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Which detector is best for finding iron pot with gold coins?

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Posted Feb 22, 2009, 03:22:54 pm

I have posted before about my hidden property treasure and now I need a good detector. My old trustee White detector has found some really cool junk and coins but I need one to go deeper for this ultimate find! There are high levels of minerals such as ore and even gold in the area where I live so I need something with great distinction. I live in an area where there is strong strip of these minerals going through our land here. Most of the items I have found have also been iron along with many horse and oxen shoes. I am not sure what those are made of.........

I am not sure how deep the pot is buried but the elderly man with the help of slave ( who did not survive that night to keep this quiet) died 3 days later from traveling a long way in bad weather with his gold. He left a lot of fun signs to follow though. The gold owner was a surveyor and a mason so I am also trying to interpet these markings.

I have put off my hunt due to a total knee replacement in Nov and very sick teen daughter who will need brain surgery soon. Finding this gold could help save her life as we travel many miles to NY to a doctor. Even with insurance there are so many things not covered including travel, hotels and cop's that are horrible for out of state issues. We leave for NY March 15! She may not have the surgery on that date but it will be scheduled then unless it appears to be life threatening. My daughter wants to graduate high school in June before surgery!

So we need prayers and and advice!!! Any help appreciated!


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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Feb 22, 2009, 03:38:19 pm

any high end detector should go deep enough unless you think
it was buried at the bottom of an outhouse.

if an Iron Pot with an Iron Lid
you would want to search in all Metal though.

I Doubt many caches are deeper then arms Length.
& A beer can,
                    can be detected that deep

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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Feb 22, 2009, 04:52:01 pm

any high end detector should go deep enough unless you think
it was buried at the bottom of an outhouse.

if an Iron Pot with an Iron Lid
you would want to search in all Metal though.

I Doubt many caches are deeper then arms Length.
& A beer can,
                    can be detected that deep

eeewwww, I'm glad I don't know where the old outhouse was or I may be tempted..........

I can't find the location of the old well or wells either. There was about 21 slave quarters here too. Nothing recorded show the well location.
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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Feb 23, 2009, 08:36:52 am

What state are you in? There are some good people here, who will help you at no charge. That does not mean not to beware, but you can tell when a person truly wants to help. Good luck and our prayer are with you and your daughter. thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Feb 23, 2009, 08:59:41 am

The Only thing I forgot to mention.

A Large coil added would be a Plus

Not only for added depth but for fuller Coverage.

Preferably a DD (Double D) Coil

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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Feb 23, 2009, 09:24:27 am

Which detector is best for finding iron pot with gold coins?

That's easy, MINE.  I will let you use it to recover the gold and only charge you 5% of your find.   Grin
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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Feb 23, 2009, 09:43:44 am

AC385, Sir what part of the daughter needing an operation do you not understand. Help them for free and the feeling in your heart will be reward enough.
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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Feb 23, 2009, 10:25:11 am

If it was me I would use a 2-box detector.That will give you your depth and eliminate all the smaller signals, as it will only pick up larger targets and deep ones too.I'd forget the larger coil as you'd still pick up smaller objects.
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Feb 23, 2009, 10:51:27 am

Which detector is best for finding iron pot with gold coins?

That's easy, MINE.  I will let you use it to recover the gold and only charge you 5% of your find.   Grin

Thanks! I will keep that in mind  Grin
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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Feb 23, 2009, 10:55:27 am

Thanks I may hollar back at yall for more help! That should give a little hint of my state as someone ask earlier! 

I really appreciate all of the advice and I will let you know what I get and what works!
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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Mar 25, 2009, 12:25:52 pm

Just catching up on some reading, if ya find the gold come back and say its all good !!!Good luck with your family
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Mar 26, 2009, 03:25:48 pm

I wanted to get out this weekend for a major hunt but it's going to rain here fairly heavy.

My daughter gets to wait until after her HS graduation in June for her brain surgery. She was thrilled with that news. Hope we find the gold before then, even with insurance it's going to be a booger to pay for. We saw a great surgeon last week in NY so there is great hope for her future recovery.

