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You are right Hfor8. They are identical.

Maybe that is the original that all the fakes were copied from. 

The guy had a good feedback rating, Maybe he didn't know it was fake.

Stan

lol, great point(s) I notice he didn't relist it yet either. I almost bid on it and then I read the post here about it being a 53 and not the other date. Then I went back through Sedwicks and notice it had a close friend. I think I might avoid it now. It's a great copy if it is a fake.

Frank Sedwick's fake cob database coin (first pic), followed by two views of an Ebay fake currentlty being offered (see link). Note change in date and assayer.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pirates-Spanish...lver-Cob-Coin_W0QQitemZ150375522649

Stan

Good eye... they're getting sneaky on us

Yeah, check this one out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270486682115

Another version of the same fake. The bidder should know better than buying a cob from China!

Stan

Would be nice with a date between the pillars too:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1669-Potosi-Cob...n-Clear-dates_W0QQitemZ140360885779


Same seller has another fairly nice one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1689-Potosi-Cob...l-Lovely-Coin_W0QQitemZ140360883470


I like this coin. 1684 Potosi 8R assayer VR. Bold strike, nice toning and full weight. You seldom see coins from the Feversham wreck. A little high on the price side, but after seeing prices realized at the Sedwick auction I think it is reasonable. Would make a nice addition to anyone's collection....

http://cgi.ebay.com/PERU-8-REAL-COB...-1684-1711-XF_W0QQitemZ330356954690

Stan

Sorry fantasy piece sitting at $103 with three bids and three hours to go....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130345049488

I wrote the buyer about authenticity and he wrote back that he could not retract the auction and that the buyer could return it if they weren't happy....

Stan

Sorry fantasy piece sitting at $103 with three bids and three hours to go....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130345049488

I wrote the buyer about authenticity and he wrote back that he could not retract the auction and that the buyer could return it if they weren't happy....

Stan

OMG sold at $162.50 with 5 different bidders!    How can that be?  It sure looks fake to me. I saved the entire page for future reference, Mexican seller, buyer and pics.


Seller info
ayleenalejandraevelyn ( 1456)
100% Positive feedback


COINS COLONIAL OF MÉXICO

CIRCULATED

 8 REALES YEAR 1616, FELIPE III

COIN COLONIAL NOT LISTED IN THE CATALOG COINS & PRICES (18th EDITION)


Thanks for your bids and hope you are a winner !!!!

I decided to search through my collection of fakes, replicas and fantasy, and sure enough, I got a match from the same mold. The buyers and seller should have checked with us first LOL.

Good job Big C!

Since I still had the seller's response to me I wrote him back and included your pics.

I'll let you know how he answers to the charges....

Stan

Considering his excellent 100 percent positive feedback rating in 1,456 sales, my guess would be he didnt know.  That probably contributed to the buyers bidding with confidence.

I notice my pic also came from a past eBay sale. (notice the camera icon in the bottom right corner) I dont know the sellers name.

Considering his excellent 100 percent positive feedback rating in 1,456 sales, my guess would be he didnt know.  That probably contributed to the buyers bidding with confidence.

I notice my pic also came from a past eBay sale. (notice the camera icon in the bottom right corner) I dont know the sellers name.

Well, his English must not be much better than my Spanish. In my follow-up to him I wrote:

"Here is proof the one you sold is fake. It was cast from the same mold as yours. Will you inform the seller? Selling a replica coin as real is against Ebay rules (and against the law, at least in the US)."

And he wrote back:

MR. STAN
I thank you the information and images.
THIS WARN YOU.
SINCERELY
GMG (gmgrifaldo@hotmail.com)


I'm not sure what he was trying to say....Stan






--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: divewrecks@hotmail.com
To: gmgrifaldo@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: You've received an answer to your question about item MÉXICO) 8 REALES 1616, FELIPE III, NOT CATALOG, F - VF
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:17:25 -0500

I dont know what he means. Maybe he says thanks for the warning. I believe he will refund the money if necessary. I also believe if the buyer is happy, he will not say anything. Maybe we can read the buyers feedback.

SOLD $162.50!   http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130345049488

I cant find the feedback for this item. This sellers record is excellent..   http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...p;ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true

I bought this one for myself. I couldn't resist and the only buying option was buy-it-now. Four dates! I really like the double-strike....
http://cgi.ebay.com/PIRATES-TREASUR...REALES-POTOSI_W0QQitemZ110468209098

Cool little pierced one reale for a charm bracelet:
http://cgi.ebay.com/PIRATES-TREASUR...1-REALE-HOLED_W0QQitemZ110468188037....

Or an older 2 reale starting at $24.99....
http://cgi.ebay.com/PIRATES-TREASUR...-REALES-HOLED_W0QQitemZ110468177256

How about this little smoothie....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Bolivia-Silver-...es-1767-KM-43_W0QQitemZ200416137538

Not a bad Mexican 4 reale....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1657-Mexico-Spa...ales-Cob-Coin_W0QQitemZ110467896690

Coin isn't great and neither is the chain <g>, but the setting is different:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Potosi-1738-cob...olid-gold-11g_W0QQitemZ380186244359

Not bad for a Concepcion coin, Burt Webber signed cert, might be a good deal if it doesn't go too high....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1639-8-Reale-Xt...ck-Concepcion_W0QQitemZ350290700355

This sucker is a little too round....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1712-2-Reales-P...olivia-Silver_W0QQitemZ290379153160

Not bad little replicas for $11. Good little Christmas gift for a pirate's stocking....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pewter-ATOCHA-r...-8-4-2-REALES_W0QQitemZ120503545389

Nice Capitana coin. The seller, Joel Ruth, was the head coin conservator on the Capitana treasure recovery...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Potosi-8-Reales...1654-Capitana_W0QQitemZ160385390665


Enjoy....

