HOW ABOUT GUN SECTION

Do we need a rifle and pistol section on the boards?   

Lot of post on rifles, pistols, and personal defense
weapons.


all have a good un...........
SHERMANVILLE

Not a bad idea Sherman!

     LOL I just posted this about an hour ago

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index....c,212515.msg1529415.html#msg1529415

savant365,
yes, we seem to be getting more and more
post like yours.   

Perhaps a new board would help. 

have a good un......
SHERMANVILLE

Sounds like a winner      I vote yes

seger98, savant365, willie d,

perhaps if more folks like the idea.....,
those who have the POWER , will give
it a thought.

all have a good un.......
SHERMANVILLE

Sherman, wot-n-l are you waiting for, DO IT !

Don Jose d e La Mancha

I think it is a great idea!
Baggins

I think its a great idea!!!!

I agree!

Nice finds!!!  

Seriously, I think its a good idea, have noticed many threads here concerning firearms. May the powers that be make it so.



Edited due to hitting post button too quick.

I am very happy to add that a firearms section would make me VERY happy. I am a collector and self proclaimed know it all so I would like to see this area added so that I may bookmark and post in it almost obsessively.

I should add that, If a forum like that was made for firearms, it would attract more people to the site that could be a real asset to the rest of us that need things identified that we find, wheather we find relics, bullets & more! Just my opinion

silver is good.... ooops that was another post.

texastee2007,
 
"Silver is always nice."   

have a good un....
SHERMANVILLE

silver is good.... ooops that was another post.

LOL


Actually, I'm surprised that there isn't a Firearm section considering how many gun related posts I've read. I mean if there are Posts for Marbles, Phychics , etc....Firearms seems a natural.



 Jay




 

got my vote

 Yea, I'm all for it, too! Just go for it. Rockhound

Do we need a rifle and pistol section on the boards?   

Lot of post on rifles, pistols, and personal defense
weapons.


all have a good un...........
SHERMANVILLE

HERE HERE

I agree. Good suggestion.

Just another Tool!    I say YEP!   

Just another Tool!    I say YEP!   

What he said x 2.

I think there is sufficient demand and It would be quite informative. 

Being an NRA life member I am all for the Firearms section.  The life you save could be your own.

Hello gang,
I think it is a great idea.
I helped my uncle in his Gun Repair Shop for years, and guns have their place at times in the
T'Hunting or MD'ing field.
Guns are still found in the ground and inside the walls of old houses, and we can use every one's opinion about them.

Big Mike

Only around 22 folks think it is a good idea.

Don't think that will convince the powers that be.   

Bump

all have a good un...
SHERMANVILLE

23 Sherm.

I think that would make a fine addition to this great site ...#24 here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 This is one reason why we need this addition. I would like to see more information about this picture posted by gtlfindings!! Nice pic. 

This is one reason why we need this addition. I would like to see more information about this picture posted by gtlfindings!! Nice pic. 

Hey Berk I have a post about it here:
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,208489.0.html

Still trying to find some one to preserve it!!

gtl........  Fantastic find. Thanks for posting the link. I don't know much about preserving, but I wouldn't touch it with steel wool. I think I would coat it with oil and leave it at that until someone that really knew what they were doing had a look at it. Please post more info. when you get it. Thanks again!  berk.........

Got the count up;               27 folks who like the idea.

Think we still need more if we want to ask
for weapons section.

Noticed two new post floating around on handguns. 


all have a good un.....
SHERMANVILLE

Sherm............Im with ya on this one!

Mike

28 and this post is dying.
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I would like to see one..

Count me in
Any expert advise on one of these?

need more photos of the  cartouche markings

This section is needed on Tnet!

One more ... FOR. 

Got it up to 32 folks who seem interested.

Yes!   One of my best friends is a firearm!

