A Rare 16th Century Spoon Mold Find!

Pete,
We are all looking forward to what you are teasing about.

I have had one other thought for you to consider.

At Old Salem (in Winston-Salem) there is a shop with two craftsmen who make pewter spoons from molds very similar to yours.  They make them for sale in the gift shop.  They are very good craftsmen.  Their molds have been made by taking castings from old spoons and then reproducing the mold from that.  They are, as I said very competent craftsmen.

There is likely a way for them to cast half a pewter spoon from your mold so you could see what it looked like.  They would have to make a dummy other half.  I think they could do it.

Or, of course, perhaps the Master you have contacted could do it for you.  You would be expected to post a photo of the result on here.

Just something to ponder.  Do a search for Old Salem and look around the web site, it is a well known historic site.

George buddy,That could get exspensive as I would feel like I need to send them out to you guy's like cigars.

[just to be clear. It is on the age of the mold is what he sent. *16th century* And possible maker! *English*]

Thanks guy's for your dedication and concerns on this as I have got some news this morning from a contact that is a MASTER PEWTER, and if he gives me the go ahead I'll post what he told me.I'm waiting on him to give me the word.I can say this much we won't be dissappointed.  




 Ps    just to be clear. It is on the age of the mold is what he sent.   *16th century* And possible maker! *English*

As we all hoped, nice to have it confirmed as English as well, love to know about the maker that would be amazing.  A person in time but so long ago

What a fabulous find.   I find relics like this so much more interesting than rings and coins.  Thanks for sharing it with us and thanks to all for all the great info they have shared.

Rare it is, banner it should be!!

Thanks guy's for your dedication and concerns on this as I have got some news this morning from a contact that is a MASTER PEWTER, and if he gives me the go ahead I'll post what he told me.I'm waiting on him to give me the word.I can say this much we won't be dissappointed.  




 Ps    Just to be clear. It is on the age of the mold is what he sent.  *16th century*
        And possible maker! *English*
   

You do know we're waiting, "right". 

Rare it is, banner it should be!!

get voting

We want the rest of the story.  Spill the beans!

WELCOME TO THE BANNER!!!

WOW!!!    Congrats on the BANNER  TK. 
-MM-

Pete. You made it. "CONGRATS ON MAKING BANNER". Awesome dude.    

I just knew this had to make banner sooner or later. Later is better than not at all.  

This is the best find I've seen yet. You are the man.  

Randy

 

Pete. You made it. "CONGRATS ON MAKING BANNER". Awesome dude.    

I just knew this had to make banner sooner or later. Later is better than not at all.  

This is the best find I've seen yet. You are the man.  

Randy

ditto

  Wasn't this posted more than 10 days ago?  I think I have to vote  deBanner. 

Nice! What do spoon molds ring up as? Silver?

  Wasn't this posted more than 10 days ago?  I think I have to vote  deBanner. 

    

Congratulations on a well deserved BANNER!!!!!!

Congrats on the banner!!!

habs

Congratulations again man! It's great to see this archived this way, and I'd bet money this kind of inspirational find will cause a few  people to take a second look at relic hunting and preservation. It will really be something if a few existing very early spoons found in the U.S. can be matched to this  mold too. Great find!

Moderators,
I've probably not acted very well again in the long run on this one!  Not to justify my ways but boy this was another on the edge of the seat deal with this one. I've tried to understand how these things work even though it don't matter really as it is your call.But thats just my nature how I am. And as days go buy and things are said you can ask my wife as I'm not very patient for a person. (just how I've always been). But it all worked out in the long run. Sure you all could have done with out somethings that were said and feel bad about saying them once again.So I'll take my FOOT OUT OF MY MOUTH once again
                                                Thanks behind the forum Guy's!

For the Iding guy's that helped me on this one BIG THANKS again guy's And for those who replied HONERED ALSO   And for the ones who stayed with this to get were it is   HONERED AS WELL! (also YEA!! )




You all know your place on the above some more than one but as I feel we are all in this HOBBY TOGETHER no need to single any one out! ALL ARE GREAT AT WHAT THEY DO  
                                                 THANKS MUCH!!!!
AND MORE TO COME I HOPE WHEN THIS STORM WE HAVE BEEN IN FOR FOUR DAYS NOW IS OVER!

congrats on making the banner !!!

Congrat's on the much deserved Banner.

Congrats on making the banner.  It was well-deserved, Pete!  

