What's a LRL

 Sorry for not knowing the tech talk, I'm a newby and thought it better to ask than spend days trying to figure it out.

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Welcome to T-net Pieman... No shame in not knowing the "lingo"...

LRL = Long Range Locator. They are nothing more than fancy dowsing rods. About the only thing they are good for finding is money from poor souls wallets who fall for the hype and fake advertisements...

Carl's page is the best for an education on LRLs
http://www.thunting.com/cgi-bin/geotech/pages/common/index.pl?page=lrl&file=main.dat
Remember these frauds are not advertised as LRLs and they are advertised in the most respectable publications

George.

Hey Pieman....There is a lot of LRL's on the market. Most of them require the use of Dowsing Rods. Knowledge of physical dowsing is a great help in their use. Some people are using CD's recorded off the internet as LRL's. Some are using $20 walkie-talkies. Some are using $25,000 units.

I find that the use of a LRL is faster than Dowsing and translates into less walking and more finds....Art

 Thanks for the info. I've tried dowsing with a couple of copper wires to find an object around my house, but it didn't work for me. I got a lot of readings but it wasn't what I was looking for. I was thinking of trying the geo radar route, but that doesn't sound like it will help either unless I want to shell out alot of money. Is there some way of learning the art, or do you just have to have the nak naturally.
                              Thanks

I have some Dowsing instructions on my site  http://groups.aol.com/dowsersweare called Dowsing Rods dated 11/3/04. The rods will close on most anything. You can bait the rods with a like material and that works. That is an advantage of a LRL as most are set at one freq. They are far from perfect but with a lot of practice you can learn what the rods are telling you.

Give the instructions a try and let use know if they help. Remember that the rods are just another tool...Art

I have one and it works great.....I don't sell 'em just use one that is beyond belief! The guy that invented it is a genius, he use to help rockets get where they need to go, and is a great guy too.

If you have something you would like to find and have done all the research I am willing to travel....for a percentage of course. If you just have a legend and want me to check it out its the same deal only I'll need my expenses taken care of. We put it all in writting first, and yes I will sign a nondisclosure statement. I live near the Cincinnati area. 

You all have read about the guy (from Hollywood) who thinks he has a shipwreck found but everything is tied up in court? Well if he had known about my device and got hold of me he could have found out for sure before bothering people and getting run off the property!

Oh yea, for those negative guys out there...before you even start let me say I'll put up but it will cost you! ha ha

I have one and it works great.....I don't sell 'em just use one that is beyond belief! The guy that invented it is a genius, he use to help rockets get where they need to go, and is a great guy too.

If you have something you would like to find and have done all the research I am willing to travel....for a percentage of course. If you just have a legend and want me to check it out its the same deal only I'll need my expenses taken care of. We put it all in writting first, and yes I will sign a nondisclosure statement. I live near the Cincinnati area. 

You all have read about the guy (from Hollywood) who thinks he has a shipwreck found but everything is tied up in court? Well if he had known about my device and got hold of me he could have found out for sure before bothering people and getting run off the property!

Oh yea, for those negative guys out there...before you even start let me say I'll put up but it will cost you! ha ha

Greetings Curtis...your post reminds me of another TreasureNet member who made the identical claims. He even made a video of his amazing device in action.

Before shelling out any hard-earned cash...do you have a video or other documentation in regards to your device?

Hey Curtis….Sounds a lot like one of the units I own….Good unit and none better…Art

SWR,

Sorry, can not help with a video.... I don't own video equipment. If you are serious I would be glad to demo it in the field...you hide a silver dollar give me directions with in a half mile of it and I'll retrieve it for you. Lets just do it near Cincinnati...OK? But then I would ask you to write a really nice review and put it right here....with my contact info and a copy of a signed letter of reference from you. Then you and I will go find some of the treasure on your favorite sites that have eluded you before....and you can cut me in. (Not something you are currently working on, but some of the things you knew were there but have given up on). I will however have to cover up the name brand until I have permission from the inventor (who is one great guy!) to allow pictures and other information. Can't get much more fair than that!