Stan

1618 mounted Grade 1 Atocha coin. The cert doesn't even indicate a date (XXXX) Cert indicates weight at 26.28g, which is pretty respectable for an Atocha coin. This might end up being a decent buy for someone looking for an Atocha coin:
http://cgi.ebay.com/AUTHENTIC-ATOCH...H-CERTIFICATE_W0QQitemZ260521723760

Not one of the cave hoard coins, but same general mint, year, and assayer....
http://cgi.ebay.com/SPANISH-MEXICO-...ATU-1729-30-R_W0QQitemZ200412657330

Assayer J, so could pass as a 1715 Fleet coin....
http://cgi.ebay.com/SPANISH-MEXICO-...OIN-REAL-BATU_W0QQitemZ370299658495

The Lucayan beach wreck is thought to be one of Dutch pirate Piet Hien's ships. Read story of wreck here (http://www.sedwickcoins.com/shipwreck_histories/lucayan.htm). Also, a funny read on the find is "Winners and Losers" by Jack Slack (serious). Here is a 4 reale coin from the wreck:
http://cgi.ebay.com/MEXICO-CITY-COB...CK-COIN-162-4_W0QQitemZ250546391661

Stan

http://cgi.ebay.com/Bolivia-Silver-...es-1767-KM-43_W0QQitemZ200416137538
I saved pics of all the suspicious cobs. Thanks Stan.
Do you think this smoothie is authentic?  Looks funky.

I actually posted that one knowing you would probably say something about it (ha-ha), but yes I am fairly certain it is real. A lot of the late issue Potosi cobs really look hokey enough to make you think imitation. If you have Menzels' book have a look at coins from about 1740 on up. I personally like the "free style" look...

Stan

I actually posted that one knowing you would probably say something about it (ha-ha), but yes I am fairly certain it is real. A lot of the late issue Potosi cobs really look hokey enough to make you think imitation. If you have Menzels' book have a look at coins from about 1740 on up. I personally like the "free style" look...

Stan

OK thanks. Im learning. I could see that it was silver but the lions and castles look funky among other things.  Like I said earlier, the more I learn about cobs, the less confidant I am in spotting suspicious coins. lol.  I also notice a severely worn coin will not look at all like it was originally.

There is really no substitute for reference materials and the ability to openly discuss characteristics of individual coins. Hopefully we can do more of that on this forum. I track auctions almost daily to develop a sense of value. I have also enjoyed sitting through the last two Sedwick auctions nearly in their entirety to see what prices are realized. Prior to the auction I use the hard copy catalog to reserach particular coins and make notes. I was quite surprised at what some of the coins were going for.

I have actually been able to get some fairly good deals on very nice coins through Ebay. Obviously, one has to be careful when learning and not make a mistake like the buyer of the heart shaped coin I posted the thread on today....

Stan

I have been buying and selling antiquities on and off for many years but Im no expert on cobs and I dont buy them. You really need to know what you are doing. Its amazing the replicas and fakes on the market.

I have been buying and selling antiquities on and off for many years but Im no expert on cobs and I dont buy them. You really need to know what you are doing. Its amazing the replicas and fakes on the market.

What kind of antiquities do you specialize in? Another period collectible I like is Spanish colonial religious medals and crucifixes.

I also have a fairly large collection of United Confederate Reunion (UCV) medals, pins, and ribbons.

Stan

I have been buying and selling antiquities on and off for many years but Im no expert on cobs and I dont buy them. You really need to know what you are doing. Its amazing the replicas and fakes on the market.

What kind of antiquities do you specialize in? Another period collectible I like is Spanish colonial religious medals and crucifixes.

I also have a fairly large collection of United Confederate Reunion (UCV) medals, pins, and ribbons.

Stan

I dont specialize in anything particular. I have boxes of antique tools in my warehouse (mostly Stanley) that I didnt finish selling on eBay. I also have bottles and coins not for sale. Im always looking for a bargain.

A little "replica" corrosion to make it look like authentic Atocha....
http://cgi.ebay.com/MD486-CUBA-SPAI...N-PLATA-AGRIA_W0QQitemZ400091492964

Assayer P (unknown), from comparison of the shield and the simple castle style with other pics, I believe this to be mid 1640's....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1665-Mexico-Spa...ales-Cob-Coin_W0QQitemZ150397267800

Too bad "good" in this case doesn't mean as good as the ones pictured on the front of the book. The heck with making a mount, I'll just solder a loop on....
http://cgi.ebay.com/CONCEPCION-1640...ILVER-COB-COA_W0QQitemZ370305770307

I think someone hammered the lip out on this one to make a little flange for the hole....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lima-Peru-cob-4...-silver-holed_W0QQitemZ150397156273

I wish this one would sell, I'm sick of seeing it. No, it wasn't from some beach in the keys.  I'll bet its from the Consolación (“Isla de Muerto shipwreck”), sunk in 1681 off Santa Clara Island, Ecuador:
http://cgi.ebay.com/1678-SPANISH-SI...-COIN-4-REALE_W0QQitemZ250547151554

Another soldered on loop, but might be fun to wear if on a budget....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Genuine-Antique...c-1500s-1600s_W0QQitemZ260522770120

Dolphins jumping over a fairly decent 4 reale:
http://cgi.ebay.com/MEXICO-SPANISH-...PHINS-PENDENT_W0QQitemZ170419158924

Silver copy of a gold coin. Read this guy's description....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1713-SILVER-COI...-GOLD-PENDANT_W0QQitemZ320461460970

Show me emeralds, but sell me a crappy piece of pottery....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1715-Spanish-Pl...f-History-COA_W0QQitemZ200417084298

Stan

 I always enjoy Stan's Picks. I could not believe the one with dolphins. That was hilarious reale or not!!!!
TnMtns

Take a look at this coin. I believe it's a copy, and is marked as such. The seller says the coin is marked "COAY."

http://cgi.ebay.com/Atocha-Treasure...DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2ea9ce0f0e

Update: She changed the item to a Mah Jong set.

Take a look at this coin. I believe it's a copy, and is marked as such. The seller says the coin is marked "COAY."

http://cgi.ebay.com/Atocha-Treasure...DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2ea9ce0f0e

Its definitely a copy and that what it says. LOL COAY I never heard that one. I guess its worth 99 cents.

