Here it is!

  WHEW!  Ss, you asked a "HEAVY" question; re. Vandals (aka VisiGoths from Germany & and other "slav" countries... ie., PAGANS), and Bro. Sir Francis Bacon.    HA!  Starting with Bro. Bacon... he wrote NEW ATLANTIS (aka NEW JERSALEM)... ALSO responsible for
MANY ciphers/codes, and is stated to be the person who King James asked to do the H.B. for the
"great unwashed" (common ppl); he PROBABLY did it, and put his BACONIAN CODE in it; hence, what appears to be a JEWISH BIBLE CODE.    NOW!  The VANDALS (aka PAGANS) "sacked" Rome, etc. "taking back" SACRED ITEMS that were taken from the TEMPLE; VANDALS are ethnically
related to the ORIGINAL Israel.     VANDALS became a "sea-faring" ppl, MUCH like Vikings, Templar
Fleet, Pirates, etc. NOW!  the TEMPLE is to be rebuilt, HERE in NEW JERUSALEM!    I'm getting
"goose bumps" writing this; AMERICA, USA, NEW ATLANTIS, NEW JERUSALEM.   YOU may find a
"empty" VAULT... when the ACTUALITY is ... it is the ARK in which the H.S. is to reside!    LAWD
GAWD A'MIGHTY!   The REALITY of a "empty" VAULT, is the ACTUALITY of the LIVING G*D!

Rebel - thanks much for reaffirming some of my thoughts on this.  I have come really far for a "non-initiate", haven't I?

KK - I really don't know what you are referring to.  The only "Christ" to come, after the crucifixion and before Jesus and His army from Heaven come back to fight evil and establish His 1000 Year Kingdom (the Second Coming, as many refer to it) is the person referred to by many as the "Antichrist" in Prophecy.  I am not aware of this "two-Second Comings" scenario you are referring to???  Please enlighten me on this.   I am afraid you might be tricked that the so-called Antichrist (which is to rule before Jesus returns) will be Christ.  PLEASE DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THIS FALSE CHRIST - FOR YOUR SOUL'S SAKE!  Many FALSE PROPHETS are teaching that the coming "Anti-Christ" will be Christ - THIS IS NOT TRUE ACCORDING TO WHAT I HAVE STUDIED IN SCRIPTURE!  

Behold he cometh with clouds...2nd coming

You are referring to his 3rd coming, Rev 19 on a white horse, with the saints with him, also on white horses.

How many times does it talk about the coming of the Son of man? And if you'll look, every single time it says Son of man it's talking about, or directly to, a prophet. In the Millennium he is Son of David. Same Christ.

   THIS, I don't know; you say, you have a HARD time getting in... MAYBE, you are NOT supposed to.    Like the Ark of the Covenant (or... MAYBE, where it is inside), the POWER may "blow you away"...    Are YOU ready for the NEXT Pentecost?   Be careful... be VERY careful!
The "legend" is... touching the ARK will kill you; touch the Walls of the VAULT; do you feel it VIBRATING?  Hear it HUMMING? NOW... for MORE restless days, and sleepless nights.

I really don't mean this to argue, but if you're waiting on the return of Pentecost, it's already returned.

Swiftsearcher, have you ever read about, or watched the video's of Ron Wyatt, who claimed to have found the Ark of the covenant? I don't agree with a lot of what Ron said, and I don't know what to think about him finding the Ark, but it was at least very interesting. It was once on Youtube...don't know if it's still there.

Behold he cometh with clouds...2nd coming

You are referring to his 3rd coming, Rev 19 on a white horse, with the saints with him, also on white horses.

How many times does it talk about the coming of the Son of man? And if you'll look, every single time it says Son of man it's talking about, or directly to, a prophet. In the Millennium he is Son of David. Same Christ.

KK
I was not referring to the Day of Pentecost - I was referring to the return of Christ to establish his 1000 Year Kingdom on Earth, as mentioned in Biblical Prophecy.  Your belief is different about this Coming of Christ than mine.  That is why we have so many Christian Denominations, as people place different meanings on Scripture.  The way I believe it is that Jesus will come back with his Army of Heaven (in clouds, or UFO's as we know them today) and defend us, when we are about to be annihilated by the evil ones and there is no hope (George Washington also had this vision of America - interesting and scary, if any of you want to Google it).  He will then establish His 1000 Year Kingdom on Earth.  We can agree to disagree on this one.  