SWR,

Sorry, can not help with a video.... I don't own video equipment. If you are serious I would be glad to demo it in the field...you hide a silver dollar give me directions with in a half mile of it and I'll retrieve it for you. Lets just do it near Cincinnati...OK? But then I would ask you to write a really nice review and put it right here....with my contact info and a copy of a signed letter of reference from you. Then you and I will go find some of the treasure on your favorite sites that have eluded you before....and you can cut me in. (Not something you are currently working on, but some of the things you knew were there but have given up on). I will however have to cover up the name brand until I have permission from the inventor (who is one great guy!) to allow pictures and other information. Can't get much more fair than that!

This could be "doable"....you can locate a silver dollar from half a mile away. That is your claim?

Yep, as long as its not over 200 feet deep, then I need to be within a 1/4 mile.
Like your by line says extraordinary ....... and ready to contract out my services. This is the best place to get my start! And with a skeptic's endorsement I'll be sought out for the big ones! Appreciate your interest and wanting to see it to believe it. I know I had to, and with my education/engineering background I was the most skeptical person you could ask for. Let me know how you would like to do it. PM me the particulars.

Could this be filmed and put on Youtube? I wanna see it.

I have no problem with it, but I will have to get permission from the Inventor. The more i think about this offer the more determined I am to show the skeptics that there truly is silver in KY. Not only that, but taking someone that sincerely disagrees to old mines (again I am not claiming these are Swifts) would help to establish the creditability for it being done in antiquity (these were probably mined around the mid to late 1700s). This of course gives some geologists a blackeye for saying there is no silver in KY. Oops, please do not misunderstand, I have the upmost respect for Geologist it’s a fascinating and important occupation....I would just like to prove the naysayers wrong. I don’t like dream crushers, this is serious stuff looking for silver, and especially the proof of a legend! Young people would especially benefit from having an interest in this; it takes them into a self education mode that rivals college. I guess I had better get down to Grayson in the next week or two and get things arranged.

I have no problem with it, but I will have to get permission from the Inventor. The more i think about this offer the more determined I am to show the skeptics that there truly is silver in KY. Not only that, but taking someone that sincerely disagrees to old mines (again I am not claiming these are Swifts) would help to establish the creditability for it being done in antiquity (these were probably mined around the mid to late 1700s). This of course gives some geologists a blackeye for saying there is no silver in KY. Oops, please do not misunderstand, I have the upmost respect for Geologist it’s a fascinating and important occupation....I would just like to prove the naysayers wrong. I don’t like dream crushers, this is serious stuff looking for silver, and especially the proof of a legend! Young people would especially benefit from having an interest in this; it takes them into a self education mode that rivals college. I guess I had better get down to Grayson in the next week or two and get things arranged.

Let us know when you have permission from the inventor. I am in the process of contacting The Association for Rational Thought in Cincinnati, and hopefully get some Media coverage as well.  Don't throw in the towel yet!

Let us know when you have permission from the inventor. I am in the process of contacting The Association for Rational Thought in Cincinnati, and hopefully get some Media coverage as well.  Don't throw in the towel yet!

Need help with your debunking? Association for Rational Thought. In other words, we'll find a way to prove it false.

Let us know when you have permission from the inventor. I am in the process of contacting The Association for Rational Thought in Cincinnati, and hopefully get some Media coverage as well.  Don't throw in the towel yet!

Need help with your debunking? Association for Rational Thought. In other words, we'll find a way to prove it false.

Of course they will. As a matter of fact, it's SO false that they won't even need to see it in action. It's just.....well.....false! I mean, those contraptions CAN'T possibly work, and of course dowsing is a myth too, so why waste time? Let's do it the way science would do it....it can't be real because...well....just because. .......

I have no problem with it, but I will have to get permission from the Inventor.

Have you contacted the inventor for permission yet?   

I have no problem with it, but I will have to get permission from the Inventor.

Have you contacted the inventor for permission yet?

Dear group;
The question was asked:
"What's an LRL?"

A good descriptive phrase might be something like:
"A device which can locate large sums of money over great distances, mostly from the bank accounts of naive treasure hunters."
Your friend;
LAMAR

Gee lamar…I think you are one of those people that are jealous that most people can do what you can’t..Art

Gee lamar…I think you are one of those people that are jealous that most people can do what you can’t..Art

Gee Art...isn't this thread supposed to be about "Whats a LRL" and not "Let's gossip about other members when they post an opinion" ??

