A Rare 16th Century Spoon Mold Find!

Took the day off and went MDing.Had found a new site and wanted to hit it.So I Did.Came up with some first for me.And some I don't even know what they are.All needs a better cleaning just done a quick soap and water deal.Here they are till I get them cleaned better.
                                                      Enjoy,
                                                                Timekiller!

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Never seen one of those! Maybe you can find the other half

HH
-GC

Never seen one of those! Maybe you can find the other half

HH
-GC

I know almost like a spoon mold is what it looks like!Very heavy made what ever it is!

wowsers, a spoon mold , that is so cool, nice find!

Can you say colonial?  

Nice hunt. Looks like some shoe buckles mixed in.  

Maybe a halfpenny?  

And a strap guide. 

Can you say colonial?  

Nice hunt. Looks like some shoe buckles mixed in.  

Maybe a halfpenny?  

And a strap guide. 

Thanks RPG, yea my first for that too.Not sure yet on half or farthing.

You for certain have a spoon mold there.  You need to find the other half. 

Over at Old Salem the tinsmiths make pewter spoons regularly using spoon molds just like that one.  The one you have may have been for pewter or silver.  The style of the spoon is very, very old.  Find the other one and you have one pricey artifact. 

If you did find the other half you could take it to Old Salem and ask them to cast a spoon from it for you, that would be cool!

You for certain have a spoon mold there.  You need to find the other half. 

Over at Old Salem the tinsmiths make pewter spoons regularly using spoon molds just like that one.  The one you have may have been for pewter or silver.  The style of the spoon is very, very old.  Find the other one and you have one pricey artifact. 

If you did find the other half you could take it to Old Salem and ask them to cast a spoon from it for you, that would be cool!

Thanks Carolina friend,I could only think that was what it was. Nothing like it found by me before. It was my only guess so thanks to you for your words on it.
                                                Timekiller!

that site is going to produce lots of goodies for you !!

After cleaning the coin a little more it is a 1753 Halfpenny!

[John 3:16]

GREAT relics, that spoon mold is an outstanding find.  From the handle type it looks to be quite an early one.  I like the lock escutcheon also. 

HH,
R.I.

Looks like a lot of very early treasure there timekiller  
That spoon mold is awesome.  

Here's a site with some great pics of molds and sample spoons - there is one described as a 17th Century table spoon, which has a similar shape to yours.
http://www.olddominionforge.com/pewter.html

Now find that the other half  

Mike

GREAT relics, that spoon mold is an outstanding find.  From the handle type it looks to be quite an early one.  I like the lock escutcheon also. 

HH,
R.I.

Thanks much there Rusted Iron for your comment,Yes I also liked the lock piece too! Those colonial guy's done some neat work with there metals.
                                              Timekiller!

Nice finds...the big old copper is sweet.

Looks like a lot of very early treasure there timekiller  
That spoon mold is awesome.  

Here's a site with some great pics of molds and sample spoons - there is one described as a 17th Century table spoon, which has a similar shape to yours.
http://www.olddominionforge.com/pewter.html

Now find that the other half  

Mike

Thanks Mike,Neat site you found there.If that other piece is there it don't stand a chance!
                                     Reguards,TK

oh ya nice spot ya got there. spoon mold is the first thing i thought. never saw one before. and ya know its old if your pulling george 2 out of there. great hunt.  willy

Great Hunt ! Like that forked buckle  It's a Beauty

     Very cool relic!  First I have ever seen found.

    ..and of course I always like the George coppers and the knee buckle is great.

     I bet the best is yet to come!

nice finds indeed.  What is that leaf looking thing? I love the spoon mold.

Wow! What a great hunt. I'll be keeping an eye out for your future posts from this site!

     Very cool relic!  First I have ever seen found.

    ..and of course I always like the George coppers and the knee buckle is great.

     I bet the best is yet to come!

Morning to ya Sir Patch! Yea my fisrt ever seen period. Nice virgin site this time I know for sure.It has been in are family for quite awhile.And has just started being cleared for horse pen.At least a couple acers of some good hunting ground here.Had got word that they were finding some large stone scatterd all over this place and I thought hummmmm.So yesterday I went to give it a shot and yea it is the right type of stuff to make these types of finds from for sure.Very large area so will take sometime to get over it all.My dad had found some coins not far from this site 1715 2 skillings and a couple of british coins so I knew they had been some activey in the area.Both being on the edge of a creek and all.Anyway will see in the future what comes from here just a long drive for me to get there.
                                                 Timekiller!