How does the moisture of the ground effect detecting or does it in any way?
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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Mar 27, 2009, 04:36:25 pm

i think i saw that you said there were old stories of the cemetery being haunted ?...sounds like a probable burial spot to me.....on the detector i would say a minelab if not suspected toooo deep...an old garrett cx3 with an 18 inch coil if thought to be a bit deeper...if as deep as i would think {3-4 feet to top at least} i would go with a good pulse unit like the maxi pulse plus....two boxes show too much mineralization and/or do not have the hoped for depth, at least that has been my experience with them....some pulse units are okay but still hit the mineral...maxipulse unit so far has not caused the first hole to hard rocks........if shallow enough a $100 flea market detector should hit the iron pot like it was a volkswagen.............
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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Mar 27, 2009, 06:42:06 pm

i think i saw that you said there were old stories of the cemetery being haunted ?...sounds like a probable burial spot to me.....on the detector i would say a minelab if not suspected toooo deep...an old garrett cx3 with an 18 inch coil if thought to be a bit deeper...if as deep as i would think {3-4 feet to top at least} i would go with a good pulse unit like the maxi pulse plus....two boxes show too much mineralization and/or do not have the hoped for depth, at least that has been my experience with them....some pulse units are okay but still hit the mineral...maxipulse unit so far has not caused the first hole to hard rocks........if shallow enough a $100 flea market detector should hit the iron pot like it was a volkswagen.............

Thanks. We have a lot of minerals in this area. I put a post in my hurried signs about the gold being buried in 1841 instead of 1863 and after investigation thought to be Bechtler's gold. Even though we own the cemetery I am not comfortable digging there, if so it would be my secret! There are so many sunken places and some without stones close by.
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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Mar 28, 2009, 11:31:15 am

Could be in a false grave with made up headstone. (great hiding place)
I would use a two box detector especially if it could be 6 ft under.
They will pick up a gold vein as well.

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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Mar 28, 2009, 12:07:54 pm

Could be in a false grave with made up headstone. (great hiding place)
I would use a two box detector especially if it could be 6 ft under.
They will pick up a gold vein as well.

I have thought of the gold in the graveyard and false stones, but if he were buried 3 days later in that very cemetery would not the family have noticed a newly dug spot or grave and become suspicious? He buried the gold and died 3 days later with no prior warning that he was even sick except for a "cold"  which became worse over the next 3 days after he buried the gold.
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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Mar 29, 2009, 04:37:26 pm

Could be in a false grave with made up headstone. (great hiding place)
I would use a two box detector especially if it could be 6 ft under.
They will pick up a gold vein as well.

I have thought of the gold in the graveyard and false stones, but if he were buried 3 days later in that very cemetery would not the family have noticed a newly dug spot or grave and become suspicious? He buried the gold and died 3 days later with no prior warning that he was even sick except for a "cold"  which became worse over the next 3 days after he buried the gold.

Good point.
 Unless he did an excellent job of hiding the evidence. Maybe he just buried it underneath a headstone which would cover up any sign of digging. That's what I would do.

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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Mar 29, 2009, 08:07:56 pm

Could be in a false grave with made up headstone. (great hiding place)
I would use a two box detector especially if it could be 6 ft under.
They will pick up a gold vein as well.

I have thought of the gold in the graveyard and false stones, but if he were buried 3 days later in that very cemetery would not the family have noticed a newly dug spot or grave and become suspicious? He buried the gold and died 3 days later with no prior warning that he was even sick except for a "cold"  which became worse over the next 3 days after he buried the gold.


Good point.
 Unless they did an excellent job of hiding the evidence. Maybe they just buried it underneath a headstone which would cover up any sign of digging. That's what I would do.

I went out today and someone had put a wooden post right outside the cemetery. Beside it I found a tape measure. I had my detector with me but not a shovel. Where the stick was there was the MD went crazy. Some one has been looking on my property and mark a hot spot. I am going to put more no tresspassing  post up tomorrow. I don't know what else to do to people off of my property. This 3 foot tall stick was not there 2 weeks ago. I can't afford to fence it all unless I find the gold, then I may not care so much.  I hope to dig this spot soon. I hurt my back today helping my husband pull up stumps so tomorrow may not work for me but I may try anyway and will post afterwards.
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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Mar 30, 2009, 05:17:04 pm

I think a few land mines should do the trick!
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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Apr 01, 2009, 08:21:51 pm

I think a few land mines should do the trick!
Great idea, my luck would be I would forget where I put them!
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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Apr 02, 2009, 11:54:59 am

One time I got a roll of yellow "crime scene do not cross" tape and cordoned off an area with it and I spray painted a couple of outlines of bodies on the ground. It scared the trespassers off.  They had been camping on my property. Its cheap and the trespassers think maybe the cops are watching for someone to return to the scene of the crime. or that trespassers really do get shot!
For sure it let them know that they were not in an isolated area that no one else knew about.