I always enjoy Stan's Picks. I could not believe the one with dolphins. That was hilarious reale or not!!!!
TnMtns

Thanks Richard. The dolphin might not be that bad if you worked at Sea World or something....
Stan

Take a look at this coin. I believe it's a copy, and is marked as such. The seller says the coin is marked "COAY."

http://cgi.ebay.com/Atocha-Treasure...DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2ea9ce0f0e

That's great, I missed that one. Here is a question he just answered on the post...

 "Q: hello,i all so am not an expert on these coins,but i would like to know more about your listing.if you would please tell me can you make out any numbers on this coin,and would you tell me pompeard to a u.s. coin what would be its size.also the pic,s are very por can you try to list better ones.thank you    Dec-12-09

A:     I can not see any numbers. I see some letters that look like COAY or Co9Y not positive what these letters are. I do not have a great camera I did my best with pictures. Coin is about l 1/2 inches wide across the width"

Stan

Update from seller of coin stamped "copy":

> Dear *divewrecks*,
>
> This was found in delray beach water while I was walking on the beach in
> the water. How could this get in the water, and if it is a reproduction
> does it have any value. I am a senior lady and will not be disonest. Please
> advise. thank you

I tried to let her down easy....
Stan

You gotta feel for some of the people on ebay

Did you tell her Stan that the real ones are silver and not plastic with words COAY. 

From the guy selling a silver copy of the gold coin:

"Thank you Stan...I see by your contact name you must know about wrecks...I
took my 1713 coin off the market...yours was the second e-mail I received
saying it was not a real coin... If you could help me out...is this a
modern day counterfeit?  Did the store in the keys just manufacture
it?"

Pretty good. We got two down in a day!

Stan

From another big 1715 fleet coin hoard (since we are talking that subject in another thread)....
http://cgi.ebay.com/8-REALES-1715-F...LDOZIER-HOARD_W0QQitemZ200417644347

Some castles for Big C to puzzle over....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1673-Bolivia-2-...ob-Charles-II_W0QQitemZ250547560869

Double struck 1653E. Typical of a Capitana coin, but this looks like a land find....
http://cgi.ebay.com/EIGHT-REALES-CO...-BOLIVIA-1653_W0QQitemZ170419524949

Nice coin. Guess the year....
http://cgi.ebay.com/EIGHT-REALES-CO...OTOSI-BOLIVIA_W0QQitemZ170419523805

Stan

Those 8 reale coins keep getting smaller and smaller....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1746-Spanish-Si...2k-Gold-Chain_W0QQitemZ260523843308

This isn't Atocha style, even if it wasn't a copy....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Atocha-Style-Co...14kt-YG-Frame_W0QQitemZ110470073793

Stan

Fake alert....

http://cgi.ebay.com/1657-Mexico-Spa...ales-Cob-Coin_W0QQitemZ270503113297

http://www.sedwickcoins.com/fake_cobs.htm
(See #FC53634, about halfway down)

China seller might also be a clue....
Stan

Fake alert....

http://cgi.ebay.com/1657-Mexico-Spa...ales-Cob-Coin_W0QQitemZ270503113297

http://www.sedwickcoins.com/fake_cobs.htm
(See #FC53634, about halfway down)

China seller might also be a clue....
Stan

Sold for $99.

Some castles for Big C to puzzle over....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1673-Bolivia-2-...ob-Charles-II_W0QQitemZ250547560869

Stan

There are no bids on this cob. It this one of those unusual Potosi's? Waves look good. Nice worn edges.

I copied and Pasted this list from eBay .

By a royal statute decreed during the reign of King Charles I of Spain, the official weights of silver reales were--alas, many coins never came close to these official numbers.

8 reales (cob) = 27.3 grams [0.96 ounces]
4 reales (cob) = 13.65 grams [0.48 ounces]
2 reales (cob) = 6.82 grams [0.24 ounces]
1 real (cob) = 3.41 grams [0.12 ounces]
½ real (cob) = 1.71 grams [0.06 ounces]

Bubble in planchet....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1715-Mexico-Pla...lver-Cob-Coin_W0QQitemZ140370304685

Klippe copy pendant....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Reale-or-Cobb-C...oop-for-Chain_W0QQitemZ330390067954

This would be a real one....
http://cgi.ebay.com/MEXICO-KLIPPE-8...S-VERY-CHOICE_W0QQitemZ320466462163

Is this a fake arrowhead or a fake cob? Big C, is this strike (imprint) in the database?....
http://cgi.ebay.com/MEXICO-8-REALES...LVER-26-4-Grs_W0QQitemZ110474187140

Madrid mint 4 reale....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1651-Spain-Phil...es-Cob-Madrid_W0QQitemZ150400479427

I put this one out as a challenge. Too lazy to research mint and approximate year right now. I think I see a "S"....Seville?....Santa Fe de Bogata?....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Spanish-America...reales-27-4gm_W0QQitemZ350297684576

Partial date? I must be getting blind....
http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Mel-Fisher...-PARTIAL-DATE_W0QQitemZ370309989890

Good hard lick, too bad planchet wasn't flatter....
http://cgi.ebay.com/BOLIVIA-2-REALES-COB-1746_W0QQitemZ350295525649

Nice quality for a Maravillas coin. Not that great a cert though....I would try to get Bob Marx to sign a better one....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1654-Boliva-8-R...-Grade-12-COA_W0QQitemZ350295448156

Also known as the Lucayan Beach wreck....
http://cgi.ebay.com/SPANISH-FOUR-RE...28-SHIP-WRECK_W0QQitemZ320465297909

There are many more odd things about this coin other than the shape....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ATOCHA-Sunken-T...-COIN-PENDANT_W0QQitemZ360219132305

Must have used the "6" to align his hole punch....
http://cgi.ebay.com/BOLIVIA-SPANISH...ALES-COB-COIN_W0QQitemZ350293855238

I think this is a very interesting coin....
http://cgi.ebay.com/COB-GUATEMALA-C...8-REALES-1750_W0QQitemZ380186624869

Hopefully it looks better in person....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1-4-Reale-Coin-...ing-Authentic_W0QQitemZ270480801787

Compare with who's prices?....
http://cgi.ebay.com/POTISI-BOLIVIA-...DE-ONE-20-OFF_W0QQitemZ260420003727