Awesome site! I can only imagine whats left.

nice finds indeed.  What is that leaf looking thing? I love the spoon mold.

Hey taropatch,I'm not sure what you are asking about?What pic. is it in might would help me? Thanks for looking! I guess i have my work cut out on finding the other piece to the spoon mold. But hey I like a good challenge!
                                                      Thanks Timekiller!

That is one nice relic... never seen one found before...the other finds are too shabby either... WTG

It is nice to see you on a new virgin site, Pete!   She will be a dandy for months to come! 

Keep at it, you Colonial king!   I see more KG coppers in your near future!

Kyle

It is nice to see you on a new virgin site, Pete!   She will be a dandy for months to come! 

Keep at it, you Colonial king!   I see more KG coppers in your near future!

Kyle

Thanks KylePa, just tring to keep up with the Jones's in the colonial detecting world buddy! You three being part of the above statement!
                                                      Timekiller!

It is nice to see you on a new virgin site, Pete!   She will be a dandy for months to come! 

Keep at it, you Colonial king!   I see more KG coppers in your near future!

Kyle

Thanks KylePa, just tring to keep up with the Jones's in the colonial detecting world buddy! You three being part of the above statement!
                                                      Timekiller!

Thanks, Pete.   We try hard to please the forum with our recoveries.

We will be hunting two new sites this weekend.  One of them was hunted before and the other was not.  We'll see how good the people were who hit the one.  I have research on a vanished dwelling on the property.  I wonder if they knew as well?  

It is nice to see you on a new virgin site, Pete!   She will be a dandy for months to come! 

Keep at it, you Colonial king!   I see more KG coppers in your near future!

Kyle

Thanks KylePa, just tring to keep up with the Jones's in the colonial detecting world buddy! You three being part of the above statement!
                                                      Timekiller!

Thanks, Pete.   We try hard to please the forum with our recoveries.

We will be hunting two new sites this weekend.  One of them was hunted before and the other was not.  We'll see how good the people were who hit the one.  I have research on a vanished dwelling on the property.  I wonder if they knew as well?  

I don't know about rather they knew or not but can say that it is hard to hunt a site completely clean even if they did.I guess it's possible but I hit stuff purdy hard and go back to only find that I myself have missed stuff soil conditions and many other factors involved in being able to say a place is cleaned up.You guy's will find stuff if there is something to find I'm sure.
                                                             Timekiller!

Nice job on the relics especially the possible spoon mold ... that 1/2 penny cleaned up pretty nice too ... cool bunch of finds ... congratz and continued good hunting ~ Jimmy

According to my research, both of the sites are capable of producing many coppers, Pete.  Even if they don't, I will still be satisfied with what we do find.  

timekiller, wonderful finds all, but the spoon mold in particular is outanding !!!!! It is one of the nicest, and no doubt rarest relics I've seen posted here in awhile. Not only is such a find very rare, but it is of a style of spoon which in itself is rare, should you ever be lucky enough to find one. That is the kind of relic I would love to see up here in lights!

timekiller, wonderful finds all, but the spoon mold in particular is outanding !!!!! It is one of the nicest, and no doubt rarest relics I've seen posted here in awhile. Not only is such a find very rare, but it is of a style of spoon which in itself is rare, should you ever be lucky enough to find one. That is the kind of relic I would love to see up here in lights!

Thanks jonnyi,for you kind comments! I didn't have a clue as the rarity of a find like it.Tnet is a good deal for info. I know you are good with Id's was wondering if you would know what type of metal it is made of very heavy,seems very hard also,and shows no sign of rust or anything.Would bronze be that hard?
                                         Thanks,
                                                    Timekiller!

Never seen one of those! Maybe you can find the other half

HH
-GC

I know almost like a spoon mold is what it looks like!Very heavy made what ever it is!

It is half of a spoon mold & a very cool find

Timekiller, your mold probably dates from the 17th century, and is most likely a bronze mold. Once again, extremely wonderful find!

Timekiller, your mold probably dates from the 17th century, and is most likely a bronze mold. Once again, extremely wonderful find!

I agree 17th C, Bronze & the metal poured into it would be Pewter.