I will say that Revelation is "tricky" in that it skips around in its time frame.  For instance, Chapter 12 is about the Fall of Satan and the Angels (Stars) and the Israelites and Christ being born.  Also, as in my studying of Prophecy, though I believe a LOT has been revealed to me by THE EVER LIVING GOD (including the date of Jesus' Second Coming), there are Verses I do not understand as of yet.  If you will remember, it is stated that the Prophecies will only be revealed when the time is right.  It seems, at least from my study of Prophecy in the Bible, that more and more is being revealed as I go along, but some is still a mystery (which I believe is THE EVER LIVING GOD's method of exposing Prophecy at the correct times).

As for the Ark of The Covenant, I have heard/read/and talked to people who claimed to have found it.  I even spoke to one man who claimed to have been with the team that found it in Jerusalem, underneath the Temple Mount.  He was the most convincing, as he told me this (without even knowing I believed in Anglo-Israelism):  He stated that the Jewish team had gotten Jewish persons, supposedly from the correct tribes and did all the preparations.  However, when they attempted to retrieve the Ark, they all perished.  Also, none of their cameras would work they sent in before attempting to retrieve the Ark as well.  After several of these Jewish persons died trying to retrieve the Ark and trying to retrieve the bodies of those killed, finally blond haired blue eyed people had to go inside and retrieve the bodies - and were NOT KILLED!  This is a believable story of the finding of the Ark to me.  Also, even though I believe the articles from the Temple are in America, I don't believe the Romans had stolen the Ark, as it was more than likely hidden very well for protection.  The articles Rome stole from the Temple, without the Ark of The Covenant, were then taken back by the Vandals (whom were Israelites) and would up in America.  For the record, I don't believe these articles consisted of the Ark of The Covenant however.

Rebel - I doubt the AOC would be at the vault, even if it does contain articles from the Temple (as stated above).  It might surprise me however.  I can feel no vibrations.  However, the "vault" is only one entrance to this large cave system.  According to the map on the face of the vault, there are three cache sites inside, with one being in the center of this huge rock formation and the other two being inside the main clift area, so IF the AOC was there, it would not be close enough to feel any vibrations from it.  As I posted before from Revelation, IF the Ark is still on Earth, it will be with Jesus before the end.  I believe, if it is on Earth now and is found, that an angel of THE EVER LIVING GOD would arrive to take it to its rightful place before the end (which would be GREAT for anyone finding it - to present it to an angel of THE EVER LIVING GOD, when the angel arrives in his cloud (UFO) to take the AOC to THE EVER LIVING GOD!).

KK
I was not referring to the Day of Pentecost - I was referring to the return of Christ to establish his 1000 Year Kingdom on Earth, as mentioned in Biblical Prophecy.  Your belief is different about this Coming of Christ than mine.  That is why we have so many Christian Denominations, as people place different meanings on Scripture.  The way I believe it is that Jesus will come back with his Army of Heaven (in clouds, or UFO's as we know them today) and defend us, when we are about to be annihilated by the evil ones and there is no hope (George Washington also had this vision of America - interesting and scary, if any of you want to Google it).  He will then establish His 1000 Year Kingdom on Earth.  We can agree to disagree on this one.  

I will say that Revelation is "tricky" in that it skips around in its time frame.  For instance, Chapter 12 is about the Fall of Satan and the Angels (Stars) and the Israelites and Christ being born.  Also, as in my studying of Prophecy, though I believe a LOT has been revealed to me by THE EVER LIVING GOD (including the date of Jesus' Second Coming), there are Verses I do not understand as of yet.  If you will remember, it is stated that the Prophecies will only be revealed when the time is right.  It seems, at least from my study of Prophecy in the Bible, that more and more is being revealed as I go along, but some is still a mystery (which I believe is THE EVER LIVING GOD's method of exposing Prophecy at the correct times).

As for the Ark of The Covenant, I have heard/read/and talked to people who claimed to have found it.  I even spoke to one man who claimed to have been with the team that found it in Jerusalem, underneath the Temple Mount.  He was the most convincing, as he told me this (without even knowing I believed in Anglo-Israelism):  He stated that the Jewish team had gotten Jewish persons, supposedly from the correct tribes and did all the preparations.  However, when they attempted to retrieve the Ark, they all perished.  Also, none of their cameras would work they sent in before attempting to retrieve the Ark as well.  After several of these Jewish persons died trying to retrieve the Ark and trying to retrieve the bodies of those killed, finally blond haired blue eyed people had to go inside and retrieve the bodies - and were NOT KILLED!  This is a believable story of the finding of the Ark to me.  Also, even though I believe the articles from the Temple are in America, I don't believe the Romans had stolen the Ark, as it was more than likely hidden very well for protection.  The articles Rome stole from the Temple, without the Ark of The Covenant, were then taken back by the Vandals (whom were Israelites) and would up in America.  For the record, I don't believe these articles consisted of the Ark of The Covenant however.