"I will not give up my firearm (metal detector) till they pry it from my cold, dead fingers"

"It is better to have a firearm (metal detector) and not need it,  Than to need a firearm (metal detector) and not have it"

See!!!!!    Tetctin' and weapons go hand in hand!

Include all weapons such as knives, swords, and primitives as well.

Bump

        33 folks.

all have a good un..
SHERMANVILLE

i think its a must

guns are icky

Shermanville - Since this thread originated in Illinois I was wondering how many times I could vote yes and have them count? 

guns are icky

or buy a charter membership 

or buy a charter membership 

I prefer the term "contribution" over "buy". I think I'm getting the hang of it already. 

  Yes!! You have my vote.

I vote for guns.

"coin shooters" is that like a shotgun full of dimes?

Grey

I vote yes!

as a note it wouldn't be just  "HEY LOOK AT MY POP GUN"
legal issues and new legislation etc could/would be discussed

Do we need a rifle and pistol section on the boards?   

Lot of post on rifles, pistols, and personal defense
weapons.


all have a good un...........
SHERMANVILLE

THAT SOUNDS COOL, BUT IM AFRAID OF PEOPLE KNOWING WHAT I HAVE AT HOME! BRAKE IN'S?

Do we need a rifle and pistol section on the boards?   

Lot of post on rifles, pistols, and personal defense
weapons.


all have a good un...........
SHERMANVILLE

THAT SOUNDS COOL, BUT IM AFRAID OF PEOPLE KNOWING WHAT I HAVE AT HOME! BRAKE IN'S?

How are they going to know where you live?   

Do we need a rifle and pistol section on the boards?   

Lot of post on rifles, pistols, and personal defense
weapons.


all have a good un...........
SHERMANVILLE

THAT SOUNDS COOL, BUT IM AFRAID OF PEOPLE KNOWING WHAT I HAVE AT HOME! BRAKE IN'S?

How are they going to know where you live?   

YOUR NAME WHAT YOU POST AND WHERE YOU FOUND IT, THEY CAN FIND OUT WHAT TOWN YOU LIVE.?? or can they??

Do we need a rifle and pistol section on the boards?   

Lot of post on rifles, pistols, and personal defense
weapons.


all have a good un...........
SHERMANVILLE

THAT SOUNDS COOL, BUT IM AFRAID OF PEOPLE KNOWING WHAT I HAVE AT HOME! BRAKE IN'S?

How are they going to know where you live?   

YOUR NAME WHAT YOU POST AND WHERE YOU FOUND IT, THEY CAN FIND OUT WHAT TOWN YOU LIVE.?? or can they??

But the only thing we know about you is your name.... Ink-a-lot. It's not obvious where you live or what your real name is.     

Do we need a rifle and pistol section on the boards?   

Lot of post on rifles, pistols, and personal defense
weapons.


all have a good un...........
SHERMANVILLE

THAT SOUNDS COOL, BUT IM AFRAID OF PEOPLE KNOWING WHAT I HAVE AT HOME! BRAKE IN'S?

How are they going to know where you live?   

YOUR NAME WHAT YOU POST AND WHERE YOU FOUND IT, THEY CAN FIND OUT WHAT TOWN YOU LIVE.?? or can they??

But the only thing we know about you is your name.... Ink-a-lot. It's not obvious where you live or what your real name is.     

could you do me a favor? click on my profile and see if you can see my email adress, my email is my name, it should be hidden from every body.

Do we need a rifle and pistol section on the boards?   

Lot of post on rifles, pistols, and personal defense
weapons.


all have a good un...........
SHERMANVILLE

THAT SOUNDS COOL, BUT IM AFRAID OF PEOPLE KNOWING WHAT I HAVE AT HOME! BRAKE IN'S?

How are they going to know where you live?   

YOUR NAME WHAT YOU POST AND WHERE YOU FOUND IT, THEY CAN FIND OUT WHAT TOWN YOU LIVE.?? or can they??

