Want to try Dowsing?

I never thought much about how I hold my Dowsing Rods. This is how I hold them. I place the top part of the handle in the crease of the big knuckle of my index finger about a 1/2 inch from the bend of the rod. I place the lower part of the rod in the crease that goes all the way thought my hand. I close my hand lightly with my thumb touching the nail of my index finger. Now move your arm back and forth. The rod should move freely....I thought everyone had wire coat hangers until someone e-mailed me and ask where they could buy them. Just go to an auto shop or about anywhere they wear uniforms.

 
To make the L rods cut two hangers at the neck and straighten them. Make the handles 5" long and the long side 17"making sure that the handles are free of the old bends. Remember that these L Rods are not very sensitive but will react to a lot of different objects.

RECEIVING RODS
The first step is to simply take the receiving rods in your hands. Feel them: look at them: and get used to them. Outside is best for practice but inside will work. Hold the receiving rods in front of you-chest high-about 18" apart at the same height, parallel to each other and to the ground. It is best if one of the rods is one inch above the other so they won't touch each other when they cross.
The most important thing for you to do is practice a lot. Expect the rods to feel clumsy at first; awkward. The wind may blow them around somewhat. Sometimes they will swing outward too far, but don't get discouraged because we all have gone through this experience. If the rods aren't level at all times or they move a bit, don't worry. It is not that critical. After you have some practice and start working with the system, you will be able to take a set of rods in your hands and make them work properly for you in the wind, dodging trees, rocks, or any obstacles you may encounter.    

Now your ready to try some Dowsing. Locate your power line to your house either overhead or under ground. Slowly walk toward the lines with the rods open. Before you get to them the rods should close. Start walking again and the rods will open and close again after you go passed the lines.

Now stretch your garden hose out and turn the water on. Your rods should close when your heel is on the hose. Now get a good size piece of steel.( I use an old lawn mower blade ) Walk slowly toward the steel and again the rods should close when your heels are on the steel.

The power lines put out an oval signal where the hose and the steel put out straight lines. Some thing to remember is that there is random signal lines so if your rods should close when they should not just ignore them for now.

Now collect a large nut or bolt, a penny, nickel, quarter and a piece of gold. Find a place that is at least 15 feet square. Walk slowly around this area and see if the rods close. I use my driveway and I have a gold signal that crosses it.
Now put the nut or bolt in the center and walk slowly toward it. As you approach the target slide your feet an inch at a time. When the rods close completely your heels will be on or beside the target. Repeat with the other objects. The rods should close on all these objects.
Now tape a penny at the end of each rod with masking tape. Start with the nut or bolt and do as before. The rods should close only on the penny.

OK so far we know you can find a penny. Now put the penny in the center. Slowly walk a square starting in the north or south direction about 10 feet from the penny. When the rods start to cross you may have to change direction so they cross equal. Now drop one rod to your side and see where the other one points. Now drop that rod and move the other one up.

They should have both pointed at the penny. Mark the spot and continue your square. You should have marked 4 spots. These spots you marked should be North , South  East - West.??

Let us know how you did....Art

while i do not have any trouble locating tunnels, metals, and some certain ore bodies, i can walk across hoses, plastic water lines, creeks, even got in a jon boat and went across my pond, all without picking up on the water...i also do not pick up on power lines and have walked underneath several while dowsing with not even the slightest signal from them......iron and iron ore pick up the strongest.....i guess some people are tuned in to different things,,,it also has to do with what you are looking for to a very large extent, and i have never wanted to locate water or power,,,just metal and tunnels/voids....which is no problem.......i also will pick up signal all around target, not just on n-s-e-w lines......art, i'm glad to see you are trying to give some advise on the subject, as i have about given up on anybody being able to here.............keep on posting,,,,,,,gldhntr

Hey gldhntr....That is why dowsing is so interesting. We all can't run a mile in under 4 minutes so why should dowsing be any different. I started this thread in hopes that it would be put in the archives when this subject is deleted. I am giving the information as it works for me as general information so others that want to try it can have an easier time that I did....Art

This needs a little more room and a stack of penny's won't hurt. Place the penny's so you have 20 or 30 feet of space. Find the signal line and mark it. There is two ways to follow the line to the target. From your marked spot you can walk a S pattern toward the target. Your rods will close and open each time you cross the line.
The other way is to stand on the line facing the target. As you walk toward the target your rods will form a rough V. After 2 or 3 steps stop. Side step 1/2 step to the left and right to see what your rods do. When you get to the target your rods will close.

All minerals have what is referred to as a "HALO" or cone of energy that comes to the surface at a 45 degree angle from the target. To determine the depth of a target--------

1. Stand over your target with the L-rods crossed.
2. Slowly walk away from the target and the rods will open and point ahead.
3. Inch along until the rods form an inverted V with the tips about 1 !/2 inches apart and mark the spot.
4. Measure the distance back to your target. That's how deep the target is.
5. If you measured 1 foot the target is less than 1 foot deep.

Once you find a signal line you have to follow it to your target. Find a large area ( thirty plus feet.) that has no random signal lines. Place your target in the center. Walk your square as far away from the target as you can. When the rods cross mark the spot. Get a string, fishing line or a rope and  put it from your marked spot to the target. From the marked spot walk a S pattern toward the target noting that the rods close each time you cross the line. The rods will cross when you get to he target. The signal line will pass thought the target and keep going. To check that you have not went passed the target square your body to the signal line. The rods will be closed. Drop the rod that is closest to the target to your side. The other rod should point to the target. If it moves the other way you have went passed the target. This will work no matter which hand you drop. Hope this helps someone

The way it works for me is that the signals from the target run north, south, east and west?Art

For the new dowser I think it is important to be accurate with the rods. What the rods are made of and what kind of handles and how long they are is important. The most important thing to me is body position. You need to find a repeatable body position so that when you are on the target and the rods are crossed you can mark it.

When I noticed that I was digging some big holes to get a little gold I decided to work on the problem. The first thing I did was place a silver dollar on the floor. I put the heel of my boot on it and held my rods out and they only closed part way. I moved my arms back and forth and the rods opened and closed. I moved my hands in and out and they opened and closed.

So...I found a position for my arms with my hands 1 inch wider than the rod length. The position I chose was my arms at shoulder height and out as far as I could push them. I could repeat this position every time. I decided that I would use the front 1/2 inch of my left heel as my marking spot as I could reach it without hurting my back to much. I then started using a dime as my target.

The next step was to trim my rods so they were crossed and locked when my heel was on my spot and my arms and hands were in position. When on the target turn in different directions and adjust your feet as needed. Hope this helps some of you newbies.....Art

I have a little parlor trick for you. Wrap a dollar bill on the end of each rod. Hold them on with rubber bands. Throw a dollar on the floor and give the rods a try. Didn't think they would close did you. Pick up the dollar and throw some coins down. See if the rods will close now. They stayed open !!!!!