Ignore the price, way too high, but I like the character....
http://cgi.ebay.com/POTOSI-COB-2-RE...-F-XF-2-DATES_W0QQitemZ310106354767


Stan

Why I don't collect Italian coins....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Savoia-Scudo-Bi...-savoy-france_W0QQitemZ300380066844

Somebody is really going to get ripped off here....look at the price....
http://cgi.ebay.com/MEXICO-8-REALES...LVER-26-4-Grs_W0QQitemZ110474187140
Why not just buy this one....
http://cgi.ebay.com/MEXICO-8-REALES...LVER-26-grams_W0QQitemZ170425798495

Atocha coin dated 1998....
http://cgi.ebay.com/MD486-CUBA-SPAI...GRIA-8-REALES_W0QQitemZ170425716052

Tres reales?....
http://cgi.ebay.com/MD485-CUBA-SPAI...A-TRES-REALES_W0QQitemZ170425715894

Must need an emerald to detract focus on this worn coin....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Early-Atocha-Si...d-14K-Pendant_W0QQitemZ250555206842

Chest 4285....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ATOCHA-8-REALE-...OM-CHEST-4285_W0QQitemZ350298598813

Off center strike, Capitana. You seldom see that outer circle of dots....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Capitana-Sunken...-1652-E-w-COA_W0QQitemZ350298591324

Three clear dates? I see two....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Potosi-Bolivia-...3-Clear-Dates_W0QQitemZ350298571019

Stan

Thank you Stan for posting your Ebay Picks. All the best for 2010
Cheers, Sam

UPDATE ON FAKES:

http://cgi.ebay.com/MEXICO-8-REALES...LVER-26-4-Grs_W0QQitemZ110474187140
"Dear *divewrecks*, ok. thank you very much, by your information!!! regards and happy new year! -coins1973"

I guess he is going to have a happy new year with the $355 he made off that fake!....

********************************************************************

http://cgi.ebay.com/MEXICO-8-REALES...LVER-26-grams_W0QQitemZ170425798495

"Dear *divewrecks*, Hi, I read your question. I just want to say that I am no coin expert. I dont know much about this coin other than it was given to me while traveling. Thats why im selling this as silver bullion. -salgarcia91744"

********************************************************************

Note: This is the same Mexican seller using different Ebay names. The text and font used in the ads is identical. What a scam. Please help me by reporting these items to Ebay. Click on the "report item" flag on the page describing each item. Thx

I went ahead and reported this item to ebay. I doubt they really care, but if enough of us do maybe we can stop this crap from being circulated on there.

HF8, the more complaints the better. THX! I traded a few more emails with the seller and think I got a little rise out of him, but I'm sure some is lost in the translation. If anyone knows fluent Spanish and has some inspiration perhaps they could contact one or both (the same) of the sellers bellow....

Stan


"Dear *divewrecks*, I BELIEVE THAT YOU THIS CONFUSING TO ME, WATCH MY REPUTATION, ARE TO THE 100%; I SO BUY THIS CURRENCY LIKE GOOD AND THE OFRECI, BUT I DO NOT HAVE MUCH EXPERIENCE IN THIS, BUT YOU INDICATE YOURSELF, IN THE PREVIOUS MAIL, THAT IS FALSE, I ALREADY I AM FIXING THIS SITUATION WITH MY BUYER, BUT YOU THIS ACCUSING TO ME OF SOMETHING, ME THE TENDRA THAT TO VERIFY, SO THAT ALSO HERE IN MEXICO LIKE ALSO IN EBAY GASTIGA THE FALSE TESTIMONY, OK; AND THE PIECES THAT SEEM TO ME THAT THEY ARE FALSE I PUT A NOTE TO THEM IN THE DESCRIPTION OF THE SAME! -coins1973"


"Dear *divewrecks*, LIKE IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO BE SO SAFE, THAT I AM THAT ONE SALESMAN WHO HIM VENDIO THAT PIECE, THIS YOU IN A GREAT ERROR, I HOPE THAT IN SOME TIME OF ACCOUNT OF THIS DEFAMATION, BUT IT DOES NOT MATTER. MY BETTER DESIRES FOR THIS 2010 -coins1973"

Quiz - What's the most obvious screw-up on the pillar side of this coin?....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ORO-GOLD-2-ESCU...9-VERY-SCARCE_W0QQitemZ350300720352

What a crummy replica....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ESTATE-SOLID-24...Coin-Necklace_W0QQitemZ140370777322

Stan

Roman imperial culture at it's best, I guess....lol

I'm really becoming a pain in ebays a$$. I'm reporting any and all fakes that I find. I figure if enough of us keep it up they'll listen.

HF8, the more complaints the better. THX! I traded a few more emails with the seller and think I got a little rise out of him, but I'm sure some is lost in the translation. If anyone knows fluent Spanish and has some inspiration perhaps they could contact one or both (the same) of the sellers bellow....

Stan


"Dear *divewrecks*, I BELIEVE THAT YOU THIS CONFUSING TO ME, WATCH MY REPUTATION, ARE TO THE 100%; I SO BUY THIS CURRENCY LIKE GOOD AND THE OFRECI, BUT I DO NOT HAVE MUCH EXPERIENCE IN THIS, BUT YOU INDICATE YOURSELF, IN THE PREVIOUS MAIL, THAT IS FALSE, I ALREADY I AM FIXING THIS SITUATION WITH MY BUYER, BUT YOU THIS ACCUSING TO ME OF SOMETHING, ME THE TENDRA THAT TO VERIFY, SO THAT ALSO HERE IN MEXICO LIKE ALSO IN EBAY GASTIGA THE FALSE TESTIMONY, OK; AND THE PIECES THAT SEEM TO ME THAT THEY ARE FALSE I PUT A NOTE TO THEM IN THE DESCRIPTION OF THE SAME! -coins1973"


"Dear *divewrecks*, LIKE IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO BE SO SAFE, THAT I AM THAT ONE SALESMAN WHO HIM VENDIO THAT PIECE, THIS YOU IN A GREAT ERROR, I HOPE THAT IN SOME TIME OF ACCOUNT OF THIS DEFAMATION, BUT IT DOES NOT MATTER. MY BETTER DESIRES FOR THIS 2010 -coins1973"

Stan... His English is much better in his listings.

