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Beautiful Rare Gilted War of 1812 Button - Irish/American Militia - UNION GREENS

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Posted Mar 14, 2009, 02:29:42 pm

On Friday the 13th I went on an exploring for new sites type of hunt, and did find on small homesite along the same dirt road I just found 4 others this past month or so.

There is a small depression and the iron hits were music to the ears. After about ten minutes I was rewarded with a somewhat high tone reading, but not quite in the Large Copper range.   I dug and down about 6 inches a nice coin appeared.  Rather crusty coming out of the ground and one side was full of caked on cement like dirt, so I knew it being in great shape was out of the question, but, I was able to tell that the coin was a LIBERTY CAP HALF CENT  thumbsup

Now that my adventure for the day was already a success, I enjoyed detecting a bit more around the depression and got two buttons.  Nothing special about them noted at the time, I put the buttons into the No. 1 Coin Envelopes I carry with me and called it quits for the hunting portion and went back to exploring the area and ended up doing a 3 mile loop type walk.

When I got home and first looked at the coin, I saw that it was a 1797 HALF CENT, darn, I was hoping for the rare and valuable 1796, but maybe someday, that was my 4th 1797 HC and my 8th Liberty Cap Half Cent overall, I have been very lucky at getting the early years Half Cents.   It cleaned up fairly good, although the corrosion and wear is evident.

Now thinking my find of the day was the Half Cent, oh, I was so wrong.  As I looked at the two buttons I found, I noticed one had a bit of gilt showing thru, so I got the Naval Jelly out and WOW!!!!  I was totally shocked to see the Eagle w/Shield on the button and the words UNION GREENS!    Later on I noticed the HARP under the one wing.
I quickly started looking through my Albert's and Tice books and to no avail could not find a similar button or anything on UNION GREENS.   I could tell by the back of the button, which has no backmark or cast mark, but does have a great date indicator, the rectangled shaped "foot" that was still on the back, minus the applied shaft.  That style button put the age in the 1810-1820 range, along with the type of Eagle.

So, now I was googling War of 1812 buttons, and Irish/American militia units.  I finally came across some references to Union Greens being a Militia unit in Baltimore, Md, founded in 1807.
I contacted Warren Tice and another big time button collector and both concurred on the age and it has been agreed upon that most likely based on a few references found on the Union Greens that it is indeed a button from an Irish American Militia unit most likely from Baltimore and War of 1812 era.

I'm attaching some data I found on the Union Greens and I did write to the Military Museum of Maryland in hopes of getting more information on the militia unit.  Also will be calling the Baltimore Historical Society on Monday in hopes of more information.

This button overshadowed my 1797 Half Cent find by a quantum leap and not sure, but it is probably a rare find and one that I will not forget, and I have found a couple other great buttons in the past, but this is right up there with them.

My son and I went to this site this afternoon and only one button was found, and nothing else, the site is small, it is also next to 1960s dumped trash so not the easiest conditions in the area.

So the finds at this site total, only one coin, and three buttons, one was a nice heavy Tombac, the Union Greens and a no backmark flat button.

Don


Here is one excerpt from a War of 1812 article that first led me in the direction of Union Greens being a Baltimore milita:

Prior to their departure for Canada, the First Baltimore Volunteers assembled in Baltimore to receive a valedictory sermon from the Reverend John Hargrove (1750-1839) of the New Jerusalem Church, who said “that a defense of [a] country’s rights, is among the best proofs of our patriotism.” [12] On September 28, the company began its long and arduous march for Canada to rendezvous with Colonel Winder’s command of the 14 U.S. Infantry. The Baltimore Independent Blues, the Union Greens, and a patriotic band of music escorted the troops through the city.[13]  On October 3, the men reached Carlisle, Pennsylvania, where they were praised for “every patriotic citizen wishes them a pleasant march, a successful campaign, a glorious victory.”
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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 02:32:44 pm

Beautiful find and love all the history and info you found on it also! Congrats Smiley

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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 02:34:21 pm

Wow, supurb button and great research.  Congrats on the half cent, too!  All in all it was a most excellent hunt  thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 02:39:10 pm

Great find Don !
Keep digging !    Robin
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 02:59:46 pm


  Sounding pretty good!  Can't wait to here...  the rest of the story!