This is one of many ways to discriminate with your rods...Art

A lot of people claim that the rods close because of Ideomotor Response (movement of the wrists and hands). Make this simple frame and see if you can make the rods close when not on a signal line...Art

hey art, i always thought the idiot motor response was where you shook all over and pointed to the ground......i have tried your set-up. placed it on a table, put my hands on the tubes, without moving set-up from table, and had my 6 yr old walk around with different targets......i still was able to pick up on the targets,,,without my idiot motor........keep up the good work..........gldhntr

Hey Gldhntr....I have worked hard to make sure that nothing mental is happening when I am dowsing. I know others use the mental aspics of dowsing. I found that when using more advance dowsing equipment that Physical Dowsing was the only way to go.....Art

i have found out , the hard way of course, that when doing site dowsing, i have to go to the site, which alot of times is found by physical dowsing,, anyway, i have to walk around and check out everything, trees , rocks, creeks, everything.......then dowse the area....if i am on a site i found through research, or through one of the two very proficient map dowsers i am associated with, then i know what i am looking for, and dowse for such.... if i do not do the walk around first i have a hard time concentrating on the target due to visually checking out site at the same time, and letting my mind wander {ie, that rock looks funny, or that looks like a tree carving } and i lose my mental path........i have found a very many sites simply walking old backroads, or paths through the woods dowsing for ''items buried by man''..........a few of these sites have proven quite profitable, or historical.....these are not sites i could see from the path i was on, they were usually quite aways from the trail, and never in sight......i do not have what it takes to sit at a table and information dowse, although i have no problem doing it on sight once a target is located  .....i can attest to the fact that the two people i have used map or info dowsing  have both led me to spots all but inaccessable, and to within a usually 50 feet or less of a certain target.....they have described them and i have located them, just as i was told....some of these targets were specific markers, some were other targets,,,,some of these required no field dowsing to locate as there is no need to dowse for a rock with an X carved on it, if you can find it on top of the ground, within 50 feet of where someone several states away says it will be........one of the only problems i have is my own fault, and has caused me to have to redowse sites several times...if looking for gold or silver coins or other processed  minerals, dowse for such...do not just dowse for gold, or for silver, as you will {i do anyway} pick up on every little miniscule grain of it in the ground,,,this will drive you crazy in rich ore areas, unless you specify ""gold coin"" or ""silver coin'' or whatever you are after........at times i even have to tell myself '' no ore''...if you want ore, and having problems locating it, contact me, i can put you on several mountains of it...............gldhntr

Hey gldhntr...Tell me about those micro gold deposits. Here in Northern California they are everywhere. I have learned to eliminate about half of them and the others I dig and process them. By the end of the year they add up to quite a few dollars.

I try to stick to placer gold deposits because they are easy to recover. I did trace the path of a gold float  from a creek, up the mountain to the sourceI. I am pretty set in my ways of dowsing but enjoy reading how it works for others. But as the way live works every thing is subject to change...Art

white quartz rock with gold....every time i walk across an area of this ore both my rods will point left, right, left , right, over and over the whole time i am over this type quartz/gold combination......couldn't figure it out until i dug the same white quartz at two seperate locations...both these locations are within a stones throw of very old gold mines..ever in n.c. i can put you on alot.....once it starts happening i can insist on gold coin, or tell myself over and over a couple times , ''no ore'' and the rods will not swing back and forth anymore, even though i am still over the ore pocket................gldhntr

Ladies and gentlemen...I am trying to get as much informaion on this thread as I can...

To prove that objects emit energy or a signal is simple. Use a quart jar. Take some liquid rubber and dab it onto the center of the lid. Pull it away from the lid to create a thin string that looks like the strand of a spider web. This is the hardest part of the test. Attach a 1/2 inch Alum foil disk to the rubber strand. Screw the lid on the jar.

Place a protractor on the table with the 90 degree mark pointing to north. Set the jar on the protractor and alien the disk in a north south direction. Place a gold nugget beside the jar on the 0 degree mark of the protractor and wait for the disk to turn. Now try placing other objects by the jar one at a time. I found that a slice of onion gave off the strongest signal of anything that I tried.

What turned the disk? I can only conclude that objects emit energy.....Art
 
 
   
 

My son came down from Alaska in December. A few years ago I had taught him to Dowse by telephone and e-mails. He had enjoyed a lot of good gold finds. To my surprise he told me he was always 2 1/2 feet from the target. It took us the whole month to get him on target.

I have been experimenting with adjustable rods for my wife and son. This is how I made them. I purchased one length of 3/16" brass rod, one length of brass 3/16" ID brass tubing and four 3/16" screw protectors. I then place one end of the rod in a vise and bend it about 45 degrees and use a wood mallet to bend it to 90 degrees. This makes a tighter bend.

I then cut the long end to 10" in length. I make the other rod and file the ends smooth. I cut two lengths of tubing 9 1/2" long and smooth the ends. I crimp one end of each tube with a pair of pliers and file it so a screw protect will slide onto it. Now slide the tubing on to the rod. If it is to loose bend the tip of the rod a little and try it again. You want it to be snug and not tight. Put screw protectors on the handles. Try them and see what happens when you change the length.

If you want swing handles on them cut 4" of 5/16 " copper tubing and slide it on. The screw protectors will keep them from falling off
 As to the reason for using copper on the handles, it seems to make the rods work for some people who other wise could not use them. Why does it work? I suspect it has something to do with adding or subtracting ion's from the brass.

I bought some rubber groments that were smaller than 3/16" and some nylon washers and put them above the copper tubing. This seem to make the rods turn smoother. Ace Hardware as the material.....Art

To prove that objects emit energy or a signal is simple. Use a quart jar. Take some liquid rubber and dab it onto the center of the lid. Pull it away from the lid to create a thin string that looks like the strand of a spider web. This is the hardest part of the test. Attach a 1/2 inch Alum foil disk to the rubber strand. Screw the lid on the jar.

Place a protractor on the table with the 90 degree mark pointing to north. Set the jar on the protractor and alien the disk in a north south direction. Place a gold nugget beside the jar on the 0 degree mark of the protractor and wait for the disk to turn. Now try placing other objects by the jar one at a time. I found that a slice of onion gave off the strongest signal of anything that I tried.

What turned the disk? I can only conclude that objects emit energy.....Art

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Q)  Art, I am interested since  it fis into many of my para-normal experments.   How and where do you attach the disc to the strand of rubber cement?Also  post more.

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Hey Realde Tayopa.... Back in the late 30's the instrument was called a Radiodynamometer. It was used to measure millimeter waves as they were emitted from underground occurrences and surface substances.