I was referring to what Rebel said about the returning of Pentecost.

From the way you describe it, that was Ron Wyatt you talked to.

Yes sir, we can agree to disagree, and I hope you find good things in the vault.

  Actually, KK... we are "chatting" about TWO different things... Pentecost is the down/out pouring of the HOLY SPIRIT (FATHER G*D).   YOU are "chatting" with Sws, about the 2nd "coming" of the Lord; we gotta get out of this religious theology "mode"; stop quibbling about "you know what", and get back to THE VAULT...

Actually, KK... we are "chatting" about TWO different things... Pentecost is the down/out pouring of the HOLY SPIRIT (FATHER G*D).   YOU are "chatting" with Sws, about the 2nd "coming" of the Lord; we gotta get out of this religious theology "mode"; stop quibbling about "you know what", and get back to THE VAULT...

Well, Rebel, I'm good with getting back to the fault, but you need something better than "you know what" and if you ever find it, you won't be ashamed of it.

BLUNTLY, I am not ashamed of ANYTHING.   Shortshack, I, and others were chatting about this sorta
thing, ONE person threatened to have our "dialogue" ("post") deleted... and it was.   Since then... I will NOT use the "G" word, the "B" word, or the "J" word, since it does offend some ppl, who are UNBELIEVERS.   The RELIGION sub-board was deleted for the very same reason.   BICKER, if YOU want... BUT! THIS "thread" is at risk... take it to the administrators, if YOU want.

BLUNTLY, I am not ashamed of ANYTHING.   Shortshack, I, and others were chatting about this sorta
thing, ONE person threatened to have our "dialogue" ("post") deleted... and it was.   Since then... I will NOT use the "G" word, the "B" word, or the "J" word, since it does offend some ppl, who are UNBELIEVERS.   The RELIGION sub-board was deleted for the very same reason.   BICKER, if YOU want... BUT! THIS "thread" is at risk... take it to the administrators, if YOU want.

Sorry, I shouldn't have said that. I'm not taking anything to the administrators. It's just that you seem to try to set the tone for this thread.

Okay, back to the vault.

I completely understand what Rebel was referring to - the outpouring of Pentecost from the Ark of The Covenant.  If you have seen Raiders of the Lost Ark, you will remember when this happened in the movie - the "Spirits" coming out and killing the people who looked upon the Ark.

The best way to get around using the J-Word is to call them Edomites, since they are from Esau and not Jacob!

KK, it was not the person you are referring to I spoke with.  The person I spoke with was a Treasure hunter/writer who was there, but was not the leader of the expedition.  I will have to Google the guy you are referring to and see if the stories match up.  If so, that would be even more proof than the Bible and tons of proof already that the True Israelites ARE the Anglo-Saxons (Until Jesus returns to prove to the World and make the Edomites our footstools!).

Rebel was answering a question I had asked.  I don't believe he was "setting the tone", but I do agree we better stick to the "vault", or things will be deleted by the mods. for being too Religious.

I completely understand what Rebel was referring to - the outpouring of Pentecost from the Ark of The Covenant.  If you have seen Raiders of the Lost Ark, you will remember when this happened in the movie - the "Spirits" coming out and killing the people who looked upon the Ark.

The best way to get around using the J-Word is to call them Edomites, since they are from Esau and not Jacob!

KK, it was not the person you are referring to I spoke with.  The person I spoke with was a Treasure hunter/writer who was there, but was not the leader of the expedition.  I will have to Google the guy you are referring to and see if the stories match up.  If so, that would be even more proof than the Bible and tons of proof already that the True Israelites ARE the Anglo-Saxons (Until Jesus returns to prove to the World and make the Edomites our footstools!).

Rebel was answering a question I had asked.  I don't believe he was "setting the tone", but I do agree we better stick to the "vault", or things will be deleted by the mods. for being too Religious.

Okay, but just one more thing. If the true Ark is not in Jerusalem, then how would anything that happened there be proof?

KK, this is an easy one.  I can refer back to the book of the "vault" for this answer - Numbers, the 4th book of the Bible.  If you are NOT from the Chosen Race/Tribe, you will die simply by viewing the Ark of The Covenant!  So, since the people who claim to be Israelites today are Edomites, they are NOT from the correct Race/Tribe.  Thus, they died in the presence of the Ark of The Covenant.  However, when the blond haired, blue-eyed True Israelites went in to get nearly 20 Edomite bodies out from the place of the Ark of The Covenant, they did NOT die, b/c they were the correct Race/Tribe of THE EVER LIVING GOD!  This explains why the modern country of Edomites in Israel do NOT want the Ark recovered and have sealed the entrance!

