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SNY - Belt Plate.......What a nice surprise! (Read 3731 times)
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  • Posted Nov 02, 2009, 04:56:35 PM
         This weekend started out like any other with a plan on where we were going to detect and the time we were going to meet…..but that changed quickly when a friend I was going digging with could not make it at the last minuet…So I decided to make my way down to Allegany county where we had planed to go, shortly after that phone call I decided to call another friend that I go detecting with “Jim B”.  The funny thing is, he was heading down to Allegany county also…….so we decided to hook up and do some detecting. After giving me the location where they were going to be, I put the info in my GPS and within a short time I arrived at the location…. Now the walk was not far, but it was up an old horse and wagon road that is no longer being used.  After about a 15-minute walk, I arrived at the old foundation. I seen Jim talking to someone, it was a friend of his and a member of our club.  His name was also Jim and we meet around a month ago at one of our club functions…. what a small world!  This story gets good right off the bat…he hands me a silver coin that he just found and it was a good one….silver and old… real old.  It turned out to be an early English silver…It was the size of a silver US half but had no date….With Jim now being video taped and excited about his find, I just said "that’s a nice find now its my turn" and laughed....……I turned on the detector and off I went ……but its gets better.  After finding a few old beer can tops left by some old woodland beer drinkers!  I pulled out a detectorests treat!!! and it was one of those finds on the old have to find list….this beautiful “SNY” pre Civil War Belt Plate.  Now I was more surprised than anyone….right after Jim found what is definitely a first for him , I also find a first Plate of this type and my second to date.
      
        

                      

        

         After doing a little research on this plate on the web , here is some information on this particular plate…….  
         The design follows the Regulation 1839 and was intended for New York troops.  This large plate with well formed thin letters and wire hooks, would appear to date well before the war to the "Dragoon" period, however none of these have been found at any Civil War sites. Apparently these plates with the belts and cartridge boxes, were trapped in a warehouse somewhere in New York and simply missed the war, even though troops in the field could certainly have used them.  Designed for a 2 inch belt, the plate was die struck on thin brass sheet, solder filled, wire hooks are right handed (two wire hooks under the "S"). These plates were made in the 1840’s and were used up to the Civil war.  With all that said....there is mixed reviews regarding this buckle....some sites say it was used during the Civil War and some say it was pre Civil War.  I guess will have to just keep digging............!   http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~scprnyz/Uniform_Guidelines.html

         I know one thing, I was surprised to see it and never expected it!!! The rest of the day we all found some nice stuff including a nice bell, a couple of old dresses pins (one the shape of a heart) and the other with a floral design.  Sorry I don’t have picks of their items but I’m sure they will be posted.  

        

           The large cent is an 1839 the Indian 1892 , wheat’s are 1909,1916 they were found at another cellar hole on the property….



            
                                      


        

         .All in all, it was a terrific day with plenty of nice Relics and a couple of firsts to go along with it…………..
        
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                                                                                              Keep in Digging!!!   John  

              

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    Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Nov 02, 2009, 05:01:51 PM
    Wow that is a hunt beyond words... Congrats

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    Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Nov 02, 2009, 05:06:38 PM
    Wow Seeker ... nice stuff ... everything cleaned up well and will make a great display ... definite congratz on the cool plate!

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    Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Nov 02, 2009, 05:22:01 PM
    Can you say backflip....what I would do....wow!

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  • Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Nov 02, 2009, 05:38:46 PM
    Now that's what I'm talking about! Sweeeeet plate  thumbsup

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  • Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Nov 02, 2009, 05:44:44 PM
    Sweet plate!!

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  • Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Nov 02, 2009, 05:49:48 PM
    Real nice relics & coins, congratulations on the finds!
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    Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Nov 02, 2009, 06:48:45 PM
    Really nice belt plate!  Congrats on that awesome relic!
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  • Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Nov 02, 2009, 06:53:01 PM
    My vote is in. I'd really like to find one of those!
    Great find.
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  • Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Nov 02, 2009, 07:18:10 PM
    Man great find John.

    Glad to see you are doing well and out hunting. I was wondering were you have been. I guess you were saving up a big one for us. I'd love to come across a plate here at some point. Once again great find man and congrats.

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    Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Nov 02, 2009, 07:47:26 PM
    Excellent!  You sure love those cellar holes...and I can see why.