Timekiller, your mold probably dates from the 17th century, and is most likely a bronze mold. Once again, extremely wonderful find!

Thanks much then jonnyi!
Wasn't sure never found a piece of bronze that big before!                                                               Timekiller!

Timekiller, your mold probably dates from the 17th century, and is most likely a bronze mold. Once again, extremely wonderful find!

I agree 17th C, Bronze & the metal poured into it would be Pewter.

Thanks to you too there Cru,your help is appreciated with the time line and all!
                                              Timekiller!

Timekiller, your mold probably dates from the 17th century, and is most likely a bronze mold. Once again, extremely wonderful find!

I agree 17th C, Bronze & the metal poured into it would be Pewter.

Thanks to you too there Cru,your help is appreciated with the time line and all!
                                              Timekiller!

I can tell you that the pewter spoon collectors, who are a keen bunch, because the spoons are rare in good condition would go nuts over this.  Its a museum piece IMHO.

If only you could get the other half, look carefully

Timekiller, your mold probably dates from the 17th century, and is most likely a bronze mold. Once again, extremely wonderful find!

I agree 17th C, Bronze & the metal poured into it would be Pewter.

Thanks to you too there Cru,your help is appreciated with the time line and all!
                                              Timekiller!

I can tell you that the pewter spoon collectors, who are a keen bunch, because the spoons are rare in good condition would go nuts over this.  Its a museum piece IMHO.

If only you could get the other half, look carefully

Thanks again Cru,I believe the other half can be found! I just done a broad search of the place yesterday to get a Idea!(your starting to make my head swell again )

Don't know if it's the same time frame but got to thinking about a spoon I found at another site few months back and at least 30 miles apart.

 

Heh Pete Cracking finds again....your on fire scroll down the page on this link there's one a bit like yours

http://www.olddominionforge.com/pewter.html

SS

Awesome finds, congrats !!! 

TommNJ

Heh Pete Cracking finds again....your on fire scroll down the page on this link there's one a bit like yours

http://www.olddominionforge.com/pewter.html

SS

Thanks there SS, missed that the first time I looked!  I guess if I'm not wearing headphones and it dosn't make a beep I'm no good!
                                                         Good To Hear From Yea Friend! 
                                                                                 Timekiller!

Heh Pete Cracking finds again....your on fire scroll down the page on this link there's one a bit like yours

http://www.olddominionforge.com/pewter.html

SS

Thanks there SS, missed that the first time I looked!  I guess if I'm not wearing headphones and it dosn't make a beep I'm no good!
                                                         Good To Hear From Yea Friend! 
                                                                                 Timekiller!

One being made on this one


http://www.gibsonpewter.com/blog/2009/03/23/new-colonial-midrib-spoon-casting-video/

SS

Heh Pete Cracking finds again....your on fire scroll down the page on this link there's one a bit like yours

http://www.olddominionforge.com/pewter.html

SS

Thanks there SS, missed that the first time I looked!   I guess if I'm not wearing headphones and it dosn't make a beep I'm no good!
                                                         Good To Hear From Yea Friend!  
                                                                                 Timekiller!

One being made on this one


http://www.gibsonpewter.com/blog/2009/03/23/new-colonial-midrib-spoon-casting-video/

SS

Neat stuff SS,I liked that now. Simple yet efficient!

Pete, Pete, Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!   That cleaned up spoon mold is fricking amazing!!!   I have to vote this for banner!  It deserves it!

Pete,

You never disappoint, my good Colonial friend! Out of all the Banner finds lately, this one should be up top as well. I have never seen one found. A rare find indeed, my friend!

The King George copper is a dandy!

Kirk

Pete, Pete, Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!   That cleaned up spoon mold is fricking amazing!!!   I have to vote this for banner!  It deserves it!

totally agreed

Pete, Pete, Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!   That cleaned up spoon mold is fricking amazing!!!   I have to vote this for banner!  It deserves it!

Woooooooo! Control that colonial animal!

Pete,

You never disappoint, my good Colonial friend! Out of all the Banner finds lately, this one should be up top as well. I have never seen one found. A rare find indeed, my friend!

The King George copper is a dandy!

Kirk

Thanks buddy, I think your brother is losing it By the way that scratch wasn't done by me already on it.

