Montana Jim Metal Detects?

I went metal detecting...

I found some stuff...

I took some pics...



























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Neat finds Jim..is that  a lighter??? and the other doo dads are cool looking...and here I thought ya just sat on your cycle LOL

Nice Match case and like the button, too!
 
Great digs!

Bootsy, it's a match safe... crappy silver plated - Victorian.

There ya go... true metal knows 

WTG jim ! looks like a great day and with silver to  congrats 

Great finds! And thanks for the help i.d.ing my daughters coin!

[And thanks for the help i.d.ing my daughters coin]

Thanks everyone... 

Great finds! And thanks for the help i.d.ing my daughters coin!

Remember... I got close... not an exact ID... Awesome coin though! You can trust Don's opinion.

Button,Bullet and some cool find's....Just how I thought it was going to look like.Match safe is pretty cool.Glad you had time to get out Jim.....Great pic's as alway's 

Any info on the button MJ ? It looks pretty old.

Definately like the button!!

Nice dig's Jim,you allways find some realy cool stuff !  That penny is in great shape for a zlincon !   

Thanks everyone...    

Any info on the button MJ ? It looks pretty old.

Yes...

Eagle Infantry Button

General Issue Brass (no gilt)

Backmark:  "HORSTMANN'S / NY. & PHI. " dm between two rings of dots, probably Scovill ca 1860.

If I'm not mistaken Jim you should have a pretty descent Button collection going by now. Sure would like to see it some time. 

If I'm not mistaken Jim you should have a pretty descent Button collection going by now. Sure would like to see it some time. 

Yuppers... I've got a few... follow the link, I posted some pics here:

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,162774.0.html

Sooooo, someone does find it worthy to metal detect in Mon-tan-ya.

Kirk

Thanks for that link Jim, those are some truly remarkable collections there. 

Hey Jim nice finds. I can imagine it was a great day to get out I bet. Love Montana.

Burdie

Wha?!?  No big sky?!?  No big talk?!?  No Jimtana pictures?!?   

It looks like you had a productive hunt, Jimmers.  Pretty good for just the scouting mission for the rest of your detecting season. 

The brooch is unique.  The matchsafe is great.  Those square nails are Sup-er Sex-ee!!

Montana Jim  impresses us all!

Jim you handsome guy you   these are great digs   love the match case > I would have thought it would be sterling , so I guess the snows gone > hope to see more finds and pics   of YOU  

REAL NICE finds Jim.... Like the match case especially!

Sooooo, someone does find it worthy to metal detect in Mon-tan-ya.

Kirk

The western Indian Wars not your thing?

Nice stuff Jim. It is a neat grouping. The early and gaudy Victorian jewelry appearing with the military stuff is interesting. Do you think it was an officers wife or a floozy?

Maybe an officer's wife... or, possibly a farmers wife in the subsequent years... there are some other possibilities that I'm sure do NOT include floozies. I've found other opulent junque there too and I've always assumed officer's wives or farmer's family. The area holds some dump finds as well through he 1930s or so (farm/house dump) as the land has been worked a few times in the last 130ish years.  

Thanks again everyone...   Especially the ladies... 

Nick - I know yer busting chops...   

That brooch had to be lost by a Floozy.  Does it have a Floozy backmark?  

I think it's GREAT that you got out, Jim--and added some more great finds to your collection!  I bet the weather there is quite personable--unlike the 90 degree heat here in 'ole Kentucky.

It made me Very happy to see a post from you--and yet another Eagle Button for that Massive collection of yours.  


Regards,


Buckles

That brooch had to be lost by a Floozy.  Does it have a Floozy backmark?  

I think it's GREAT that you got out, Jim--and added some more great finds to your collection!  I bet the weather there is quite personable--unlike the 90 degree heat here in 'ole Kentucky.

It made me Very happy to see a post from you--and yet another Eagle Button for that Massive collection of yours.  