Also, thank you to johnnyi for staying as peristent as Pete has been with this find; you, sir, have been a great addition to this forum, and I'm not the only one thinking that.  You're a wealth of information and I look forward to your future ID assistance and, of course, your killer digs made on the Colonial frontier.

Pete, what more can I say about you?   You're amazing, buddy, and that is an understatement!

Kyle

It's great to see this make it up top.   

Congratulations for making the banner my man. That spoon mold is unbelievable. A relic find to end all relic finds. CKK would love to find any of your items in this post.
Chris

 

Weldone Pete took a bit of persuading but it got there in the end

SS

[to webmaster@treasurenet.comdate Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 12:59 PMsubject Forum QuestionSorry to bother you but I read the forum several times everyday and watch with interest for the rare finds that turn up.I applaud each one that is found worthy of making the banner. With regard to that, I wonder why it is that a rarity of the level of the spoon mold posted on Oct. 28 by 'timekiller' still has not been 'officially' recognized.This thread is one of the longest running I have seen in some time and the majority of the posts seem to center around why this hasn't made the banner.People have voted and voted, but no banner.......in the meantime some less important finds have been posted and made it in almost no time.I even see people posting in other threads that they are voting banner on the subject of that thread, but don't know if it will do any good. That reflects back on the spoon mold thread.May I simply ask, 'what's the deal'? and request, along with the hundreds of folks chanting BANNER, please recognize this historic rarity.Sincerely,Brent Parks [EDITED - removed the webmaster response to my email which (thanks to SS) I found out was in violation of the rules -- "You may not... Post PM's (TreasureNet personal messages), email messages, or any other form of correspondence from other people that were intended or assumed to be solely for you. "]---------------------------------------------------------------Oh, and HH to all........]

My congrats also timekiller on the banner.

This is actually my first post on the forum. I registered and have been 'lurking' for some months, reading with great interest all the finds being made, especially those of great historical import and implications.

All of the reading and research this sets me off to doing, I hope will keep my aging brain cells active enough to ward off dementia! I'm recently retired and have not detected since the mid-70s when I used a Garrett BFO and a Master Hunter TR.
35 years later I'm trying to get back at it. A couple of surgeries have slowed my beginnings, but I am determined to do it.

I got so frustrated reading everyone else's frustrations about the non-banner, that I decided yesterday I would write the site owner. I was sure someone else already had but figured I would worry him too.

Copied below are our emails is my email for your perusal.

I do not have an inkling that my email made any particular difference but it did go BANNER a short while after I wrote. My main point is this will likely happen again so perhaps after a reasonable time all involved could agree for some appointee (no need to flood the guy) to write webmaster@treasurenet.com and request him to investigate.

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to   webmaster@treasurenet.com
date   Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 12:59 PM
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Sorry to bother you but I read the forum several times everyday and watch with interest for the rare finds that turn up.

I applaud each one that is found worthy of making the banner. With regard to that, I wonder why it is that a rarity of the level of the spoon mold posted on Oct. 28 by 'timekiller'  still has not been 'officially' recognized.

This thread is one of the longest running I have seen in some time and the majority of the posts seem to center around why this hasn't made the banner.

People have voted and voted, but no banner.......in the meantime some less important finds have been posted and made it in almost no time.

I even see people posting in other threads that they are voting banner on the subject of that thread, but don't know if it will do any good. That reflects back on the spoon mold thread.

May I simply ask, 'what's the deal'? and request, along with the hundreds of folks chanting BANNER, please recognize this historic rarity.


Sincerely,
Brent Parks

 [EDITED - removed the webmaster response to my email which (thanks to SS) I found out was in violation of the rules -- "You may not... Post PM's (TreasureNet personal messages), email messages, or any other form of correspondence from other people that were intended or assumed to be solely for you. "]


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Oh,
and HH to all........

Welcome to T.Net

SS

[to webmaster@treasurenet.comdate Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 12:59 PMsubject Forum QuestionSorry to bother you but I read the forum several times everyday and watch with interest for the rare finds that turn up.I applaud each one that is found worthy of making the banner. With regard to that, I wonder why it is that a rarity of the level of the spoon mold posted on Oct. 28 by 'timekiller' still has not been 'officially' recognized.This thread is one of the longest running I have seen in some time and the majority of the posts seem to center around why this hasn't made the banner.People have voted and voted, but no banner.......in the meantime some less important finds have been posted and made it in almost no time.I even see people posting in other threads that they are voting banner on the subject of that thread, but don't know if it will do any good. That reflects back on the spoon mold thread.May I simply ask, 'what's the deal'? and request, along with the hundreds of folks chanting BANNER, please recognize this historic rarity.Sincerely,Brent Parks [EDITED - removed the webmaster response to my email which (thanks to SS) I found out was in violation of the rules -- "You may not... Post PM's (TreasureNet personal messages), email messages, or any other form of correspondence from other people that were intended or assumed to be solely for you. "]---------------------------------------------------------------Oh, and HH to all........]

