Basic signs and symbols you have found

lanny, I can really empathize with you, georgius, lh , jesus,  and others who find areas with many many markers. I've come to conclusion 80% are simply to distract. They are wonderful to see and document and that is a treasure right there to me.  But you can spend a lot of time just..looking, wandering  and wondering just HOW dumb are you after all?   A little dumb or a whole lotta od dumb.  heh.. Well at least i feel that way sometimes.

If the area is larger...you may want to just focus on finding the trails and follow one trail at a time. You may also find one or two trail maps writ in stone telling you about the area.

On your rock..besides the possible bell, I see a possible lamb's head upper right, and in the middle a flying bird or possibly a winged man (mathew). On the left..what are those eyes looking at? Perhaps the other outlined rock..perhaps it has some info on it.


I've no special knowledge on the bell. I've inferred from other posts here on tnet - I think stilldiggin and maybe rangler - that a bell is a very good sign and means something is close. I'm not aware that it is related to church treasure.
Hmmm..the bell in the church calls the faithful to the true treasure of this world... perhaps a thought like that is one idea why the bell was possibly chosen as a symbol.

Please pardon my scribbles ... (long Day)

Circle ,,, Rabbit

fingers?


something to check

Yes I saw those later a while back but I could not make hide or hair of them, even if I could make out some
of the symbols I'm not sure what they would be telling me. I'm still trying to put two and two together
and trying not to destroy my sites.There are quite a few death traps around so I'm studying the situation.Thank
 you for your in put. Later I will get in to maps, it's amazing you don't even know you are walking through
one some times.               

Lanny,
Stilldiggin posted a blurb about keyhole marks,
you should be finding one nearby.
the rabbit as shown is a confirmation that tells you of an alternative entrance somewhere.
follow the signs correctly and they will show you how to get around the Death Traps.

what are the dog carvings supposed to represent at a site? thanks brent

There are usually two dogs on a trail,
They may have signs between them and usually do.
If you are able to follow them in sequence the first dog will be a light color, "white dog".
The next dog will be dark in color, "black dog".
The black dog tells you that you are close to the goal.
I have seen as many as 48 signs between a black dog and the death trap.
(just to give you an idea of what the "Spaniard " thought was close.)

Please note, dogs signify a royal trail. They do not always indicate a treasure trail.
Just as turtles do not always indicate gold or silver, the same is true with dogs.

I have shown in a previous post where the treasure indicated by a turtle was water.
a true treasure in this part of the country.

thank you very very much for info.more for the notes. brent

Thank you old dog for the hint on the rabbit, I went up there again but I could not find the rabbit or the
key hole. I had a great time will go up again shortly. I might have to go up at a different time to get a
better pic of the shadow rabbit.  Will keep you posted.

Talking about rabbits, here is one at one of my other sites.






The #15 on the side turns to 13 at different angels, there are also two drill holes 50ft back from it.
They are over 5ft deep.I put my shovel handle in and never hit bottom, need longer measuring device.
Wish I could make a full time job of this, sure is fun. I'll have to put my nose to the grind stone and
figure out what site to work on.With every ones help,I have started to put a lot of the pieces to gather.
Time will tell.     

I forgot to mention the drill holes are straight up and down, they are not in a face rock.

What does the shadow dog and shadow dragon mean? Am I close or not. Thomas

First off not to miss lead you, I am still new at trying to unravel different symbols. As to the shadows symbols
being dark in nature I would tend to believe you are close to what ever the trail lead you to.Are there any other
marks or symbols to tell you what you might be looking for.[ treasure rooms, harts, dill holes,ect.. ] Any thing to help
get a better aspect of the meaning of the dog and dragon. We know the dog does in one way or the other represents royalty, mostly a trail monument. But is it leading you to a treasure room or just the area were the
mine site might be. How big are they and check out the direction they are leaning, or might be looking at. Again just my opinion with no pics it's hard to tell. I have a shadow owl about 15ft from an entrance of a room and a black duck head 30ft away.Will not dig there to big of a death trap , life is to short already. Hope the best for you!   

What does the shadow dog and shadow dragon mean? Am I close or not. Thomas

I have seen many different kinds of dogs.
The first thing you need to do is figure out if the "dragon" isn't a type of dog.
Poodles are especially associated with the royal caches,
The king had poodles and designated them as royal dogs.
The face of a poodle can take on many different shapes due to the different grooming styles.