Regards,


Buckles

The weather was agreeable... 70s or so.  No skeeters till about 9:30pm.  I only hunted from about 6:00 to 8:00 and then was accousted by a passerbyr (rare in this area) who wanted to chat about detecting and indian relics.  He was a pleasent conversationist and I enjoyed the chat - which unfortunetly lasted over an hour.  The sun started to drop around 9:30 pm and I headed home...

Next time I'll get a whole day in.

The eagle button was not a disappointment, and the suspender/garter clamp was an eyeball find! 

That brooch had to be lost by a Floozy.  Does it have a Floozy backmark?  

I think it's GREAT that you got out, Jim--and added some more great finds to your collection!  I bet the weather there is quite personable--unlike the 90 degree heat here in 'ole Kentucky.

It made me Very happy to see a post from you--and yet another Eagle Button for that Massive collection of yours.  


Regards,


Buckles

The weather was agreeable... 70s or so.  No skeeters till about 9:30pm.  I only hunted from about 6:00 to 8:00 and then was accousted by a passerbyr (rare in this area) who wanted to chat about detecting and indian relics.  He was a pleasent conversationist and I enjoyed the chat - which unfortunetly lasted over an hour.  The sun started to drop around 9:30 pm and I headed home...

Next time I'll get a whole day in.

The eagle button was not a disappointment, and the suspender/garter clamp was an eyeball find! 

Awesome, Jim!  I'm glad you're so blessed with the weather up there. 

Remember--wherever there were Armies, the Ladies of Ill-Repute were never far behind.     Some of those may be relics from the World's Oldest Profession...


 

Really great relics jim!!!!!! wtg on the cool digs.Keep it up bud!! good luck with the rest.

Cool finds, Jim.  Glad you got to get out and hunt.  I like the match box best. 

Nicky, sexy guys find sexy things.  Just a tip.   

That brooch had to be lost by a Floozy.  Does it have a Floozy backmark?  

I think it's GREAT that you got out, Jim--and added some more great finds to your collection!  I bet the weather there is quite personable--unlike the 90 degree heat here in 'ole Kentucky.

It made me Very happy to see a post from you--and yet another Eagle Button for that Massive collection of yours.  


Regards,


Buckles

The weather was agreeable... 70s or so.  No skeeters till about 9:30pm.  I only hunted from about 6:00 to 8:00 and then was accousted by a passerbyr (rare in this area) who wanted to chat about detecting and indian relics.  He was a pleasent conversationist and I enjoyed the chat - which unfortunetly lasted over an hour.  The sun started to drop around 9:30 pm and I headed home...

Next time I'll get a whole day in.

The eagle button was not a disappointment, and the suspender/garter clamp was an eyeball find! 

Awesome, Jim!  I'm glad you're so blessed with the weather up there. 

Remember--wherever there were Armies, the Ladies of Ill-Repute were never far behind.     Some of those may be relics from the World's Oldest Profession...


 

You know that generally I'm reluctant to talk about my hunting spots - but...  

While "ladies" being around soldiers was common, this may not be true in this case, I'm not sure how they would have been recieved here.  The officers (all white) brought the wives, and the single soldiers were mostly if not all Buffalo Soldiers - and racism was running high here even amonst the settlers the troops were here to protect.  There is one case of the commanding officer giving a trooper over to the local crowd to be hung for a crime of theft.  

So, I'm not sure I'm comfortable saying the "ladies" were here in enough numbers to account for the feminine items I do find.

You know that generally I'm reluctant to talk about my hunting spots - but...  

While "ladies" being around soldiers was common, this may not be true in this case, I'm not sure how they would have been recieved here.  The officers (all white) brought the wives, and the single soldiers were mostly if not all Buffalo Soldiers - and racism was running high here even amonst the settlers the troops were here to protect.  There is one case of the commanding officer giving a trooper over to the local crowd to be hung for a crime of theft.  

So, I'm not sure I'm comfortable saying the "ladies" were here in enough numbers to account for the feminine items I do find.

Cool!  I bet those guys felt VERY LUCKY to have their wives there.

Maybe those were not Floozy Relics but rather Sexy Relics (if you know what I mean...)  Bow-Chicka-Bow-Wow.   