It just may work for you and it's safer than booby traps. You could also put evidence stickers on the post they left.  thumbsup

Here is where you can get the tape and other detective supplies sold to the public.
http://www.crimescene.com/store/ind...mp;gclid=COyCqZSA05kCFRIhnAodNwG8ug

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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted Apr 02, 2009, 03:26:43 pm

Another idea that just might work is to talk to someone in the sheriff's office and tell them you would like a business card to put on the stick.  Then write on the card to call me.  That should make them a bit nervous and the trespassing should stop.
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Reply To This Topic #22 Posted Apr 05, 2009, 06:17:43 am

Dawgwood, add a new twist to this and get some help from some of the dowsers on treasurenet. I'm sure they would be willing to help for such a great cause. I pray everything goes well with your daughter and your back improves. I'm troubled by the fact that someone shows up by the cemetary a few days after it is brought up that the gold might hidden there. Someone in your state and close to your area might have been reading these posts. If so, shame on them....
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Reply To This Topic #23 Posted Apr 09, 2009, 11:38:54 am

You want to go rent a Survey Stake locator. It is a magnetometer and nothing compares to depth of detection on large iron. A vlf is a waste of time and only a pulse can come near to comparison. The mag will detect beyond a pulse. It detects the stronger magnetic field of an iron object relative to the balance of the earth's magnetism at your location regardless of any variations as the earth's field changes. Most have one control feature: Sensitivity.

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Would that be simms gold? $3,000 after the civil war.
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Reply To This Topic #24 Posted Apr 09, 2009, 12:21:19 pm

You want to go rent a Survey Stake locator. It is a magnetometer and nothing compares to depth of detection on large iron. A vlf is a waste of time and only a pulse can come near to comparison. The mag will detect beyond a pulse. It detects the stronger magnetic field of an iron object relative to the balance of the earth's magnetism at your location regardless of any variations as the earth's field changes. Most have one control feature: Sensitivity.

JG

Would that be simms gold? $3,000 after the civil war.

Thanks I really enjoyed reading about how to keep the tresspassers out. I never thought about a survey stake locator, great idea.

The gold maybe Betchler's (hope that spelling is right)  Gold from Rutherford co NC. I was told this was the type of gold used in the south during that time. Also, I don't know I mentioned it in this post or not but we found out the man who buried the gold died in 1841, not 1861 as first thought.  I confirmed this from his tombstone and records. Thanks so much for all the help. I will plan a dig next week.
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Reply To This Topic #25 Posted Apr 16, 2009, 11:19:43 am

I just joined and found your post. The absolute best way to find the pots is with a magnetometer.
Let me know if you still need help.
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Reply To This Topic #26 Posted Apr 16, 2009, 11:52:05 am

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I'd have to say my detector is the best for this. But sorry I don't lend mine out so if you call me I might be able to come find it,we can work out the details later !  Grin Wink

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Reply To This Topic #27 Posted Apr 16, 2009, 05:14:31 pm

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I'd have to say my detector is the best for this. But sorry I don't lend mine out so if you call me I might be able to come find it,we can work out the details later !  Grin Wink

wow, I might call but that photo of you to left is really scary! lol...........may not scare the guys but it freaks me. However it does appear you may have special magical powers of some kind.   Grin

Anyway, still looking hope to make progress hitting massive amounts of beeps..........also dug where the tresspasser had put a wooden stick but had not yet dug and found a piece of iron, and a old blade and some kind of blacksmith made hitch, really cool but not what I am looking for.
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Reply To This Topic #28 Posted Apr 16, 2009, 11:25:04 pm

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.also dug where the tresspasser had put a wooden stick but had not yet dug and found a piece of iron,
You might wanna check and see if a neighboring property owner ordered a recent survey ?  Huh Roll Eyes Cheesy Wink

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Reply To This Topic #29 Posted Sep 03, 2009, 05:31:36 am

I would highly suggest a Whites MXT 300! They are great machines and hit deep targets very well!

I have been detecting for about 4 months now, and I am finding great stuff!!!
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Reply To This Topic #30 Posted Sep 03, 2009, 07:12:13 am

If you are depending on finding this pot of gold to defray your expenses I am afraid it's about like buying lottery tickets.  The odds are against you.  Just how many hidden treasures are found sight unseen?  Not many.  It often takes years of research and searching.  You need to contact the Shriner's Hospital about your daughter.  They may do the surgery for free and even find a place for you to stay while she is in the hospital.  There are many free help places and organizations around like McDonald's House, etc.  Check it out.  I wish I could offer more than advice but regretfully I cannot.  Monty

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Reply To This Topic #31 Posted Sep 03, 2009, 11:20:51 am

Minelab sovereign with a 15"  coil on all metal.  Or the Old Garrett Master Hunter with the two box.