What a hunt! Lots of colonial items. I love the shoe buckles and that spoon mold! That's gotta be rare find and a very important piece of American history. WTG! Banner!!!
Enjoyed your post, thanks.
Dave.

What a hunt! Lots of colonial items. I love the shoe buckles and that spoon mold! That's gotta be rare find and a very important piece of American history. WTG!
Enjoyed your post, thanks.
Dave.

Agreed, although it was very likely one of the first items carried over by who ever settled that area.  The acorn top is a popular European design.

cool

What a hunt! Lots of colonial items. I love the shoe buckles and that spoon mold! That's gotta be rare find and a very important piece of American history. WTG!
Enjoyed your post, thanks.
Dave.

Agreed, although it was very likely one of the first items carried over by who ever settled that area.  The acorn top is a popular European design.

Big help again Cru,Love feeding on your info. Nice to have someone over there to help with these finds.

Pete, Pete, Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!   That cleaned up spoon mold is fricking amazing!!!   I have to vote this for banner!  It deserves it!

Woooooooo! Control that colonial animal!

I'm trying to control, Pete.   Finds like that are what keeps me seeking for more and more and more Colonial relics.

Pete, Pete, Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!   That cleaned up spoon mold is fricking amazing!!!   I have to vote this for banner!  It deserves it!

Woooooooo! Control that colonial animal!

I'm trying to control, Pete.   Finds like that are what keeps me seeking for more and more and more Colonial relics.

Gotcha buddy,I'm just messing with yea. I know you guy's love the colonial animal and when you have a passion for something that hard you can't fail.
                                                                 Pete!

http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/C/cutlery.htm

At the bottom of the link you can see a similar type (brass, but could be Pewter) style spoon.
'Stuart, around 1650. A brass spoon with a seal top end and fleur de lys stamped on the bowl. '

Notice the similar top (not Acorn I know), & the wide bowl.

WOW WHAT A PIECE OF HISTORY!!!!Great finds timekiller,,,Love that kind of stuff


thanks for sharin


arthur

A spoon mold wouldn't be something laying around the average house in the day.

You may have the  site of a tinsmith or silversmith shop.  If you do it is going to be one wild metal detecting site.

Banner in my opinion. That is a GREAT historical find.   

Outstanding!

That is amazing...a spoon mold.

A spoon mold wouldn't be something laying around the average house in the day.

You may have the  site of a tinsmith or silversmith shop.  If you do it is going to be one wild metal detecting site.

Thanks Curious The George,Had took a break for a few and just came back to see all the hits on this wanted to thank you again on the IDing of this spoon mold.Amazing again on the replies from it not the norm I take it!
                                           Have a Good One And HH,

Banner in my opinion. That is a GREAT historical find.   

Thanks baspinall,
                                Timekiller!

Great finds - Great new site....
Love your George II and the design on that key-hole
Keep em coming!

Outstanding!

Thanks there Mr.Mod. (wreckdiver1715) you guy's have a great forum here with lots of people that are willing to help someone.  I think the forum has become very well known over the internet.A great community of treasure hunters here on this forum.Thanks for your work in it and to all that makes it possible.
                          Timekiller!

Great finds - Great new site....
Love your George II and the design on that key-hole
Keep em coming!

Thanks DavidBeard,yea that was my first for one of those I see them on here alot but had not found one myself.Other coins from that period but not one of them.Anyways Thanks And HH, 
                                              Timekiller!

The old copper is nice

I'm just posting again because this is probably the rarest and most interesting find of the year, yet it has been sinking to the bottom much too quickly without more people getting a chance to see it!

This mold may be far older than originally guessed. In fact it is likely that it may go back to the early 1500's.

The spoons themselves from this period are terribly rare, valued at a thousand or more.  Such spoons were of the few articles of value owned by the very first people to set foot on our land. A mold like this is far far rarer than the spoon it made, and is an iconic relic deserving of the finest museum. (the Mercer Museum does not even have a mold that approaches this one's date or rarity)

Here is a link to one of the spoons a mold such as this manufactured.  It will be wonderful to finally see such a major rarity up there on banner, and it will be a proud moment for Treasurenet as well!

http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=4894507

Whoa!  Nice post Johnny.  In the right hands a spoon from this mold just may be identified and if the spoon has a makers mark then the original owner and time period pinned down.

Now that is dreaming but possible.

I sure hope the other half of the mold can be found.