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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 03:13:47 pm

WTG Don!!!  What a hunt...great finds!!  Hope to see more good stuff in the future...

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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 03:18:51 pm

Love those liberty caps. Congrats on the neat stuff!
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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 03:19:19 pm

That is a Awesome button,I do hope that the Military Museum of Maryland and/or the Historical Society gives you more info on this button. This being of the Irish/American Militia unit of War of 1812 is a Rare find and in Beautiful Condition.
It may take alittle more persuasion for others,but I personally Vote for this as a Banner Find and hope that others consider it.

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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 03:35:18 pm

Awesome button and it cleaned up beautifully. I hope it is a rare one, but is a great find regardless of its rarity!!!  thumbsup Great job on the research as well...congrats!!! Oh...and nice half cent too!!  Wink

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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 04:03:54 pm

that is a nice button and the half cent is nice also conpaired to the ones we find here in sj.
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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 04:10:51 pm

Don, that union greens button is an absolute beauty, definitley a true nitro moment for me anyday. And it is in great shape, you couldn't ask for more!. Another great hunt, and a great group of finds.....well done.

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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 04:15:27 pm

Wow Don, super find and very informative post. Looking forward to hearing more about this unique find.
I can already tell my CSN button in the banner will be moving over another notch to the right.  tongue3 Grin Wink
Great finds as usual.  thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 04:16:54 pm

Beautiful button there buddy, great finds  thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 04:19:45 pm

Those are some nice finds Don.

I love when a great old button like that comes up. Really gets the blood flowing. I'm after the same types of finds. Struck another LC today.

A 1839 with line under the cent. Also got a rare 66 indianhead and a general service eagle button. Nothing beats hunting those old homesteads.

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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 04:23:18 pm

The half cent rocks! You always have great posts, Don. Truly inspiring!

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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 04:24:51 pm

Great finds again Don,keep them coming!!
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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 04:34:34 pm

Don,

I have a hunch that your button is the Find of the hunt, and perhaps the best find of 2009 for you.  Did Mr. Tice express interest in having the button photographed and added to his catalogue or publications?

I'll be excited to hear what you can turn up on the button, in terms of value, history, etc.  I would imagine that it will prove to be a Very good find.   Wink


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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 04:52:35 pm

That is one special gilted button there Don. And you know how I feel about Liberty Caps. An all over wonderful day and you deserve to be congratulated. thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 04:56:38 pm

Wow, you definitely have a good day when the 1797 half cent doesn't even make the title.  That half cent is really nice!  As for the button wow!
So many colonial sites to hunt....so little time.

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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 04:58:49 pm

Phenomenal find Don.   I'm normally not much of a button guy but in this case I'm willing to make an exception.  Awesome!! headbang headbang icon_cheers 

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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 05:02:41 pm

St. Patty's Day, Irish Militia, Banner. Nuf said.
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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 05:04:36 pm

Awesome button...great history and nice detective work.  Just in time for St. Patrick's Day on Tuesday.

Congrats on the Half Cent...I hope your next one is the 1796.

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Reply To This Topic #22 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 05:17:10 pm

A beautiful button within an already fantastic bunch of finds Don! Congratulations are certainly the order of the day my friend... thumbsup thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #23 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 05:34:35 pm

WTG  Don! Awesome looking button. That 1/2 cent is still worth a "Pretty Penny" too! What var. is it? I musta missed it in your post if you ID'd it.  Congrats.      Hogge

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Reply To This Topic #24 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 06:03:10 pm

Beautiful find, Don thumbsup  Can't get any better than this...W  Shocked W!!

