German Gold-Gulden Coin, 1480 !

Hi T-Netters !   

Want to show you todays find:

Gold Gulden
Cologne, Germany, about 1480.

Hermann von Hessen, 1480-1508
Minted in Bonn

Diametre 2,2 centimetres

that coin looks sweet! congrats.

How rare is that coin?  What area of the country were you in?
How deep? Inquiring minds want to know. Jimbob

Very nice !!   I would like to hear more about the coin too

                                                                     VPR

Hello again 

The coin was found on an island in Denmark, Europe !
On the top of a hill.
It was found in a depth of 6 centimetres.

The coin is very rare in this part of Europe !

 

Banner coin

Howdy neighbour!
Sweet coin for sure!

Keep at it,
Eu

Very Nice Find


CONGRATS !

Jeff

That's awesome!

I can only dream of finding something that cool!

I would be scanning that whole area like crazy for more of those!

beautiful coin !!!!

That is remarkably old,Congrats on a banner find

fortbball9

Dane,
I don't know much about the coin, but it sounds like one heck of a find. I can't imagine finding a coin that old.
Congrats on your BANNER find!!! 
-MM-

AWESOME FIND!  Congratulations on your Banner!         Hogge

Thats banner find  .

Awesome!!!!!

Any gold coin in any country reflects the amount of time & effort spent (or sometimes luck).  Most importantly YOU found it & that is what mades this hobbie the best in the world

Any gold coin in any country reflects the amount of time & effort spent (or sometimes luck).  Most importantly YOU found it & that what mades this hobbie the best in the world

amen

nice job on the coin!!!

A find like this is what keeps us going...congrats to you and the Banner find...any idea about what might have been in the area that many centuries ago, or was this a purely lucky find...more details for the inquiring minds here in Fla...on the Treasure Coast...you are in a Special Club of Gold Finders !!!

You ever wonder what kind of history that coin had?  Who owned it and how it came about so many years ago on top of a hill.
Good find.

Wow!  Maybe you're onto a hoard, and this coin is the cherry-on-top..

Congratulations!!

great find!  Way to swing those coils

Very nice 

That  is  a  stunning  find
The  coin  is  in  beautiful condition
Congrats

1480!!!

The only thing that old in this part of the world is rocks.

Congratulations on the banner.

Congratulations on that great find.    That is a beauty!!!

DANGLANGLEY

 German Gold. Wow and 1480. I think we were pounding copper over here at that time. Congrats on the banner sir.
TnMountains

What a superb treasure find   
and congrats on the Banner 

Did you find anything else nearby?

Mike

Nydelig funn, stå på! Håper du finner mer.. 

Well done on an amazing find!

Hi all !

Thank you very much ! 

To sum up a little on all your questions, I can tell you that my first thought was a hoard, a large gold treasure dug down in that field, and a detector buddy and I have of course searched the area very intensively !! We have NOT found any more coins, and only very few finds at all, and only 1 or 2 that could be medieval. We will keep looking.
The find is strange in that matter that it is single, and a bit off everything. However there are 2 wellknown midieval fortifications in a rang of under 1 mile from the place.
Talking about age, I think that we here have an other view on that matter. I have found coins that are older (not gold, this was my first) but those were lousy copper ones, but from the beginning of the 1300.
On the same field there is a settlement from the stone age, dating back to 3000 BC. and we have found about 10 artifact from that time there.

Keep asking, if you want to know more ! 

PS:

great find! 

Thanks ....
... and great looks, I might add ! 

(Sorry couldn´t help it, had to say ! )

wow the age alone is impressive then on top of that GOLD, and that thing sure has aged well. Congrats big time.

Beautiful Gold coin, thanks for sharing, and congratulations on a well deserved banner!

Dane,

Congrats on a most beautiful coin. 

I am very interested to see some pictures of the stone tools you have found on the site.  I have seen a few Danish stone artifacts in the past, but would love to see some more.  I spent a large part of my youth looking for American stone artifacts, and find the Danish flint work to be outstanding.

Thanks,
Jon Dickinson
www.prehistoricartifacts.com

Incredible lifetime find no doubt!  Thanks for the incredible post! 

Thank you guys ! 