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    Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Nov 02, 2009, 07:52:46 PM
    Awesome Plate Man!!! headbang
    HH!!
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    Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Nov 03, 2009, 02:34:25 AM
     Shocked Nice Plate  Shocked A Dream Come True  Grin

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    Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Nov 03, 2009, 03:22:54 AM
    You found a great site...........hope you find more............. thumbsup
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    Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Nov 03, 2009, 03:46:05 AM
    Wow nice belt plate  icon_thumleft
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    Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Nov 03, 2009, 04:33:35 AM
    Great plate! looks like a box plate from the front where the iron loops are comming through. What does the back look like?

    Great find!
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    Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Nov 03, 2009, 05:20:44 AM
    Beautiful stuff there icon_thumright
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    Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Nov 03, 2009, 09:13:49 AM
    Great dig John,I BET that was a surprise for you......Congrat's to ya on a great save  thumbsup
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    Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Nov 03, 2009, 12:30:28 PM
    you really racked up on the good finds !! thumbsup

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  • Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Nov 03, 2009, 03:58:53 PM
    Thought this would make Banner.  Congratulations on a fantastic find!    Thee HOGGE

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  • Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Nov 03, 2009, 04:08:57 PM
    Great looking plate.

    Looks even better up on the Banner !!!

    Congrats on a saving a great piece of history.

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    Reply To This Topic #21 Posted Nov 03, 2009, 04:48:53 PM
    That's some beautiful finds.  Shocked  icon_thumleft

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    Reply To This Topic #22 Posted Nov 03, 2009, 05:36:09 PM
     :headbang:Simply wonderful.It doesn't get any better than that !
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  • Reply To This Topic #23 Posted Nov 03, 2009, 05:56:09 PM
    WOW!!!! Great hunt!!!! Congrats on the BANNER
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  • Reply To This Topic #24 Posted Nov 03, 2009, 06:02:41 PM
    Ok, you have always out hunted us on the Brother's and Others hunts, and won the chicken, but now it is time to tell you the truth.  You are one lucky DOG!!!!!  WTG!!!! I'll have you on my team anytime!  Congrats!  I hope this makes best finds of the year!   tongue3
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  • Reply To This Topic #25 Posted Nov 03, 2009, 06:08:46 PM
    Congrats on a your great finds and congrats on the banner!    headbang     hello2
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  • Reply To This Topic #26 Posted Nov 03, 2009, 06:45:14 PM
     thumbsup Awesome Hunt with some beautiful finds to say the least. I wish you had made a video.  thumbsup

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  • Reply To This Topic #27 Posted Nov 03, 2009, 07:17:36 PM
    I think you have earned this!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The FAMOUS SCREAMING CHICKEN AWARD

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    Reply To This Topic #28 Posted Nov 03, 2009, 08:34:04 PM
    now why in the hell it an't it on the banner lot better than some of the other stuff kansas coin hunter banner vote from me
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    Reply To This Topic #29 Posted Nov 04, 2009, 02:32:37 AM
    AWESOME!!!!...congrats!!
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    Reply To This Topic #30 Posted Nov 04, 2009, 03:21:23 AM
    now why in the hell it an't it on the banner lot better than some of the other stuff kansas coin hunter banner vote from me

    You apparently Don't look at the Banner

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    Reply To This Topic #31 Posted Nov 04, 2009, 04:05:55 AM
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  • Reply To This Topic #32 Posted Nov 04, 2009, 04:17:54 AM
    now why in the hell it an't it on the banner lot better than some of the other stuff kansas coin hunter banner vote from me

    You apparently Don't look at the Banner
    Must have been an......"oversight" Grin
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  • Reply To This Topic #33 Posted Nov 04, 2009, 05:32:12 AM
    Congrats! Very cool buckle!
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  • Reply To This Topic #34 Posted Nov 04, 2009, 06:17:39 AM
    Now that's a great looking plate... Man I love this hobby, never know what your going to get..
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  • Reply To This Topic #35 Posted Nov 04, 2009, 06:50:06 AM
    Congratulations on the great belt plate! I enjoyed the story and the history of the plate that you provided. Your find adds another page to the history of that plate. Obviously not all them sat in the storehouse!
    Nice going,
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    Reply To This Topic #36 Posted Nov 04, 2009, 06:57:35 AM
    I'm from Western NY too, I saw the video on YouTube and was not surprised at all that things like that can be found here.  Great job!  I love it!
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    Reply To This Topic #37 Posted Nov 04, 2009, 08:39:38 AM
    WTG on the Banner and nice relic and coins headbang

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  • Reply To This Topic #38 Posted Nov 04, 2009, 09:22:22 AM
    Incredible find John, that was a super nice surprise for you...CONGRATS!!