But the only thing we know about you is your name.... Ink-a-lot. It's not obvious where you live or what your real name is.     

could you do me a favor? click on my profile and see if you can see my email adress, my email is my name, it should be hidden from every body.

I already did that before I started in on all this.  YOU can see your email address, the rest of us can't.  There isn't any personal info about you on your profile.  You're safe... 

Do we need a rifle and pistol section on the boards?   

Lot of post on rifles, pistols, and personal defense
weapons.


all have a good un...........
SHERMANVILLE

THAT SOUNDS COOL, BUT IM AFRAID OF PEOPLE KNOWING WHAT I HAVE AT HOME! BRAKE IN'S?

How are they going to know where you live?   

YOUR NAME WHAT YOU POST AND WHERE YOU FOUND IT, THEY CAN FIND OUT WHAT TOWN YOU LIVE.?? or can they??

But the only thing we know about you is your name.... Ink-a-lot. It's not obvious where you live or what your real name is.     

could you do me a favor? click on my profile and see if you can see my email adress, my email is my name, it should be hidden from every body.

I already did that before I started in on all this.  YOU can see your email address, the rest of us can't.  There isn't any personal info about you on your profile.  You're safe... 

thanks, well then im all for it cuzz i have a few guns that i would like to share.

I think it's a great idea as well.

I'm for it. Also could be used as a place to show that big buck or limit of ducks without upsetting the folks that dont hunt or like too...d2

Yes it would be a great idea. Count me as a yes vote and keep this going.

Hey GL is that a Fireball?
J-G

That is a Remington XP-100 custom in .243 Winchester with a scope and jeweled bolt. The stock was custom fit to the glass bedded, compensated 16in barrel. Truly a spectacular firearm in every respect. It even had gold inlaid engraving. I sold it online to a collector in New England for a grand. He got a deal.

Hopefully admin is aware of this idea and seriously considering it. There have been several firearms related posts. I think if it should become a reality that it may see more traffic than some of the other sections.

I would be there everyday like I am in the Indian Artifacts section. I have an enormous interest in firearms.

Seems to me that one of our Charter members could open a Personal Page and more or less focus on firearms, with Marc's permission of course.  You would need to moderate it and not create a load of grief for Marc, or he would simply pull the plug

Recently I became interested in Curio & Relics over 50yrs old and would enjoy discussing them here.

Good luck!
rmptr

Few more seem to be interested.


Just a bump...............

Perhaps some day.......................



all have a good un.......
SHERMANVILLE

Well?

Which Charter Member will take a step forward?   

There's lot's of support out there...




Guns, guns, guns

The Dallas Morning News is reporting that Palin sent a letter to 10,500 members of the Texas Federation of Republican Women endorsing the current governor.

“He walks the walk of a true conservative,” she said of Perry. “And he sticks by his guns – and you know how I feel about guns.”

Sure, we know.  We remember that photo of Palin wearing a red, white, and blue bikini posing with a gun. 
Oh yeah, that was a fake.
<eof>

The above is the newest fake.
Personally, I just don't find it disparaging.
It's a joke!


It seems Sarah has begun a PAC and her first effort with it was in Texas.
If someone begins the new forum I'll invite her to visit with us!

She's an outdoor person.  Gotta be interested in the things we do, right?

Best
rmptr

reload

double tap

Well, if there's sixteen men sitting on a dead man's chest, and I discover it with my metal detector,
I'll certainly hope for more than a cutlass to defend my chances of keeping it!

Once again, I do personally feel the law, prospecting and treasure hunting, and personal defense go together.

rmptr

Yes, I would like it very much!!

Sarah Palin has made big news again and wildlife friends are very much upset at her.

Seems Alaska State tracks and hunts wolves by helicopter.  Shoots 'em and then kills the whole den of wolf pups if they can find 'em.

Reason?

Someone determined  the wolves are eating a lot of elk and caribou.

Better to let people harvest the edible game.