NUM 4:17 And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron saying,
NUM 4:18 Cut ye not off the tribe of the families of the Kohathites from among the Levites:
NUM 4:19 But thus do unto them, that they may live, and not die, when they approach unto the most holy things: Aaron and his sons shall go in, and appoint them every one to his service and to his burden:
NUM 4:20 But they shall not go in to see when the holy things are covered, lest they die.


Below is a quote from and link to a site I just found on this subject.  And, yes, the person I spoke with was involved with this finding.  And, according to him, the ONLY people who went inside that didn't die were Anglo-Saxon Israelites!  The Edomites who went in ALL died and had to be carried out by Anglo-Saxon Israelites.  This would expose the Edomite LIE they have told the World, if exposed.  However, as Jesus states in the Bible, their LIE will be exposed when he returns to fight for the True Israelites and establish His 1000 Year Kingdom on Earth - The Second Coming of Jesus to Earth!

Let me say this, and this is a touchy point and I try to avoid it. There's some 14 to 16 individuals that have died because they have tried to in some way to manipulate this," he explained without providing the details.

"Some have had to do with withdrawing a permit and others have had to do with, shall we say, trying to actually get in there and move the furnishings. So I believe that God has adequately demonstrated, at least to me, that He is not going to allow this to be moved. I do know this, and that is that nothing will happen to this that is not in God's plan because this is the most important part of the plan of salvation that has been carried out. This is it, the heart and soul of it. There's no way he's going to allow people, demons, or any other forces to interfere with it being done exactly as he wants it done," he stated.

http://www.bibleplus.org/discoveries/Ark_Found.htm

But I thought you said before that you believed the Ark to be hidden in America, and not in Israel.

What I said was that items from the Second Temple, taken by Rome in 70 AD and then retaken by the Vandals, I believe are in America. 

As for the Ark I don't know where it is 100% (if I did, I would be there excavating ).  I simply stated what you and a friend told me about the Ark supposedly being found in Israel and stated, that, if true, this would prove beyond a doubt that Anglo-Saxons are True Israel, as they were supposedly the only ones that could enter the room without death and had to recover the dead Edomite bodies from the room when Wyatt found the AOC. 

Without looking back through my posts, I am almost certain I NEVER stated the AOC is in America - only that I believe the items from the Second Temple, taken by the Romans in 70 AD should be here. 

Sorry, I misunderstood. You did say the 70 AD Temple. I wasn't thinking straight.

That's fine - I do type fast (and a lot) sometimes!

   MEANWHILE, back at the "Vault"... question was asked how "B" Code was used on BOULDERS; Sws has it correct, I think.   The PROBLEM is "B" books are "sometimes" the SAME letter, and MY guess is, what looks like someone's initials MAY be the beginning letter or two of
one of the OT  books in the KJB due to the "legends" of King Solomon's Temple.   I think it is the KJV, due to the BACONIAN CODE, which MAY have been utilized, too... Bro. Francis Bacon, was requested by King James to "do" a "B" for the common ppl, who could read.   Elizabeth Friedman researched the Baconian Code, years ago, for the FEDS, so...    "Google" FRANCIS BACON & THE 1611 KJV BIBLE (5,020,000 "hits").    (SUNNY out).

Well boys, we have touched on the REAL Treasure here, to me and in my opinion Jesus is a global treasure! ...so why would anyone want to delete that? Treasure of any kind should be allowed and opinions expressed. if I know these admins they just don't want a bunch of name calling here.  The period of Political Correctness is now past and they won’t catch much flak!
To add to the treasures...they do greatly error not knowing—study to show your selves approved...the ark is in Heaven an apostle saw it...let you read to find out which one!

Swiftsearcher: Open the vault dude! Or PM me I’ll come down and do it for you! Will sign a nondisclosure too…so you have all the rights to the book…I just want to be helpful here and see this important find….hey have you ever got any ore samples from the area or mine?

The theory about the Anglos being the only ones that could look upon the Ark....sorry, but that could not be correct by the Bible ...if you read were Israel lost it to the Canaanites they had possession of it....and when the Israelites got it back it tilted, a common guy...(no doubt an Anglo) died for touching it...The Canaanites had it for quite a while they didn't die after looking on it...are you going to try to say those evil people were Anglos too? They did however get cancer in their privates!  I am not trying to be mean here just keeping everyone on an even kneel.
 I have been reading Wyatt and his associates investigations since they first hit the internet…..he found even more than most people know about… what a guy! Imagine finding the mercy seat and with the blood on it and then finding the crack in the rock right where it dripped down thru/under the place Christ was crucified?  It blessed me when I read it! Praise the Lord! He was a blessed man! Did you ever read where he was visited by the Angle when he found it..Wow!