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Reply To This Topic #25 Posted Mar 14, 2009, 06:25:16 pm

Looks like BANNER to me, and needs to be in Best Finds. Congradulations.....
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Reply To This Topic #26 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 12:14:28 am

Very nice Don! very impressive


Reply To This Topic #27 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 01:45:36 am

Wow, I even think that its a really cool button Wink Cheesy Grin  Nice work thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #28 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 01:58:22 am

Congrats on the awesome button, is a beauty!  HH, Mike
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Reply To This Topic #29 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 02:52:26 am

Wow!! That is one heck of a button!!!! WTG!!!!

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Reply To This Topic #30 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 03:06:33 am

Sweet Finds Don !

    I Love the Union Greens !

don't Remember if I Ever saw one here before.

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Reply To This Topic #31 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 04:33:38 am

Congrats on the Banner Don! thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #32 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 04:38:42 am

Well done and Banner worthy indeed... and just in time for St. Patrick's Day, too!

I've never seen another Union Greens button, and doubt I'll ever see a better one.

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Reply To This Topic #33 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 05:03:46 am

Great buttons and looks like a pretty cool site.
Nope, It doesn't make the list!

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Reply To This Topic #34 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 05:06:13 am

Outstanding! A find of a life time! Congrats!  thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #35 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 05:08:03 am

Thats a beauty.  thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #36 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 05:20:46 am

***CONGRATS ON YOUR UNION GREEN BANNER FIND DON****
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Reply To This Topic #37 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 05:22:50 am

What a find. Congrats on the banner.

Reply To This Topic #38 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 06:32:25 am

Thanks for the Banner TNetters!   It is hard to think that I would ever be posting a 1797 Half Cent in decent shape and not have it in the title as previously mentioned, but this button did excite me much more so than the Half Cent, which is a super find but not unusual as the Union Greens button.

Nice to see buttons get the recognition they deserve, since they are so much a part of history, more so than most coins.

Speaking of the 1797, Hogge wanted to know the variety, well, there are three varieties for 1797 and mine is the more common one found, a Cohen 3a, Rarity 3. In fact it is my second Cohen 3a  and I do have Cohen 1 and 2 also, now just to find Cohen 3b and 3c! Wink

Hopefully tomorrow I will be able to update with some more information on the Irish unit of Union Greens, if I can get through to the right person at the Baltimore Historical Society.  thumbsup   

But I did get basically confirmation information from a book on the Irish in America.

The book that mentions the Union Greens and the symbol of the US Eagle with the Harp under the wing and it is on Google The book is titled: UNITED IRISHMEN, UNITED STATES  by David A Wilson

http://books.google.com/books?id=I2...amp;resnum=9&ct=result#PPA73,M1

On Page 79 in United Irishmen, by David A Wilson; it mentions that in 1807 the Irish were angered with the British over many atrocities being committed against them and thus the Irish started joining American militia units and raised companies of their own.
One of the companies formed in Baltimore was the UNION GREENS, whose banner of green depicted an eagle protecting a harp beneath its spreading wing.

Thanks again for banner recognition and hopefully I can get more information on the history behind the militia unit known as the UNION GREENS.

Don

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Reply To This Topic #39 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 06:59:19 am

Great finds Don!!! thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #40 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 09:23:45 am

Wow, Don, that's an Awesome button find!

I bet you never thought about finding that item.  That's what is so exciting about our hobby....You just never know what you're going to find, especially out in the Woods!!

Congrats on the Banner, and on your Liberty Cap!!  Well deserved.  When you find something that special and out of the ordinary, you will never forget it. 

And so ironic, considering the holiday this Tues.!!  thumbsup thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #41 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 09:38:30 am

Thanks for the Banner TNetters!   It is hard to think that I would ever be posting a 1797 Half Cent in decent shape and not have it in the title as previously mentioned, but this button did excite me much more so than the Half Cent, which is a super find but not unusual as the Union Greens button.

Nice to see buttons get the recognition they deserve, since they are so much a part of history, more so than most coins.