Whoa!  Nice post Johnny.  In the right hands a spoon from this mold just may be identified and if the spoon has a makers mark then the original owner and time period pinned down.

Now that is dreaming but possible.

I sure hope the other half of the mold can be found.

I agree it would be nice George, but it doesn't even matter with a rarity like this; a style which was from the 1500's (acorn ending at end of that century).  A Century before the witches were burned at Salem!  You're right in another respect; that this exact mold CAN be matched to existing spoons as it is, just by subtleties in the handle and exact measurements, but that requires museums knowing this mold exists!  http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=4894507

That spoon mold is AWESOME!!!!!  It's an incredible and unique find that deserves to be on the BANNER!  LOVE IT.  Congrats.... You've found yourself a great spot to hunt!

This is one facet of early life here that I had never thought about until now--how pewter spoons were made.  This was a great post to read.  That mold is a unique find.  I am nominating this for the Banner, because it certainly deserves it.  Now get out there and find the other half. 


 

I'm just posting again because this is probably the rarest and most interesting find of the year, yet it has been sinking to the bottom much too quickly without more people getting a chance to see it!

This mold may be far older than originally guessed. In fact it is likely that it may go back to the early 1500's.

The spoons themselves from this period are terribly rare, valued at a thousand or more.  Such spoons were of the few articles of value owned by the very first people to set foot on our land. A mold like this is far far rarer than the spoon it made, and is an iconic relic deserving of the finest museum. (the Mercer Museum does not even have a mold that approaches this one's date or rarity)

Here is a link to one of the spoons a mold such as this manufactured.  It will be wonderful to finally see such a major rarity up there on banner, and it will be a proud moment for Treasurenet as well!

http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=4894507

This, without a doubt, deserves to be up top.  I have never, during my four years on forums, seen a Colonial spoon mold posted before.   

Pete, it has been a pleasure viewing your Colonial recoveries this year.  I look forward to viewing many more this year and the next and the next year after that and the next year after that and until you decide to retire from the NC frontier Colonial diggings.

Kyle

Just getting to this this morning,George,Jonnyi, much thanks with your very useful help guy's truly  Pjroo33,Buckleboy,and KylePa guy's thanks to you as well I'm going back with in the next few days now to see with a little luck if I can find the other half you can believe that good lord willing Thanks guy's I don't believe myself how my finds this year are turning out just crazy in a way.But have put the grunt work in them so it does pay off I guess.Just sorry they are always so hard to figure out but guess that's a good thing in this hobby.(rare) And has it's own rush to it as it is learned from. Good Deal Guy's and Happy Hunting To YOU ALL!!!!!
                                     Timekiller!

Also for you guy's tring to figure this piece out.There are like notches in the mold piece I don't know if they are some kind of makers mark or what if need be I can take some more pics.Don't know how you guy's come up with the things you do with these finds I'd be here for ever tring to find something on them not very good in that field.One of many things this forum is good for a fact!   
                                         Timekiller!

great finds .love seeing the things people find,

Also for you guy's tring to figure this piece out.There are like notches in the mold piece I don't know if they are some kind of makers mark or what if need be I can take some more pics.Don't know how you guy's come up with the things you do with these finds I'd be here for ever tring to find something on them not very good in that field.One of many things this forum is good for a fact!    
                                         Timekiller!

The marker marks are on the missing piece (if it had one, none visable on that piece), go out & find it  Good work Jonnyi on the possible 16th Century date, needs further work to confirm this & I ruled it out based on likely hood & similar 17th C types.  However, if it is, it needs Museum expertise, probably British as well, as its likely too specialist. (I guess).  Look for the other half, if you get it, I can pass on some contacts.

I already voted banner.  Once again, if this doesn't make it nothing should.

Nice finds,

That spoon mold is awesome

HH Jer

Also for you guy's tring to figure this piece out.There are like notches in the mold piece I don't know if they are some kind of makers mark or what if need be I can take some more pics.Don't know how you guy's come up with the things you do with these finds I'd be here for ever tring to find something on them not very good in that field.One of many things this forum is good for a fact!    
                                         Timekiller!

The marker marks are on the missing piece (if it had one, none visable on that piece), go out & find it  Good work Jonnyi on the possible 16th Century date, needs further work to confirm this & I ruled it out based on likely hood & similar 17th C types.  However, if it is, it needs Museum expertise, probably British as well, as its likely too specialist. (I guess).  Look for the other half, if you get it, I can pass on some contacts.