Swiftsearcher:
Please don’t be so sensitive about the doubters! I agree with a lot of your pictures, finds etc. I also find some questionable…that is what these forums are suppose to be about. I can show you several items similar to what you have found near Grayson KY and I’ll take some more pics and post them later on. I want to encourage you to go ahead and post so we can all benefit. Hey when I post my stuff it won’t stop me if you criticize it!  Now on to a few things I would like to discuss…
First is that hammer…I am a machinist believe me that thing is no more than 100 years old. It isn’t one Swift brought with him. And that’s Ok it doesn’t have any effect on your credibility and does not make me doubt the rest of most of what you have posted!  That is not key to your mines! Let it go!
The fact is they could have poured directly into a sandstone hole (sorry to disagree with others) all they would have had to do was pour a release agent into the hole first…cornmeal would work fine…it would carbonize when the molten silver hit it and provide for a release…and after you poured the silver all you had to do was stick a small piece of silver bar into the hot stuff let it cool and grab the piece added and pull it out. 

I previously posted the following that is related to this:
First …the version of the legend I have indicated Swift made English Crowns…how about yours? The government arrested him for counterfeiting…had to be English …….they had no jurisdiction over the French coinage/counterfeiting. Trade coins with serrated edges are a great idea and no doubt used…but the coins I saw English and French did not have serrations. So, one step of the striking process that would create friction and made striking difficult eliminated.  I know most of you have heard of the Spangle, Sprinkle, and other (real) counterfeit coins which some of them were very crude but others quite good. All were made using the striking methodology. A good friend of mine (now deceased who got me into spending years looking for the Swift Mines) found a set of dies in the 1970s near the Grayson reservoir. They were dies (not molds) of English crowns and were loaned to the U of K. As far as I know they were never returned…could still be on a shelf there? Oh, the UK people did an analysis of the material they were wrapped in….Bear tallow/fat covered and the wrapping was a bear skin….time period was possibly 1750 to 1770.
This was when I first started and have lost a topo that showed where he found the dies, a carved DAS with 1763(Swifts wife’s name was Desiree Ann Swift), two monument rocks, the furnace, Buffalo rock, Light house, haystack rock etc. (I helped him out by identifying an area of 40 acres that fit the description of where they kept the horses.  The 40 acres was not in a hollow by the way, but up on top of a cliffy area surrounded by rivers and creeks with a very narrow opening.
 I just recently found the place where they had buried four kegs of coins (someone got there before me though) ---most Swift hunters are way out of their league…these guys were pure genius in how they hid them... Almost in plain sight! Within two miles of this location I found Spanish words carved in a rock, another large rock (turtle shaped with a map on it that may be Spanish or Indian. So the Swift party may have found old Spanish workings or the Shawnee may have shown them where some of their forefathers were in slaved to work for the Spanish. Three were a small cache of Spanish coins dating in the 1600s found within four miles of this area. Good news is I can show you the places he marked…I think he found the general location of the upper mines.  I can show you four of them….all but one are buried….and unlike others hear I can provide the ore samples! Anyone got the funds to invest to start mining? I have a geologist ready to help with the claim. I teach college (CAD) and so this type of funding is out of my ball park.
Sorry for getting off topic there. But they definitely struck the coins. They didn’t have to have all the equipment to “mill” them. An apparatus with a cast iron frame could have been placed in pieces on multiple mule loads, reassembled, used and then of course hidden…why take it back when you intended to return and make more coins? I am not a coin person, couldn’t make the coin die, but I could make a coin stamping rig that just needed a 5 lbs. sledge to operate it and two men. Make at least 30 coins an hour….all done on technology older than Swift.  One station would cut the coins to size, the next actually
Now as to the age of some things in KY and Ohio they go back to Viking times….I can show you where Squire and Davis (Ancient Monuments of the Mississippi Valley) found a compound that was 3 miles around. I went there….it is awesome and you get a weird feeling there.  The Smithsonian people were there several times. The place is situated on a high plateau with almost vertical sides. An older farmer friend that lives at the foot of it said researchers’ visiting explained to him that the Vikings had a good strong hold in Ohio and KY but the Indians hated them because they ate yes ate the Indians! Not hate but ate as in cannibalism! You can also find one of these structures near Louisville I think. They were very well advanced. The walls that were around the one near Chillicothe were originally 19 feet tall made of blocks of iron like materials. They had 5-8 furnaces that smelted iron there. I have a picture of one of the weapons they used…it’s a conical shaped IRON part that has a hollow inside(looks a lot like a modern artillery shell)…they laced a sharpened sapling on the inside and shot them from giant cross bows! This was supposed to be around 1000 AD! So yes there have been other people in here. The Indians all got together and wiped them out…Indians traditions say that there were several tribes involved and it took as many as ten thousand of them to defeat this one fort! Many huge skeletons have been found in the area that are over 9-11 feet tall and whose skulls have room to fit a modern person’s whole head inside! And they have two rows of teeth! I know….off topic again but its relative to the other people that were in the KY area! Oh the Smithsonian people called them Norsemen…hmmm aren’t they related to the Vandals?