It's been a standing policy in Alaska, nothing new.
Sarah has only allowed it to continue because it's needed.

Yet now, with a new face for the cartoons, like the minigun, the greenies are very excited.

I was dissappointed to see the very strong twist on these last two articles regarding Palin from the Christian Science Monitor.  It's always maintained a reputation for level headed accurate reporting that has never been inflammatory in any way.   Just the facts, ma'am.

Today, there seems to be a strong greenie persuasion to the articles impact.
I'm disappointed.
They've always done better than a cheap shot in the past.

A good thing eddes icky remark about guns does not previal among the police and military, where would we be now.
  i am all for it

seger98
savant365
willie d
Real de Tayopa
Baggins
snake35
gametalman52
DigginThePast
GL
Saturna
Paul in Wa
rockhound
EDDE
texastee2007
berkshiregold
homefires
truckinbutch
Goodyguy
Sandman
Heavy Chevy
warsawdaddy
just-geese
gtlfindings
mcgearhead
bbqbull
SC_hunter
Bumpstick
rwsnc
MEinWV
Mr. Peabody
Thompy
poppy in pa.
greydigger
RevJoel
ink-a-alot
dcinffxva
d2
bdbullets
history hunter
BLACKFOOT

                         SORRY ALL
No response from the powers that be.


all have a good un.............
SHERMANVILLE

     Whether it happens or not it would also be a good place to post hunting photos that not everyone wants to see.

HH Charlie

Sherm,

With very few exceptions, the owner of the board has really stayed out of things.
He makes an adjustment here and there, to improve his product, but that's abot all I've seen in my time as a guest here.

It drives him nuts when people begin to squabble and use profanity, or hostile behavior that departs from an informative and productive environment.

Family values and content are adhered to.

No news from the Big Guy is a good thing...

What we need is a Charter Member to request his own Personal Page and conduct firearms threads there.
..or one of us skinflints could purchase membership!  It IS a great bargain.

Although I personally think the Yamash*ta Treasure hoard is among the most entertaining on Tnet,
if a firearm thread were started I would suggest it include separate sections for pro and con in the fashion that dowsing and geophysics has been presented to prevent most outright conflicts.

There are obviously great differences in opinion, irrespective of the law.

All told, I think Marc would be pleased with participation as long as he does not incur liability or any increase in his level of stress due to maintenance concerns.

rmptr


JG...  Sure, I'll post a pic soon.

...if a firearm thread were started I would suggest it include separate sections for pro and con in the fashion that dowsing and geophysics has been presented to prevent most outright conflicts.

I don't think an Anti-firearms section is necessary. The Anti-dowsing section is pretty inactive. I think most would just ignore a Firearms forum if they weren't interested.



Jay

 

It was my thought if a cubby was included for the antithesis the page moderator could transfer any adverse opinions there, quickly, with a short explanation that "We here are all clinging to our religion and guns, you may go here and speak your piece."

A fairplay kinda thing.
(Not that it wasn't Samuel Colt who made all men equal.)

J-G, I got pics for you of the scope mount.









And here's a link to an article on precisely how to do it!
http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2005/mosinsniper/index.asp

Best
rmptr

Gosh, J-G...  That little sporter you got there is gonna be brisk to shoot!

Not sure if you know that, or not...

The 7.62x54R is actually a pretty hot round even though it was among the very first designed smokeless cartridges.

Look at it this way...   The AK is 7.62x39, the M-14 is x51, and the 30:06 is x63mm.
Generally speaking, bullet weight is around 130, 150, and 170, respectively.
We're talking rifles that weigh in at 8 to 9 1/2 lbs.  Your sporter is gonna be lite! 
Surplus ammo for the MN is 150 & 200gr.

Bannerman put out a lot of MN sporter conversions quite similar to yours.
(Of course they wouldn't have done the funky tapping job like that...)
I think they even rebarrelled them in 30.06...  see if an 06 round will chamber!
The barrel really should be stamped with the caliber, if anyone did so.

