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Posted Aug 02, 2008, 10:26:34 AM
Hey everyone,  here is an unbelievable point I found this morning while sifting river gravel.  The asphaultum hafting is still attached, and even more amazing is a piece of the wooden shaft is still present. I'm not sure what to do with it or how to preserve it, i'm leaving it in a cup of water till I get some more info. I'm thinking the wood is the most fragile part and if I let it dry out it might disintegrate. Any suggestions would be appreciated. By the way,this was found in SE Texas. Thanks, Josh

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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Aug 02, 2008, 10:28:19 AM
Holy smokes that is an amazing find.Congrats and enjoy! thumbsup thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Aug 02, 2008, 10:30:39 AM
One more thing, you can see the impressions of the lashings on the asphaultum, also there was another point hafted with asphaultum found in the same general area, you can see it on Texasarrowheads.com.
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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Aug 02, 2008, 10:31:18 AM
I concur....that is one fascinating find you have there!!! CONGRATS!!! I have never seen an arrowhead found like that! WTG!!!  thumbsup  hello2 occasion14

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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Aug 02, 2008, 12:25:20 PM
You're right.  That is amazing.  Love it!
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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Aug 02, 2008, 01:08:33 PM
Absolutely astonishing!! I would consider that the find of a lifetime. That deserves a single, enclosed frame that will help preserve it for future generations.  Wow!
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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Aug 02, 2008, 02:08:50 PM
Hole-----E-----smokes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Simply beautiful!!!

I wonder if X-ray would show the hidden details?    It is a great example of one method they used to secure the points.

What is the recipe for this asphaltum stuff?   I have heard of pitch or hide glue mixed with charcoal.

Looks like they invented the original gorilla glue.

Thanks for showing us.......&......Congratulations!!   HH
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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Aug 02, 2008, 02:11:27 PM
That is a banner find on rarity alone.   BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Aug 02, 2008, 05:05:23 PM
Agree.
Banner.
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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Aug 02, 2008, 05:23:58 PM
dang thats rare i've found a few with little bit on it but never that much all found in aransas co tx
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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Aug 02, 2008, 05:48:50 PM
AWESOME! That is the find of a lifetime, never seen anything like that ever, wonder if it can be dated without seeing the base icon_scratch
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Aug 02, 2008, 06:34:47 PM
   WOW!! I believe it's servived in the water for a few [thousand? ] yr's, a few more weeks /mo's propably won't harm it , your doing the smart thing. I think the wood should be secondery to the asphaultum , don't go throwing it in any polyethylene glycol or  somthing untill you are SURE it won't harm the asphaultum . Now if you wanted an X-ray of it  , I'd go to your local hospital at about 9 P.M.  go on down to radiology  and find a bord-looking Radiologist, have him/her "run" a "test" ... with your point .

                                                                    

                                                      SCARED  STRAIGHT
      Dryed out Asphaultum with chips , don't let this happen to yours !!


       Do you know the points type / age ?  If not ,do you have any other points similare in shape / size

     that you could post ? so other's here could type / age  [apx.]

                            Anxious to know!! ; Blindpig



                                              
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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Aug 02, 2008, 08:39:44 PM
One more thing, you can see the impressions of the lashings on the asphaultum, also there was another point hafted with asphaultum found in the same general area, you can see it on Texasarrowheads.com.

Saw that too! Josh34 you're the man!  thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Aug 03, 2008, 06:19:20 AM
Apparently that stuff used to wash up on the Gulf Coast and the locals made good use of it's stickiness. Petroleum residue has been present there ever since forever.

Again, this is so rare it should be featured up top in the BANNER section. I know it's not a tiny 250 year old metal disc with a messy haired fat chick on it but sometimes even ancient stuff should be featured. This seems infinitely more difficult to find than even the fabled Fugio.

Ahem, again I say, BANNER please.
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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Aug 03, 2008, 06:28:55 AM
You're right, It is truely amazing.
Congrats.

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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Aug 03, 2008, 07:30:06 AM
Awesome find!  Gold and oil all at once! 
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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Aug 03, 2008, 08:17:57 AM
AMAZING!

Agreed Banner that point.

That's is simply awesome


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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Aug 03, 2008, 03:36:43 PM
Stunning find...I hope you don't mind... but I linked your post into Today's Finds...it definitely deserves the attention....you guys just don't get enough respect "down" here with some of the stuff you find.....hope to see this in the banner soon...  thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Aug 04, 2008, 06:37:47 AM
Oh my God! That is AMAZING! That is a find of a lifetime. . . BANNER!
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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Aug 04, 2008, 07:37:36 AM
               That is awesome!! thumbsup A true piece of the puzzle. Lets you know for sure just how they attached them. I would keep in in water too untilyou can find out how to preserve it.
Great Find!!

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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Aug 04, 2008, 09:50:44 AM
Awesome, they did a television special on the History Channel on that asphaltum, and they showed how it was heated and applied, apparently an art in itself, finds with this still intact are rarer than rare.

It's addicting, but it's pleasing!
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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted Aug 04, 2008, 11:43:04 AM
Speechless!!!!!! Shocked  Shocked  Shocked  Shocked

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Reply To This Topic #22 Posted Aug 04, 2008, 12:32:43 PM
Very cool find ... I agree that the rarity of this find should place it on the banner ... again congratz on a truly nice find ~ Jimmy

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Reply To This Topic #23 Posted Aug 04, 2008, 02:22:08 PM
Why isn't this on the banner...everyone click the Report to Moderator link at the bottom of the original post...let's get this up there!

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Reply To This Topic #24 Posted Aug 04, 2008, 04:03:15 PM
Way to go. I would check with the nearest university to see how they preserve a find like that.
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Reply To This Topic #25 Posted Aug 04, 2008, 09:25:08 PM
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Reply To This Topic #26 Posted Aug 05, 2008, 02:11:45 AM
Amazing find!!! A BIG congrats!

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Reply To This Topic #27 Posted Aug 05, 2008, 02:44:11 AM
Totally a no absolutely nothing about arrow heads kinda guy here, and I know you'd probably never sell it. But I gotta ask what you experts would think a museum or private collector would pay for such a rarity ?  Huh
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Reply To This Topic #28 Posted Aug 05, 2008, 03:56:48 AM
That is too damn cool man, congrats  thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #29 Posted Aug 05, 2008, 05:39:28 AM
Josh,
Keep it wet and contact the University of Texas at Austin archaeology department.  They will be able to assist you with preservation.  Organics rarely survive so you have a pretty significant find.  I'm a former archaeologist and still have some contacts, so let me know if you need any assistance.
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Reply To This Topic #30 Posted Aug 05, 2008, 06:16:23 AM
Awesome find...congrats on the find and the banner.  Well deserved.

NJ

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