Hey Thom and others.  I found this book by accident while looking for something else.  Naturally I thought of this thread and thought I would post to see if anyone has read this and what they thought.  If someone has never seen it before then maybe it might be useful for them?   Good luck!

http://turtlesleadtotreasure.com/Home_Page.php

CT
This book is at best a stretch of copied information from Kenworthy's books,
as well as some from Gale Rhoads "Waybill to Spanish Mines and Treasures"

The original information is, as I said above, a stretch.
Mostly another treasure hunter who didn't have enough of his own information to print something new.