Posts: 68
Minnesota
Detector used: Sovereign GT
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Posted May 23, 2008, 03:50:34 PM |
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Found this cross today, unfortunately it is cracked and about to break. I probably did it trying to get it out of the hard clay.
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Posts: 100
WISCONSIN
Detector used: MINELAB GP EXTREME 3500, TROY X5, WHITES MXT
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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted May 23, 2008, 09:59:01 PM |
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She's a dandy! Nice Find!
You also have one of the best hallmarks in RC. 1767-1809. Robert Cruickshank, one of Montreals finest silversmiths of the time. Awesome piece of history. A center piece of any collection..Patina
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"One can feel he outlives another, twice his age, by living life in momentary time"...Patina
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Posts: 4293
Western Colorado
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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted May 23, 2008, 10:02:52 PM |
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Scrounger,
Fandamtastic find!
Always wanted one of those.
Thanks for the peek.
Thom
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"Know Guns, Know Freedom.
No Guns, No Freedom."
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TREASURE EACH DAY!! Posts: 5813
N. California
Detector used: Tesoro: Lobo Super Traq & Silver uMax
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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted May 23, 2008, 10:31:28 PM |
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Oh my goodness, what a nice piece of trade jewelry. Bent or broken, it's still an incredible find. Great work, congrats.
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Posts: 4232
ENGLAND
Detector used: CORTES
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted May 23, 2008, 10:51:04 PM |
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3 replies & the banner  WELL DONE, GREAT START TO TNET  |
TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!
'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds
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Posts: 750
New Zealand
Detector used: Minelab Sovereign GT
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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted May 23, 2008, 11:55:15 PM |
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Very nice treasure imascrounger
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Posts: 1234
Tn
Detector used: Garrett GTA500
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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted May 24, 2008, 01:54:38 AM |
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WoW!!! Way to go.  |
Man that is born of a woman is of few days and full of trouble ...Job CH. 14
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Looking for that ONE find. Posts: 4121
South Central Kansas
Detector used: T2 and X-Terra 70
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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted May 24, 2008, 12:30:47 PM |
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WOW Now that is a great find. If it could only talk.
Burdie
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted May 24, 2008, 01:42:00 PM |
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Outstanding find!!! |
"A culture truly grows great when old men plant trees in who's shade they know they will never sit"
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Posts: 648
SW Michigan
Detector used: Ace 250
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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted May 24, 2008, 06:20:55 PM |
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Very nice relic, Scrounger! I recently saw a large trade cross in a museum in Windsor, ONT. and could only imagine the thrill at finding one. WTG |
Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you shall always long to return. - Leornardo Da Vinci
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Posts: 1062
Hudson Falls, NY
Detector used: White's Spectrum XLT---Tinytec Ultraluxe probe
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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted May 24, 2008, 07:26:48 PM |
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It is a nice cross....congrats Cheers! Dugholes  |
If you want to view paradise, simply look around and view it------Willy Wonka
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Posts: 221
Martinsburg, WV
Detector used: Minelab EXP II w/ Sunray X-1 probe, 15" WOT coil,Sunray x-12 coil, Sunray Stealth X-5 coil, Fisher CZ 7a pro w/Sunray probe
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted May 24, 2008, 08:06:25 PM |
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This is the first time I have ever heard of a trade cross. Please elaborate.
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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted May 25, 2008, 04:08:50 AM |
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Sweet Find!! Beautiful Piece!! |
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Posts: 2280
Good 'Ol USA /
Detector used: Garrett Ace 250 of course
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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted May 25, 2008, 04:16:25 PM |
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HH, S_F 
CRH TOTAL? That’s just a number and mines UNLISTED.
Swing and dig folks, swing and dig, because according to the late, great Mel Fisher, TODAY COULD BE THE DAY
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Posts: 3336
Somewhere over the rainbow...oh wait, that was Kermit...just here!
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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted May 25, 2008, 04:28:04 PM |
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Awesome find...trade silver is #1 on my list of most wanted! Congrats on the great find!
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"No, no, no...dig up stupid!" Chief Clancy Wiggam
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show me tha money!!!! Posts: 1147
El Paso, TX
Detector used: White's MXT baby!!!
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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted May 25, 2008, 11:09:45 PM |
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bear, a few months ago a member posted his trade finds , alot of silver and whatnots, very cool find!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted May 26, 2008, 04:51:45 AM |
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Very nice piece of history! Banner also! Fantastic!
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Vaquero ,cibola
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Gypsyheart~ Queen of Rust Posts: 12658
Hardscrabble Bluff, Missouri
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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted May 26, 2008, 05:16:15 AM |
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Wonderful Find! I would really hunt your site well...it could have been a trading site......I found some interesting tidbits related to your piece....Pieces with R.C.'s mark are highly prized.
According to existing records, a huge volume of trade silver pieces was created each year. A partial list of Cruikshank's silver orders from the year 1801 shows in excess of 49,000 pieces produced, including 16,000 orders for small brooches, 5,000 for large brooches, and 3,000 for pairs of earbobs.
Information on the barter value of individual pieces—and on trade silver in general—is difficult to find, but the papers of Sir William Johnson, Albany, N.Y., 1891, cite some trading values. (Silver-to-pelt values differed according to trading post, so these values apply only to New York.) The papers list large silver armbands as the trade equivalent of four large beavers or bucks. Silver brooches were worth one raccoon each, large crosses (up to 5.5 in.) had a trade value of one small beaver or medium buck, and earbobs were worth one doe.
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Whoever said SEEK and Ye Shall Find....evidently hasn't used my detector.....