"Hard to find tenth troy ounce .999 silver round made by A.U. Minting.  The obverse features the Indian Head design, and the reverse features a torch design.  Limited quantity."

"I ran into this while traveling and finaly deciced to sell it. This is authentic mexican silver bullion. I am no coin expert nor do I iknow its real value."

[Hanging for 8 wrote:]

Stan... His English is much better in his listings.

Seems to be! I can't say much though. His English is better than my Spanish!


Hanging for 8 wrote: "I'm really becoming a pain in ebays a$$. I'm reporting any all fakes that I find. I figure if enough of us keep it up they'll listen"

It only takes a few clicks as you know. I'll be interested what the guy with the 2 Escudo coin says about the "PAV" instead of the "PVA" inscription....Whoops!

Stan

 Stan
 I enjoy your picks. Always informative stuff.
Richard

Is this a fake arrowhead or a fake cob? Big C, is this strike (imprint) in the database?....
http://cgi.ebay.com/MEXICO-8-REALES...LVER-26-4-Grs_W0QQitemZ110474187140

Stan

You sure can pick them Stan. Yes it appears to be cut from this Mexican fake/ fantasy/replica piece or made from the same die. It has been on eBay before but I would have to search for the seller.

Stan its the same coin you spotted as fake back in reply 107. Its always coming out of Mexico. Just different wear spots.

Some new ones out of Guatemala for the database....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1776-Spanish-Si...-Eight-Reales_W0QQitemZ370315974911
http://cgi.ebay.com/1773-Spanish-Si...-Eight-Reales_W0QQitemZ140372031505
If you like them be sure to write the seller....

Pillar dollar looks fake...."0" seller feedback rating....
http://cgi.ebay.com/8-Reales-silver...atemala-1700s_W0QQitemZ270510612154

Stan

Some new ones out of Guatemala for the database....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1776-Spanish-Si...-Eight-Reales_W0QQitemZ370315974911
http://cgi.ebay.com/1773-Spanish-Si...-Eight-Reales_W0QQitemZ140372031505
If you like them be sure to write the seller....

Here is what we like to hear! I'll give him the benefit of a doubt. Hopefully he will follow through. Keep up the good work to all of those of you who write the seller and/or Ebay on these....
Stan

"Dear *divewrecks*, Hi, Thank you for your imput on this coin and the other one. I'm going think about what to do now pull or revise. I thought these would likely authentic because of the area and the large # of coins struck here. Appreciate your expertise. Jeff  -exoticimports007"

Repaired (or at least attempted) in at least two places....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-1658-Boliv...n-Good-Detail_W0QQitemZ270510413609

This coin would be really nice in a jewelry (necklace) setting. I have bought from this Austrian seller before and they are trustworthy....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1665-Mexico-Spa...ales-Cob-Coin_W0QQitemZ110478230787

Stan

Looks like this little "tab" was hammered out just for the piercing....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lima-Peru-cob-4...-silver-holed_W0QQitemZ150403898994

Stan

Yea it suredoes.... great eye Stan.

I'll help him out: 1689, Potosi mint, assayer VR (Pedro de Villar), minted under Phillip IV....
http://cgi.ebay.com/8-Reales-looks-...ivia-1680-90s_W0QQitemZ200426440800

Big C, do we have this one in the database?....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1737-8-REALE-SI...NDANT-REPLICA_W0QQitemZ360224287148

Love those late model Potosi chunks. This one near the end of cob production (1773)....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lucernae-Carlos...b-coin-Potosi_W0QQitemZ350302255434

Look at the thick area of the rim where the flan hung out beyone the edge of the die....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lucernae-Philip...b-coin-Potosi_W0QQitemZ350302247206

Early (1577-1586) Potosi, assayer B, 4 reale. Nice crisp strike. I'll bet this one goes up over $300, perhaps over $400....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lucernae-Philip...b-coin-Potosi_W0QQitemZ350302243449

Smoothed out a lot from circulation, but good visible date. Fully dated Guatemala coins are fairly rare....
http://cgi.ebay.com/PIRATES-TREASUR...ROM-GUATEMALA_W0QQitemZ110478622050

Silver copy of a gold coin....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ATOCHA-1622-COB...-fisher-C-O-A_W0QQitemZ320471962219

Stan

Here ya go Big C....Obvious fantasy piece, but one I don't think I have seen before....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-Silver-8-Re...Spainish-1725_W0QQitemZ330394303093

and another with some creative aging....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-Silver-8-Re...Coin-Spainish_W0QQitemZ330394302386

Stan

21.8 grams? Probably a good indicator something is wrong....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1712-Spanish-Go...in-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ170429613108

Stan

Didn't the Atocha sink in 1622?

Didn't the Atocha sink in 1622?

Yup, good point! 

Stan

You would think they'd put a little research into such frauds... lol

Damn those time traveling Spaniards

Why would they use Atocha silver for a coin design that had been discontinued for 50 years?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ATOCHA-JEWELRY-...-1621-CAR-JOH_W0QQitemZ200427655078

Very suspicious....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pirate-Shipwrec...eales-Pendant_W0QQitemZ270514477929

Holed and restored - at least they fessed up....
http://cgi.ebay.com/8-Reales-Cob-Gu...arked-km-77-2_W0QQitemZ260537011249

Stan

I was hoping nobody would see this one. The opening bid was set at I think $579, with a buy-it-now of $850. Well, someone else recognized the rarity and got it. See Menzel's book, top left of page 279. Potosi 16Z1T with transposed castles and lions. It is nicer (and rarer) than the 1618 dated Grade 1 Atocha I bought several years ago for around $850, which I considerd a bargain.