Hey Jim thanks for cleaning up Montana but save some things for me!

The weather has been great huh!

Donna

Holy Crappe!   What made you decide to pull that detector out of the closet?

Jim, that stuff is great!

Take care & get out again soon ,
watercolor

Jim---Ya done good.
     I like all that stuff ya found

Oh dang, double dang, Jim, did I miss your sale on rusted nails...  sorry da debil made me do it.

Oh dang, double dang, Jim, did I miss your sale on rusted nails...  sorry da debil made me do it.

LOL... yea those rusty nails were kinda popular!    LOL

Everything looks great Jim! I especially like the button. I would would say that was a successful hunt especially if Mona and Carolina thinks your good lookin' and sexy.    

It does to me seem quite interesting that so many soldiers seem to have made the trip to Montana only to lose buttons. 

Jim,
Great to see a post from you again.   A short story with a sweet ending. 
Congrats on the finds, and especially the button.
-MM-

love the finds Jim, is that a 45-70 bullet & shell casing? I found some 45-85 casings last weekend, not much info on them though, great button and match case

love the finds Jim, is that a 45-70 bullet & shell casing? I found some 45-85 casings last weekend, not much info on them though, great button and match case

Yes.  I've found literaly pounds of .45-70 lead, and the casings too.

Hope your saving those pounds, cause that woiuld all be brass which at todays market price would be worth more than battery money. 

Hope your saving those pounds, cause that woiuld all be brass which at todays market price would be worth more than battery money. 

Last time I checked locally it was $1.10 (ish) a pound for shell casings.

$1.93 a pound is what I get from searching but it was just over $2.00 
http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_...893/Brass-value-slides-below-2.html

Jim, that is a great collection of relics.  If you talked, back there a ways in topicland, about how you researched this site, I missed it.  You sure 'nailed' it, though!

I like the .45-70, but you can't use 'em for guitar slides.  I can barely get a cut-down .50 casing over my little finger.

The match safe is great.  They had some on Aunt Eek's Roadshow a while back. 

But I really want to hear more floozy stories. 
[Leo Kottke sings "Louise" in background, "Deadwood" DVD at the ready]

Pop said that the 1923 Fife Lake, Mich. Parade of Virgins was cancelled. 
One was sick, and the other refused to march alone.

Jim,

Those are some awesome finds.  I love the match safe & button & the brooch.  You gonna have to get another display case real soon. 

  RR

Good stuff ther Montana, thanks for sharing 

nice old button and other relics....

Nice finds, jim. I see the snow melted up there That lighter is nice. Too bad it's damaged. And the button is .....? Don't know about buttons, but is it Custer Era?

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Nice Digs Jim!  Love that Eagle and the bullet too.  Is that a Shaler or a .40-.70......The Shaler's over here seperate into 3 pieces...

Jim ,outstanding digs ! You rock!!!

Thanks for looking kids!

Jim, that is a great collection of relics.  If you talked, back there a ways in topicland, about how you researched this site, I missed it.  You sure 'nailed' it, though!

It's an Western Indian Wars era Montana Infantry location.  I've been hunting it on and off for years.   I don't talk much about it here. 

Nice finds, jim. I see the snow melted up there That lighter is nice. Too bad it's damaged. And the button is .....? Don't know about buttons, but is it Custer Era?

The lighter is actually just a "match case" - pre-pocket lighter technology

The button, as best I can guess, is 1860(ish) based on the back mark.  Pre Civil War actually, so if I dated it correctly, it made it all the way through the American Civil War (1861 - 1865) and well into the Indian War (post 1866 sometime...) era.   Thus, with General Custer being part of the CW and Indian wars, up till 1876 anyways... I'd have to say it is a button from the Custer Era.

Nice Digs Jim!  Love that Eagle and the bullet too.  Is that a Shaler or a .40-.70......The Shaler's over here seperate into 3 pieces...

I'm sure it is a .45-70 government as the infantry here all carried springfield carbines.