When you make the rubber thread attach the foil disk to the thread so it doesn't hit the bottom of the jar. It took a lot of try's before I got one that was thin enough. The second jar I made I used liquid electical tape for it. I tried a 1/4 inch dia disk and the 1/2  inch dia. disk. It takes a little time for the disk to turn. When you think it has turned as far as it is going to check the protractor to see how many degrees it turned. Each different object will move a different amount.

When researching I find more about dowsing in scientfic papers written between 1880 and 1940. It may be that the experiments were simple  and I can understand what they were doing....Art

Something else to think about.....Place a coin on the floor. Take your rods an walk a few feet from the coin until the rods close. Now raise one off the floor. The rod should have opened when the foot came off the floor. Put the foot on the floor and the rods close. Now repeat with the other foot.

What just happened ? Did we complete some kind of circuit with both feet and the rods reacted. When we raised a foot and the rods opened did we simple disconnect a circuit....Art

Dowsing Rods and Aura's

Why do I mention Dowsing Rods and Aura's? I didn't know anything about Aura's and didn't believe or disbelieve in them until I came upon a web site named Dowsing Rods and Aura's. An Aura is simply a magnet field around your body. Heres a little test you can try if you have learned to use your dowsing rods

Have a person stand in front of you. Walk slowly toward them and when your rods cross you are inside of their aura.Now back up slowly until your rods open and then close to a vee. This is the outer edge of the aura.

Now have the person focus on different emotions and measure their field simply by staying in front of them. First I have the person focus on anger.I give them a few minutes to focus and ask them to think about something that makes them angry.

I have to move forward to make the rods form a vee because anger makes the aura shrink.I then ask them to think of something that makes them very happy. Give them a few minutes and you will have to move way backwards to form the vee because happyness expands the aura way passed where the normal aura was.

Have them think of stress and love and see what happens..Have Fun....Art

my 6 year old picks up my rods every time he gets a chance,,,,,he wasn't having much luck as they were much too long.....i trimmed him a set down to where the tips are just inside of his aura....he can now dowse buried coins in the yard....he will locate the coin with the rods, pinpoint it under his foot, mark it, run get his shovel, and dig like crazy... he now tells people he is going to be a treasure hunter when he grows up.........only time i have seen him happier is when i let him target practice with the 22 rifle...............gldhntr

Hey gldhutr...Thanks...Getting the tips inside the aura did not enter my mind. I have often thought that the persons aura may be the reason they could not dowse. This gives some more options when tring to help others....Art

i think the aura or what i call personal energy is the key,,,,,,something about this personal energy, and the earths energies, working in harmony towards a goal.........gldhntr

i have been told that when extremely pissed off you can feel it in the air around me..........have never tried dowsing with my pissed aura, but might have to test it out, if it is that strong.........on deciding length on my sons rods, i dowsed his aura with him standing in front of me..measured the distance from his body to where i hit his energy....cut the rods this length minus 1/2 inch or less........so when he is holding them, his aura should be just outside the length of the rods.......it works for him.........very well too....................gldhntr

Who is this Art that keeps putting this stuff on this thread. In 1980 my job dried up. I worked a few jobs but to stay in my field I had to work 100's of miles from home. I did not want to live in these areas. I had been a weekend miner for many years so I became a full time Gold Dredger. I made my living that way until 1999 when a health problem stopped me from diving.

I continued to seek gold on the banks. I had some equipment that required the use of Dowsing Rods. I wasn't doing to good with the rods. In 2002 we purchased a computer for our grandson as it seem that his teachers preferred for him to copy and print his homework from the internet.

I started to post question and got called all kinds of names. I am a very stubborn person. I read between the lines and started to do a lot of test with my dowsing rods. 2004 was a good year with the rods as I recovered almost 3 pounds of gold. I'm still learning but I believe that the information I have should be passed on so others don't have to read between the lines.

Everything I write is how it works for me. Will it work for you ? The answer is I don't know. If you think positive it is a big help. The rods may work different and you may have to make some adjustments but I think the basic's are posted....Art

When inventor Thomas A Edison was ask, " What is electricity ?" He replied: "I don't know either--but its there--so lets use it."

I saw a question on another forum. Which hand to use when using one rod and which one is the most sensitive ?

?As a two rod user I through I knew the answer but I was wrong. As the signal from objects is on both sides of the object you need a way to tell which direction the object is when you find a signal line. With two rods when the rods close I drop one rod to my side and the other will always point to the object no matter which rod I drop to my side.

When I tried the same thing with a rod in one hand and nothing in the other I was surprised. Instead of pointing to the object it crossed in front of my chest no matter which hand it was in and seem to move with the same amount of pull?..Art

Hey Deacon.......I enjoy hearing how the rods work for others. My sons rods cross on the signal line as mind do. When he crosses a signal line and the target is with in 25 feet or so,  both rods will point to the target as yours do. He can walk around the target and as long as he is with in 25 feet of the target both rods will continue to point at the target. If I walk the same circle mine will only cross at 4 spots. It doesn't make much difference what the rods do as long as you understand what they are telling you.......Art

when i hit a signal line the rods will cross. if i stop and back up slowly till rods barely get straight again and just stand there for a minute, both the rods will very slowly turn to point toward the target....sometimes, i have to ease back toward the line a little bit before they will turn and point..........once pointing directly at the target i can go all the way around it in a circle and the rods will stay locked on to target....................gldhntr

Gave your tip a try. I didn't give it a lot of time but will in the future. One rod turned quickly and I had to move back a little to get the other to point at the target. Once they were pointing at the target they stayed locked on it even when I crossed the signal lines. After walking a half circle I stared to follow them to the target. Unlike one rod the rods were stable and lead me right to the target. I will do some testing in the future with my Easter-egg blind testing and see how well it works for me....Art

Hey Gldhntr....I hope you don't mind but I posted your reply #33 on my group site. I think some of them will be interest....Art

Hey Deacon. ..I have saw two rods spin. It has never happened to me but to a friend of mine. I have played around with one rod and found they were not as good for me as two rods.....Art

deacon, i have had two rods spin over target....i have found that with me, when two rods cross over target, if i ease up they will pass crossed position and when both are perfectly paralell pointing in opposite directions the rods are directly over target........................................... ......................     
 art,, feel free to post any of my posts on any site you wish........on your post # 34 you said one rod was kind of slow turning,,,,i have found this to be caused by crossing the signal line at a slight angle...try going back and approach at a little different angle , and i think you will see when going straight across that both will swing with equal strength towards target........gldhntr

Some Basic Rules:

These are some basic rules which are a guide to beginners but still apply at all stages of the dowser?s career.

1/ Virtually all Dowsing is Seeking, Looking for Something. This must be appreciated and the mind focused in this direction at all times.

2/ Develop the Dowsing Sensitivity.  Before a dowser is any good, it is necessary to develop a dowsing sensitivity.  H/she must learn to cut out the brain and the five senses and allow the mind to reach out for the answer.  You must practice a lot in your early days and in elementary dowsing work.