Oh well, maybe someone else here got it. I was going to pass the lead on to Ossy to get him back to posting on this forum....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...155423&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Stan

Sorry Stan I missed it I've lost a bit of interest after buying the 1652, I occasionally look, but I keep looking for the rare ones.
I keep dreaming of finding my own, maybe one day.
Cheers, Sam

Looks fake....
http://cgi.ebay.com/MD866-BOLIVIA-C...-1693-VR-POTO_W0QQitemZ400097551675

Stan

Cool old world cob....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1595-SPAIN-GRAN...LIPPVS-II-COB_W0QQitemZ250563159077

Stan

Sorry Stan I missed it I've lost a bit of interest after buying the 1652, I occasionally look, but I keep looking for the rare ones.
I keep dreaming of finding my own, maybe one day.
Cheers, Sam

OK Sam. Here is a pretty rare one I think. See Menzel's book page 244, bottom left, Type 1c....
http://cgi.ebay.com/EXCEPTIONAL-c15...-8-REALES-COB_W0QQitemZ140374800968

Stan

Research challenge....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Silver-Piece-of...as-Atocha-COA_W0QQitemZ180457427775

Stan

The coin has been stored in a climate-controlled smoke free environment....Like he really knows the habits of the past owners of this coin....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1697-4-REALES-s...DefaultDomain_0?hash=item33595b7121

Looks like these were obtained before the Fishers started using a coin tumbler and 80 grit sand to clean coins....Cool 4 reale....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Two-Atocha-Lima...er-Coins-Rare_W0QQitemZ180458364958

Now, for comparison, here is one polished to a chrome-like finish for sale in Key West....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ATOCHA-COIN-REC...P-WRECK-W-COA_W0QQitemZ130359791722

Its bad when you have to say your Atocha coin is "hand polished" (as opposed to mechanically polished)....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Super-Rare-4-Re...hand-polished_W0QQitemZ170433660060

Probably NOT from the 1715 fleet. That was 60 years later....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1715-Fleet-Span...e-Coin-Reales_W0QQitemZ180458351497

Nice dated Guatemala with countermark....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1752-GUATEMALA-...B-COUTNERMARK_W0QQitemZ330396502751

Stan

[the cobs forum]

HECHA CON PLATA Replica....
http://cgi.ebay.com/MD486-CUBA-SPAI...N-PLATA-AGRIA_W0QQitemZ400098483818

Interesting ring. Why is it most likely a 1736?....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Spanish-Shipwre...-in-Gold-Ring_W0QQitemZ160396667671

"This is not a replica like other listings on eBay the cobs forum right now"....
Thttp://cgi.ebay.com/Nuestra-Senora-de-Atocha-Spanish-Shipwreck-Coin-8-Reale_W0QQitemZ150406951638

Accidental heart shape....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1697-4-REALES-s...otosi-Bolivia_W0QQitemZ220542497057

Stan

HECHA CON PLATA Replica....
http://cgi.ebay.com/MD486-CUBA-SPAI...N-PLATA-AGRIA_W0QQitemZ400098483818

I believe I have seen this replica being sold as real.

...."coral embedded on the cross never seen one like"....Yeah, a rare one to slip by the Fisher scrub & polish.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/AUTHENTIC-ATOCH...E-ONE-8-REALE_W0QQitemZ280454256006

Current bid is 1 penny....
http://cgi.ebay.com/PIRATE-TREASURE...B-MEXICO-CITY_W0QQitemZ390145549274

Must have been anxious to pry the cluster apart....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ATOCHA-TREASURE...EL-FISHER-COA_W0QQitemZ390145690603

Don will like this one if he sees it....Looks like another on the bottom right of page 312 of Menzel's book though....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Potosi-4-Reales_W0QQitemZ160396836186

Stan

A "dubloon" would be gold. If the coin is/was real this would be a heck of a buy!
http://cgi.ebay.com/John-Kelly-Atoc...ubloon-Framed_W0QQitemZ140359134086

Stan

A "dubloon" would be gold. If the coin is/was real this would be a heck of a buy!
http://cgi.ebay.com/John-Kelly-Atoc...ubloon-Framed_W0QQitemZ140359134086

Stan

It's tedious to read through some of the descriptions as they can be quite long.  But on the last line of the description is the disclaimer:  "This RARE PRINT EDITION COMES WITH A REPLICA MINTED DOUBLOON LIKE ONES FROM THE SALVAGE!".

It's tedious to read through some of the descriptions as they can be quite long.  But on the last line of the description is the disclaimer:  "This RARE PRINT EDITION COMES WITH A REPLICA MINTED DOUBLOON LIKE ONES FROM THE SALVAGE!".

Thanks for the gentle wording.... "It's tedious" should say "pay attention dummy"....

Stan

Not Atocha, but with the "J" assayer it is probably 1715 fleet. Looks like it was in contact with iron from the rust tinted areas. This is good, because it provides extra protection from corrosion. The iron acts as a "sacrificial anode"....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/C1700-MEXICO-...LES-COB-MONEY_W0QQitemZ150406880949

I like this coin. Corrosion has likely put it seriously underweight, but most coins I see from the Maravillas have all detail eaten away....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1654-Boliva-8-R...-Grade-12-COA_W0QQitemZ350308805240

One recovered from Sam's favorite treasure hunting group, Odyssey Marine Exploration....
http://cgi.ebay.com/4-Reales-Sao-Jo...-presentation_W0QQitemZ350308826190

Not a cob, this is a "milled portrait" or "bust" type coin....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1788-Silver-coi...-cob-colonial_W0QQitemZ170436578384

Broad planchet "wrist watch" shape....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mexico-8-Reales_W0QQitemZ16039780451

Stan

It's tedious to read through some of the descriptions as they can be quite long.  But on the last line of the description is the disclaimer:  "This RARE PRINT EDITION COMES WITH A REPLICA MINTED DOUBLOON LIKE ONES FROM THE SALVAGE!".

Thanks for the gentle wording.... "It's tedious" should say "pay attention dummy"....

Stan

Stan, it wasn't directed at you.  Some sellers will bloat their description in the hope that a buyer will become bored and just bid.  The disclaimer isn't at the top for a reason.  I find the practice unscrupulous. 

