Posts: 1843
colorado plateau
|
 |
Posted Jan 15, 2009, 01:08:25 PM |
|
i have had this piece for quite some time...was repacking my kit and found it again.  hand formed out of a silver coin, unsigned...probably early 1800's.( edit: late 1800, early 1900's) |
Sometimes I feel like the sane person in a community of the mad; sometimes I feel like the one blind man where all others see; the one groping savage in the college of the learned, and always, during service, I feel like a heretic in heaven.
- "At the Shrine of St. Wagner"
|
|
|
|
|
Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Jan 15, 2009, 02:58:24 PM |
|
Wow, that's really neat, thanks for sharing it!
|
|
|
|
|
Hunt, kneel, dig, pray Posts: 1362
Dayton, Oh
Detector used Whites M-6 with Bullseye Pinpointer
|
|
Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Jan 15, 2009, 04:37:21 PM |
|
That is so nice. I found an american indian ring once was like that piece--definately indian made.
SKD
|
______________
SoreKneesDayton
Whites M-6
|
|
|
|
|
This aint no damn flea circus!!! Posts: 3549
Livin' in a tar-paper shack in the woods of Eastern Idaho!
Detector used Fisher F70, Whites QXT, Garrett Pro-Pointer, "Mighty" Diggin' Tool
|
|
Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Jan 15, 2009, 04:55:06 PM |
|
That realy is sweet. Did you find it detecting?
|
"Agitate! Agitate! Ought to be the motto of every reformer. Agitation is the opposite of stagnation...... one is life, the other death."
-Ernestine L. Rose-
|
|
|
Posts: 1843
colorado plateau
|
|
Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Jan 15, 2009, 05:11:40 PM |
|
i found it in one of those trash piles composed of condensed milk and bean cans...eyeball find, whats that shiny thing?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posts: 9194
Ohio
Detector used Garrett 250
|
|
Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Jan 15, 2009, 05:49:29 PM |
|
Nice Indian silver..........  |
I've lost my touch !! I can't find anything this year!!!!!!!!
|
|
|
Posts: 1843
colorado plateau
|
|
Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Jan 15, 2009, 06:47:02 PM |
|
i put 1800's up there...duh...i agree..late 1800 early 1900's.
the photo does not do it justice...
this concho was beat out on a rail...and found within a mile of tracks that came through in 188o.
sante fe all the way!
|
|
|
|
|
Posts: 7542
Bavaria Germany
Detector used Minelab XT70, White's XLT, Fisher 1280, Garrett Ace 250 and MH5
|
|
Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 12:00:22 AM |
|
Very awesome piece, it is from a horse harness. I find them often here in Germany but they are always brass. Congrats and HH, Mike
|
|
|
|
|
Dream Manufacturer Posts: 10843
A sparkling downward spiral constructed of beautiful music and bedraped in soft fabrics of every color
_____________  Western Advertising Mini Mug_____________
|
|
Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 08:49:03 AM |
|
That is a very nice piece. That has many things going for it, including the remnants of the coin stamping and the obviously hand cut slots.
That is one of those finds that makes me a little bit yealous. I have seen many many many can scatters, and have never found anything of that caliber in any of them.
It really embodies the classic Wild West.
You must be stopped!
|
"In this fragment, entitled "Wheaty Pennies of the Underground," this person introduces himself, his views, and tries to explain the causes owing to which he has made his appearance and was bound to make his appearance in our midst, talking about dirty wheaty pennies. -Editor"
|
|
|
|
|
Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 08:52:17 AM |
|
Nice piece..can you dertermine what the coin was originally?
|
The digger formerly known as romeo-1!
|
|
|
Posts: 1843
colorado plateau
|
|
Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 09:28:47 AM |
|
no luck in defining the coin used...the piece weighs 15.7 grams. short for a silver dollar...maybe an old peso?
|
|
|
|
|
Posts: 10650
Sand Springs, OK
Detector used ACE 250, Fisher 1280, BH (Radio Shack 3300) Minelab Safari
_____________ Gold Class Ring_____________
|
|
Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 09:40:43 AM |
|
I think it's called a "concho"? Monty
|
Don't make me loose the hounds! If you dig, Cover up your holes.
|
|
|
MUD(S.W.A.T) Posts: 5238
Location: Undisclosed
_____________ Old Gold Ring & Silver Coins_____________
|
|
Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 09:44:44 AM |
|
What makes you think its from a coin and not just a lump of silver. I don't see anything left from a coin, but I'm blind....  Keep @ it and HH!!   |
TAG: MUD(S.W.A.T)
GEAR: Whites, MXT
LOCATION: Undisclosed
EXPERIENCE: 6 Years +
E-MAIL: mudswat1979@yahoo.com
(7WarNic, 3 V-Nic, One1865 2cent, One1854 LC, 14 IH, 155+wheat cents,11tokens,10-SQ ,35-SD,1-SHD, 0-SD)
|
|
|
Let the earth yield its bootay! Arg! Posts: 336
Humble, Tx
Detector used Bounty Hunter IV
|
|
Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 10:02:43 AM |
|
Super cool |
YeeHaw!
|
|
|
AUT PAX AUT BELLUM Posts: 420
st.peterburg, florida, usa
Detector used TEJON
|
|
Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 10:04:51 AM |
|
one of the coolest finds i have seen!
|
"Nevermind maneuvers, just go at them!"