3/ Practice and Test.  To develop 3 above, it is practice and more practice.  For instance practice on know things.  Dowse someone's well and check your results against those that are known ? that is how far down is the water and how deep is it?

4/ The Questions Asked Must be Clear, Correct and Appropriate to the Job in Hand.  Think carefully and make a list of questions before you start.

5/ There Must be a Need to Know.  It must be done for a specific task.  Dowsing for a client, demonstrating the practice of dowsing ? but never to show off with ?What a good and clever boy or girl I am?.

6/ Have Confidence That Dowsing Works for You.  This is essential, develop it, hang on to it, you will have failures but so what? - So many people say ?Oh yes it works for me, but I don?t think I?ll be any good?  The answer to that is ?Oh ye of little faith? - get practising.

7/ It is Essential to Know the Background of the Field in Which You Are Working.  If you want to do archaeological dowsing, get books from the library and learn the basic principles, this applies to anything, Psychic dowsing, any dowsing work.

8/ Be Bold in Application.  Be prepared to take on anything even those which you haven?t tried before.

9/ Time.  If there is a question of time, this must be taken into account. E.g., I want the height of the roof above floor level in the year 1250.  Everything must relate to 1250 and it must be kept firmly in mind.

10/ Identification.  If there are many objects similar to that which is being sought there must be some form of identification.  Examples are lost children or animals.  You are looking for a child, there are millions of children ? you should keep in mind ? I am looking for a European boy with ginger hair about ten years old etc.

11/ Preconceived Ideas ? Wishful Thinking.  These are the biggest menaces in dowsing and the reason for most failures especially amongst the novice dowsers.  Failure come about when you allow the brain and/or the five senses to intrude.

All dowsers, however skilled have to be cautious not to let this happen.

DOWSING IS NOT A MAGIC ART OR AN EXERCISE FOR THE ?BRAIN OF BRITAIN? TYPES.

IT IS NOT MEANT TO BE ANALYSED OR REASONED ABOUT.

IT IS THERE TO BE TAKEN ON TRUST ? TRUST THAT ANYONE CAN DEVELOP THE SKILL.

A LITTLE PATIENCE AND PRACTICE IS THE KEY.

IF YOU FEEL THAT IT COULD BE FOR YOU, DO NOT HESITATE, JUST GO FOR IT

  It has been some years since I looked in on treasurenet and I knew if Marc tried out dowsing it would work out. There is some very good advice on dowsing for beginners being posted here. I thought I would put in my pennies worth on dowsing for water. Beginners are complaining that they cannot dowse and find water.  When professionally dowsing on farms for water in the 1980s I was always plagued by the enigma of brilliant dowsing results and some dry bores.
 
  The drill would plunge through the outer calcite casing of the underground stream, through the blackish river grit and then through the whitish base of the underground pipe without a drop of water being present. After my last disaster of a dry bore I had a ( for me ) a brainwave..
Dowsers can only find what they can picture. Can you find hydrogen or oxygen, no, neither can I.

  I was dowsing the minute cavities in the river grit and obtaining a collective cavity signal.
I switched over to imagining I was in a bath after obtaining a cavity signal, then if no pressure down below , no water. A lot of pressure meant a good bore, poor pressure meant salty water .   

  I was reading a newspaper soon after which had a reference to buried treasure and I realised I had been training myself forTreasure hunting as I have always been able to find the odd horse shoe or rifle barrel and now that I knew what a cavity signal was, I became a treasure trove hunter the same day.

This has been a wild ride the last few weeks. A lot of facts to consider. It is easy to see that dowsing is not an exact science and works different for each of us. I think the way each of us use dowsing is controlled by our goals. What I consider to be treasure may be junk to someone else. The fact that it works still amazes me. Will all of this change the way I use dowsing ? I don't think so but I have received some helpful tips.........Art

Went to a birthday party yesterday. As the party was breaking up one of the kids had lost his car key. They were looking for it on the lawn with flashlights as they assumed he had lost it while playing volley ball. I checked the lawn with my rods and found no key. They called this morning as they had found the key in one of the bathrooms after all the flashlights batteries were dead.....Art

Good question's....The signal line should have extended out of house. The area I checked was east of the house about 70 feet and did include the part of the house where the key was found. I can only pick up signal lines when I am at one of the cardinal directions from the object and I was. I checked one of my key's and I can pick it up at 100 feet ( With of my back yard ). I will check that again when I have more room as the lenght of the signal line varies with the size and material of the object.

When looking for lost objects I try to get like materials and tape it to the rods or hold them in my hands with the rod handles. I have been lucky at finding lost objects but when I fail I make no excuses. I find that finding gold in the mountains is a lot easier than finding lost objects...Art

 

just some fun to prove to yourself dowsing works without you moving your hands because of what you see or ideomotor response........ have someone videotape this for your later veiwing pleasure,,,,sit in a chair in the yard with earplugs in your ears,,,,,, have your kid hold a target out in front of you a ways , and get a good lock on it with rods,, have someone slip a thick cloth bag over your head so you can not see.......now your photographer quietly instructs the kid to walk about 15-20 feet left, then right, back and forth, or  ever how he wants to as long as he is going slow and staying more or less in front of you........if your results were like mine you will see your rods followed the target every where it went as long as not moving too fast.........if this test does nothing other than boost your belief system it is worth the time to do it........after doing this you will know you did not do anything to make the rods move other than to concentrate on your target.......................gldhntr

Hey....Just wanted to bring this thread back toward the top before it goes bye-bye into cyber-space....Art

Things that make you hmmm.... I was at my farm last weekend. I have a pipeline that runs through the middle of the property and was needing to find it so that I could put my fenceline up parrellel to it. I have dowsed water lines (an old biker showed me how). I found the gas pipeline and the both rods pointed in direction of flow. So I felt very comfortable that I had found it. WELL when my wife came out to check on me I showed her how I had found it and the rods began to cross about 20 feet from my marks and wouldnt point in the direction of flow anymore. I couldnt figure it out until I read your statement about dowsing being for a true reason, and that reason is not to show off. (that was what I was doing with out knowing it) I brought those rods back to Chicago with me and after some more reading my practicing will be begin in ernest.

Hey tmanfromtexas..You will find that the rods will work for most everyone. I think you have found out why I say practice and then practice some more. I don't expect that everyones rods will react the same as mine. Some will say that you knew the pipe line was there. No big deal. I am only going to search for gold in places that my research shows me that it should be there. Going to be away from the computer for 3 to 7 days so good luck everyone...Art

That is my plan, practice practice practice. If you re going to the brush be careful. TMAN...

Dowsing can work for anyone, or not work.

Some things, buried power lines for one, a person can find without even trying, it's the magnetic field that will make the 'rods cross'.  I have demonstrated this many times to folks.