I already voted banner.  Once again, if this doesn't make it nothing should.

Thank Cru, always big help too!

Agreed Crusader, "if this doesn't make it, nothing should"

Here is a little more on the "acorn spoon" which further confirms the 1500's date...

"The earlier English spoon-handles terminate in an acorn, plain knob or a diamond; at the end of the 16th century,"





http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Spoon

I think your probably right, I wish I still had my Pewter Spoon Contact, I will try & dig it out

  There you go again. One jaw-dropping, eye-popping, breath-taking, good gollly miss molly find after another. Congradulations!!!

Also for you guy's tring to figure this piece out.There are like notches in the mold piece I don't know if they are some kind of makers mark or what if need be I can take some more pics.Don't know how you guy's come up with the things you do with these finds I'd be here for ever tring to find something on them not very good in that field.One of many things this forum is good for a fact!   
                                         Timekiller!

The marker marks are on the missing piece (if it had one, none visable on that piece), go out & find it   Good work Jonnyi on the possible 16th Century date, needs further work to confirm this & I ruled it out based on likely hood & similar 17th C types.  However, if it is, it needs Museum expertise, probably British as well, as its likely too specialist. (I guess).  Look for the other half, if you get it, I can pass on some contacts.

I already voted banner.  Once again, if this doesn't make it nothing should.

  Ok, nothing should. 

Incredible recovery!!!  Needs to be on the banner!

    I'll be curious to see the update on this. Sure seems against the odds for a 16th century relic to be with mid. to late 18th century finds, but not impossible and very cool if it's the case.

    I vote banter... I mean banher...  I mean.... did you not see my token   gheesh. 

[earliest spoon mold ever found in the whole USA/Canada.]

Also for you guy's tring to figure this piece out.There are like notches in the mold piece I don't know if they are some kind of makers mark or what if need be I can take some more pics.Don't know how you guy's come up with the things you do with these finds I'd be here for ever tring to find something on them not very good in that field.One of many things this forum is good for a fact!    
                                         Timekiller!

The marker marks are on the missing piece (if it had one, none visable on that piece), go out & find it  Good work Jonnyi on the possible 16th Century date, needs further work to confirm this & I ruled it out based on likely hood & similar 17th C types.  However, if it is, it needs Museum expertise, probably British as well, as its likely too specialist. (I guess).  Look for the other half, if you get it, I can pass on some contacts.

I already voted banner.  Once again, if this doesn't make it nothing should.

  Ok, nothing should.  

Is that the IP seal of approval

Seriously, I'm going to stick my neck out & say this could very well be the earliest spoon mold ever found in the whole USA/Canada.  Historial doesn't come close to explaining the tales this one could tell.  NB.  Just becuase it might be 16th C doesn't mean that it didn't go out of fashion & then was purchased second hand (100 years old) & carried to the US as a good starting kit for the new settlers.

[earliest spoon mold ever found in the wjole USA/Canada.]

Also for you guy's tring to figure this piece out.There are like notches in the mold piece I don't know if they are some kind of makers mark or what if need be I can take some more pics.Don't know how you guy's come up with the things you do with these finds I'd be here for ever tring to find something on them not very good in that field.One of many things this forum is good for a fact!   
                                         Timekiller!

The marker marks are on the missing piece (if it had one, none visable on that piece), go out & find it   Good work Jonnyi on the possible 16th Century date, needs further work to confirm this & I ruled it out based on likely hood & similar 17th C types.  However, if it is, it needs Museum expertise, probably British as well, as its likely too specialist. (I guess).  Look for the other half, if you get it, I can pass on some contacts.

I already voted banner.  Once again, if this doesn't make it nothing should.

  Ok, nothing should. 

Is that the IP seal of approval

Seriously, I'm going to stick my neck out & say this could very well be the earliest spoon mold ever found in the wjole USA/Canada.  Historial doesn't come close to explaining the tales this one could tell.  NB.  Just becuase it might be 16th C doesn't mean that it didn't go out of fashion & then was purchased second hand (100 years old) & carried to the US as a good starting kit for the new settlers.

  Yes!  Definitely has my vote.  That sucker must have made one pile of spoons being around that long.

[earliest spoon mold ever found in the wjole USA/Canada.]