My congrats also timekiller on the banner.

This is actually my first post on the forum. I registered and have been 'lurking' for some months, reading with great interest all the finds being made, especially those of great historical import and implications.

All of the reading and research this sets me off to doing, I hope will keep my aging brain cells active enough to ward off dementia! I'm recently retired and have not detected since the mid-70s when I used a Garrett BFO and a Master Hunter TR.
35 years later I'm trying to get back at it. A couple of surgeries have slowed my beginnings, but I am determined to do it.

I got so frustrated reading everyone else's frustrations about the non-banner, that I decided yesterday I would write the site owner. I was sure someone else already had but figured I would worry him too.

Copied below are our emails is my email for your perusal.

I do not have an inkling that my email made any particular difference but it did go BANNER a short while after I wrote. My main point is this will likely happen again so perhaps after a reasonable time all involved could agree for some appointee (no need to flood the guy) to write webmaster@treasurenet.com and request him to investigate.

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to   webmaster@treasurenet.com
date   Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 12:59 PM
subject   Forum Question

Sorry to bother you but I read the forum several times everyday and watch with interest for the rare finds that turn up.

I applaud each one that is found worthy of making the banner. With regard to that, I wonder why it is that a rarity of the level of the spoon mold posted on Oct. 28 by 'timekiller'  still has not been 'officially' recognized.

This thread is one of the longest running I have seen in some time and the majority of the posts seem to center around why this hasn't made the banner.

People have voted and voted, but no banner.......in the meantime some less important finds have been posted and made it in almost no time.

I even see people posting in other threads that they are voting banner on the subject of that thread, but don't know if it will do any good. That reflects back on the spoon mold thread.

May I simply ask, 'what's the deal'? and request, along with the hundreds of folks chanting BANNER, please recognize this historic rarity.


Sincerely,
Brent Parks

 [EDITED - removed the webmaster response to my email which (thanks to SS) I found out was in violation of the rules -- "You may not... Post PM's (TreasureNet personal messages), email messages, or any other form of correspondence from other people that were intended or assumed to be solely for you. "]


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Oh,
and HH to all........

Sounds like you just may have been the fly in the Ointment  Thanks for your concerns! But somthing even better is that your on here now so we will be looking for some GOOD FINDS COMING FROM YOU buddy! Sorry to hear about the surgery deal. Hope you the best on that. Yea I was a small fellow back in the mid 70's maybe going with my dad down the creek looking for Indian stuff but no thought's of MD'ING back then.Many years later and look what happened to me. Got the bug BAD!!!!
                                                                Take Care,
                                                                         TK, (Pete)

Weldone Pete took a bit of persuading but it got there in the end

SS

SS, you must have a stock pile of these pics.! Got me again Buddy!
                                          Best to you and the Family!

Thanks Pete and SS for the welcome!

Pete, if my email did anything I'm tickled some shades of pink!

H-S

[to webmaster@treasurenet.comdate Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 12:59 PMsubject Forum QuestionSorry to bother you but I read the forum several times everyday and watch with interest for the rare finds that turn up.I applaud each one that is found worthy of making the banner. With regard to that, I wonder why it is that a rarity of the level of the spoon mold posted on Oct. 28 by 'timekiller' still has not been 'officially' recognized.This thread is one of the longest running I have seen in some time and the majority of the posts seem to center around why this hasn't made the banner.People have voted and voted, but no banner.......in the meantime some less important finds have been posted and made it in almost no time.I even see people posting in other threads that they are voting banner on the subject of that thread, but don't know if it will do any good. That reflects back on the spoon mold thread.May I simply ask, 'what's the deal'? and request, along with the hundreds of folks chanting BANNER, please recognize this historic rarity.Sincerely,Brent Parks [EDITED - removed the webmaster response to my email which (thanks to SS) I found out was in violation of the rules -- "You may not... Post PM's (TreasureNet personal messages), email messages, or any other form of correspondence from other people that were intended or assumed to be solely for you. "]---------------------------------------------------------------Oh, and HH to all........]