Finding water, I am told involves the same principle really,  I have never tried it.

I have used a pendulum to find lost items.  It does work but takes a LOT of time and practice.  don't think you are going to grab a pendulum, or dowsing rods, and in two days find the missing pirates treasure.  Just like any other skill / profession / whatever you want to call it, it takes time and work to become proficient at it.

some days no matter how good you are, *or think you are* you are going to strike out,  other days you will find what you seek.

I am not going to get into any deep hoodoo voodoo on why or how it works, as I do not feel myself qualified to make such statements but will just say.  I have seen other people do it, and I have accomplished some small tasks myself.  It CAN work if you work at it and give it a shot and most importantly believe in it's abilities and yourself.

Aaron

       AAron,



            those's are the right words for dowsing: some people get it within months, some don't
my self, I have found Spanish coins on a map, then went to the beach and dug up the next day.
     Dowsing is a Tool,  not some quick get rich deal: you have learn how to use the tool first.
  all I know it's work for me, I have seen used in the Military from the late 80's to present day.
   a pendulum is the best way learn first.

After reading this thread again, while I use a pendulum primarily, I have not tried wrapping it with an item, or otherwise doping it to find certain items.   I find that if I am careful enough with my logic pattern I can pretty much accomplish that myself w/o crutches.

At this point I pretty much need to work on my accuracy as far as distance of pinpoint.  I believe I can get this down a tad and do a bit less digging on some things I have went after.  Again it's all practice, and lately I have been kind of scatterbrained and pre occupied with a lot of crap and not really in the mood/mindset I feel... to really dowse properly... there are too many distractions there.....  life is settling down though thankfully and I feel Ill be good to go in a few weeks and get back in the saddle.

Aaron

There are different thoughts about why a witness/sample works. One main one is it makes an impression on the subconscious. Even writing the name of the target on a piece of paper can do this quite well. Of course, another main theory is that the sample sends out sympathetic vibrations that form a link to the target. Many dowsers say this link is very much like a pipeline.

There are different thoughts about why a witness/sample works. One main one is it makes an impression on the subconscious. Even writing the name of the target on a piece of paper can do this quite well. Of course, another main theory is that the sample sends out sympathetic vibrations that form a link to the target. Many dowsers say this link is very much like a pipeline.

In my experience the witness/sample can be used for either application, Mental (meta-physics), or Physical (physics). Often Dowsers are unknowingly intertwining  the two as a single application.

In my opinion, confusing the two applications has lead to much of the mis-understanding and controversy, and skeptic argument about Dowsing. Although the same  Rod(s) may be used for either  application, the method of application, limitations, and correct interpretation of the Rod(s) are entirely different. Intertwing the two applications without an understanding of which application the Rods are responding  to, or which application is being discussed is confusing to the viewers , and those who wish to learn how to Dowse.   Dell

In my experience the witness/sample can be used for either application, Mental (meta-physics), or Physical (physics). Often Dowsers are unknowingly intertwining  the two as a single application.

In my opinion, confusing the two applications has lead to much of the mis-understanding and controversy, and skeptic argument about Dowsing. Although the same  Rod(s) may be used for either  application, the method of application, limitations, and correct interpretation of the Rod(s) are entirely different. Intertwing the two applications without an understanding of which application the Rods are responding  to, or which application is being discussed is confusing to the viewers , and those who wish to learn how to Dowse.   Dell

I agree totally with you Dell..My methods work for physical dowsing…Some parts also works for mental dowsers. I have and still work hard to keep the mental part under control as it just screws me up.

As a black box user I think it is very important to only use Physical means for them to work properly. I may be wrong but it would not be the first time…
Art

Hey guys, kinda new to this site and just scrolled down the main page far enough today to notice there was a dowsers forum on here. I'm not new to dowsing and have been doing it off and on since childhood (40 now) and have always used coat hangers with relative success. There are a lot of interesting posts in this thread that I would love to add or comment on but I will add to them at a later time as it is getting late here. Anyway, I thought I would include a post that I submitted on another site after reading several post from the skeptics of dowsing and felt that it would fit into this thread also because it does have a bit of a tutorial in it that may be very helpful to those of you that are new to dowsing or wonder why you may be having problems with accuracy.

Now the skeptics were talking about mounting the rods in a block of wood, and joking about ppl talking to the rods, just to clear up some confusion you may have about the content and direction of some of the post.

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Ok it seems all of the skeptics think the rods are what does the locating when in reality it has nothing to do with the rods or a pendulum. Dowsing and divining is based on a psychic phenomenon known as ESP (extrasensory perception). The human body is the locating device. The rods are merely tools for identifying the minute signals received by your body.

It’s kind of like using a windsock to determine which way the wind is blowing. If you are standing in the middle of a paved parking lot with no visible ques to determine the direction, you can guess but you may be off 30 degrees in one direction or the other. To get an accurate reading you have to use a tool. So you pull out a windsock, piece of string, strip of ribbon or flag, blow smoke or toss some powder in the air to determine the absolute wind direction.

This is basically what the rods do, they are the pointing tools to show you direction and/or target location. I have read articles (GPAA Pick and Shovel Gazzet) about dowsers that could dowse barehanded. They were so self-aware that they could recognize small changes in heat sensations on their hand when the target was located.

Mounting the 2 rods on a board, defeats the purpose of having 2 independent rods and yes, they will both swing in the same direction when the angle of the board changes. Doing so is equivalent to mounting your metal detector to a fixture, turning it on and expecting it to locate an object w/o any further human interaction. Its not going to locate anything unless you pick it up and swing it side to side while walking in some direction. In the same sense dowsing rods won’t work unless they are held independently, one in each hand.

Talking to the rods: Yes you have to talk to them (actually you talk to yourself but…). If you want to know the answer you have to ask the question. For dowsing rods or pendulums to give you an answer, you have to ask the question. Let’s say you want to dowse a park for old coins. You drive to the park and look over the area you want to dowse while taking a few minutes to meditate and tune into the psyche. Yes, mood and mindset matters and you have to be tuned in. When you are ready you hold the rods in front of you and level them out parallel to each other. Now with out taking any steps you ask the question. “In what direction can I find an old coin in this area of the park?” While standing there you repeat the question several times (the good news is you don’t have to talk out loud, you can think the question also). After a minute or 2 your rods will begin to swing. If they both swing in the same direction, (lets say they both swing and point to the right 15 to 20 degrees) you start walking in the direction they point. Sometimes only one will point in the direction you need to go.

Now you have to tell the rods what to do when the item is located. So you tell them, “when over the location of the item (Old coin) the rods will cross”. You also have to continue asking for direction of the item while telling the rods what to do when you locate it. As you get closer to the item the rods will slowly start to cross. If you walk past the item the rods will over cross and swing as far back as they can until they lay against your chest. Mark the spot where they crossed on the ground. Walk about 10 paces beyond the point you marked and start again. If the rods cross at a distance away from the first location, mark the second location. Now you want to turn 90 degrees left or right and walk 10 paces and start again.