Several dragons I have been shown over the years have turned out to be poodles.

In post #1204 it shows a shadow dog and above it a shadow dragon. Hadji so cleverly spotted it. I had missed it. On this site there are so many signs that it is truly astounding. I have not been able to go up on top of the mesa where there are probably more unfound signs. I feel that sometimes this area is a yard of signs. I do feel that there is a treasure or was there at one time. There is alot of rock above this area that would suggest death traps galore. I like being on the top of the ground and have no wish to be under it, alive or dead. I'm looking at a 2 box detector, but do not know which one to choose. Any ideas?

There is a representation of my ideas in 1205.
the light creates many shadows as the day progresses.
the things that don't change are the things we often miss.

I am the only one to mention the face that leers out of the wall.
It seems to hapily do so.
quite clearly a sign in your face.

look a little closer at what is there and not imagine what might be.

Well spoken OD

lil less Fantasy Lil More Proof in the Puddin.

After rereading my post from yesterday,
it sounded like I was being a little short.

I am not saying these things to hurt anyones feelers.
I do notice however that from time to time,
we reach for signs and symbolism that seem to exist in a crowded situation.
I find myself doing it form time to time as well.

We can either chase clouds or the actual signs that will show us a trail.
We are smart enough to discern the difference, without feeling slighted.

Thom

Whew! finally got me an internet connection again.  looking forward to catching up!

Welcome back Jason.

Here's a face for you.  Not a rock that looks like a face from the correct angle.  Not a face that you have to use your imagination to see.  A real face - carved by man and weather-worn by time, but unmistakable in the mind of the later searcher looking for it.

Thanks Sprinfield,
I posted a face of mine in #135 that is of this caliber.
definite faces that were meant to be found later.

here is a pic of the shadow signs in full view. There is alot of signs and symbols going on here. See what you can see. I hope I got the right pic.

maybe a horse and lion?

Its hard to see the context when the pics are so large and have to scroll all over.  I have to download them then  resize them, then take a look.

No shadow expert..they so very often seem indefinite to me. But If these are artificial..i do like a  few of them.

The yellow arrow..I can't help but think at right time of day the shadow would look like something else of interest. Just imagine the shape of the hollow and how that outcropping on top would throw a shadow.

The green - well looks like a dragon head to me. But a lot of things looks like dragons to me lol  One day Thom will be getting a tattoo that says "I luv dragons"  I vow.

The  red arrow. I like that shape very much if it is artificial.  

The face  and pointer Thom pointed out earlier i see too. I just had nothing to add except a "me too!"

here is what I can see. Am I seeing things, some maybe but alot of this stuff is man made. Invert the area where the horse is, it is amazing. Thanks to all who have helped. Thomas

Thomas,
I must say there really is a lot going on in this picture.
BUT... There is a mixture of the antient and the Spanish that needs sorting.

Step back,
look at the dragon shadow ...
it is an eye for an antient face.
The carved face is the Spanish one.

Please don't ask us to solve the clues for you in these threads.
this one especially as it is an educational one.
I am quite pleased to give you the clues that will help you solve it if you will read the rest of the threads in "Marks and Signs".
I didn't start this to do the work for you. But to help you think for yourselves.

I am not saying this to only one person.
But to Many who seem to think this is here to give them the edge ...


They already have that edge.
I can help sort out the clues and will hapily give the clues to see their chase to a conclusion.
Please read the other things available here in "Marks and Signs".

this could be a bear head.  brent

OD,
alot of signs here like you said. I see the face and add a heart.
okey dokey

looks like a wolf and china man looking to stars.

good door bad door!

... I'm a little suprised by this remark Springfield, after all isn't alot of  what we are looking at made by an artist? Alot of the enjoyment for me is looking at a piece of artwork and seeing things that are not obvious..... but impressions. Artists do, and did study light, colors, shading, and often times made details so fine you could only see them with a magnifying glass, and while not all of this is readily apparent it's still there and man made ( on purpose )....