I would suggest you contact a dowser and get the area narrowed down.

By the way if you discover an old out house, you may want to dig it some of the bottles that could be down there may be worth thousands Wink Digging one ain't so bad, because all the yucky stuff has turned to an ash like substance.

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Reply To This Topic #32 Posted Oct 08, 2009, 09:38:00 pm

If you are depending on finding this pot of gold to defray your expenses I am afraid it's about like buying lottery tickets.  The odds are against you.  Just how many hidden treasures are found sight unseen?  Not many.  It often takes years of research and searching.  You need to contact the Shriner's Hospital about your daughter.  They may do the surgery for free and even find a place for you to stay while she is in the hospital.  There are many free help places and organizations around like McDonald's House, etc.  Check it out.  I wish I could offer more than advice but regretfully I cannot.  Monty
Thanks Monty:
We were at Shriners but she was considered "too seriously ill" and sent to Vanderbilt. We have a great neurosurgeon and she should have surgery in the next 2-3 weeks. Sorry it took so long to answer but we have been spending most of our days in hospital. Finding the gold is a dream and a hope but nothing I am counting on for survivial at this time. As usual things are falling into place with medical finances as they come.
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Reply To This Topic #33 Posted Oct 08, 2009, 09:49:13 pm

Sorry no post lately but as most of you know my teen daughter has been very sick and will have brain surgery in the next few weeks. Also we have not had a lot of time for gold hunting. We hope to have some time this weekend if weather permits. We did have a visit from a man at our local historic society last week. He came back with a map of our land from the 1800's. It was a copy of an old cloth map that was torn in places. I have no idea how to read this thing. He confirmed the "story" of gold on our land and how many have searched for it over the years. No professionals, just "a lot of people". I'll scan the map and see if any of you can see something I may be missing.
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Reply To This Topic #34 Posted Oct 11, 2009, 08:55:09 am




Dawgwood:  I am very curious, just what is wrong that needs this brain surgery?

Incdentally a rented Magnetometer is the only way to go for  pure iron object.

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Reply To This Topic #35 Posted Oct 11, 2009, 02:27:20 pm

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Reply To This Topic #36 Posted Oct 12, 2009, 08:24:28 am

Yes a magnetometer it is better, but maybe a little people have one if you have not some device to detect, is easy to get a two box detector like tf 900, this  will make the job, remember you must dig all signals, because the device will sound with all metal of good size. Good luck.
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Reply To This Topic #37 Posted Oct 13, 2009, 08:01:47 am

You might want to look into Tesoro detectors. You can use a small amount of discrimination to cut out small iron but due to Tesoro's "big iron override" you will still get larger iron. In 1994 I was using a Tesoro Bandido2 and got an iron dutch oven at a full 3 feet deep....and it was a LOUD signal.

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Reply To This Topic #38 Posted Oct 14, 2009, 05:56:39 pm

You might want to look into Tesoro detectors. You can use a small amount of discrimination to cut out small iron but due to Tesoro's "big iron override" you will still get larger iron. In 1994 I was using a Tesoro Bandido2 and got an iron dutch oven at a full 3 feet deep....and it was a LOUD signal.

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Thanks, I am not familar with a Tesoro. Any idea where to find one?
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Reply To This Topic #39 Posted Oct 14, 2009, 06:55:04 pm

You might want to look into Tesoro detectors. You can use a small amount of discrimination to cut out small iron but due to Tesoro's "big iron override" you will still get larger iron. In 1994 I was using a Tesoro Bandido2 and got an iron dutch oven at a full 3 feet deep....and it was a LOUD signal.

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Thanks, I am not familar with a Tesoro. Any idea where to find one?

There are several dealers here on TN that carry Tesoro ( I think). The Bandido2 that I used was several years old...Tesoro has several models out now that are awesome. The Silver Saber, the Cibola, the Vaquero....all of these have the "big iron override" that will enable you to get larger iron while blocking nails. Plus, Tesoro has a LIFETIME warranty....you can't beat that!