Speaking of the 1797, Hogge wanted to know the variety, well, there are three varieties for 1797 and mine is the more common one found, a Cohen 3a, Rarity 3. In fact it is my second Cohen 3a  and I do have Cohen 1 and 2 also, now just to find Cohen 3b and 3c! Wink

Hopefully tomorrow I will be able to update with some more information on the Irish unit of Union Greens, if I can get through to the right person at the Baltimore Historical Society.  thumbsup   

But I did get basically confirmation information from a book on the Irish in America.

The book that mentions the Union Greens and the symbol of the US Eagle with the Harp under the wing and it is on Google The book is titled: UNITED IRISHMEN, UNITED STATES  by David A Wilson

http://books.google.com/books?id=I2...amp;resnum=9&ct=result#PPA73,M1

On Page 79 in United Irishmen, by David A Wilson; it mentions that in 1807 the Irish were angered with the British over many atrocities being committed against them and thus the Irish started joining American militia units and raised companies of their own.
One of the companies formed in Baltimore was the UNION GREENS, whose banner of green depicted an eagle protecting a harp beneath its spreading wing.

Thanks again for banner recognition and hopefully I can get more information on the history behind the militia unit known as the UNION GREENS.

Don


   I agree, think banner...  almost there.  Cheesy

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Reply To This Topic #42 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 09:53:32 am

Very cool Don......awesome history right there !  thumbsup  thumbsup  thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #43 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 10:08:43 am

Yet another great hunt Don, you never stop impressing us all!   thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #44 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 02:42:04 pm

Wow I def would like to hear more about the union green button

Important Disclaimer:  No racist- slurs, Innuendos or Insults implied in the above post.

 AND, I don't have time to spell check!
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Reply To This Topic #45 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 02:48:11 pm

WOW Don...I bow to his notworthy banner'ness

Way ta go..and a heartfelt gaw-dang!
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Reply To This Topic #46 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 02:58:06 pm

Congrat's Don on a Beautiful button......
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Reply To This Topic #47 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 03:18:44 pm

What a awesome hunt, may not be much there but its the good stuff! Love the button that's one you can proudly display! The Half cent would have made my day for sure its in good shape, Id hunt there again for sure maybe next time there you will get the 96 and a GW inaugural good as the finds coming from there are. HH!!  thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #48 Posted Mar 15, 2009, 04:00:27 pm

Super Find! Let us know what that one is worth.
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Reply To This Topic #49 Posted Mar 16, 2009, 06:13:42 am

What a fantastic post!  Congrats on the banner.

The button is in such amazing shape, too!  It is amazing that the area you are in produces such a different assortment of finds.  50 miles or so makes a huge difference in what is beneath our feet.  Nearly all the buttons found in this area are plain front flat buttons.  The people in this region were farmers and millers, as opposed to the seafaring folks and transients down your way. 

I am looking forward to reading the update from the folks down in MD.

Happy hunting
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Reply To This Topic #50 Posted Mar 16, 2009, 06:58:44 am

Don, The history lesson is almost as good as that awesome button. I agree with PBK the only one we will probably ever see in our lifetimes. Because of you and your research we all get to have a glimpse of the past.

CONGRATULATIONS on a BANNER find!

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Reply To This Topic #51 Posted Mar 16, 2009, 07:30:24 am

congrats on those awesome finds !!!!

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Reply To This Topic #52 Posted Mar 16, 2009, 10:08:10 am

Wow...AWESOME finds indeed!!!!
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Reply To This Topic #53 Posted Mar 16, 2009, 10:18:00 am

Really neat find, Don!  Congrats!
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Reply To This Topic #54 Posted Mar 16, 2009, 05:29:12 pm

 Shocked Shocked  Holy smokes !!!! intense finds !!  thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #55 Posted Mar 16, 2009, 09:10:52 pm

All the features on that button are stunning.  The condition, detail, beauty, rarity, history, and so much more.  I hope soemday to find some of those old old homesites as well.  Ill be happy with a fraction of the finds you have accumulated.  You did well, congratulations!
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Reply To This Topic #56 Posted Mar 17, 2009, 11:44:46 am

Update:  No new information, I have gone through a book on all the Maryland units that particpated in battles during War of 1812 and came up empty on anything mentioning the Union Greens.  Perhaps they were more of a parade type "pomp and circumstance" unit that never saw action, or maybe more of a local police type militia. 