If you go to that link I posted, it shows that the mount is attached much lower,
and the stock must be inletted to accept it.

Your guy was just a hack and attempted to mount it too high, without inletting the stock.
Has your bolt been bent for scope use?  It's necessary.

...Let's see...  you can slug your bore using a 1/8oz lead egg fishing sinker, greased, and driven into the bore from the breech with pieces of 1/4" hardwood dowel.  Mic that for bore size.  Probably .310 to .312 if original.

There is a low temp metal alloy, (can't recall it's name right now), which can be poured into the breech to take a casting of the chamber.  Pull it out when cool and you can see what configuration the chamber really is.
Neato stuff!  It's liquid metal at 170-180 degrees.  Ha!  Like the T-1000 !   
It can be re-used any number of times.  Really hot water from the tap melts it.  About $15.

Most the people I've seen with them prefer to keep them in their original military trim.
My experience with them is both recent, and very limited, but I do like the caliber/cartridge a lot.

Basically, it represents a 100 year piece of history that functions well and can be purchased for as little as $59 -$79 at a local big 5 sporting goods store on sale!

Nice ammo is a buck a pop, but surplus corrosive is half that.

Have fun!
rmptr

J-G, Yes, much earlier, some were built under contract by Remington, ca 1915 and earlier, I think.

The arrow with fletching within the Soviet star indicates your rifle was built in 1937 at the Tula arsenal in Russia.

If yours had not been sporterized, the Tula weapons are a tad more valuable than some of the other arsenals because production during the war was lower than some others.
During Operation Barbarossa, the German 2nd Panzer Division advanced to very near the arsenal and the Russians abandoned it, which limited production, making them more desirable, to some extent.

Actually, no Mosin Nagant is any better than another functionally, yet the Finnish rebuilds might have better barrels.  Yet after 60-70 odd years of shooting corrosive ammo, what's the difference?   

You might buy a box of Bulgarian 147gr surplus ammo from a gun shop and shoot it at close range for fun.
About $8 for 20 shells.  They are the lightest bullets commonly available.

Swab it out with Windex type water/ammonia cleaner at the range, then normal cleaning when you get it home.

Best
rmptr

Beginning to look like someone may have to give rmptr's idea a try. My concern with the idea is, how would people find the gun forum then? It wouldn't be listed as a firearms section on the forums page, it would just show up under the member's name and only those that knew about would be able to find it without direction or by stumbling across it. Am i correct in my thinking or am I missing something?

I vote yes!

 Here is my vote

I know what that is, J-G!

Wow!

I had a buddy who had one of those 8mm mags.
Hard hitting flat shootin' ...  Man, that was quite a rifle!

Ha! Ha!   That old 91/30 ain't gonna bother you at all...
..........

Moving right along...

We could promote a firearms page pretty much by word of mouth (post).
...As in where I have my Honest to Goodness disclaimer tag on my posts (below),  it could just as easily welcome all others to visit the firearms page at Schwarzenegger_the_Detector personal pages at Tnet.
MOF, we could do it at other sites we might visit.

One important thing for Tnet is when you begin a thread or topic in a forum is to fill in those tag words.
They get out there into the web and send people this way...  always put firearm in those words.

I dunno...  I don't wanna change the face of Tnet or anything.  It's a great place.
We could probably build a significant amount of traffic by just word of mouth.

I just read something interesting today...  The M3A1 remains on the official list of US military weapons,
yet they haven't bought one in about 60 years, and they haven't been manufactured in about that long.
And, most of them that were built were done so by a GM headlight division!
The wire stock is used as a wrench to remove the barrel for cleaning and also for loading the magazine.
And, there's an oil reservoir in the grip, with a screw on cap!
Ha! Ha!

I've never seen one.
Probably never will.

But I still find it entertaining.

Best
rmptr

That "grease gun" is awesome, it's on my wish list.

