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Posted May 18, 2008, 07:34:20 AM |
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I am looking for information on this belt buckle. Found in coal mining camp in operation from 1897-1927.
Thank you!
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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted May 18, 2008, 07:50:37 AM |
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Think it's an Ohio civil war buckle..whats the back look like?
Don
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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted May 18, 2008, 08:08:03 AM |
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here is a picture of the back. not much but the place where it hooked.
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Posts: 5095
ENGLAND
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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted May 18, 2008, 08:49:57 AM |
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Looks similar to all the other Civil War buckles I have seen on here  |
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted May 18, 2008, 09:12:42 AM |
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This page has repro's...still trying to find an original..Click catalog Ohio http://www.civilwarbuckles.com/ |
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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted May 18, 2008, 11:45:28 AM |
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you the man, thats it, wonder what its worth? thanks geese
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IRON BRIGADE MEMBER Posts: 5811
Kentucky
Detector used: Fisher 1266-X and Tesoro Silver uMax
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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted May 18, 2008, 11:19:49 PM |
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That is one HECK of a find! I've only ever seen ONE in person. It was in a museum.
-Buckleboy
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Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my post above were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.
2008 Clad: 28
2008 Old Coins: 46
IRON recovered and recycled since March: 575 lbs.
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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted May 19, 2008, 02:02:01 PM |
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what museum was thst? any idea on value of it? bobby
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted May 19, 2008, 04:59:50 PM |
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Bobby still haven't found an original at sell price but looking
Don
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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted May 19, 2008, 05:06:32 PM |
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thanks for looking,hope you find something. bobby
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IRON BRIGADE MEMBER Posts: 5811
Kentucky
Detector used: Fisher 1266-X and Tesoro Silver uMax
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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted May 20, 2008, 05:10:07 AM |
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what museum was thst? any idea on value of it? bobby
It was a museum in Southwestern Virginia--part of a private "dug" collection of an old detectorist on "loan" to them... I don't have a clue as to value, but I'm looking. It should be worth at the very least as much as a similar condition common plate. -Buckleboy |
Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my post above were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.
2008 Clad: 28
2008 Old Coins: 46
IRON recovered and recycled since March: 575 lbs.
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Ghost Towning, Treasure Hunting FOOL! Posts: 196
Des Moines, IA area
Detector used: Bounty Hunter Time Ranger and Garrett Ace 250
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted May 21, 2008, 09:30:05 PM |
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Bobby my friend,
After about 6 hours of searching, I am not able to find a value. Personally I think you hit the jackpot regardless of value! Hope one of us find a match to it soon!
Eric
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Good Luck!
IOWA HUNTER
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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted May 22, 2008, 04:04:43 PM |
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no luck so far, anybody got ideas of relic hunters that might know something. bobby
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Ghost Towning, Treasure Hunting FOOL! Posts: 196
Des Moines, IA area
Detector used: Bounty Hunter Time Ranger and Garrett Ace 250
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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted May 22, 2008, 05:52:15 PM |
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no luck so far, anybody got ideas of relic hunters that might know something. bobby
Bobby, Try the "Ask Mark Parker" column in Western & Easter Treasures or Q & A with Charles Harris in American Digger Magazine also ID's stuff. You can Email him a picture and description to: adpublisher@mindspring.com or snail mail him to: Can You ID, PO Box 126, Acworth, GA 30101. If these two can't help you I don't think anyone can. Eric |
Good Luck!
IOWA HUNTER
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IRON BRIGADE MEMBER Posts: 5811
Kentucky
Detector used: Fisher 1266-X and Tesoro Silver uMax
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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted May 22, 2008, 06:46:07 PM |
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no luck so far, anybody got ideas of relic hunters that might know something. bobby
Bobby, Try the "Ask Mark Parker" column in Western & Easter Treasures or Q & A with Charles Harris in American Digger Magazine also ID's stuff. You can Email him a picture and description to: adpublisher@mindspring.com or snail mail him to: Can You ID, PO Box 126, Acworth, GA 30101. If these two can't help you I don't think anyone can. Eric I don't know about Charles Harris, but Mark Parker will give you a value on the item as well. |
Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my post above were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.
2008 Clad: 28
2008 Old Coins: 46
IRON recovered and recycled since March: 575 lbs.
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Posts: 1327
Detector used: Explorer
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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted May 23, 2008, 09:21:24 AM |
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An authentic Ohio CW period plate should be worth a small fortune. Any update?
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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted May 23, 2008, 02:08:13 PM |
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hey thanks for the info ,will keep you all informed. bobby
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dfx only Posts: 41
Lawrenceburg, Kentucky
Detector used: White`s dfx
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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted May 23, 2008, 07:00:54 PM |
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This plate is a Waist Belt Plate, Ohio Militia, Officer, ca. 1861-65
There were two versions of said plate. One is 50X81mm w/o keeper and the other is 50X80mm w/o keeper. They are both cast brass with an applied tongue. This information is taken from page 409 of the book titled American Military Belt Plates.
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All men are created unequal!
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Ghost Towning, Treasure Hunting FOOL! Posts: 196
Des Moines, IA area
Detector used: Bounty Hunter Time Ranger and Garrett Ace 250
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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted May 23, 2008, 07:57:37 PM |
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This plate is a Waist Belt Plate, Ohio Militia, Officer, ca. 1861-65
There were two versions of said plate. One is 50X81mm w/o keeper and the other is 50X80mm w/o keeper. They are both cast brass with an applied tongue. This information is taken from page 409 of the book titled American Military Belt Plates.