I have several leads out and hope I get some more information before it becomes a deadend... 

A curator at Williamsburg also looked into them to no avail. Sad

Don

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Reply To This Topic #57 Posted Mar 17, 2009, 01:02:38 pm

Awesome button, and a great hunt thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #58 Posted Mar 17, 2009, 02:44:09 pm

Hey Don, Congrats on some great finds.
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Reply To This Topic #59 Posted Mar 17, 2009, 06:48:51 pm

Congrats on a great find Don. thumbsup thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #60 Posted Mar 21, 2009, 06:43:45 am

Fantastic find Don   amazing how well it held the gilt   that jersey soil is certainly kind   continued good luck   ps if you don't want the 1797 hc    jk
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Reply To This Topic #61 Posted Mar 21, 2009, 04:31:12 pm

Update:  No new information, I have gone through a book on all the Maryland units that particpated in battles during War of 1812 and came up empty on anything mentioning the Union Greens.  Perhaps they were more of a parade type "pomp and circumstance" unit that never saw action, or maybe more of a local police type militia. 

I have several leads out and hope I get some more information before it becomes a deadend... 

A curator at Williamsburg also looked into them to no avail. Sad

Don

Don....try all the museums in Maryland as well as the AMVETS, also could try someone at the Army's history center..not sure where they would be, but someone must have some more info on the button. With all the difficulty finding out more info on it, it proves the rarity of the button (and the Union Greens themselves) and makes it all the more intriguing as well as making it more of a unique find. Congrats again on a fantastic specimen of our Nations history as well on making a well desreved banner find!!!  thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #62 Posted Mar 21, 2009, 05:28:56 pm

Amazing button - great find!

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Reply To This Topic #63 Posted Mar 22, 2009, 05:26:54 am

Stop it Don! stop You're making us all look bad!

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Reply To This Topic #64 Posted Mar 22, 2009, 07:35:03 am

real nice finds. good job
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Reply To This Topic #65 Posted Mar 22, 2009, 11:05:48 am

Looks like you had some tough terrain......but you came out with some good digs......well done

Happy Hunting,

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Reply To This Topic #66 Posted Mar 23, 2009, 03:59:10 pm

I got my first response to the several e-mails I put out after I found the Union Greens button, I wish I had some information to add, but not really.  I think I already found the list mentioned in this email, but not 100%.  It is quite possible the Union Greens were absorbed into another company for awhile or perhaps they did not see any military action but instead were more along the lines of augmenting the Police in Baltimore during that time frame.

Still looking and hoping to get some more information.............


Excerpts from the reply:

 Sir,

It sounds as if the Union Greens were a company within a Maryland volunteer
militia unit. As to which regiment it belonged to, I don't know. I know it
wasn't the 5th MD, since I have the company names within that unit, and Union
Greens is not one of them.

The best thing for you to do is to check the list of Maryland militia
units/personnel in the War of 1812. We do not have a copy, but there is a
copy in th MD Historical Society or Enoch Pratt Free Library of Baltimore.
It's possible that this book (it's actually several volumes) might mention
the companies within each regiment of MD militia.

Hope this helps.
 
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Command Historian, MD National Guard
Fifth Regiment Armory
Baltimore MD 21201

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Reply To This Topic #67 Posted Mar 23, 2009, 04:35:36 pm

wow that liberyt cap half cent is awesome don in sj. i have found 34 liberty cap coppers in my career. they are my favorite coppers to dig. that button would be a beautiful centerpiece artifact.