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Reply To This Topic #40 Posted Nov 03, 2009, 11:04:07 pm

If you think it is buried with more then two feet of top soil on it and you know the farm(house or out buildings) well enough to have a clue to the possible sites. Then you might be able to barrow or rent a two box detector. You will find anything of size with this type of detector. I would advise doing as much research as possible well before renting a detector. Including researching this type of detector.

What ever you decide, good luck.

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Reply To This Topic #41 Posted Nov 05, 2009, 09:24:12 pm

How's the daughter?

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Reply To This Topic #42 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 07:19:46 pm

So if I might ask! What kind of signs have you found, And as for the markings what do they look like? Maybe someone here can give you an idea as to what they may mean. You might place photos of markings on this site. Also it sounds like the fellow who buried this pot carried it off some distance from the house, like maybe even a 1/2 mile.

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Reply To This Topic #43 Posted Nov 15, 2009, 11:43:07 am

I just joined and found your post. The absolute best way to find the pots is with a magnetometer.
Let me know if you still need help.
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Carl

With the costs involved with your teens upcoming surgerty, which we all hope everything will turn out ok, A thought would be to check out some of the local detector shops and/or rental yards. You may be able to rent a two box. Clean up the areas you have a gut feeling on with your detector then go rent a two box or similar for a day or two. Cheaper than buying a new two box & getting stuck trying to sell it after only using it once (positive thinking here!)

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Reply To This Topic #44 Posted Nov 15, 2009, 07:30:02 pm

How's the daughter?
Thanks for asking. Her condition has gotten much worse and she will have what is known as "decompression" surgery on 12/9. This is where they remove the back of her skull, a small part of her brain, and work on moving or removing her top 2 vertebra. This gives her brain the room it needs and takes the pressure off of her main artery that is causing so much pain. It depends on what they find during surgery. She hopes to get her life and we all faith she will get her wish. Thanks for asking, thanks for prayers. I know we will be on the other side soon. Dawgwood
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Reply To This Topic #45 Posted Nov 15, 2009, 07:45:02 pm

So if I might ask! What kind of signs have you found, And as for the markings what do they look like? Maybe someone here can give you an idea as to what they may mean. You might place photos of markings on this site. Also it sounds like the fellow who buried this pot carried it off some distance from the house, like maybe even a 1/2 mile.

Sure, what I have found is rock embedded in a tree. It is a dogwood..........there are 3 in a "V" shape. We have many more but these are 3 of the originals that were planted in 1846 by this man for his wife after she saw them in Charleston and requested some in her yard. The middle tree has the rock. Also pointing toward this tree is what looks like a chiseled stone in the shape of an arrow. He was a surveyor and we found even the graveyard he planned he marked it in degrees. I don't think he carried this far as he was very sick upon his return from SC with the gold and died 3 days later. Behind the 3 dogwoods are 3 huge oaks. One has a hole in the bottom. I am going to investgate that this week. I know a "pot of gold" can't be buried inside the tree, but leather pouches can be right? There are markings on the 2nd huge oak about 14' high. At first I thought it was a stick figure, but as I zoomed it there appears to be another symbol. I'll post these photos too. It may take a few to look them up on my computer. Any help greatly appreciated!
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Reply To This Topic #46 Posted Dec 01, 2009, 08:41:54 pm

I believe that a 2 box detector is best for you.  Good Luck.
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Reply To This Topic #47 Posted Dec 04, 2009, 07:05:41 pm

I had nothing but troubles with a Gemini 3 and a TM808,both 2 box machines. It is EXTREMELY hard to tell where your target is, or how deep, and these things MUST  be held level to the ground to avoid tuning/ground mineral issues. I acquired a pulse unit from a guy in Georgia instead for a good price.Kellyco lists this detector at over 3 grand.A guy in Kansas found a million dollar meterorite with his, down about 12 feet I heard altho he used a homemade search coil towed behind his atv. I am renting mine to a friend to look for  pot of French gold coins supposedly buried near him. It has the 18 inch coil and some crude discrimation ability between ferrous and nonferrous targets, ferrous being iron. I do have a magnetometer for sale. I used one at a cousins house and it would easily see his buried water pipe.He told me the pipe was abut 5 feet deep, an 8 inch water main from an old steam powered locomotive water source. I followed the water line with my divining rods.He told me later that I was within a foot of the water main after he dug down with his backhoe.
I do the map dowsing thing but never had much luck on buried treasure, only on placer gold deposits so far. I am hoping to get out to Arizona and find the LDM gold since it is native gold and not man buried gold and I have a potential spot located. Native gold deposits seem to work better for locating by dowsing for me. Sometimes I can feel the presence of a 'spirit' at map dowsed sites as related to gold/treasure ,some good, some bad.I stay clear of the bad ones.