One last thing did you say you have a pic of a Swift made coin? Sure would like to see that! PM it to me if youdon't wantto post.

Did you ever read where he was visited by the Angle when he found it..Wow!

I did. Or rather I saw it on a video clip. There was something about that that I can't really discuss here, but it was a great thing.

I too saw the thing on Wyatt.. It makes perfect sense to keep something like this quiet. It is a piece of the prophecy of the end days. One wouldn't want to start a panic now. Anyway the reason I am writing this is I have a question. If anybody on here does belong to a "lodge", how would someone join? It seems that the masons have some of the information I can't find on some things, and am eager to learn. PM me your answer, or email me at:

wmjames92@yahoo.com

Thanks,
swiftfan

    ASK 1 to BECOME 1;   "google" GRAND LODGE OF KENTUCKY - FREE-
MASONRY.  

 Friends may 'encourage' you to join , but you must approach of your own free will . No one is forced to join or recruited .
 My own issue ; as a man of principle and integrity , has been my reluctance to swear blind loyalty to
an organization that I might find out that I would rather not be part of after I have sworn my oath .
 My word is my bond and I use caution before giving it .

  True, you DO approach on yer own; NOT compelled to.   You have "oaths", when you join the US Armed Services... you have an "oath" for a Court Trial; just "by yer word", ain't good enough.   PLEASE clarify yer "anti-Masonry" comment, THANKS!  In other words, what oath(s) do you know about, since
you are not a FreeMason? 

After reading many of the post in this thread, from mine to hardware, rock, and religion.  I am very interested is getting this book when it comes out.  Yes I am a newbie to this site and treasure hunting in general.  Swifthunter, I wish you luck, I honesty think you are on to something there.  Maybe not so big in material treasure, but steeped in rich historical treasure.  And if you do find a decent haul out of the Vault and mines, so much the better I say.  I will say, the only thing I was skeptical on was the hammer, not the age just the handle, but thats just me and to be honest in the grand scheme of things an extemely minor point if that.  I applaud you for the work you have done and will keep an eye out for anything else you may post here.  Just let me know when the book comes out because i think this is going to be one excellent read.

Erin:)
"VonDigger"

Swiftsearcher, what is the status on your book?

Guys,

Sorry I have been out of pocket.  My father had surgery this morning and has been in ICU for a couple weeks now (and was sick before this).  The last time I got out anywhere in the woods was around Thanksgiving.  I made a nice find that day (in another area close to the mines and things).  I simply followed some signs.

As for a book, I don't know if/when I will get a chance.  I simply want to finish my research in the areas when I have time and get to the bottom of things.

Luckily, when Ralph was in before Thanksgiving, I made both of us a copy of the digital pics I have.  Last week, my computer was hacked into and pics and e-mails are now missing.  I have all the pics, except the ones I had recently downloaded from my most recent find.  There is so much left in the areas to uncover and pieces of a puzzle, that date back centuries before Swift, that the book is actually the last thing on my mind as of now.

As for the hammer, I am puzzled.  Ralph took it to an expert in Colonial Williamsburg and the expert dated it to the pre 1850's at least, though, he could not assign a more specific date to it.  That is all I know.  I did make a very nice find in a rock house near where I found the hammer of something, that with the carvings similar to it, might prove the "KGC" or an associated organization was here in the 1930's (as the artifact I found, which was a "marker" dates from the early 30's).  I have also found another "artifact" at another site from 1919, that was left as a "marker".  Honestly, SOMEONE or SOME ORGANIZATION is still around these sites - I just need to figure out who they are (though, I have a very good idea)!  BTW - I did find something that dates back to the early 1100's as well that will amaze many when I finally reveal it (probably in a book, should I ever write one on this)!  Many will not agree and that is fine, but I do KNOW that these "KGC" sites, vaults, depositories, etc. (at least where I am searching) date back many centuries and are still "guarded" today!