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Reply To This Topic #68 Posted Mar 23, 2009, 05:21:02 pm

Don...too bad the Command Historian at the Maryland National Guard couldn;t offer you more...though I bet you REALLY spiked his interest now... Wink And if he is like most historians I know, he will be researching that INTENSELY for they don't like unanswered questions much and LOVE a challenge, so hopefully you;ll be hearing back from him.

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Reply To This Topic #69 Posted Mar 24, 2009, 07:03:56 pm

Oh man Don, gorgeous button and superb find!!  thumbsup  I hope there is more where you dug that one!

Steve

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Reply To This Topic #70 Posted Mar 24, 2009, 07:39:06 pm

WOW!!! SUPER CONGRATULATIONS!!
HAPPY HUNTING!!

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Reply To This Topic #71 Posted Mar 31, 2009, 01:44:06 pm

Update:  No new information, I have gone through a book on all the Maryland units that particpated in battles during War of 1812 and came up empty on anything mentioning the Union Greens.  Perhaps they were more of a parade type "pomp and circumstance" unit that never saw action, or maybe more of a local police type militia. 

I have several leads out and hope I get some more information before it becomes a deadend... 

A curator at Williamsburg also looked into them to no avail. Sad

Don

Hi Don. I just read this thread after seeing the banner pic. Did a quick search, and came across this newspaper page:

http://www.msa.md.gov/megafile/msa/...8000/m8400/m8495/pdf/m8495-0020.pdf

Here's the text:

"BALTIMORE UNION GREENS
You are desired to assemble at the theater at half past 5 o'clock on the morning of the 4th July inst with arms and accoutrements in good order to join the brigade, and assist in celebrating the Anniversary of our Nationalization.
THOMAS MOORE Capt.
N.B. cartridges will be furnished on the ground.
July 3rd"

From reading through, looks like the page is from 1810.

Followed up with a search for Captain Thomas Moore, and there are several references to one who owned a fleet of 100 ships in Solomons, MD, but nothing matched Captain (Capt) Thomas Moore and Union Greens. Hope this helps.

Reply To This Topic #72 Posted Mar 31, 2009, 01:48:38 pm

  Hi Don. I just read this thread after seeing the banner pic. Did a quick search, and came across this newspaper page:

http://www.msa.md.gov/megafile/msa/...8000/m8400/m8495/pdf/m8495-0020.pdf

Here's the text:

"BALTIMORE UNION GREENS
You are desired to assemble at the theater at half past 5 o'clock on the morning of the 4th July inst with arms and accoutrements in good order to join the brigade, and assist in celebrating the Anniversary of our Nationalization.
THOMAS MOORE Capt.
N.B. cartridges will be furnished on the ground.
July 3rd"

From reading through, looks like the page is from 1810.

Followed up with a search for Captain Thomas Moore, and there are several references to one who owned a fleet of 100 ships in Solomons, MD, but nothing matched Captain (Capt) Thomas Moore and Union Greens. Hope this helps.

THANKS< that at least adds to what little information I have and having a name possibly associated with them might help in further research!  Thankyou!!!

Don

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Reply To This Topic #73 Posted Mar 31, 2009, 02:22:18 pm

Another piece of the puzzle, but at least it is more information:  Capt Thomas Moore, Artillery, 49th Regt War of 1812.  This may help to lead to more information, it is not an easy one that is for sure.

Reference:
http://books.google.com/books?id=_o...p;ei=xCd5SfKsHonwkQTc7KXaBg#PPP1,M1

Don
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Reply To This Topic #74 Posted Mar 31, 2009, 02:52:17 pm

One thing I love about this hobby.  It doesn't start with metal detecting, and it doesn't end with metal detecting.  It begins with research and it ends with research.

Keep us all posted!!
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Reply To This Topic #75 Posted Mar 31, 2009, 03:34:08 pm

Don, thanks for the history story and the great items to view.   thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #76 Posted Apr 02, 2009, 08:58:42 am

Dangit Don leave some for the rest of us.  Grin
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