Do they list a value in this book? |
Good Luck!
IOWA HUNTER
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dfx only Posts: 41
Lawrenceburg, Kentucky
Detector used: White`s dfx
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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted May 23, 2008, 08:23:26 PM |
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This book doesn`t list values of said plates.
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All men are created unequal!
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IRON BRIGADE MEMBER Posts: 5811
Kentucky
Detector used: Fisher 1266-X and Tesoro Silver uMax
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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted May 23, 2008, 11:40:17 PM |
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I have a hunch that this should be a BANNER find.
And I feel like it will be Quite Valuable in the monetary sense...
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Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my post above were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.
2008 Clad: 28
2008 Old Coins: 46
IRON recovered and recycled since March: 575 lbs.
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dfx only Posts: 41
Lawrenceburg, Kentucky
Detector used: White`s dfx
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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted May 24, 2008, 05:59:08 AM |
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The Civil War Collector`s Price Guide, (Millennium Edition) published in 2000 only lists one Ohio Militia Belt Plate. It gives a value of $2975.00 in excavated condition. It also states that the same plate in nonexcavated condition is valued at $2475.00. I hope this is of some help to you.
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All men are created unequal!
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Zesty Harley Rider USAF Retired Posts: 10293
Montana
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Reply To This Topic #22 Posted May 24, 2008, 06:07:31 AM |
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The Civil War Collector`s Price Guide, (Millennium Edition) published in 2000 only lists one Ohio Militia Belt Plate. It gives a value of $2975.00 in excavated condition. It also states that the same plate in nonexcavated condition is valued at $2475.00. I hope this is of some help to you.
I did find, someplace a few days ago, the lettered OVM (Ohio Volunteer Militia) Belt Plate priced in that range, but not the one pictured above. |
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Reply To This Topic #23 Posted May 24, 2008, 06:19:33 AM |
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The Civil War Collector`s Price Guide, (Millennium Edition) published in 2000 only lists one Ohio Militia Belt Plate. It gives a value of $2975.00 in excavated condition. It also states that the same plate in nonexcavated condition is valued at $2475.00.
Values for this plate— the Ohio state seal sword belt plate, not the OVM— are basically the same in the 10th Ed. (2003): excavated, $3,000+; nonexcavated, $2,500+. |
“In all matters of opinion,
our adversaries are insane.”
— Oscar Wilde
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Zesty Harley Rider USAF Retired Posts: 10293
Montana
Detector used: Bounty Hunter(s) SMOKE FREE since Nov 1, 07
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Reply To This Topic #24 Posted May 24, 2008, 06:21:54 AM |
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The Civil War Collector`s Price Guide, (Millennium Edition) published in 2000 only lists one Ohio Militia Belt Plate. It gives a value of $2975.00 in excavated condition. It also states that the same plate in nonexcavated condition is valued at $2475.00.
Values for this plate— the Ohio state seal sword belt plate, not the OVM— are basically the same in the 10th Ed. (2003): excavated, $3,000+; nonexcavated, $2,500+. Awesome! Congrats! |
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Reply To This Topic #25 Posted May 24, 2008, 07:28:21 AM |
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Hmm. Just noticed the wide border and lack of a side loop/slot. This looks more like the c. 1875-1890 Ohio Militia state seal plate, as shown on p. 503 of O'Donnell & Campbell's American Military Belt Plates. Still a great find!  |
“In all matters of opinion,
our adversaries are insane.”
— Oscar Wilde
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Hunt, kneel, dig, pray Posts: 865
Dayton, Oh
Detector used: Whites M-6 with Bullseye Pinpointer
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Reply To This Topic #26 Posted May 24, 2008, 10:41:31 AM |
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yup, looks like an Ohio CW belt buckle based on the web site listed above. Great find.
SKD
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Whites M-6
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Reply To This Topic #27 Posted May 24, 2008, 11:08:05 AM |
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If it's late that would kill most of the value but make it easy to keep in your display.
No find has value until you sell anyway.
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Reply To This Topic #28 Posted May 24, 2008, 02:18:24 PM |
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thanks to all for hellping me out. got to say its my best find ever. thrilled to have it on the banner.pbk your so right ,the hook was on the back.is there any value to it? again thanks to all, this site is the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hh, bobby
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Reply To This Topic #29 Posted May 24, 2008, 02:33:50 PM |
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You really need to find out if this is a Civl War or Post Civil War buckle.... believe me it can really make a difference in price!!! If it is Civil War it could easily go for $2500+ I stronly suggest that you post a photo on the www.nvrha.com web site. You may get an invite to another web site called Civil War Fake Busters.... the fake busters deal in only CW relics and in either case one of these sites will be able to tell you for certain if it is CW or post CW!!! Please let us know the results of the post at these sites!!! |
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Posts: 3306
Texas
Detector used: Minlabe SE, ace 250, fisher 1280x
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Reply To This Topic #30 Posted May 24, 2008, 03:10:01 PM |
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Wow Im impressed if your gonna find a plate thats the one to find
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Reply To This Topic #31 Posted May 24, 2008, 03:20:17 PM |
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thanks tex, got it at the place i was telling everyone at the hunt. found 3 indains and another store token today. bobby
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