Ovbious fakes. Report to Ebay and send fan mail....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1690-8-reales-M...26-8-gram-cob_W0QQitemZ170437514844
This guy has got to be stopped. Remember this one he passed off recently on some unsuspecting buyer....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170425798495


This one is alsmost certainly fake too since many 1733 fleet fantasy klippes exist....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-1733-Mexic...e-Silver-Coin_W0QQitemZ360229363810

Stan

Ovbious fakes. Report to Ebay and send fan mail....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1690-8-reales-M...26-8-gram-cob_W0QQitemZ170437514844
This guy has got to be stopped. Remember this one he passed off recently on some unsuspecting buyer....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170425798495

Here is this guy's reply. Feel free to contact him through his auction....

Hi Stan. This shouldnt be a replica, I purchased this at a coin convention
in Los Angeles as a silver reales coin and not a replica. I dont make
replicas, I wouldnt know how. -salgarcia91744

Ovbious fakes. Report to Ebay and send fan mail....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1690-8-reales-M...26-8-gram-cob_W0QQitemZ170437514844
This guy has got to be stopped. Remember this one he passed off recently on some unsuspecting buyer....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170425798495

Here is this guy's reply. Feel free to contact him through his auction....

Hi Stan. This shouldnt be a replica, I purchased this at a coin convention
in Los Angeles as a silver reales coin and not a replica. I dont make
replicas, I wouldnt know how. -salgarcia91744

He may not make the replica, but he's mates in China do
I sent him an email, they don't even look like silver.
Sam

Reply from Salgarcia : " Please see TYPE, I'm selling this as bullion by the way, Thank you "  

Just for info, it is easy to report an auction for a fraudulent item on Ebay. For a cob you would click on "Report Item" on the right side of the page, then choose the drop down "Prohibited (Banned Items)", and then "Currency, Coins, Stamps, Coupons, etc." and finally "Fraudulently or Improperly Described Currency" and click the "Continue" button. Then enter a "Brief Description" and click the "Send Report" button. You will get an email auto response, but no one from Ebay will contact you. They will evaluate it and if there are sufficient grounds or enough complaints they will terminate the auction.

Stan

Kind of a cool little cob, even holed. Wonder where the $81.50 marked price came from?....
http://cgi.ebay.com/SPANISH-SILVER-...5-1700-CARLOS_W0QQitemZ250572726835

Where's the certificate?....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Atocha-8-Reale-...lid-14k-bezel_W0QQitemZ300392364960

Would like to have this auction catalog, but it costs more than the gold bars in it!....
http://cgi.ebay.com/TREASURE-AUCTIO...1622-GOLD-BAR_W0QQitemZ220549539568

Validation hole? Yeah, just cram a diamond in it....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Potosi-mint-sil...dant-14K-gold_W0QQitemZ280459220872

Trivia - identify the mint....
http://cgi.ebay.com/18TH-CENTURY-SP...ALE-RARE-B726_W0QQitemZ360230609698

Poor looking cast fantasy piece. To each his own though....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Atocha-Two-Reale-Cob-Pendant_W0QQitemZ310197572591

Another, proudly bearing the Atocha name....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Atocha-Eight-Reale-Pendant_W0QQitemZ160399597364

Exscuse me sir, can I borrow your pen?....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1965-PARKER-75-...NISH-TREASURE_W0QQitemZ370260879447

Stan

Very rare counterstamp, probably worth millions....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1778-Spanish-2-...-Opera-Troupe_W0QQitemZ270525306159

I love the pillar side of this coin. I put in the opening bid just to kill the "buy it  now" option. I want to see how the value plays out....
http://cgi.ebay.com/PIRATES-TREASUR...OTOSI-BOLIVIA_W0QQitemZ110489437923

Stan

Now this is what is what a real "clipped" cob looks like....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lucernae-Philip...r-Potosi-1744_W0QQitemZ290399537521

Looks later than Atocha....$425! for that mounting ring!....
http://cgi.ebay.com/17th-CENTURY-SP...ROM-SHIPWRECK_W0QQitemZ110490782628

Haunted cob? What a dumb attempt to sell a soldered mount fantasy coin....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Haunted-Cob-Pen...ngs-NORESERVE_W0QQitemZ230433498442

OK, if you are looking here is something worth bidding on if the price stays reasonable....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lucernae-Philip...cobb-Mexico-F_W0QQitemZ350313709563

Stan

What is this guy smoking?....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pieces-of-Eight_W0QQitemZ170444335144Q

Nice late Potosi lump. This coin would feel better in the hand than it looks....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Bolivia-Colonia...V-Charles-III_W0QQitemZ220554704242

Not a bad early Potosi 4 reale....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Bolivia-Colonia...osi-Assayer-A_W0QQitemZ320486712353

Stan

A couple from Potosi that I like sitting out there with "buy it now tags" priced just a little bit high. Nice coins....

1654E Potosi Maravillas coin....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1654-Boliva-8-R...gr-Graded-COA_W0QQitemZ350308805240

1684V Potosi 8 reale....
http://cgi.ebay.com/PERU-8-REAL-COB...-1684-1711-XF_W0QQitemZ330356954690

1680V Potosi 8 reale....
http://cgi.ebay.com/BOLIVIA-SPANISH...-8-REALES-COB_W0QQitemZ360226743037

1686VR Potosi 8 reale....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Association-Sun...eales-1686-VR_W0QQitemZ350298604392

1709Y Potosi 8 reale...
http://cgi.ebay.com/COB-POTOSI-BOLI...RADE-RARE-ERA_W0QQitemZ350314709064

1714 Potosi 8 reale....
http://cgi.ebay.com/COB-POTOSI-BOLI...RADE-COLONIAL_W0QQitemZ350314709582

Stan

Kind of a neat 1715 fleet coin. Earlier date than most fleet coins. Probably 1650's....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Beautiful-Authe...om-Ship-Wreck_W0QQitemZ110494015202

The dots above the "P" and "R" are confusing me. Not is the Menzel book, have to get another book from my library....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Bolivia-Phillip...-to-Very-Good_W0QQitemZ130366692021

This looks much better than those expensive "real" coins....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1622-ATOCHA-2-R...OIN-14K-BEZEL_W0QQitemZ310200404095

Could be a 1715 fleet coin, but "no returns accepted"....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Very-Appealing-...hipwreck-Coin_W0QQitemZ290401836603

I like this coin, even with the hole....Potosi piller & wave coins are my personal faves....
http://cgi.ebay.com/BOLIVIA-SPANISH...ALES-COB-COIN_W0QQitemZ360226743033

Stan

Who scratched that 8 under the date? Looks like a 2 reale coin, but weight is said to be 26.9g....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Bolivia-1726-Po...-8-Reales-Cob_W0QQitemZ290402388084

Something to store your cobs in....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Viceroy-of-Peru...e-Chest-1700s_W0QQitemZ350316503919

Stan

saw this on ebay not sure what the deal about it is
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1772-Mexico-...s_US_Individual?hash=item5886031bbe

says the fm is backwards worth six times what i want for it?

saw this on ebay not sure what the deal about it is
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1772-Mexico-...s_US_Individual?hash=item5886031bbe

says the fm is backwards worth six times what i want for it?