In a word - no.  We're not talking about subtle artwork or faces in clouds here  - we're talking about signs left behind by explorers/discoverers (not dreamy artists) in a totally unmapped, very slightly explored and uninhabited wilderness for the benefit of someone in the future to try to find to get back to a spot of interest.  Your rocks are really groovy all right - you can see all kinds of $__t if you stare long enough.  I've done plenty of that myself - it's called pareidolia.  Fun, but nothing to do with signs and symbols.   Tell me, if you were leaving sign to follow vin the Amazon jungle today, would you leave something obvious-to-everyone-can't-miss-it or would you choose some natural feature that might look like a poodle if you saw it from the correct angle at the right time of day on the Equinox?

Hi Old Dog ... I figured out how to post pictures on here.

Can you give me any suggestions as to the meaning/relevance of "key" symbol in the upper left hand corner of this rockmap (on top of the inverted C)

I know the meaning of the dotted X and would welcome opinion on the wolfs head deposit symbol.

This is a Spanish / Yama marker from the Philippines.

[[No, it isnt; by the way 'pueblo and 'aztec' are two different critters]]

.... your face there is early aztec, (pueblo)  [No, it isnt; by the way 'pueblo and 'aztec' are two different critters]  , there's pictographs [These are petroglyphs - pictographs are painted]  all over the united states, none of these have anything to do with treasure of any kind, [Thank you - I wish others on this forum realized the same]   what exactly is it you're looking for Springfeild?? And I'm really not needing any of the kind of help you have to offer [That's OK, you might not understand what I have to offer anyway]  unless you're handy with a shovel  [Better than you can even imagine]   and work cheap [Sorry] , so you can stop with the condescending attitude, I've said it before and I'll say it again megalomania is far worse on the psychiatric end of things and there's quite  a few of you "experts" that have it real bad. [Sorry - just trying to bring your feet back to earth (guess I may have failed)]   Following animal signs to an indian cave isn't that big of a trick, we've got lots of those here in colorado. [Hmmm ...so what?]  I can post some pictures if you'd like on another topic.  [No thanks.]
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.... not that it's really up to me to educate you....

Thanks for the offer, but I'll pass for now.

that's what I figured, in the future when you quote me don't embellish it, your megalomaniacism is showing

When I need your advice, you'll be the first to know.

PLEASE !  Don,t disturb  these  excellent forums with personal bickering .  Jim

let's get back to the task at hand.

[[No, it isnt; by the way 'pueblo and 'aztec' are two different critters]]

.... your face there is early aztec, (pueblo)  [No, it isnt; by the way 'pueblo and 'aztec' are two different critters]  , there's pictographs [These are petroglyphs - pictographs are painted]  all over the united states, none of these have anything to do with treasure of any kind, [Thank you - I wish others on this forum realized the same]   what exactly is it you're looking for Springfeild?? And I'm really not needing any of the kind of help you have to offer [That's OK, you might not understand what I have to offer anyway]  unless you're handy with a shovel  [Better than you can even imagine]   and work cheap [Sorry] , so you can stop with the condescending attitude, I've said it before and I'll say it again megalomania is far worse on the psychiatric end of things and there's quite  a few of you "experts" that have it real bad. [Sorry - just trying to bring your feet back to earth (guess I may have failed)]   Following animal signs to an indian cave isn't that big of a trick, we've got lots of those here in colorado. [Hmmm ...so what?]  I can post some pictures if you'd like on another topic.  [No thanks.]
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to bad i missed this , Steve are you absolutely sure about a couple of these statements or is it just a matter of your opinion?

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to bad i missed this , Steve are you absolutely sure about a couple of these statements or is it just a matter of your opinion?
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Which statements, k?

[quote author=kanabite link=topic=149002.msg2022833#msg2022833
to bad i missed this , Steve are you absolutely sure about a couple of these statements or is it just a matter of your opinion?

Which statements, k?

[/quote]the first two

your face there is early aztec, (pueblo)  [No, it isnt; by the way 'pueblo and 'aztec' are two different critters]  , there's pictographs [These are petroglyphs - pictographs are painted]  all over the united states, none of these have anything to do with treasure of any kind, [Thank you - I wish others on this forum realized the same]  

 
i realize this is kind of a blanket deal, and i missed this little exchange , but i also know there may be exceptions to every rule depending on the circumstance.. as far as two different critters that could really depend on ones perspective . case in point would be Chaco Canyon for one .... also native writing such as petroglyphs in general may not have anything to do with treasure , but like i said there maybe exceptions to every rule . your "happy man" comes to mind , off hand . along with this , which by my own definition would be considered treasure and was found quite a few years ago in southern Utah in a more native "Fremont Indian"cave with lots of such writing .now no banner nomination the find is not mine , i just took the pictures. it is a French merchant token minted somewhere between 1400 and 1497 , as far as anyone was able to determine . any way im not trying to fight with you here but was just somewhat confused after only catching part of the conversation, imagine that

All I can say is wow.  I have spent my spare time for the last 5 days reading this thread, now I get to start on a few others.  Glad I have lots to read up on this winter.