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Reply To This Topic #48 Posted Dec 04, 2009, 07:11:10 pm

Great comments on #47. What is the best brand that sell 2 box detectors? Thank you.
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Reply To This Topic #49 Posted Dec 04, 2009, 08:23:17 pm

Get a Pulsestar 2 from Kellyco ( unfortunately Big K is the only dealer for these machines in USA) or a used one ,except nobody ever wants to sell em . I had a successful cache hunter tell me he never found anything besides a few coins with hobby/coin detectors until he got his hands on a Pulsestar 2, then he started finding caches, including a silver coin cache on his Amish farm.
It will find a soda can about 3 feet down, metal tool box at 4-5 feet,500 pound meterorite at 10-15 feet. Mine came with an 18 inch round coil and a 1 meter square coil in PVC tubes you fasten together. I believe there is also a 10 inch round coil and a 1 inch pinpointer coil. You carry the control box, with a 2 amp lead acid battery in it, on a strap around your neck, and it does have a ferrous/nonferrous indicator meter and LED lights.Do an Internet search for PulseStar 2. The mfgr is in Germany and has online manuals posted.There are copy cat detectors but nobody ever mentions hunting with those, only the PulseStar 2.
My Tesoro Lobo Supertraq detector can see a baseball size copper nugget, in an air test at 2 feet, using the 10 x 12 coil. This is about the easiest to use  detector with good depth on the market that I am aware of and is very hot on gold targets.I've had mine about 8 years and it paid for itself with coins and gold jewelry found in swim areas and playgrounds.

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Reply To This Topic #50 Posted Dec 05, 2009, 08:12:01 am

tvanwho:

  Please tell us more about dowsing for placer deposits and what size gold are
you finding with it.  This topic is being discussed on another thread and many
doubters say it ain't so.
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Reply To This Topic #51 Posted Dec 05, 2009, 03:04:55 pm

Lastleg,

I have recovered mostly fine gold from several spots I map dowsed for like 1/10-1 ounce per ton in central Indiana. I have 2 vials from a creek here at work, not a lot,less than a gram I spose but it sure is pretty yellow, recovered with my large highbanker and 2.5 inch dredge and lots of backbreaking work.Not rich yet, but hey , the gold was there in at least 3 cases where i had map dowsed the location from my desk at work ,200 miles away. In other spots, no gold, still scratchin my head on those as to why not? I did discover last month where I had field dowsed  spots in 2 different  creeks and gold started showing up as we dug into the gravel. The previous day we were mining in a bedrock creek with little gravel even tho the map dowsing indicated 100 + ounces there. Jeff and I seem to get the same approx results with our map dowsing so we check each other. But in that creekbed, it was a BUST, not a single speck of yellow showed up?
  Next day, in the other creek, where I had not map dowsed, I walked up and down the creek with my copper L rods about 200 feet, until they crossed on both sides of the creek and over a loose gravel/sand deposit.We moved over there and started to pan.The lesson I learned is that there better be loads of black sand and iron minerals like red hematite showing up in your gold pan where your rods crossed.If so, you should find gold there too.If not, you probably will NOT find any yellow there. Digging deeper also helps,especially if you hit the black sands but no yellow.Dig deeper til yellow specks begin to show up, then deeper yet. Some gravel deposits can be many feet thick and my rods will respond to tiny pinpoint specks of gold whether I am thinking of gold nuggets or trying to block out thoughts of tiny gold.
  I use plain old copper rods,about 1/8 inch diameter and will sometimes put a copper tube on the handle end to act as a bearing.When you use 2 of these rods together, they will sometimes both swing in parallel and you should follow the direction till they cross, preferably stay crossed as you keep walking along. If they cross and uncross right away, I usually ignore that spot.If they cross and stay crossed for several feet, I will walk 90 degrees and crisscross the spot and put down sticks to mark the boundaries/corners of the gold attraction area and start digging. I cannot yet tell how deep to dig or what size gold is there tho.
  Now, some of my buddies seem to have this natural ability to home in on native gold deposits on their own and are big dowsing skeptics.I just don't seem to have that nose for gold myself so I need a crutch. Any tool that will aid in the search for the yellow stuff, whether it is 100% reliable or 30% is just that ,a tool, and I will use it. I do figger my results are maybe 40% accurate on average so far as I can tell. I don't know of any other method to use to look for AU deposits on a shoestring budget from home at locations hundreds or thuosands of miles away from me other than map dowsing. I learnt long ago, NOT to force a dowsing location onto your pendulum.Just go with an open mind and if it swings for gold, then ask gold concentrations, total max amount in the deposit, etc. I am finding out I can get better results with aerial photos vs topo maps and the smaller the scale of the map, the better.
   My buddies do a LOT of sampling too, and I am doing that now as well as field dowsing. Where the yellow colors start to show up, we tend to focus our efforts there with the rods and panning. If colors in most every pan, we get a dredge or sluice in there.
   My gold vials are here at work and my camera at home, not sure if I can take a decent picture to post here later, but will try.
  Ps, I was in Arizona this year and saw several gold ore displays. Only a very few of the specimaens contained quartz and gold.Out of over 3 dozen sample ores, I never would have considered most of them to be gold bearing myself. Gold is NOT always yellow when you see the host rock in the field. It may be in that rock in microscopic particles at the dowsing rods will be attracted to but without doing  achemical assay on the suspect rock, you would just tosss it aside and and cuss at your rods. I a had a piece of crystalline galena ore assayed and it came back with 1/8 ounce per ton  of gold mixed in with the lead. I was shocked when I saw that.
  Always learning, need to keep experimenting, wish I knew somebody with lots of native gold/gold ores to experiment with so I could learn more about why the rods react or don't react and the relationships between gold and iron and black sands.
  Sorry for my rambling but you got me going...