Yeah, it should say it is only worth 1/6th as much since it is plugged and it was done in such a crappy fashion! The cert is pretty funny too" "I hereby certify that I have studied photos...."   

Sran

Paging Big C....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Replica-1732-CO...Eight-Spanish_W0QQitemZ300398299791

I like this one....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Potosi-Bolivia-...III-Two-Dates_W0QQitemZ250582443244

This one would have really looked cool right after it was struck....
http://cgi.ebay.com/PERU-SPANISH-CO...ALES-COB-COIN_W0QQitemZ360236113197

This one has potential....
http://cgi.ebay.com/CIRC-1700s-MEXI...-REALES-KM-47_W0QQitemZ260554794634

Stan

hi
yea i though as much thanks dude

saw this on ebay not sure what the deal about it is
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1772-Mexico-...s_US_Individual?hash=item5886031bbe

says the fm is backwards worth six times what i want for it?

Yeah, it should say it is only worth 1/6th as much since it is plugged and it was done in such a crappy fashion! The cert is pretty funny too" "I hereby certify that I have studied photos...."   

Sran

Found "NOT TOO FAR FROM" the Atocha, "GRADE 1 PLUS ON THE ATOCHA GRADING SCALE" (that's not saying much), "CAN YOU IMAGINE THE SAME COIN THAT YOU WILL WEAR AROUND YOUR NECK , WAS ONCE IN THE HANDS OF A SWASH BUCKLING BUCCANEER" (gimme a break)....
http://cgi.ebay.com/AHOY-FOUND-NEAR...EASURE-L-K111_W0QQitemZ120532076265

For Big C....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Nice-Replica-CO...of-Eight-Coin_W0QQitemZ370336573446

....and another Big C. What the hell is this guy wearing white gloves for?....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ATOCHA-GOLD-CLA...Treasure-Coin_W0QQitemZ230437902689

....and one last repro....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Reale-or-Cob-Co...oop-for-Chain_W0QQitemZ330405039205

Nice square cob. Probably is a 1730 like the ones in the "cave hoard" thread....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rooswijk-Shipwreck-Coin_W0QQitemZ280465505658

Shameless plug for two shipwreck treasure magazine sales I am running now....
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Vintage-Treas...ecks-Treasure_W0QQitemZ130365442941
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Treasur...est-Magazines_W0QQitemZ130365446901

Stan

Found "NOT TOO FAR FROM" the Atocha, "GRADE 1 PLUS ON THE ATOCHA GRADING SCALE" (that's not saying much), "CAN YOU IMAGINE THE SAME COIN THAT YOU WILL WEAR AROUND YOUR NECK , WAS ONCE IN THE HANDS OF A SWASH BUCKLING BUCCANEER" (gimme a break)....
http://cgi.ebay.com/AHOY-FOUND-NEAR...EASURE-L-K111_W0QQitemZ120532076265

For Big C....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Nice-Replica-CO...of-Eight-Coin_W0QQitemZ370336573446

....and another Big C. What the hell is this guy wearing white gloves for?....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ATOCHA-GOLD-CLA...Treasure-Coin_W0QQitemZ230437902689

....and one last repro....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Reale-or-Cob-Co...oop-for-Chain_W0QQitemZ330405039205

Nice square cob. Probably is a 1730 like the ones in the "cave hoard" thread....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rooswijk-Shipwreck-Coin_W0QQitemZ280465505658

Shameless plug for two shipwreck treasure magazine sales I am running now....
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Vintage-Treas...ecks-Treasure_W0QQitemZ130365442941
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Treasur...est-Magazines_W0QQitemZ130365446901

Stan

hi again
so this is a klippe from the Rooswijk? hes also got a pillar dollar up for sale also from the same ship

Found "NOT TOO FAR FROM" the Atocha, "GRADE 1 PLUS ON THE ATOCHA GRADING SCALE" (that's not saying much), "CAN YOU IMAGINE THE SAME COIN THAT YOU WILL WEAR AROUND YOUR NECK , WAS ONCE IN THE HANDS OF A SWASH BUCKLING BUCCANEER" (gimme a break)....
http://cgi.ebay.com/AHOY-FOUND-NEAR...EASURE-L-K111_W0QQitemZ120532076265

For Big C....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Nice-Replica-CO...of-Eight-Coin_W0QQitemZ370336573446

....and another Big C. What the hell is this guy wearing white gloves for?....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ATOCHA-GOLD-CLA...Treasure-Coin_W0QQitemZ230437902689

....and one last repro....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Reale-or-Cob-Co...oop-for-Chain_W0QQitemZ330405039205

Nice square cob. Probably is a 1730 like the ones in the "cave hoard" thread....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rooswijk-Shipwreck-Coin_W0QQitemZ280465505658

Shameless plug for two shipwreck treasure magazine sales I am running now....
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Vintage-Treas...ecks-Treasure_W0QQitemZ130365442941
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Treasur...est-Magazines_W0QQitemZ130365446901

Stan

Thanks Stan. Ill copy these when I get a chance.

hi again
so this is a klippe from the Rooswijk? hes also got a pillar dollar up for sale also from the same ship

No, I think this one is hand struck. There were some beautiful Rooswjik klippe coins sold at a Pomterio auction a few years back though....

Stan