Many thanks to each of you who have taken your time to share these photos and your interpretations. 

There is one thing I can actually clear up on here.  Several times a photo reported to be Grandfather Mountain here in NC has been brought up.  This is NOT Grandfather.  I have no idea if it is shopped or not, but I am including a few photos of Grandfather for you to compare.

Thanks Mark,
welcome aboard. Your input is welcome and I must conclude...
that is an awesome mountain.
Glad to see it without photo shop.
I still think it is amazing.

Bob,
That token is an awesome representative.
is it yours?
Sure would be cool to see the reverse side.

Thom

Thanks Mark,
welcome aboard. Your input is welcome and I must conclude...
that is an awesome mountain.
Glad to see it without photo shop.
I still think it is amazing.

Thanks!  Grandfather Mountain is on of our natural treasures here in the state.  It, along with Linville Falls, Linville Caverns, The Smokey Mountains, and the Outer Banks draw huge amounts of visitors yearly.

I have been registered here before, and had a pretty decent post count but for some reason could not recover the password from my email.  Guess that is what I get for being away for so long.

Bob,
That token is an awesome representative.
is it yours?
Sure would be cool to see the reverse side.

Thom

well Thom the pictures are mine. the item however is not . i am surprised you have not seen the other side . because in the course of trying to identify it for the people who do own it,  there were pictures posted . let me think about that for a while . the thing is ,it raises some very interesting question , like first of all what the heck is something that old doing in a cave in southern Utah,in the first place. it almost qualifies as an OOPART , or out of place artifact . to a coin collector it would be considered in very poor shape . i have not found another example of a French Jeton that is a perfect match yet . the letters on this one are in relief where the other examples on the Net anyway appear to be stamped . the iconography may date back to before the 1400's or before the regular type of Jeton were minted . i will say this , i am of the opinion that at some time in the past this particular item was altered . pounded flat and parts of it redone . it is paper thin , about the size of a modern day quarter . the possibility does exist ,no ,matter how remote that it may be of Knights Templar origin , but it might also have been dropped by a trapper or something in a native type cave . who knows .there are a million possibilities i quess

Downloaded this picture to play with in paint and I found a few things extra.  You guys are rubbing off on my   I know some of it is duplicating what others have found but some is not.

No one has mentioned this owl. 

No one has mentioned this owl. 

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Nice catch Buddy.

well this looks like a rhino front end.

Shortstack;

Is this your owl's little brother?

Do you mean this one?
The name of the photo is "Mirror Owl"
I am sure the original poster saw them both

I had to reduce the size of this picture----my eyes were starting to water.
Old Dog, did you point out this black bear and man?

Nope,

you did.

LOL

For the turtle enthusiasist.

hi irbaddadjoe
cool turtle, is the turtle pictured where you found it, and as you found it
id be so tempted to take it home, ya know

Cw I took quite a few photos of it where it sat . That is one of the photos . I did look around quite abit for another symbol or sign to no avail. I did take it home.

I would be inclined to call that a Duck.
A turtles Back is normally a fair bit higher than the top of its Head.
Looks like the trail Ducked out on you as well

Strange similarities.

The first is from post #1177, and the bottom is from #1267.




The bottom one appears more developed, and has an eye open.

ThomasP,
Something that stands out big time in your picture is this horse head.
It jumped of as I scrolled by earlier, thought I would point it out.

#1 and#2 are small horse heads #3 looks like it could be a bear. Between the two owls on the other pic
lower in the gully looks like a owls head.

Here is a really interesting face that we found recently.
Amazing what a person will walk past ... then turn around one day and see.
LOL

Cheez, Old Dog.  That's a WICKED one.  I wonder what the meaning of a toothless hag would be. 

She looks like my 6th grade teacher.

HEY SHORTSTACK!!!  MAAAAYBE,,,  NO TEETH, NO BITE,, NO TRAP!!  JUST MY GUESS BRO!  td   PEACE!  AND MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!!!!!   AND GOOD LUCK ThomasP !!!!

