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Posted Jan 15, 2009, 01:08:25 pm

i have had this piece for quite some time...was repacking my kit and found it again.  tongue3
hand formed out of a silver coin, unsigned...probably early 1800's.( edit: late 1800, early 1900's)
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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Jan 15, 2009, 02:58:24 pm

Wow, that's really neat, thanks for sharing it!
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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Jan 15, 2009, 04:37:21 pm

That is so nice. I found an american indian ring once was like that piece--definately indian made.

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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Jan 15, 2009, 04:53:04 pm

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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Jan 15, 2009, 04:55:06 pm

That realy is sweet. Did you find it detecting?

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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Jan 15, 2009, 05:11:40 pm

i found it in one of those trash piles composed of condensed milk and bean cans...eyeball find, whats that shiny thing?
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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Jan 15, 2009, 05:46:43 pm

Very Cool! thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Jan 15, 2009, 05:49:29 pm

Nice Indian silver..........  thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Jan 15, 2009, 06:47:02 pm

i put 1800's up there...duh...i agree..late 1800 early 1900's.
the photo does not do it justice...
this concho was beat out on a rail...and found within a mile of tracks that came through in 188o.
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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 12:00:22 am

Very awesome piece, it is from a horse harness.  I find them often here in Germany but they are always brass.  Congrats and HH, Mike
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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 08:52:17 am

Nice piece..can you dertermine what the coin was originally?

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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 09:28:47 am

no luck in defining the coin used...the piece weighs 15.7 grams. short for a silver dollar...maybe an old peso?
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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 09:40:43 am

I think it's called a "concho"?  Monty

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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 09:44:44 am

What makes you think its from a coin and not just a lump of silver. I don't see anything left from a coin, but I'm blind....  icon_scratch

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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 10:02:43 am

Super cool  thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 10:04:51 am

one of the coolest finds i have seen!

Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 10:51:00 am

thanks for the replies....
i believe it is an old coin...no identifying features are left, and i have used a 10x numerous times to study the piece.
it weighs 15.7 grams, less than most coins, just shy of an 1870's peso.

the irregularities around the rim suggest to me it was made from something else.
the amount of work that went into this piece, hammer marks, also suggest it was not a flat sheet formed into a disk.
i have made conchos from flat sheet, and it is fairly simple, not requiring the amount of time spent on this piece.

i guess i am basing my opinion on the "feel" of the piece, the location of the find, and my own familiarity with navajo jewelry...

again, thanks for the response
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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 11:09:25 am

The lesser weight of a silver dollar may be from the slits cut for the strap.  It has been obviously hammered like you said.  Just out of curiosity, I wonder what that historical piece would be appraised at?  Have you ever considered that maybe a harness was through in that dump and there could be another one?  HH and interesting piece, Mike 

Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 11:18:48 am

i have gone back to the site several times...only broken glass and tins...no leather remains at all?
i first thought it was a saddle bag decoration...then saddle trim...
those navajo ladies loved their concho belts...there should have been other pieces in that dump, but nooooooo
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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 12:00:46 pm

very neat find...any ideal of what type of silver coin its made from ?

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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 04:14:09 pm

One of my wifes, cousins, husband used to make those back in the 70's. He mostly used mexican coin it was cheaper in cost.

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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 04:22:41 pm

That's one of the best American artifacts I have seen posted on here Shocked Shocked Shocked I also think it should be on the BANNER thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #22 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 04:43:09 pm

Beautiful Piece  thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #23 Posted Jan 16, 2009, 04:59:19 pm

thanks jeff, everyone.
monty, yes, i call this a concho...? perhaps conchas?
similar item scroll down on the right column

http://www.native-american-market.com/concha_belts.html

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Reply To This Topic #24 Posted Jan 19, 2009, 08:54:26 am


Excellent Find!!!
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Reply To This Topic #25 Posted Jan 20, 2009, 05:28:41 pm

Great find!  thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #26 Posted Jan 20, 2009, 06:45:52 pm

Wow, really nice find. Congrats.  thumbsup

Reply To This Topic #27 Posted Jan 20, 2009, 07:12:15 pm

thanks everyone.
just one of those finds during a duh moment...staring at a pile of rusty cans and broken glass.
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Reply To This Topic #28 Posted Jan 24, 2009, 09:24:24 am

nice
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Reply To This Topic #29 Posted Apr 24, 2009, 01:51:16 pm

Incredible artifact. I love it! That is a dream find! Keep it forever and pass it along to your family! It is a sacred piece! icon_sunny
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Reply To This Topic #30 Posted Apr 24, 2009, 02:30:10 pm

I would get a really nice shadow box for that one and put it somewhere safe! I really really like that item! wav
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Reply To This Topic #31 Posted May 02, 2009, 08:07:42 am

very nice
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