Admiral Nelson
|
|
|
Posts: 1843
colorado plateau
|
|
Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 10:51:00 AM |
|
thanks for the replies....
i believe it is an old coin...no identifying features are left, and i have used a 10x numerous times to study the piece.
it weighs 15.7 grams, less than most coins, just shy of an 1870's peso.
the irregularities around the rim suggest to me it was made from something else.
the amount of work that went into this piece, hammer marks, also suggest it was not a flat sheet formed into a disk.
i have made conchos from flat sheet, and it is fairly simple, not requiring the amount of time spent on this piece.
i guess i am basing my opinion on the "feel" of the piece, the location of the find, and my own familiarity with navajo jewelry...
again, thanks for the response
|
|
|
|
|
Posts: 7542
Bavaria Germany
Detector used Minelab XT70, White's XLT, Fisher 1280, Garrett Ace 250 and MH5
|
|
Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 11:09:25 AM |
|
The lesser weight of a silver dollar may be from the slits cut for the strap. It has been obviously hammered like you said. Just out of curiosity, I wonder what that historical piece would be appraised at? Have you ever considered that maybe a harness was through in that dump and there could be another one? HH and interesting piece, Mike
|
|
|
|
|
Posts: 1843
colorado plateau
|
|
Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 11:18:48 AM |
|
i have gone back to the site several times...only broken glass and tins...no leather remains at all? i first thought it was a saddle bag decoration...then saddle trim... those navajo ladies loved their concho belts...there should have been other pieces in that dump, but nooooooo  |
|
|
|
|
Posts: 16673
Shelbyville, Kentucky or any place I can detect !!!
Detector used ace 250
_____________ Banner Stone_____________
|
|
Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 12:00:46 PM |
|
very neat find...any ideal of what type of silver coin its made from ?
|
ALLEN
|
|
|
Posts: 1156
Rio Rancho, NM (Albuquerque)
Detector used X-terra 70
|
|
Reply To This Topic #21 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 04:14:09 PM |
|
One of my wifes, cousins, husband used to make those back in the 70's. He mostly used mexican coin it was cheaper in cost.
|
Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know. Vietnam # 10 G.I.
|
|
|
|
|
Reply To This Topic #22 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 04:22:41 PM |
|
|
Finding The Past...That the Futures Forgotton.
|
|
|
MINELAB SOVEREIGN USER Posts: 24457
Joliett
Detector used MINELAB
|
|
Reply To This Topic #23 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 04:43:09 PM |
|
Beautiful Piece |
"Half of writing history is hiding the truth"
— Joss Whedon
|
|
|
|
|
Posts: 97
Cape Coral, FL
Detector used White's DFX & Tesoro Silver Umax
|
|
Reply To This Topic #25 Posted Jan 19, 2009, 08:54:26 AM |
|
Excellent Find!!!
|
|
|
|
|
Posts: 167
Cochise County, Arizona
|
|
Reply To This Topic #26 Posted Jan 20, 2009, 05:28:41 PM |
|
Great find! |
|
|
|
|
Posts: 4530
Ct
Detector used Whites Spectrum XLT
|
|
Reply To This Topic #27 Posted Jan 20, 2009, 06:45:52 PM |
|
Wow, really nice find. Congrats. |
Freedom is Never Free.
|
|
|
Posts: 1843
colorado plateau
|
|
Reply To This Topic #28 Posted Jan 20, 2009, 07:12:15 PM |
|
thanks everyone.
just one of those finds during a duh moment...staring at a pile of rusty cans and broken glass.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Reply To This Topic #29 Posted Jan 24, 2009, 09:24:24 AM |
|
nice
|
|
|
|
|
Professional fine jewelery and precious gemstone retrieval and recovery technician Posts: 595
Seminole, Florida
Detector used Whites DFX fine jewelery extraction device
|
|
Reply To This Topic #30 Posted Apr 24, 2009, 01:51:16 PM |
|
Incredible artifact. I love it! That is a dream find! Keep it forever and pass it along to your family! It is a sacred piece!  |
|
|
|
|
Professional fine jewelery and precious gemstone retrieval and recovery technician Posts: 595
Seminole, Florida
Detector used Whites DFX fine jewelery extraction device
|
|
Reply To This Topic #31 Posted Apr 24, 2009, 02:30:10 PM |
|
I would get a really nice shadow box for that one and put it somewhere safe! I really really like that item!  |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Reply To This Topic #32 Posted May 02, 2009, 08:07:42 AM |
|
very nice
|
|
|
|
|
|