In some few days the coin will be delivered to the museum.
In my country there is an ancient law, called the "Danefae-lov" that says that all things that are found in the soil is the "property of the King", today meaning the state.
Danefae is an ancient norse name meaning: Ownerless goods or No mans property.
The law dates back to the medieval law "Jyske Lov" from 1241, saying that, "what no man owns belongs to the King, finds any man gold or silver in tombs or after the plow or in any other way, then the King shall have it.
I will as compensation get an amount of money, tax-free, from the National Museum in Copenhagen.
The law, and the fact that any child knows about it, is of great importance for the studies of and knowledge about our common cultural heritage in my country.
This law has made it possible that, so to say, no danish artifacts get on "the black market", and that we today in the National Museum have one of the finest collections of antiquity and medieval in the world.

TheDane 

Thank you guys ! 

In some few days the coin will be delivered to the museum.
In my country there is an ancient law, called the "Danefae-lov" that says that all things that are found in the soil is the "property of the King", today meaning the state.
Danefae is an ancient norse name meaning: Ownerless goods or No mans property.
The law dates back to the medieval law "Jyske Lov" from 1241, saying that, "what no man owns belongs to the King, finds any man gold or silver in tombs or after the plow or in any other way, then the King shall have it.
I will as compensation get an amount of money, tax-free, from the National Museum in Copenhagen.
The law, and the fact that any child knows about it, is of great importance for the studies of and knowledge about our common cultural heritage in my country.
This law has made it possible that, so to say, no danish artifacts get on "the black market", and that we today in the National Museum have one of the finest collections of antiquity and medieval in the world.

TheDane 

I totally understand & respect that you follow the Law of the land, in the same way that I do in the UK.
However, I disagree that it stops your artefact's getting on the black market.  They do.  Our system is far from perfect, but you can encourage responsible reporting without taking 'everything' off the people that work hard to find them.  The UK would go bust if it had to pay for all the objects we find, & they 'cherry pick' which means we still maintain a premier collection.  The black market will exsist not matter what Laws we have, its Human nature.

Can´t say that I disagree with you, Crusader !

What I wanted to stress was the fact that such a law, and especially the awareness of the people towards this law, is importent for our country. People actually feel pride, when they can send in something to the National Museum.
But you are right, I wrote that to be misunderstood. Of course you can never 100 % prevent a black market.
English isn´t my main language. Danish and german are better.

Thank you
TheDane.

Can´t say that I disagree with you, Crusader !

What I wanted to stress was the fact that such a law, and especially the awareness of the people towards this law, is importent for our country. People actually feel pride, when they can send in something to the National Museum.
But you are right, I wrote that to be misunderstood. Of course you can never 100 % prevent a black market.
English isn´t my main language. Danish and german are better.

Thank you
TheDane.

Ok, no worries, your English is excellent.
I'm glad you & others have pride in sacrificing your hard earnt objects.  If I found a hoard of gold coins, I would have no second thoughts in reporting it.  However, I do this under the understanding that I either get them back, get some of them back, or get the market value.  The market value means little to me, as money holds no interest to me.  Recording the information for future study & getting the objects back is my preferred option.  If they belong in a Museum, for everyone to see (& not locked in drawers), then I'm happy to part with them knowing that we all benefit.
Interesting to learn other countries approaches to the same issue.

Looking at that thing is a humbling experience.

Can´t say that I disagree with you, Crusader !

What I wanted to stress was the fact that such a law, and especially the awareness of the people towards this law, is importent for our country. People actually feel pride, when they can send in something to the National Museum.
But you are right, I wrote that to be misunderstood. Of course you can never 100 % prevent a black market.
English isn´t my main language. Danish and german are better.

Thank you
TheDane.

Ok, no worries, your English is excellent.
I'm glad you & others have pride in sacrificing your hard earnt objects.  If I found a hoard of gold coins, I would have no second thoughts in reporting it.  However, I do this under the understanding that I either get them back, get some of them back, or get the market value.  The market value means little to me, as money holds no interest to me.  Recording the information for future study & getting the objects back is my prefected option.  If they belong in a Museum, for everyone to see (& not locked in drawers), then I'm happy to part with them knowing that we all benefit.
Interesting to learn other countries approaches to the same issue.

Much respect.

Banner Bump!

Great banner find!

HH,
Karl

Awesome coin, Steen.   