HEY SHORTSTACK!!!  MAAAAYBE,,,  NO TEETH, NO BITE,, NO TRAP!!  JUST MY GUESS BRO!  td   PEACE!  AND MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!!!!!   AND GOOD LUCK ThomasP !!!!

   That could be.  Also, it could be a witch putting the "Hoodoo" on the cache, too.   

YEA BRO!!  I ONCE SAW A WITCH FIGURE WITH A SKELETAL FACE, ON A ROCK,, AND SHE LOOKED LIKE SHE WAS PREGNANT AND HER BELLY WAS EXPLODED OUT AND THERE WAS TREASURE LOOKING STUFF IN FRONT!!! IT MADE ME THINK THAT THEY WERE SAYING, DEATH GAVE BIRTH TO TREASURE!! SPIRITUAL OR PHYSICAL DEATH OR BOTH ?? td

YEA BRO!!  I ONCE SAW A WITCH FIGURE WITH A SKELETAL FACE, ON A ROCK,, AND SHE LOOKED LIKE SHE WAS PREGNANT AND HER BELLY WAS EXPLODED OUT AND THERE WAS TREASURE LOOKING STUFF IN FRONT!!! IT MADE ME THINK THAT THEY WERE SAYING, DEATH GAVE BIRTH TO TREASURE!! SPIRITUAL OR PHYSICAL DEATH OR BOTH ?? td

What in h--- were you drinking?...........................................or smoking?   

THOSE DAYS ARE GONE BRO!!  JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT TREASURE CAN DO TO A MANS SOUL!! td

You're right about that.  If a person puts too much "value" on "things",  he's doomed...................in more ways than one.

ThomasP!!! HERE I SEE AN ARM AND HAND REACHING,, BUT IT ALSO HAS A SMALL HORSESHOE POINTING BACK IN THE OTHER DIRECTION,, LEFT AND DOWN!! YOU MIGHT HAVE A LOOK THATA WAYS!! LUCK BRO!!  td

Cw I took quite a few photos of it where it sat . That is one of the photos . I did look around quite abit for another symbol or sign to no avail. I did take it home.

irbaddadjoe i think i read someplace no tail and no legs and facing west
you should dig under it, maybe the more knowledgeable know, and
weigh in on that, if im right, i hope you remember will it was sitting

X

Cabinboy,
Welcometo the fray.
that is a pretty cool pair of crossing quartz seams.
I would say it is a natural at this point.
The Spanish did use naturals to make signs but unless there are other signs to confirm this one I would say no.

Thanks for sharing an awesome picture.

Hey, Old Dog, what exactly is your idea of the meaning of that old hag you posted?
 And, NO, I would not believe it's an old girlfriend. 

yah its about time you need to quit being a puss and lets get to looking. you know who's talking that is wat the make coverauls for. wah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yah its about time you need to quit being a puss and lets get to looking. you know who's talking that is wat the make coverauls for. wah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Excuse me.  Who and what the heck are you talking about?

When is this page going to flip to page 14.

When is this page going to flip to page 14.

Threads like this have 100 posts per page.
This one leaves 9 more for the page to turn.

Hey, Old Dog, what exactly is your idea of the meaning of that old hag you posted?
 And, NO, I would not believe it's an old girlfriend. 

 
No not an old girl friend.
Off the top of my head a face like this looks at a cache that may or may not still be there.
The open mouth is characteristic of an open hole or tunnel.

I will help it out one more post. Thomas

hey Thom, would that stand true for any prominate figure with a mouth open or a big smile on its face? thanks Brent       its not to cold 4 you is it?

well 14 soon

I think there's 4 more.   

looks like you are going to get to turn your own page.

The weather has turned here,
It started snowing lightly last night. There was about 3/4 inch when I went to bed.
This morning there is a foot plus and still snowing and blowing hard.
on the lee side of the house the drift is two feet and growing because of the wind.
the temps are staying below freezing but have warmed up to the upper 20s . This last week they were staying around 0.
Outside the valleys they are predicting as much as 1 to 5 feet of snow, and the wind makes whiteout conditions.
Folks using snowmobiles to get to work. LOL
all this precipitation is a novel thing for this area.
usually the average overall precip is 10 inches or less. that includes snow!
So this is a monumental one.