My congrats also timekiller on the banner.

This is actually my first post on the forum. I registered and have been 'lurking' for some months, reading with great interest all the finds being made, especially those of great historical import and implications.

All of the reading and research this sets me off to doing, I hope will keep my aging brain cells active enough to ward off dementia! I'm recently retired and have not detected since the mid-70s when I used a Garrett BFO and a Master Hunter TR.
35 years later I'm trying to get back at it. A couple of surgeries have slowed my beginnings, but I am determined to do it.

I got so frustrated reading everyone else's frustrations about the non-banner, that I decided yesterday I would write the site owner. I was sure someone else already had but figured I would worry him too.

Copied below are our emails is my email for your perusal.

I do not have an inkling that my email made any particular difference but it did go BANNER a short while after I wrote. My main point is this will likely happen again so perhaps after a reasonable time all involved could agree for some appointee (no need to flood the guy) to write webmaster@treasurenet.com and request him to investigate.

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to   webmaster@treasurenet.com
date   Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 12:59 PM
subject   Forum Question

Sorry to bother you but I read the forum several times everyday and watch with interest for the rare finds that turn up.

I applaud each one that is found worthy of making the banner. With regard to that, I wonder why it is that a rarity of the level of the spoon mold posted on Oct. 28 by 'timekiller'  still has not been 'officially' recognized.

This thread is one of the longest running I have seen in some time and the majority of the posts seem to center around why this hasn't made the banner.

People have voted and voted, but no banner.......in the meantime some less important finds have been posted and made it in almost no time.

I even see people posting in other threads that they are voting banner on the subject of that thread, but don't know if it will do any good. That reflects back on the spoon mold thread.

May I simply ask, 'what's the deal'? and request, along with the hundreds of folks chanting BANNER, please recognize this historic rarity.


Sincerely,
Brent Parks

 [EDITED - removed the webmaster response to my email which (thanks to SS) I found out was in violation of the rules -- "You may not... Post PM's (TreasureNet personal messages), email messages, or any other form of correspondence from other people that were intended or assumed to be solely for you. "]


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Oh,
and HH to all........

Welcome to Tnet (Officially), & you have good taste

Pete, what can I say? I've been without internet for 4 days, and I come back to find this exactly where it should be!

Congratulations on finding one of the coolest relics I've seen yet. It may look plain, it may act plain, but it speaks volumes as to the extent of use our ancestors had to get when they were first starting out in this new land.

Bravo Sir, I Salute You!

Pete, what can I say? I've been without internet for 4 days, and I come back to find this exactly where it should be!

Congratulations on finding one of the coolest relics I've seen yet. It may look plain, it may act plain, but it speaks volumes as to the extent of use our ancestors had to get when they were first starting out in this new land.

Bravo Sir, I Salute You!

Thanks buddy for the kind words, yea it's beauty is for certian people but it makes my hair stand on ends sometimes to hold it. (a detecting booster shot of sorts)
                                                                     TK, 

Awsome finds, I was stationed at Cherrypoint up until New Years eve 2006. I had always wanted to gain permission to hunt Moorehead around the hospital but never got it. Glad your finding the goods. HH.....Bill

Awsome finds, I was stationed at Cherrypoint up until New Years eve 2006. I had always wanted to gain permission to hunt Moorehead around the hospital but never got it. Glad your finding the goods. HH.....Bill

Thanks Bill,and even more thanks for your service   
Yea my wife works at the hospital here! But my hunts are far from it buddy! I know it would be a good place to look for some Civil War relics as they were supposed to have camped there.But I've never tried Hummmmmm! Ideas! Yea we aren't far from it a good through away!
My Dad worked at Cherrypoint as a supervisor for NADAP for 40yrs. But he retired 4or5 yrs ago now! Mabe you all saw each other who knows.   Anyway Thanks for your time spent for the Country! TOP NOTCH!! 
                                                                          Pete, 

It was an honor to serve our country, would do it again in a heartbeat. I was told that there was a huge Confederate camp (quit a few morehead city blocks long) around where the hospital sits. My hunting area was west of New Bern, near Clarks (lived on 90 acre's there, both Confederate and Union camp), I should be getting back down that way come Christmas timeframe to drop off my children at there mothers house in Wilmington, hope to get a few days of digging in.

wow  some incredible finds   some spot you have there  hh and good luck

Pete the Colonial Maniac in NC,

You are the diggity dog when it comes to Colonial. I hope you dig a Roman spoon next at this site. You are the diggity dog!