Merry Christmas to all!  I won't be out in the woods/areas until next year and don't really know when I will be able to get out.  Those of you helping me, I will let you know of any additional finds and when I get the equipment in for looking inside the vault.

Scott

PS - Regarding the comments of the AOC not hurting others who captured it, THE EVER-LIVING allowed the Philistines to capture the AOC b/c of the Israelites' Priests sinning against THE EVER-LIVING GOD (I Sam. 2:12-17, 27-36; 4:12-22)!  When THE EVER-LIVING wanted it back in the hands of the Israelites, it did harm many of the Philistines and they were happy to return it to the Israelites!  The Ark was eventually captured by the Philistines and brought to a temple in southern Canaan. However, after a series of plagues believed to have been brought upon by the captured Ark, the Philistines returned the Ark to the Israelites along with gifts to be housed in Beit Shemesh.

As for Wyatt finding the AOC, I don't know.  I tend to believe the story, since someone close to the discovery told me about it (and he is seems like a Good Christian Man from speaking with him).  I also believe the part about the AOC killing almost 20 Edomites and they had to be taken out by White Israelites.  Read the Verses below and you will see why THE EVER-LIVING did not allow these Edomites to view the AOC and live!  These same Edomites from Esau are the ones Jesus Christ warned us about in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9, who now claim to be Israelites or Jews!

Malachi - Chapter 1
1 The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.

2 I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? [Was] not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,

3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

4 Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.

Thanks for the update Swiftsearcher.  I'll be keeping an eye on this thread for anything else.

Erin
"VonDigger"

Thank you for your reply swiftsearcher.  Merry Christmas and God Bless!

swiftsearcher: your research is amazing and dedication is impressive!

look forward to reading your book...can you suggest some good reliable versions of Swift's journals?

I purchased one similar to this one on Ebay, but it was lost in a move...

http://cgi.ebay.com/SWIFTS-LETTERS-JOURNALS-1885-1ST-STANLEY-LANE-POOLE_W0QQitemZ300319338039QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAntiquarian_Collectible?hash=item45ec6d6e37

Does anyone have access to this book? It looks like it should be a great read...its back closer to the time of the events so it may have less added info.

I did a quick google of the book, and it appears to the be the English author, Johnathan Swift. With letters to his wife. Wrong swift...darn it!

Wish I had a nickle for everytime the wrong Swift has come up in a article or search! I usually do the advanced search in goggle and minus the titles to some of the books like Gulliver's travels! It cuts down the titles a lot! Well it was exciting for a few minutes! I should have goggled it, instead I was checking eBay for another one..glad I didn't find it...Thanks for the help!

I did find an online copy of Gist's journal. When I get home, I'll try to lookup the address. Looks like it could be a good read.

Swiftfan

Just read a book about Gist but it didn't have his journal in it. The poor guy sure was a good frontiersman and saved Washington's butt a couple of times. Washington mentions him a couple of times in his writtings. If you locate that book please forward the ISBN and/or other info I'd like to check it out too.

here is the link:

http://donchesnut.com/genealogy/pages/gistjournal.pdf

Now, I haven't really read it yet, just looked over it. It really gives you an idea of how rough it was. Now I need to get hardcopies for my library. Anyway, hope this helps.

Matt James
-swiftfan-

Great info, Swiftfan!

If you find a hard copy, let me know where to get one.

Thanks again!

--Chris

Got it!

Thanks Swiftfan!

Swiftsearcher (scott)..... Hope your father is doing better, remember we keep you and your family in our prayers and support you in anyway we can. Hope to hear from you soon buddy, God Bless.....    -Ki-

Thanks for all the kind words and prayers everbody!

I am still waiting for the weather to break to get back out.  There are several "loose ends" to tie up in this puzzle.  Also, there is MUCH MORE to this than simply some Silver Mines.  Swift was on a "mission" for the Freemasons and Washington.  Goes back to Sir Francis Bacon and the "vaults" and "New Atlantis" folks - that is why these sites (especially what many think are "KGC") are still guarded today by certain high-ranking Masons and others (that I have seen personally)!

Welcome back  Swiftearcher!

We are hoping all is better with your dad!

I am just starting to get into this KGC stuff a little, I am very skeptical but between you, 10Claw  and Floyd Mann I am scratching my head. If I  understand the KGC though, didn't it start in the 1860's?  Am I understanding you in that you think the "vault" type stuff started sooner? In Swifts time? Can you shed some llight on that for us newbies?