-Tom
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Reply To This Topic #52 Posted Dec 05, 2009, 08:08:18 pm

Thanks, Tom  I shall talk with you later about AZ.
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Reply To This Topic #53 Posted Dec 09, 2009, 10:46:21 pm

Has anybody heard how the daughter is doing?
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Reply To This Topic #54 Posted Dec 16, 2009, 10:11:31 am

Wow, long thread! Hope everything went well on the 9th? I'm thinking positive thoughts!

As for the treasure, maybe some more research and since it is believed to be on your land, maybe continue to look for signs that would indicate a hiding spot. My guess is if there is gold that this Betchler hid, and if he was sick when he hid it, it would probably not be very deep if it was buried. In fact it may not even have been buried but might be in a building, or tree, or maybe one of the headstones in he cemetery, or...? Just think woman!  icon_scratch Where would YOU hide gold on your property?  sign13 Grin Then just swing your detector there or move something and see. The point is to take action and look. even if one never finds anything, I've noticed that this hobby takes my mind off other things for awhile if you know what I mean!  icon_thumright

Good luck,  wave
 
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Reply To This Topic #55 Posted Dec 27, 2009, 03:22:23 pm

Any update in the daughter? In my prayers.

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Reply To This Topic #56 Posted Jan 19, 2010, 11:35:43 am

Has any treasures has been found yet?
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Reply To This Topic #57 Posted Jan 30, 2010, 06:23:30 pm

I would hunt in all metal, with the biggest coil I could swing  icon_pirat : using a probe on any and all signals, dig all, and recheck holes.
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I will be praying for you, and your daughter

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Reply To This Topic #58 Posted Feb 01, 2010, 02:12:59 pm

Which detector is best for finding iron pot with gold coins?

That's easy, MINE.  I will let you use it to recover the gold and only charge you 5% of your find.   Grin
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Reply To This Topic #59 Posted Feb 02, 2010, 07:43:41 pm

I have a Garrett Master Hunter CX and a 2 box detector. I am also a Neurosurgical PA. This basically means I have a Master's degree in Medicine and I've been working in neurosurgery for nearly 8 years. I'm curious to know the diagnosis of your daughter, if it's something you're willing to share. If not, I completely understand. It sounds like she may have had correction of a Chiari Malformation? Or if it was truly a vascular problem, perhaps verterbral artery stenosis or stricture? That's pretty rare. In any even, it's my understanding that she has already underwent surgical attention. I hope she is well. If I can help, let me know. You can borrow my stuff, free of charge. All I ask is you reimburse me for shipping. But I need to get some kind of assurance that your story is real and that I will get my stuff back in a reasonable amount of time. Just let me know.

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Reply To This Topic #60 Posted Feb 06, 2010, 04:36:53 pm

William,

That is one of the nicest suggestions I have seen on this website.  My hat is off to you my friend.