This one deserves to be added to the "Best of TNet" thread for posterity.

DM

Wow   amazing find  and in such good shape  congrats

Way to go on a great find.   And I especially liked the discussion between TheDane and the fellow from England, and the
different countries' rules.    Perhaps this post could be sent to some of our elected officials, and they might see a different
way of doing business.   Your rules predate the pilgrims crossing the Atlantic, even Columbus sailing to discover the New
World.   Wonder if the new kid on the block, aka  The U.S.ofA, could learn something from our older cousins?
Again, great post.

That is a tiny work of art, beautiful!

Way to go on a great find.   And I especially liked the discussion between TheDane and the fellow from England, and the
different countries' rules.    Perhaps this post could be sent to some of our elected officials, and they might see a different
way of doing business.   Your rules predate the pilgrims crossing the Atlantic, even Columbus sailing to discover the New
World.   Wonder if the new kid on the block, aka  The U.S.ofA, could learn something from our older cousins?
Again, great post.

Talking about rules in the US.

How are rules in you country?

Are there things that must be given to museums, or can the finder always keep the finds?  

Would realy interest me !

 

Will reply to your question the best I know how.   
First, in S. Korea, I only know of one Korean person who has a metal detector.....saw a program about him a couple of times on t.v.   He hunts beaches with his wife.....she is the digger.   He makes tons of finds on the beaches he hunts.   
Certain areas are off-limits, such as old castle sites, old Buddhist temple ruins, etc.   Anything in the seas are off-limits to hunting.
And, I am pretty sure that anything that might have particular historic interest must be reported.   But, to who, I have no idea.
I do have one object that myself and another helper have found, that I will be turning in to the museum nearest the place where we found it.   
As far as coins go, we did do some research on them, and there are no restrictions on hunting the older coins.   
So, things are pretty open for hunting coins, and there are many many public hiking areas, and the country has not developed
the "fencing" mentallity.   Much more open to people in the hills, then in the States......even tho all the mts are owned by someone.
That's the best I can do about S. Korea's laws on metal detecting.   I do feel very comfortable and fortunate in being able to detect here.

Thank you, hikeinmts ! 

Very interesting to hear about S. Korea, do you actually live there, your avatar says the US ?

I was actually hoping to hear something about the rules in the USA too !

Maybe someone will enlighten me ! 

[Treasure Hunting America Texas Style]

Hi TheDane i think i located your coin online listed @ this
web site & it shows a value associated with it

http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/ritter/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=1730

from anouther web site i located this info.


Dave

Hi TheDane i think i located your coin online listed @ this
web site & it shows a value associated with it

http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/ritter/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=1730

Dave

Nice research, but fairly irrelavant when its being given up to the Museum.  He gets a finders fee/reward instead.(I think)

Thank you guys !!

Not entirely irrelevant, gives me an idea what level the reward could / should be !

Thanks ! 

Hello, to TheDane,\
I do live in S. Korea.   I own a small business here, so do my metal detecting here.   I am from the U.S., Oregon State, but am
only back in the States once every 4 or 5 years.   So, I do not know too much about the rules of metal detecting there, except
that any government land seems to be off-limits.  (Someone correct me if I am wrong.)
Of course, approval for any hunting on pvt. land.    And any Indian sites are off-limits.......if that were strictly enforced, then
there would be almost no hunting allowed anywhere, as the Indians lived in/on the land for centuries before the Europeans
got there.
Archeologists try to restrict THing as much as they can.  Not like they will ever be able to hunt/do digs on all the sites that they
want put off-limits.   Just, they don't want any of us to dig.   (Is "selfish" the right word?)
Anything of any value, normally, will end up in court, as ne-er-do-wells try to get as much of a cut of the pie as possible......
along with the lawyers, who use the law to line their pockets.   (Forget ethics.   Just, can I win the case, by hook or by crook.
O.J.......are you listening?)
Other than that, you will get some good - better than my - info about rules, etc.

Great coin, but get your own thread.
cjc

Great coin, but get your own thread.
cjc

 

Great coin, but get your own thread.
cjc

 

me too

Great coin, but get your own thread.
cjc

You mean me, cjc ... 

... or what´s up !

I think it is my thread ! 

wow!!!very nice coin!!!!!!