Kirk

Sweet photo's  , You did a great jobs on these photo's.
WTG on your finds , keep them coming 

 Thanks for posting ,very cool spoon mold find

Hi Timekiller...  Just to give you an idea of what a spoon from the die would be like I picked three out of
one of my showcases to show you.  I do have a spoon with an acorn on it, but just cannot find it at this
moment, I think it is stored in my garage.  We do find many spoons here in Holland, most of them, just
like in these photos in fine shape.  The reason is that they have been lost while washing dishes in a canal,
and we have many many canals here.  Deep in the water they are protected from air and oxygen, keeping
them just fine in our clay soils.

One photo shows the fronts of the three spoons, the other the backs.  The shank of your spoon mold looks
much like the spoon on the left.  That is a tin spoon.  The middle spoon is a bronze spoon, you can see that
they are much thinner than the tin spoons.  The right hand spoon shows a sort of acorn, but a plain nut
type.  I have also made some close ups of the tops...  The spoon die could also be a Dutch die, it sure looks
like one.

 

Hi Timekiller...  Just to give you an idea of what a spoon from the die would be like I picked three out of
one of my showcases to show you.  I do have a spoon with an acorn on it, but just cannot find it at this
moment, I think it is stored in my garage.  We do find many spoons here in Holland, most of them, just
like in these photos in fine shape.  The reason is that they have been lost while washing dishes in a canal,
and we have many many canals here.  Deep in the water they are protected from air and oxygen, keeping
them just fine in our clay soils.

One photo shows the fronts of the three spoons, the other the backs.  The shank of your spoon mold looks
much like the spoon on the left.  That is a tin spoon.  The middle spoon is a bronze spoon, you can see that
they are much thinner than the tin spoons.  The right hand spoon shows a sort of acorn, but a plain nut
type.  I have also made some close ups of the tops...  The spoon die could also be a Dutch die, it sure looks
like one.

 

Thanks for the pics. WOODY,And I had not thought down those lines but a danish 2 skilling was found near by so could be I guess.Just out of the blue what do your spoons date too.

found these in one of my books.

found these in one of my books.

Yea Cru, that's it, the pewter one.  Although the photo shows a worked stem, and the found mold
is just a square one.  Most of the silver and bronze had a much smaller (narrower) stem.  I have
never found a spoon mold, but did find a half of a mold for making a tin dog (or something like that),
a childrens toy also from the 17th/16th century.  It looks like some of the bottom is chipped away.
Its of course neat to see how they made that sort of thing back then.

Note: in the photo below it might appear that the dog is raising out of the mold, but actually its engraved
into the mold.  If you change your looking angle, or look with one eye it might change.....

OK Pete. We've seen the little silver bits and pieces you've been finding. 

NOW.

When you gone find the other half of this? 

I know there's a lot of folks out there that would love to see you find the other piece and I hope you do. I think this is the best find ever. 

Just wanted to let you know I haven't forgot. 

Randy

OK Pete. We've seen the little silver bits and pieces you've been finding. 

NOW.

When you gone find the other half of this? 

I know there's a lot of folks out there that would love to see you find the other piece and I hope you do. I think this is the best find ever. 

Just wanted to let you know I haven't forgot. 

Randy

Good Lord,I about forgot that thing No the silver is from a closer spot for me. But some news on this place is that when it dries up my uncle might shave some off the top of this site for me so it might turn out to be christmas after all around here.  

OK Pete. We've seen the little silver bits and pieces you've been finding. 

NOW.

When you gone find the other half of this? 

I know there's a lot of folks out there that would love to see you find the other piece and I hope you do. I think this is the best find ever. 

Just wanted to let you know I haven't forgot. 

Randy

Good Lord,I about forgot that thing No the silver is from a closer spot for me. But some news on this place is that when it dries up my uncle might shave some off the top of this site for me so it might turn out to be christmas after all around here.  