Curtis,
From what I hear you will have to start referring to him as "Indy". You will be able to see all his clues and learn about his quest when he publishes the book......30 years from now

Picture the Confederacy as a goverment. The KGC would have been the CIA or the Secret Service of the the goverment. They would have (looted?) the areas that had been abandoned before the Union arrived. They were also empting banks of gold to keep the Union from getting it, burying the loot, to fund a later rebellion, or to fund the army late in the war. Later, protecting it to keep the secret. but after so many years, exactly how much was saved from the south may never be known. But, I don't know much about the KGC, it's just my idea of it.

-swiftfan-

Picture the Confederacy as a goverment. The KGC would have been the CIA or the Secret Service of the the goverment. They would have (looted?) the areas that had been abandoned before the Union arrived. They were also empting banks of gold to keep the Union from getting it, burying the loot, to fund a later rebellion, or to fund the army late in the war. Later, protecting it to keep the secret. but after so many years, exactly how much was saved from the south may never be known. But, I don't know much about the KGC, it's just my idea of it.

-swiftfan-

Swiftfan - great that you brought the KGC up - we must remember that they were notorious "Treasure Hunters" as well - searching for and finding MANY older "treasures" to add to or relocate to THEIR site!

Picture the Confederacy as a goverment. The KGC would have been the CIA or the Secret Service of the the goverment. They would have (looted?) the areas that had been abandoned before the Union arrived. They were also empting banks of gold to keep the Union from getting it, burying the loot, to fund a later rebellion, or to fund the army late in the war. Later, protecting it to keep the secret. but after so many years, exactly how much was saved from the south may never be known. But, I don't know much about the KGC, it's just my idea of it.

-swiftfan-

Swiftfan - great that you brought the KGC up - we must remember that they were notorious "Treasure Hunters" as well - searching for and finding MANY older "treasures" to add to or relocate to THEIR site!

Is there any way I can get you to validate your claim the members of the KGC were notorious Treasure Hunters? Any reliable reference or source will do. I would hate to think your claims to be hollow or fabricated to enhance an agenda 

   FISHING, again!  LOL... 

  FISHING, again!  LOL... 

Not gullible is more realistic   

While I admit I don't know about the KGC, There are stories about the looting of towns prior to the Union arrival. I don't know if they were treasure hunters or not, but some possibly were looking after the war for those "signs" and stories that were told in camp around a fire. I try to not allow myself to delve into the "conspiracy" arena, but sometimes that is where you may find a lead...

Picture the Confederacy as a goverment. The KGC would have been the CIA or the Secret Service of the the goverment. They would have (looted?) the areas that had been abandoned before the Union arrived. They were also empting banks of gold to keep the Union from getting it, burying the loot, to fund a later rebellion, or to fund the army late in the war. Later, protecting it to keep the secret. but after so many years, exactly how much was saved from the south may never be known. But, I don't know much about the KGC, it's just my idea of it.

-swiftfan-

SWR - I DO have proof of this statement.  However, I am NEVER posting certain "facts" here again - those will be posted on the new KGC and related information forum, when things "calm down" a bit here and I have some time to get it running.

Swiftfan - great that you brought the KGC up - we must remember that they were notorious "Treasure Hunters" as well - searching for and finding MANY older "treasures" to add to or relocate to THEIR site!

Is there any way I can get you to validate your claim the members of the KGC were notorious Treasure Hunters? Any reliable reference or source will do. I would hate to think your claims to be hollow or fabricated to enhance an agenda 

 The best way to deal with SWR is to simply not respond to him . Replying leads to further distracting argument . Put him on IGNORE and only you and he know you did that and he gets off on it .
 If you publicly just don't respond to him then everyone knows he is being ignored .
 Them 'Dutchmen' where I come from call it shunning .
 Jim

Seth,

That is hilarious!

BTW - I hope all is going well with your new home and wife and look forward to meeting you again at the Swift get together "thingy"!  I have some interesting things to tell you about the Rich Mine you helped with with those days and want you to be a part of the "opening" of it, as the dirt is now gone - we simply need to open the mine entrance inside and find the dabbies (as my daughter use to call coins that were dug up )!

Scott

   SS, That sounds awesome to me man. Sheew I just wish this weather would clear up. I havent seen this much snow since I lived in Wyoming for 9 months back in '03. Oh and things are going good as could be expected, older house so stuff still messing up now and then, gotta go through more than I already have but it'll work. Cant wait to hear about the rich mine, just lemme know when yah wanna head back up there!

Seth

Jim, having met both you and Seth - You will like Seth, I am sure!

Jim, having met both you and Seth - You will like Seth, I am sure!

No doubt on my part . You spoke well of him . 'Nough for me .
 Jim