Is this the Firearms forum? 

How many posts in favor of starting one is it going to take anyway?

Maybe they are waiting on a gun sponsor before starting one.

 

sent a pm to jeff of pa last wk about a survival spot would this include weapons ? im for it. safety concerns about buried arsenal items . cw relics. desert finds . who nows whats in caves. what is buried with caches etc. GO for it

I reported the post with the list of members in favor. Maybe a Moderator or heaven forbid an Admin will see it and grace us insects with a response.

Mosin Nagants are very manly rifles. Cheap, powerful and reliable. Every gun owner should consider buying at least one for their collection.

I don't mind admitting I'm just not getting better with age.
My vision is going downhill.

Perhaps I should get one of these.





...Then someone to carry it for me!
 
rmptr

Hummmm 

No Firearms Section

but we have a pirate talk section-------WTF (What Thats Foolish)

just my thoughts

Cachefinder-

Bump

One of you should PM marc this topic... maybe he's not seen it.

My vote is yes.
The Hi Point 40 caliber semi auto hand gun, has been a reliable side arm
for me. For a couple of years. I have a 40 C. Carbine on order.
Sure there are better gun's. Anyone can pay a thousand dollars for a nice hand gun.
And, as sure as shooting, there will be someone else that will say, The $1,500 gun
is more reliable. People need some type of weapon now, More than ever to protect their
family. And, if a low cost Hi Point gun is what they can afford. Then they should
buy it.
                   Roadquest

M3s up until  recently have been a standard issue item in many of the US Army's tanks as a sort of lastditch backup,  AFAIK the M4 (M16 based Carbine) have replaced most of them.

I have fired them both suppressed and unsuppressed,  but never seen a curved barrel before,  nice.

I think it's a good idea.

No I haven't, JG...

Looks like a 380.

Handy looking little pistol, would probably be good for Savant to shoot with his girls, especially with the adjustable rear sight.  I like fixed sights for something to put in your pocket, though.

AZ ex...  Somebody finally commented on the curved barrel!

I think it was prototype, or at least limited production.
and mostly for tankers.
There was apparently some kind of instruction issued with the curved barrel on how to rotate it while firing through a port, in a rotating motion to clear a blindspot in the tanks vision.

Germans issued a curved barrel to infantry for the MP-38/40 for use in Russian cities during WWII.
Don't know how many were actually built.

Ha! Ha!
Just what do you do, once you get yourself around the corner?
and there's the rest of the war going on right in front of you???   
Crazy!

I guess the recoil swept the barrel sideways...

Ha!
Here's a funny...

Here is one of my favorites, every shot one?

I have trained 1000's of service members on that and other foreign weps prior to their overseas deployments,  very accurate and highly reliable.

FWIW some were imported for the US market w/ .380 barrels,  I suggest sticking w/ the 9x18 due to it's solid track record w/ regards to reliability.

Non import marked real Russian military MAKs bring big $$.

9x17 -  .380 (9mm Kurz, or short)
9x18 -  9mm Makarov "PM"
9x19 -  9mm Lugar/Parabellum/Nato

Great pistols,  but nothing beats a Glock 19 for a fighting pistol   

Thanks, I have to admit I have never pulled the trigger on a Glock, I'm old, I have a complex about trusting a plastic gun. If it's not steel I don't want to shoot it LOL
J-G
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It is not plastic. It is polymer.   read this       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymer

Cachefinder-

Well....having seen many 100ks of round go down range in an average year,  nothing wrong with a Glock....

They run and run and keep on running with very few issues when compared to other platforms.  SIG,  Beretta,  etc are also great weapons,  but too many levers and other devices that can only confuse you in a high stress situation.  Again,  Glock is a great FIGHTING pistol...   

Nice Mak BTW,  but the adjustable sites make it a non MIL mak made or modified for import,  I am suprised there are no import markings anywhere on it.

Nice!!!