I was afraid you had forgot about it.  Sure hope he don't shave off some of the other half while he's shaving some off the top.  That other half could be anywhere within a hundred acres. May take years to find it. Don't worry though, we'll keep reminding you. 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-ENGLISH-...ZUK_Antiquities?hash=item53df038bb0

Heres your chance to get a similar spoon

Bump

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-ENGLISH-...ZUK_Antiquities?hash=item53df038bb0

Heres your chance to get a similar spoon

Bump

Thanks for the thought Buddy Money kinda funny now here after christmas and all but I don't forget about this mold and have been looking ever since I found it trying to see another mold like it. Also look for spoons from time to time and see a few of them that are close but the one you posted there is one of the closes.I see a few on this site I think I asked you about one time in the past. http://time-lines.co.uk/medieval-spoon-004071-12526-0.html
Anyway not been to the site I found it at in a good while now need to get back and try again sometime.Never know when luck might come your way you know.
Take Care,
             Pete!

WOW! whats something like that worth?

WOW! whats something like that worth?

Good question seems how I have never seen another like it yet and you can believe I've looked since I found this one Value is the history! Don't know about the $$$

[ever]

WOW! whats something like that worth?

Good question seems how I have never seen another like it yet and you can believe I've looked since I found this one Value is the history! Don't know about the $$$

Good response.

You are the custodian of a Museum piece, as I said before most likely the oldest one ever found in the whole USA.

Just a update on this mold that I just recieved today.It is from the British Museum.And of another contact that I can find more out on maybe.
It is hard to tell from images alone, but the spoon mould does look as if it is made to produce a 16th Century type, with acorn knop and stem of quadrangular section, and the bowl shape would seem to fit for this dating. But it could date into the early 17th Century given where it was made. The Victoria and Albert Museum, Metalwork, could probably give you a close parallel and might be able to date it more precisely.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Dr Dora Thornton



When I find more out I'll let you know!

Just a update on this mold that I just recieved today.It is from the British Museum.And of another contact that I can find more out on maybe.
It is hard to tell from images alone, but the spoon mould does look as if it is made to produce a 16th Century type, with acorn knop and stem of quadrangular section, and the bowl shape would seem to fit for this dating. But it could date into the early 17th Century given where it was made. The Victoria and Albert Museum, Metalwork, could probably give you a close parallel and might be able to date it more precisely.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Dr Dora Thornton



When I find more out I'll let you know!

thanks for the update, at first I thought 17th C but I think we can rule it out

Just a update on this mold that I just recieved today.It is from the British Museum.And of another contact that I can find more out on maybe.
It is hard to tell from images alone, but the spoon mould does look as if it is made to produce a 16th Century type, with acorn knop and stem of quadrangular section, and the bowl shape would seem to fit for this dating. But it could date into the early 17th Century given where it was made. The Victoria and Albert Museum, Metalwork, could probably give you a close parallel and might be able to date it more precisely.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Dr Dora Thornton



When I find more out I'll let you know!

thanks for the update, at first I thought 17th C but I think we can rule it out

Sure thing there Cru, Again thank you for what you do here as well!

Just a update on this mold that I just recieved today.It is from the British Museum.And of another contact that I can find more out on maybe.
It is hard to tell from images alone, but the spoon mould does look as if it is made to produce a 16th Century type, with acorn knop and stem of quadrangular section, and the bowl shape would seem to fit for this dating. But it could date into the early 17th Century given where it was made. The Victoria and Albert Museum, Metalwork, could probably give you a close parallel and might be able to date it more precisely.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Dr Dora Thornton



When I find more out I'll let you know!

thanks for the update, at first I thought 17th C but I think we can rule it out

Sure thing there Cru, Again thank you for what you do here as well!

16th century.   Man to dig something that old.

Amazing man.

Just one last reply on this as I recieved it this morning.Although they told me it could take up to 30 day's it didn't and Thank Them For There Help. I've got enough on it now to ese my mine.On it's age.Not that it wasn't on here just my nature to know as much as I can on what I find.


Dear Pete

Thank you for you enquiry and for sending me these very interesting pictures. It is of course difficult for me to say anything definitive based on photographs alone but the acorn finial and roundness of the bowl suggest to me that stylistically a date of around 1600 would be appropriate. Whether the mould is genuinely of that date of course will be partly determined by the context in which it was found.

I hope this information is useful.
Best wishes,
Angus Patterson




Angus Patterson
Curator, Arms and Armour and Base Metals
Victoria & Albert Museum
Cromwell Rd
South Kensington
SW7 2RL
Tel: (020) 7942 2471
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Angus,

That spoon mold looks like it would be valuable. I mean those cant be easy to run across.  VERY GOOD FIND