Also for you guy's tring to figure this piece out.There are like notches in the mold piece I don't know if they are some kind of makers mark or what if need be I can take some more pics.Don't know how you guy's come up with the things you do with these finds I'd be here for ever tring to find something on them not very good in that field.One of many things this forum is good for a fact!   
                                         Timekiller!

The marker marks are on the missing piece (if it had one, none visable on that piece), go out & find it   Good work Jonnyi on the possible 16th Century date, needs further work to confirm this & I ruled it out based on likely hood & similar 17th C types.  However, if it is, it needs Museum expertise, probably British as well, as its likely too specialist. (I guess).  Look for the other half, if you get it, I can pass on some contacts.

I already voted banner.  Once again, if this doesn't make it nothing should.

  Ok, nothing should. 

Is that the IP seal of approval

Seriously, I'm going to stick my neck out & say this could very well be the earliest spoon mold ever found in the wjole USA/Canada.  Historial doesn't come close to explaining the tales this one could tell.  NB.  Just becuase it might be 16th C doesn't mean that it didn't go out of fashion & then was purchased second hand (100 years old) & carried to the US as a good starting kit for the new settlers.

  Yes!  Definitely has my vote.  That sucker must have made one pile of spoons being around that long.

Exactly my thought, there maybe some in a Museum somewhere!  The experts thinking it was made in the UK!

[earliest spoon mold ever found in the wjole USA/Canada.]

Also for you guy's tring to figure this piece out.There are like notches in the mold piece I don't know if they are some kind of makers mark or what if need be I can take some more pics.Don't know how you guy's come up with the things you do with these finds I'd be here for ever tring to find something on them not very good in that field.One of many things this forum is good for a fact!   
                                         Timekiller!

The marker marks are on the missing piece (if it had one, none visable on that piece), go out & find it   Good work Jonnyi on the possible 16th Century date, needs further work to confirm this & I ruled it out based on likely hood & similar 17th C types.  However, if it is, it needs Museum expertise, probably British as well, as its likely too specialist. (I guess).  Look for the other half, if you get it, I can pass on some contacts.

I already voted banner.  Once again, if this doesn't make it nothing should.

  Ok, nothing should. 

Is that the IP seal of approval

Seriously, I'm going to stick my neck out & say this could very well be the earliest spoon mold ever found in the wjole USA/Canada.  Historial doesn't come close to explaining the tales this one could tell.  NB.  Just becuase it might be 16th C doesn't mean that it didn't go out of fashion & then was purchased second hand (100 years old) & carried to the US as a good starting kit for the new settlers.

  Yes!  Definitely has my vote.  That sucker must have made one pile of spoons being around that long.

Exactly my thought, there maybe some in a Museum somewhere!  The experts thinking it was made in the UK!

  Most likely, most stuff we find is, but damn just imagine finding the other piece with American marks.  Now that would get some attention.

  PS....  It is very interesting if it's 16th century but keep in mind it's far different coming off a later site than would be a site dating to the same period.

Was going to wait till I actually dug something silvery for my "Silver Member" level status, but that spoon mold is one nice piece of newly dug history!

Spoon, Banner....

SPANNER!!!
Carl
Stuck in 18" of snow, Denver

[earliest spoon mold ever found in the wjole USA/Canada.]

Also for you guy's tring to figure this piece out.There are like notches in the mold piece I don't know if they are some kind of makers mark or what if need be I can take some more pics.Don't know how you guy's come up with the things you do with these finds I'd be here for ever tring to find something on them not very good in that field.One of many things this forum is good for a fact!   
                                         Timekiller!

The marker marks are on the missing piece (if it had one, none visable on that piece), go out & find it   Good work Jonnyi on the possible 16th Century date, needs further work to confirm this & I ruled it out based on likely hood & similar 17th C types.  However, if it is, it needs Museum expertise, probably British as well, as its likely too specialist. (I guess).  Look for the other half, if you get it, I can pass on some contacts.

I already voted banner.  Once again, if this doesn't make it nothing should.

  Ok, nothing should. 

Is that the IP seal of approval

Seriously, I'm going to stick my neck out & say this could very well be the earliest spoon mold ever found in the wjole USA/Canada.  Historial doesn't come close to explaining the tales this one could tell.  NB.  Just becuase it might be 16th C doesn't mean that it didn't go out of fashion & then was purchased second hand (100 years old) & carried to the US as a good starting kit for the new settlers.