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Posts: 469
Detector used: TESORO SILVER / HEADHUNTER PIRATE
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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted May 26, 2008, 08:13:37 AM |
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no offense folks,but please reply to imascrounger as imascrounger.not scrounger because i am scrounger,here on t net. glad to know theres another tnetter thats as pround of scroungin as i am.look like ur the famous one too.as i will prob never make the banner.kudos on ur great find.
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SPINNER VALUE KEY: RED is METAL DETECT.LT LT BLUE is AUCTION. DARK BLUE is GOLD MINING.GREEN is THRIFT STORE.YELLOW is GEM GRUBBIN.PINK is COIN ROLL HUNT.BROWN is BEACH AND SHALLOW WATER HUNT.ORANGE JUNK PICK AND OR METAL SCRAPPING
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Posts: 68
Minnesota
Detector used: Sovereign GT
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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted May 26, 2008, 08:46:20 AM |
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no offense folks,but please reply to imascrounger as imascrounger.not scrounger because i am scrounger,here on t net. glad to know theres another tnetter thats as pround of scroungin as i am.look like ur the famous one too.as i will prob never make the banner.kudos on ur great find.
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Posts: 68
Minnesota
Detector used: Sovereign GT
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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted May 26, 2008, 09:13:29 AM |
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Thanks everybody! No idea how this ended up in the banner but thank you, what an honor. This site I am working was a Northwest Company post site that was established in 1794. It is right in a persons yard of their home, hope I don't wear out my welcome before I am done. I will say this about the silver I have found it is very thin and can be easily damaged. The cross is about as thick as construction paper, in todays world it would be laughed off as cheaply made. Here is this mornings stuff. Jim
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sirdigsalottacrappa Posts: 105
st. joseph missouri
Detector used: old school whites cion master 6/db and a bounty hunter prospector dx
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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted May 26, 2008, 11:53:53 PM |
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i live in st. joseph missouri that is where the french trapper joseph robidiux started the town and had hid trade post i am trying to find out where on the river it was and he had 1 before that it was inland away from the riverlooking fo rthat one to
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Posts: 200
Wisconsin
Detector used: Whites XLT & Whites Beachhunter
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Reply To This Topic #22 Posted May 28, 2008, 10:15:32 AM |
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Great job Mnlineman!!! See, once you get started it's easy!
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da book worm--researcher Posts: 4777
callahan,fl
Detector used: current ace 250 --( BH also) used many others too
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Reply To This Topic #23 Posted May 28, 2008, 11:33:54 AM |
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most excellant find -- plus you've learn a important lesson about rushed / or non careful digging --some items are very fragile -- great find -- Ivan
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Posts: 495
S.E. Lower Michigan
Detector used: Minelab Explorer XS , Fisher 1266 - X w/hothead
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Reply To This Topic #24 Posted May 29, 2008, 04:02:45 PM |
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Awesome find. There is a member of our club that found 3, yes I said 3! Trade silver crosses at one site, plus a trade silver thimbal that was packed with 35 wampums in it. He has many, many blue, red, white, pink beads they are as small as canary seeds. The wampums ar tubular pieces of black coral with holes drilled throught the length of them. He also has found some type of tool that has flint or chert laced onto either wood or bone handle with sinews. These were all found in a huge firepit area where 5 to 6 foot of topsoil was removed for watermain replacement. The area is in a county park near a canal that empties into the Detroit River, north of Lake Erie. He was advised by Christies that the crosses he found are worth up to and maybe more than $50,000.00 each They are Cruikshanks
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FAIL TO PLAN, PLAN TO FAIL........
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show me tha money!!!! Posts: 1147
El Paso, TX
Detector used: White's MXT baby!!!
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Reply To This Topic #25 Posted May 29, 2008, 06:38:43 PM |
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you know the link to that topic with the 3 crosses?
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Posts: 495
S.E. Lower Michigan
Detector used: Minelab Explorer XS , Fisher 1266 - X w/hothead
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Reply To This Topic #26 Posted May 29, 2008, 06:51:52 PM |
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I don't believe he ever posted it on our website, but if you go to http://www.greatlakesmetaldetecting.com and search our monthly meeting, finds of the month, I think it may be in 2005 or 2006 photos, you may find pics of his case with the items pictured in it. |
FAIL TO PLAN, PLAN TO FAIL........
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Posts: 381
Cincinnati, Ohio
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Reply To This Topic #27 Posted May 30, 2008, 05:38:05 AM |
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Wow, all I can say is WOW |
It's addicting, but it's pleasing!
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Posts: 495
S.E. Lower Michigan
Detector used: Minelab Explorer XS , Fisher 1266 - X w/hothead
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Reply To This Topic #28 Posted May 30, 2008, 05:43:36 AM |
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Also forgot to mention, the reason these particular crosses are so valuable is because of the style and pattern, that there were previously only 10 to have been known to exist.
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FAIL TO PLAN, PLAN TO FAIL........
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Posts: 200
Wisconsin
Detector used: Whites XLT & Whites Beachhunter
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Reply To This Topic #29 Posted May 30, 2008, 02:29:14 PM |
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My friend found one exactly like it a year or so ago, then last year he found four crosses with "RC" and "JO" marks. You may have been misinformed about the price of such crosses. A small "RC" cross, of about 1 & 1/4 inches will not get $50,000 at Christies. I don't want to rain on your parade MNLineman, just speaking the facts. It is a great find and deserves to be on the banner!!!
SteveO post your little one.
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Posts: 68
Minnesota
Detector used: Sovereign GT
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