So if your first line was north to south, your second line would be south to north, 3rd line east to west, 4th line west to east. Now you should have 4 marks on the ground. If you draw a line from one to the other to form a cross, your target should be at the X. Some say the distance between each mark is how deep the target is in the ground or from the height of the rods. Another way to find out the depth is to stand over the target and once again ask the question and give the command, “How deep below the surface is the object? As I count the rods will cross when I reach the number that relates to the depth in inches”. Now you slowly start counting while pausing between numbers to allow the rods to react. When you get to the depth the rods will cross, if you count past the depth, the rods will open again.

Now you can dig up your target or go back the truck for your metal detector to see if the rods were right. The only problem with depending on the detector is if the coin you located was an old wooden nickel or plastic coin some kid lost. Its still an old coin although it may not have value. So in answering the question about dowsing rods being discriminating, yes they are. They will locate only what you ask it to locate and discriminate out everything else. Be it power lines, sewer lines, water for a well, gold, silver, keys, watches, rings, gem stones or what ever you desire to locate. That’s what you will locate.

Bottom line: Dowsing Rods do not locate the target, your body and subconscious mind do the locating. Dowsing Rods are merely visual tools for the dowser to use to recognize a target’s location. Metal detectors wont work unless you turn it on and swing it while walking, Dowsing rods wont work unless you have faith, ask the questions and give commands. Kinda like a calculator, you need an answer to a problem, you input a command, and you get a result. The problem with skeptics is they want results that are repeatable any time/every time. Psyche or ESP doesn’t work that way. Its not something that can be turned on and off like the flip of a switch. Your body and mind has to be in tune with nature just as your metal detector has to be balanced to the mineral content of the soil in the area you are searching.

Another problem is that people are lazy or in a hurry. They want to be able to flip a switch and have a device tell then where the biggest chunk of gold or a huge cash of treasure is buried and how deep it is. They want to be able to drive up to it in the truck and not have to walk more than 20 feet off the road or dig more than an inch below the dirt for it. Also they don’t want to have to spend more than a few minutes out in the field looking for the treasure before moving on to the next hoard of treasure. What they don’t consider is that it takes hours to walk a field with a metal detector to cover the whole area. While it can be dowsed in a few minutes that requires walking a portion of the area and not having to dig up 40 cans, bottle caps and gum wrappers to find 1 ring or coin.

Are you still a skeptic about dowsing or even ESP? Think about how many times you have been in a restaurant or bar and had the feeling someone you couldn’t see was watching or starring at you and you turn around to see who it is. How did you know what direction to look? I would say you dowsed the person starring with out the use of tools.

Very good analogy of dowsing….I can tell by your post that you are a dowser.
I always work off a North-South line. The way you squared the object is the only way I can mark anything when I use one rod.

The frame in post 9 is a simple thing that proves that Idomotor Response is not the way all dowsing works...Art

Hello from a new member and excited one at that. I stumbled onto this site a few weeks ago
and have been going over the old posts and would like to share some info on what I learned in the eighties(b4 internet)
Good water runs north to south
Hard water runs east to west
Oil south of the equator runs toward the equator
Oil north of the equator runs away from the equator

(If my memory serves me right)
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that being said here is yet another theory of why dowsing works
Our body runs on a minute amount of electricity(some say 55mgheritz I believe, for a healthy body)and the more diseased one is, the lower the amount.Each object has a frequency of its own and the larger it is the frequency changes.According to this theory the body has the ability to either raise or lower the frequency simply by thinking of an object. If interested in tossing ideas about this theory back and forth   please respond
mike

Dowsing Rods and Aura's

Why do I mention Dowsing Rods and Aura's? I didn't know anything about Aura's and didn't believe or disbelieve in them until I came upon a web site named Dowsing Rods and Aura's. An Aura is simply a magnet field around your body. Heres a little test you can try if you have learned to use your dowsing rods

Have a person stand in front of you. Walk slowly toward them and when your rods cross you are inside of their aura.Now back up slowly until your rods open and then close to a vee. This is the outer edge of the aura.

Now have the person focus on different emotions and measure their field simply by staying in front of them. First I have the person focus on anger.I give them a few minutes to focus and ask them to think about something that makes them angry.

I have to move forward to make the rods form a vee because anger makes the aura shrink.I then ask them to think of something that makes them very happy. Give them a few minutes and you will have to move way backwards to form the vee because happyness expands the aura way passed where the normal aura was.

Have them think of stress and love and see what happens..Have Fun....Art

I know this is an old post, but I only just found it! 

Here's something I saw (experienced, really) with L-rods and the aura.  The dowser brought the rods close to me and I saw them "open up" when they were about 8-10 inches from me.  He backed off, and they came back to "straight forward" in his hands.

Then he had me "close a window" in front of myself.  No, not an actual window - like a mime, I guess.  So, I "closed the window in front of me."  He repeated his action of bringing the rods closer to me, but this time, they didn't "open up" - but actually touched my arm.  Then he had me "open" that fool imaginary window again, and then the rods parted ways again as they were brought close to my person.  It was almost as if "closing yourself off" was counter-productive, but "opening yourself up" (opening that window) was more, uh - protection (?)  to your person.

It was wild. 

Nan

Hey Nan…Have some one take a set of rods and have them think of something bad that has happened to them. Have them walk toward a wall. Note where the rods close if they do. Now have them think of some thing happy and do the same thing. …Art

Hey Nan…Have some one take a set of rods and have them think of something bad that has happened to them. Have them walk toward a wall. Note where the rods close if they do. Now have them think of some thing happy and do the same thing. …Art

Will do.  Shoot, I'll do it too.   

Nan

Once in a while I get the feeling that the rods are not working properly. I hang both rods down at my side for a few minutes and then they will work properly. I don’t know if the rods have built up an electric charge or something else is happening. I don’t care what is happening as long as I know how to fix the problem…Art

I used a voltmeter and did some testing on a few different rods. What I found was the voltage seemed to short-out when I held my arm a few inches away and parallel with the rod, basically the same thing as holding the rod down next to you leg. Al Rossmiller said you should always start the search with the rod down. Also the earth's magnetic field causes magnetic induction on all vertical surfaces, including humans.

Intresting you said that mike, I was playing around with a meter yesterday around a target, and when I inserted the probes into the ground the rods lost the signal.

Mike

Hey bigm…..Could you and Mike try something for me….When the rods are crossed lift a one foot off the ground and tell me what happens…Art

 I agree with most of the posts here. I could add more info, but won't right now. I can tell you
that I have been involved in dowsing some 15 years and know why it works and don't for some
people. I also know how to increase the the power. Practice is what works best, whether using
a metal detector or dowsing rods. Practice makes perfect is the best policy. I have used L rods,
pendulums, single rods and others. All work in varying degrees. One may work in some situations
better than others. Each has its own strong points. I have seen some people use a pendulum, but could not use a L rod, and vice versa. It all depends on how they are used.