  Yes!  Definitely has my vote.  That sucker must have made one pile of spoons being around that long.

Exactly my thought, there maybe some in a Museum somewhere!  The experts thinking it was made in the UK!

  Most likely, most stuff we find is, but damn just imagine finding the other piece with American marks.  Now that would get some attention.

  PS....  It is very interesting if it's 16th century but keep in mind it's far different coming off a later site than would be a site dating to the same period.

Agreed, I have no clue what age the site is & I understand its a sore thumb in the mix but the site has only just begun to be unpicked, we might get more info soon.  Don't think it will include anything as old as this though.  I would guess its a well used handed down item.

"Seriously, I'm going to stick my neck out & say this could very well be the earliest spoon mold ever found in the whole USA/Canada.  Historial doesn't come close to explaining the tales this one could tell.  NB.  Just becuase it might be 16th C doesn't mean that it didn't go out of fashion & then was purchased second hand (100 years old) & carried to the US as a good starting kit for the new settlers. "

You did well to stick your neck out Crusader. Right now we can only speculate on its exact provenance, but the nearness to the Jamestown settlement might be to a key to some  exact identification. There are a wealth of finds rthere to research. The score lines on along the handle are unique like fingerprints and can be matched if other like objects exist.

Definately "Banner"!!!!

    I'll be curious to see the update on this. Sure seems against the odds for a 16th century relic to be with mid. to late 18th century finds, but not impossible and very cool if it's the case.

    I vote banter... I mean banher...  I mean.... did you not see my token   gheesh. 

Yes I did see that baby and voted on it as well buddy. But as I have found out on here some things take awhile to get up there just like my token what was it a month after the find it showed up there.I don't understand the reason for that as some things go up as quick as they appear.But I do know this mold rather it is 16,17,18,19,20,21th century    came from this site these finds came from how I don't know but did.It is odd and I maybe shouldn't put 16th century on the title But I respect what you say there IP! I just find,post and try to learn from.Rather it does or not I'm past that crazy mess.

    I'll be curious to see the update on this. Sure seems against the odds for a 16th century relic to be with mid. to late 18th century finds, but not impossible and very cool if it's the case.

    I vote banter... I mean banher...  I mean.... did you not see my token   gheesh. 

Yes I did see that baby and voted on it as well buddy. But as I have found out on here some things take awhile to get up there just like my token what was it a month after the find it showed up there.I don't understand the reason for that as some things go up as quick as they appear.But I do know this mold rather it is 16,17,18,19,20,21th century    came from this site these finds came from how I don't know but did.It is odd and I maybe shouldn't put 16th century on the title But I respect what you say there IP! I just find,post and try to learn from.Rather it does or not I'm past that crazy mess.

  I'm just causing a bit of trouble.      I might post an update soon, show em what they missed.   

  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/QWkbFKJZB0k" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/QWkbFKJZB0k</a>   

    I'll be curious to see the update on this. Sure seems against the odds for a 16th century relic to be with mid. to late 18th century finds, but not impossible and very cool if it's the case.

    I vote banter... I mean banher...  I mean.... did you not see my token   gheesh. 

Yes I did see that baby and voted on it as well buddy. But as I have found out on here some things take awhile to get up there just like my token what was it a month after the find it showed up there.I don't understand the reason for that as some things go up as quick as they appear.But I do know this mold rather it is 16,17,18,19,20,21th century    came from this site these finds came from how I don't know but did.It is odd and I maybe shouldn't put 16th century on the title But I respect what you say there IP! I just find,post and try to learn from.Rather it does or not I'm past that crazy mess.

  I'm just causing a bit of trouble.      I might post an update soon, show em what they missed.   

  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/QWkbFKJZB0k" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/QWkbFKJZB0k</a>   

There you go Buddy,Tell you the truth when I first dug it out I thought it was a piano foot pedal. Just shows how much I know. Was't till later after knocking the dirt off that it wasn't making since to me.
                                                Pete

Excellent finds timekiller That spoon mold is a unique find  

  BANNER  

To get a real appreciation for this fantastic find, here's a great link which vividly shows life and objects perhaps as  long as a full hundred years AFTER this mold was made.  http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16277/16277-h/16277-h.htm

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