Say, Old Dog.  Does "Western Colorado" mean Grand Junction;  or Rifle? 

Maybe I am the lucky one lol. New page for me? We will see.

Thom..that is an awesome face. I don't know..it keeps reminding me of this. I guess the chin portion.

This points to 17 tons of go...err..well it is used I think as a trail marker generally.

i see his mouth is closed- might be something there- hope so and hope you dig it up

Hi Everyone, The quarts X in my pix does look natural if you could see the surrounding ground but i couldn't help myself. it looked so perfect! It is located very close to another landmark thats been known to draw thousands of people to it. I'am sure some of you will recognize it. A fun place to visit. 

Say, Old Dog.  Does "Western Colorado" mean Grand Junction;  or Rifle? 

To be a little more specific ...
A little town between Grand junction and Pallisade called Clifton.
Even closer ...Lower Clifton by the Colorado River.

Say, Old Dog.  Does "Western Colorado" mean Grand Junction;  or Rifle? 

To be a little more specific ...
A little town between Grand junction and Pallisade called Clifton.
Even closer ...Lower Clifton by the Colorado River.

I ran I-70 a few times when I drove the big trucks and always stopped at that little Mom and Pop truckstop near Rifle;  on the south side of the highway.  Pretty country through there.  It's been 15 years though, and that place may not be there anymore.  The last time I was through there, I think they were trying to set up a little museum, too. 

hey Thom,  its not to cold 4 you is it?

Yup, It got too cold this morning.
Temps hit 5 below
Not just too cold ... absolutely dangerous.

By now you guys to the East of me are experiencing the same as I am.
fair warning ... it got down to 17 below zero at one point last night.
It was -13 when I got up.

Makes you tired of cold really fast.

O.D. - was out your way during the late Elk season (we woke up with it +1 on one morning and the heat had went out sometime during the night). - My second trip to your portion of the state, with this time being more aware of the history so to speak. Absolutely beautiful landscapes.  As we were heading home they were shutting I-70 down behind us as we were coming through.  At least your 13 below is a dry cold instead of our southeast/mid-atlantic wet cold.   

O.D. - was out your way during the late Elk season (we woke up with it +1 on one morning and the heat had went out sometime during the night). - My second trip to your portion of the state, with this time being more aware of the history so to speak. Absolutely beautiful landscapes.  As we were heading home they were shutting I-70 down behind us as we were coming through.  At least your 13 below is a dry cold instead of our southeast/mid-atlantic wet cold.   

Most of the time it is a dry cold, but with all of the snow on the ground,
the humidity is running 70%+. So the cold really cuts pretty hard.
With any kind of wind or breeze a temp of 0 or below...
exposed skin reacts like a sunburn if exposed too long

Awesome stuff Ernie,
all the work you have done with drill holes got erased from the previous part of the thread.
if you don't mind repitition and feel comfortable about it could you please repost the basics.
No need for locations or anything that compromises what you are doing.
Thanks Buddy.


There are a bunch of new folks following this thread that would benifit from your expertice.
I don't know of anyone who knows more about drill holes.

Heres a couple of drill holes with 4 corner dots that indicate a rectangle. The 4 corner symbols of which  2 each sides are 460 feet and 2 sides are 360, each corner has 2 symbols each, if you look at the 1 cm angled hole thats 7 cm deep, it seems to indicate that something is in the middle of the rectangle 7 cm deep and 45 degrees. This has Jesuit Priest fingerprints all over it with the drill holes

I agree and can clarify a little.
The Jesuite influence is evident in that these highly educated people were on these expditions to keep the faith.
But also to make sure that all the rules were followed as well.

dsty,
I agree with OD that there needs to be some new mentoring on bore holes.  I have a site with a bore hole and I am clueless on what to make of it.
Any teaching on this subject would be greatly appreciated.

okey dokey

i am going to site this weekend will have pics of several drill holes to share and seek help with, all different sizes mostly big 7"and 8" wide holes.on bluffs,and river bottoms,and three in a tombstone marker. thanks brent

I do not know if this is a sign or not, but I found this carved into a cliff face here in North central PA.  It a 3 horned ram.  I have done searched for it meaning everywhere i can think of and I found nothing so far.  About the only other peice of information i can give you is there is a cemetary on the top of the cliff.  Bit looking at the style of carving, i think it was there before the cemetary was.

Erin:
"VonDigger"