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Reply To This Topic #61 Posted Feb 07, 2010, 10:36:28 am

If you are sure what you are looking for is iron or steel the best thing you will find on the market to find it will be a Schondstedt Metal Locator. It's used by surveyors and will only locate iron and steel but it is gauranteed from the factory to be able to locate an 18 inch long piece of 3/4 inch steel pipe at nine feet. It is not bothered by minerals in the soil. New they are about $850 but you can find used ones for $350 or so if you look around.

Click the website button.....

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Reply To This Topic #62 Posted Mar 16, 2010, 03:08:33 am

I have posted before about my hidden property treasure and now I need a good detector. My old trustee White detector has found some really cool junk and coins but I need one to go deeper for this ultimate find! There are high levels of minerals such as ore and even gold in the area where I live so I need something with great distinction. I live in an area where there is strong strip of these minerals going through our land here. Most of the items I have found have also been iron along with many horse and oxen shoes. I am not sure what those are made of.........

I am not sure how deep the pot is buried but the elderly man with the help of slave ( who did not survive that night to keep this quiet) died 3 days later from traveling a long way in bad weather with his gold. He left a lot of fun signs to follow though. The gold owner was a surveyor and a mason so I am also trying to interpet these markings.

I have put off my hunt due to a total knee replacement in Nov and very sick teen daughter who will need brain surgery soon. Finding this gold could help save her life as we travel many miles to NY to a doctor. Even with insurance there are so many things not covered including travel, hotels and cop's that are horrible for out of state issues. We leave for NY March 15! She may not have the surgery on that date but it will be scheduled then unless it appears to be life threatening. My daughter wants to graduate high school in June before surgery!

So we need prayers and and advice!!! Any help appreciated!


Thanks
Dawgwood

So how is your daughter.....you still looking for the gold?......a few of us should get together for you and come over and cover a lot of ground and see what you get....




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Reply To This Topic #63 Posted Mar 22, 2010, 05:00:50 pm

I know you guys were just joking around about booby traps, but they are illegal in most states.  Too easy for an innocent person or child to get hurt.  Posting is the best first step.  Police tape is a great idea too if the area isn't too big.

Dawgwood, my prayers are with you and your daughter and family.

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Reply To This Topic #64 Posted Apr 24, 2010, 08:49:02 pm

I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but I just found a listing for a find in N.C.- Buncombe Co. "A cache of Bechtler gold coins was discovered by treasure hunters in a tobacco shed on an abandon farm near Black Mt. The coins were rare and worth between  $1k and $15k EACH.  I hope this is not what you are looking for! I also hope your girl fares well.
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Reply To This Topic #65 Posted Apr 24, 2010, 10:56:18 pm

I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but I just found a listing for a find in N.C.- Buncombe Co. "A cache of Bechtler gold coins was discovered by treasure hunters in a tobacco shed on an abandon farm near Black Mt. The coins were rare and worth between  $1k and $15k EACH.  I hope this is not what you are looking for! I also hope your girl fares well.

Where did you find the report of this discovery? A link would be appreciated.
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Reply To This Topic #66 Posted Apr 25, 2010, 09:11:32 am

I found it the old fashion way. I guessed the state was N.C. and looked in my 10 volume set of U.S. Treasure Atlas. I don't think there is a digital version.
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Reply To This Topic #67 Posted Apr 25, 2010, 09:07:28 pm

I found it the old fashion way. I guessed the state was N.C. and looked in my 10 volume set of U.S. Treasure Atlas. I don't think there is a digital version.

Aha. I thought it may have made the news recently. Yes, there have been a number of Bechtler finds and cache legends in western NC over the years.
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Reply To This Topic #68 Posted May 18, 2010, 07:17:30 pm

Dawgwood has not posted since last Nov. I wonder if she found anything.

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Reply To This Topic #69 Posted May 19, 2010, 06:14:56 am

probably scared off by too much back and forth opinions, advice and offers to help.
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Reply To This Topic #70 Posted Apr 29, 2011, 07:42:33 pm

Was there any treasure found.
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Reply To This Topic #71 Posted May 04, 2011, 10:59:45 am

I couldnt resist... I would use an Irish made leprechaun ! I hope her daughter is well and that is not why she disappeared. Lets all sent our prayers and love...
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Reply To This Topic #72 Posted Jun 05, 2011, 08:09:06 pm

What stories do you have for Connecticut?  lovejoydc@att.net
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Reply To This Topic #73 Posted Jun 06, 2011, 10:08:35 pm

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that the posters of such topics as this always seem to just stop posting? My initial thoughts were spot on!
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