Gee lamar…I think you are one of those people that are jealous that most people can do what you can’t..Art

Dear aarthrj3811;
And what exactly would I be jealous of, my friend? Some guy holding an odd contrapion, walking slowly around a field and digging empty holes all day long, day in and day out? I didn't just walk in out of the cotton fields yesterday. I've seen my share of those so-called "people who can do what I can't" and I've yet to see ANY of them recover so much as a nickel. So yes, I can dig empty holes all day long just as fast as they can, therefore I have nothing to be jealous of.
Your friend;
LAMAR

I would think that an LRL able to find a silver dollar at a half mile would pick up EVERY silver dollar at a half mile - right?  And silver rings, and silver necklaces, and silver everything...

You might need one with a discriminator so it didn't pick up all the silver within a half mile - cause that's a lot of chasing people down to see their jewelry, or a lot of doors to knock on to see their coin collections.

 

Dear Montana Jim;
The idea is that the LRL operator uses a type of *mental focus* and concentrates on a certain object, or even a certain class or type of object. This supposedly works to effectively mask all of the other signals. The entire concept falls into the realm of psuedo-science, my friend.
Your friend;
LAMAR

Dear Montana Jim;
The idea is that the LRL operator uses a type of *mental focus* and concentrates on a certain object, or even a certain class or type of object. This supposedly works to effectively mask all of the other signals. The entire concept falls into the realm of psuedo-science, my friend.
Your friend;
LAMAR

So, the material used in an LRL is irrelevant?  Meaning - if it's "mental focus", why have a locater...  Maybe these talents should be used to find lost kids, not coins. 

I do believe in the power of the human mind... the possibilities are endless.  But, are you advocating the LRL itself is a necessary conduit?  Why not just stick your hands inyour pockets, close your eyes, and follow any other arbitrary item like a compass or the wind or a twig? 

One more question - do people with dowsing skills for stuff they walk over the top of just have real weak LRL skills?  It's the same thing, right? 

Hey Lamar…I too have saw people dig empty holes ( that’s what they though ) using Metal Detectors. Dowsing Rods and LRL’s….Gold is the hardest thing to understand but is also easy to find. Micro Gold will cause these Detectors to respond. I spent most of my life gold dredging in California…I saved everything after my clean ups…I would process it after the season was over. Good money in that…

A good method when you are digging is to always put the dirt in a bucket using a 1 inch screen. Check you hole often and when the signal goes away check the bucket. It will be there. When I get back to the car I screen down to ¼ inch….When I get home and as soon as I have time I screen down to 30 mesh, 50 mesh and 100 mesh. Most visible gold will be in the 30 mesh screen. Each size is kept in a separate bucket for later processing….
 
Metal Detectors, Dowsing Rods and LRL’s are good enough that you should never dig an empty hole. I think if all these gold hunters that dig up pull tabs would check their dirt they would be in for a big supriise….Art

Hey Lamar…I too have saw people dig empty holes ( that’s what they though ) using Metal Detectors. Dowsing Rods and LRL’s….Gold is the hardest thing to understand but is also easy to find. Micro Gold will cause these Detectors to respond. I spent most of my life gold dredging in California…I saved everything after my clean ups…I would process it after the season was over. Good money in that…

A good method when you are digging is to always put the dirt in a bucket using a 1 inch screen. Check you hole often and when the signal goes away check the bucket. It will be there. When I get back to the car I screen down to ¼ inch….When I get home and as soon as I have time I screen down to 30 mesh, 50 mesh and 100 mesh. Most visible gold will be in the 30 mesh screen. Each size is kept in a separate bucket for later processing….
 
Metal Detectors, Dowsing Rods and LRL’s are good enough that you should never dig an empty hole. I think if all these gold hunters that dig up pull tabs would check their dirt they would be in for a big supriise….Art

Maybe you've had your own issues with empty holes Art, but I can't recall ever having dug an empty hole.  They all have something in them.  That's why my detector responded, because it beeps over metal.  Hence the term "metal detector." 

As far as "micro gold" goes, maybe it's there, maybe it's not, but what does it matter?  I'm looking for what my detector tells me is there, not what I can barely see with the naked eye. 

Remember Art, there are different tools for different activities.  Most detectors aren't built to locate micro gold, and mine certainly wasn't intended for that purpose.  As you said, you utilize a multitude of screens, buckets, shovels, etc to recover micro gold.  I can't take these items to my local parks, or to the 100-year-old home of one of my neighbors.  At least, not without getting hauled to jail.  :-)