Art, I didn't try it with two rods, just one and an electrostatic detector. Standing six feet away from the meter I could slide my stocking foot on the carpet and get the needle to move a bit. When I lifted up my foot the meter pegged hard down to zero. That has to mean a field collapse.

One time I was up in the mountains in a rainstorm and just thrown my timecard into the boss's pick-up. Before I could get the door closed a bolt of lightning moved across the sky directly above me. ZAP! For some reason I felt it in both hands even though my right hand was free. That can easily kill. Electrostatic charge can contain huge amount of power. Anyone who thinks an ES charge can't move/influence the rods just won't admit the truth.

So I guess the question is Does the field collapse act like one cycle of a pulse induction metal detector and leave the signature eddy/vortex of any nearby metallic targets?  All fields have lines of force.

Thanks Mike….When on a signal line and I raise either foot the rods will open. Just like I turned a light switch off. That tells me that the signal is flowing through my body and I just disconnected it. When using man made signal lines they will remain closed...Art

 My dowsing Tips are:
1) before starting, rub your hands together to get your circulation flowing good. Older people especially don't have good circulation,and winter makes it worse
2) drink a fluid with high acetic acid,any kind of fruit juice(orange,tomato,grapefruit,lemonade,etc) encreases your electrolytes
3)start in a north/south orientation
4)clear your mind, then visualize the desired target with your eyes closed.This will
help keep you from forming an opionion of the area before you start
5)wear the thinnest soled shoes possible,barefoot is best
6) if using one rod,keep other arm at your side with finger seperated
7) if using two rods,try always to look at a spot between the rods,while visualizing
the target. Hope this helps. Good luck.

Hey bigm…..Could you and Mike try something for me….When the rods are crossed lift a one foot off the ground and tell me what happens…Art
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sorry about the delay, the weather hasnt been too good, and I havent been on the board
I forgot about lifting the leg, will redo it tomorrow.
However , just by using one rod while the other one is down , the rod tracks the target.
Art something is happening when I use the rods , After just a few minutes of holding the rods my strength just leaves me and I get real weak, especially if I just hold the right handed rod. Like a car running out of gas.
Have you ever come across this?
mike

I've noticed at times when I wasn't getting "circulation", meaning the energy was not flowing in through my left side. The opposite hand should not be touching anything (unless a sample), even keep fingers seperate.

Art, I jumped up (both feet off the floor) and the meter pegged to the positive side. Reminds me of those ground antenna experiments.   

Ground antenna experiments.
Check out Observation #3. It sure reminds me of the sweep technique with a rod.

http://www.borderlands.com/newstuff/research/ground-ant.htm
 

Being a male, Dont you feel like barking when lifting one foot off the floor, or do you dowse.??

I know at least two devices which use the ground antenna. Louis Matacia did some work with them, even partially describes how to build one in his "Finding Treasure". He uses an L-rod to find the line, but he said some people can hold their hand out and feel it.   

Hey Ladies and gentlemen……After much thought I have decided that I should add a little to this thread. My dowsing position used to be with my arms at shoulder height and push out as far as I could. My 14 ¾ inch rods would be closed when my heel was on the target. After having a stroke and finding that the rods would not work I had to make some changes.
My new position is with my elbows tight against my rib cage. I now need to use a 9 ½ inch rod….Art

When using two rods, when you get a signal the rods will close. If you drop one rod to your side the remaining rod will be pointing the direction to the target. Bring the rod back up  and then turn 90 degrees to face the target. The rods will open. Move your hands inward until the rods make a vee about 1 inch from the tips touching. Now follow the signal keep the rods in that position. It takes a lot of practice but is a lot quicker…Art

Art,

I shall help to keep this visible.  After reading this thread I did some more research on dowsing and was able to watch several youtube videos on this method and have become fired up about it and am going to learn this valuable technique.  Thanks a million, which could very well one day be rather literal.

Hey Ryan. …Dowsing is just another tool. Practice it until you understand what the rods are telling you. They can save you a lot of time in your searches. Did you know that some of use can drive down the highway at 60 miles MPH and get a signal . I then go down the road for another couple of miles and turn around. I return at 30 miles an hour and take a GPS reading every time the rod closes. If there is a road running the same direction up to 6 miles away I then go there and repeat my search. I then go home and put the GPS readings on Google earth.. I have narrowed my search area way down before I have to ask for permission to look around and all the other hassels…Art

Art,

That is completely amazing.  I am also going to try to use a pendulum and see if I can use it to dowse a map.  One day I hope to be a dowsing master.

Remember you can't be totally passive, you have to project your thought energy out the end of the rod (wave guide) sort of like a search light. I know most people do not think thought energy is real, but it definitely is. It's the same thing as light energy, only very weak. I'm talking about primary light (invisible). Your thought energy affects the target's field. The target's gravity pulls in some of your energy and resonates. The right side of your body is the transmitter and the left side the receiver. You might try placing your right foot out in front to get more effect.

So is this PMA (positive mental attitude) as well as actually thinking about what it is that you are trying to find, because at this point in time after reading everything I can about dowsing and how it will help you in your treasure hunting I am feeling really warm and fuzzy like I am on top of the world even though I haven't tried anything yet.

If you get mentally/logically involved you get in the way. The naysayers cannot understand this. There are two sides to your brain and you want to get away from the logical, left side. Some people use a witness/sample to help distance themself from the mental process. The idea is to be aware, be waiting for the resonance when your thought energy and the target link. Meditation practice can help keep your mind clear. So you practice until you can do it without thinking about it. When you catch yourself thinking about it you have to stop thinking. This takes weeks of daily practice to learn but don't overdo it. Twenty minutes at a time, a couple times a day is enough at first. There are many variables and if you are having a hard time, take a break and come back in an hour.  It can be extremely frustrating to learn on your own. Keep your practice area small. maybe 20 by 20 feet. Mark your lines and after ten minutes if you haven't found it get out your metal detector and then check to see where you went right and where you went wrong.

Meditation is essential for expanded (higher) consciousness. No doubt many dowsers do not realize they are in a meditation state and they poo-poo the idea. Or maybe they don't have time to learn and can't dowse at all. I think some people think "meditation" is a dirty word. Nothing is farther from the truth. Not only is it a beautiful place to be, but it is healthy and can relieve stress. There are devices that monitor your body and help you reach "nirvana". Brainwave monitors, GSR (galvanic skin response), even heart rate variability sensors all can help. There's one product called Healing Rhythms you can hook up to your computer that teaches you the "heart breath".  When you inhale your heart rate increases and when you exhale it decreases. The amout of increase is directly related to your overall health and lifespan and you can improve this once you become aware of it. And with practice you can reach the state quickly. some people almost instantly.

