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Did they use shotguns ?

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Posted Apr 02, 2009, 04:05:24 am

Hello,
I would like to know if during the civil war some of the CSA soldiers
would make military use of  these two barrel shotguns during the
battle? - Is this posible?  Roll Eyes Huh icon_study icon_scratch
Thanks and HH,
Mike

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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Apr 02, 2009, 03:32:28 pm

I know that in McKee & Mason bullet book M&M 64,M&M 65 and M&M 66 are listed as double barrel rifle or shotgun.So I would say yes they had double barrel shotguns during the CW.Also they were used by the CSA.

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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Apr 02, 2009, 03:45:44 pm

Volunteers and militiamen used what they had.
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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Apr 03, 2009, 12:59:58 am

Most definitely. Especially the CS cavalry.
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Apr 03, 2009, 09:19:40 am

Absolutely.  I just found 8 pieces of buckshot in a trench in Spanish Fort, AL.
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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Apr 03, 2009, 10:48:53 am

A passage from a Civil War Soldiers (CSA) diary, recalling the affair at Ivy Mountain (Creek), Kentucky:

"A detail of 116 men was selected from among those assembled at our camp to go out and engage the enemy from the mountain side.  Nearly all our men in the detail were armed with double-barreled shot guns, and we had prepared cartridges, each containing eleven buckshot, so that such a charge would be effective at short range."

The result:  160 killed and 500 wounded




Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Apr 03, 2009, 11:22:02 am

WOW - Awesome !
As far as i know in the old west they used more the two Barrel Shotguns
more frecuently than the well - known Winchesters as well.
Thank you  thumbsup
HH.
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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Apr 04, 2009, 08:02:21 am

Hi Ya Miguel.....This is one I found about a month ago.It's a CS Slug that was found at Antietam while hunting some of the field's.My best piece of lead ever....could bring as much as $150  thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Apr 04, 2009, 11:18:45 am

Civilman1
 that is a very nice slug,I have one like that but nowhere in that condition.

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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Apr 04, 2009, 12:26:29 pm

Civilman1,
That was a very good find !  thumbsup
I wouldn't imagine what kind of wound such a projectil could cause  Roll Eyes Sad
By that kind of shot there must  have been a mighty recoil of the shotgun !
Hope you get a very good price for that very rare item. icon_sunny
Regards,
miguel

PS.: I found this high impact shotgun bullet .Certainly not a very old one but similar
as the one you found.
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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Apr 05, 2009, 11:45:15 pm

I would like to see a Pic in detail of those CSA shotguns.
I have searched Google but found only this  Cry
http://www.hackman-adams.com/guns/ConfCavC&S.htm
Somebody could post a Pic of theses double barreled shotguns?
Thank you........ thumbsup coffee2
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Apr 05, 2009, 11:51:06 pm

you bet they used shotguns --esp confederate calvary troops --they used sawed off double barrels at up close and personal range with buckshot from horse back to clear off union nfantry as they tried to mob em --  they worked very well for that .

a 12  gauge long barreled shotgun could use buckshot (if the action was to be up close) or they could use a 69 cal round ball or a slug for more range  ( buckshot was normally used if sawed off since it was a close quarters only type weapon )

Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Apr 06, 2009, 12:04:21 am

you bet they used shotguns --esp confederate calvary troops --they used sawed off double barrels at up close and personal range with buckshot from horse back to clear off union nfantry as they tried to mob em --  they worked very well for that .

a 12  gauge long barreled shotgun could use buckshot (if the action was to be up close) or they could use a 69 cal round ball or a slug for more range  ( buckshot was normally used if sawed off since it was a close quarters only type weapon )
Thanks Ivan for the addicional information  thumbsup
If you find a better Pic of these guns,please post it here .
HH
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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted May 11, 2009, 09:46:09 am

Now that was a great thread. thanks evryone!




Reply To This Topic #14 Posted May 11, 2009, 09:53:04 am

Now I know they did ... Wink
look at the last Pic down this link:
http://www.fcsutler.com/fcweapons.asp

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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Dec 11, 2009, 08:17:20 am

New to this forum so real late posting on this topic.

Yes, they did use shotguns.  Check some of the history of the CW in New Mexico.  During the battle of Val Verde the Confederates put their shotguns to effictive use by charging Cpt. McRay's artillery battery across 700 yards of open ground.  When they were close enough they emptied their shotguns, then drew their revolvers and continued the fight, capturing the battery.

Hope this helps.

Happy hunting.
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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Dec 11, 2009, 12:55:38 pm

me told you they used shotguns --me no lie.  read2 Wink icon_thumright
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