Fred Stewart says if you start to learn dowsing at age five and practice every healthy day. by the time you hit 30 years old you should be an accomplished dowser. I've read the same thing about becomming a Yogi. fifteen years of doing nothing else.

Funny thing is the people who claim they don't have time seem to have ample time to criticize others on the forums.

I received an e-mail from a gentleman that was having no luck with the dowsing rods…I thought my answer should be here…

Hey Lonnie….You tried the Dowsing rods and they would not cross for you. Try this. Make another set of rods from coat hangers. The long side should be around 17 inches long.  Place a coin on the floor. Put your heel on the coin. Pull your hands back against your sides. Now slowly push your hands forward as far as you can reach.  If they don’t cross cut 1 inch from each rod and try it again. Keep doing this until they start to move inward. Now cut ¼ inch at a time from the rod until they cross. I have found that there are two positions that I can repeat every time. One is with my hands and arms pushed out as far as I can and the other is with my elbows tight against my ribs. Adjust the rods so that they are in a repeatable position when they cross. That way you will know that the target is under your foot.  E-mail me when you have done this experiment….Art

Now that you have you rods and body position so that the target will be under you heel ,I would like to give you a tip.  I have looked for Placer Gold most of my life in the California Mother Lode. There is still a lot of gold but there is also a ton of Micro Gold deposits. These small deposit   give off the same signal as 35 pounds of gold. Most of these deposits, but not all of them, are on top of the ground. After my rods have crossed I always back up a step and kick the spot a few times. Most of the Micro Gold will be gone so when I step back on the spot I can tell if it is a nugget or not…Art

One way to destroy a magnet is to strike it with a hammer.

I am a newbie to  this site and glad to see all this info on dowsing, which i have done in the passed with out much luck, but not knowing were to start was my down fall now after reading all that's posted here I will be trying it agen, i have all ways used a pendulum to fine spot on a map , but as you said it takes hours to fine it x now i will try the rods. thanks great post
Walt

Hey Walt…I put this on here for people like you. There are a lot of theories about Dowsing but this is how it works for me. One sentence can give someone the information that they need…..Art

Thanks for this thread Art. I enjoyed reading it. I need to practice more.

Can someone post pics of their rods?

This rod has a film canister on it for baiting different elements...Cheap and works....Art

Thanks for the pic.So, that does not look like a coat hanger... .Where did you get the rods? I went through the closet as soon as i read through this, and whadayaknow,not one metal coat hanger...lol

Teleprospector Built me a pair. A very nice pair. I just need to practice. I know dowsing works. I have seen it work with water . I Can't explain it scientifically but I know my cattle are drinking water. 

Hey Mr.Jody…That one is 3/16 brass. Metal coat hangers are getting harder to find every day. Any place where the employees wear uniforms should have a lot of them. My auto repair shop had stacks of them.
Ace Hardware is where I got the brass rod…Art

Thanks Victorio!
Jon

Hmmm.  Art, this has caused me to think some.  Perhaps the places I call or have been calling targets are simply signal lines.  I never knew or considered that without the use of a frequency emitter.  So now I get to go back out and try them spots again!  This time I will try the dropping a rod and see if the other points such and such direction.   

What you need to do is practice at home until you are sure what the rods are telling you. Once you get the rods the right lenght you will be digging smaller holes. You also need to bury something 2 feet deep so you will know where the rods should be when you have moved two feet...Art

Arkie, for people who are learning to dowse (read everyone), many times they fixate on the rod (or rods), sort of hypnotise themself and are glued there. You don't want to focus on the rod(s), you want to focus your awareness on the search area. Sometimes as soon as you take your focus off the rod it will swing to the target, actually to the edge of the target's field. 

Ladies and gentlemen...I am trying to get as much informaion on this thread as I can...

To prove that objects emit energy or a signal is simple. Use a quart jar. Take some liquid rubber and dab it onto the center of the lid. Pull it away from the lid to create a thin string that looks like the strand of a spider web. This is the hardest part of the test. Attach a 1/2 inch Alum foil disk to the rubber strand. Screw the lid on the jar.

Place a protractor on the table with the 90 degree mark pointing to north. Set the jar on the protractor and alien the disk in a north south direction. Place a gold nugget beside the jar on the 0 degree mark of the protractor and wait for the disk to turn. Now try placing other objects by the jar one at a time. I found that a slice of onion gave off the strongest signal of anything that I tried.

What turned the disk? I can only conclude that objects emit energy.....Art
 
 
   
 

Art, I apologize for not catching this thread before now.  This experiment of yours has tweaked my curiosity.  I was wondering if you would do me a favor and try this experiment using a cottonball soaked with ammonia instead of the onion.  I can't tell you why until after you try it.  I don't want to influence the results in any way. 

I know, I know, it sounds strange.....but there is a method to my madness on this one.  If you will, let me know what your result is.  You can PM me if you would rather not post the result until after you know the reason for my request.

Thanks, in advance.......

Judy
 

Hey Judy…I certainly will give it a try….It may take a few weeks to put one of these jars together ( the rubber string is so hard to make).. I don’t know how they did it in the 1930’s with what they had to work with…Art

Thank you, Art.  I am looking forward to hearing your results.  And there is no hurry at all, just whenever you can get to it. 

Are you still doing the demonstrations/ experiments for the schoolkids?  If so, I may have a neat one you can do for them.


Judy

Hey Judy…I moved here about 2 years ago. I have not done any demonstration since moving here.  Would love to here bout your ideas as I love to experiment…Art

Art, been practicing with rods that teleprospector made for me. I always pass by the target but never over it. I'm always to the side of it. " WHY " .  I'm really trying to learn.

Hey Victioro….Take masking tape and put a large X on the rug or on the patio. Use a compass to put the tape in a North-South and East- West positions…Put a target in the middle of the X then walk a few feet from the target. When the rods close mark the spot. Do this on all four ends of the tape. Tell me if they are crossing the same distance from the masking tape each time. Then put your heel on the target. If the rods are not crossed move your arms in and out and see if there is one spot where they are crossed. Let us know how this experiment comes out…Art

Vic, the response you are getting is nothing unusual. If you are getting a response as you walk by the target, you just need to stop and search to your left and right at that point to narrow it down. It sounds to me like you are picking up the magnetic images like Abbe Mermet talks about in his book.  If you are seeing a row of hotspots evenly spaced, you have magnetic images. These are usually worst in strong sunlight, so you might try a different time of day or different weather, etc.

For me, I try to look for the edges of the target's field first. These are easier to detect than the target itself. There's usually more than one spot. In other words, don't assume the first spot is the exact pinpoint but be sure to put a marker there, anyway.