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    Reply To This Topic #39 Posted Nov 04, 2009, 03:25:46 PM
    nice  video  thumbsup
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  • Reply To This Topic #40 Posted Nov 04, 2009, 05:46:17 PM
    Congrats on the well deserved Banner!   Very nice post indeed. thumbsup     jgas

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  • Reply To This Topic #41 Posted Nov 04, 2009, 06:43:22 PM
    Queen Elizabeth 1592-5  1st hammered silver shilling (12 pence)

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    Reply To This Topic #42 Posted Nov 04, 2009, 07:16:43 PM
    Hey DetectoDude

    I woke up monday morning to my phone beeping with a photo of that fresh dug plate.

    I sent him back a message that his new nickname is   @{"^%&!+#  Horseshoe!

    About sums it up.

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  • Reply To This Topic #43 Posted Nov 04, 2009, 07:35:26 PM
    Hey DetectoDude

    I woke up monday morning to my phone beeping with a photo of that fresh dug plate.

    I sent him back a message that his new nickname is   @{"^%&!+#  Horseshoe!

    About sums it up.

        You guys are the best......I go out detecting not expected to find anything!   ( Not Really)......  I not only find a first for me!  But I get this beautiful picture of a hot Chicken babe...winning the rubberchicken award again......lolol......and after that,  get a new nickname.........You guys are the best...... hello2

                        I love this hobby............!!!      notworthy notworthy

    Oh Yes.....Nice find




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  • Reply To This Topic #44 Posted Nov 04, 2009, 08:18:03 PM
    awsome find ,John   congrats

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    Reply To This Topic #45 Posted Nov 05, 2009, 04:09:19 PM
    Thats one heck of a good day.
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  • Reply To This Topic #46 Posted Nov 05, 2009, 04:11:11 PM

      Gotta like that! Nice CW plate.  thumbsup

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    Reply To This Topic #47 Posted Nov 05, 2009, 09:54:21 PM
    Let me Guess , you did the relic hunter dance for a few seconds hello2 hello2

    Love to detect history
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    Reply To This Topic #48 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 10:13:35 PM
    Wow!  Find of a lifetime!!!    thumbsup thumbsup

    Keep hunting!
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    Reply To This Topic #49 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 05:38:27 AM
    Great find and 100% Banner worthy   hello2
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  • Reply To This Topic #50 Posted Nov 09, 2009, 06:50:12 PM
    For us seasoned CIVIL WAR RELIC hunters....this is a TERRIFIC find!  Congratulations!!! icon_king icon_king icon_king

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    Reply To This Topic #51 Posted Nov 09, 2009, 06:53:05 PM
    Seeker, I don't know how I missed this post, but that is a GREAT belt plate.  I love the large cent also, and nice relics!

    HH
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    Reply To This Topic #52 Posted Nov 09, 2009, 06:57:51 PM
    I would say you had a dream day, with potential for more to come.
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    Reply To This Topic #53 Posted Nov 11, 2009, 08:55:08 PM
    John,
      Awesome stuff.   icon_thumright

    Just gotta head East is what I tell Nate.  Grin

    Glad to see you are still doing well and hunting.

    Bob

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  • Reply To This Topic #54 Posted Nov 11, 2009, 09:22:43 PM
     Shocked STUNNING find, John!  Cool  notworthy

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    Reply To This Topic #55 Posted Nov 16, 2009, 12:12:26 PM
     hello2 Great pieces of history you have found.   read2 These discoveries continue to amaze me everytime.
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  • Reply To This Topic #56 Posted Nov 16, 2009, 01:37:44 PM
    Excellent score on the plate, sweeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!
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    Reply To This Topic #57 Posted Nov 21, 2009, 11:26:22 AM
    Congratulations on a fantastic find! I am sure it has taken a place of honor among your many other great finds. Kudos on making the banner John...you deserved it. And since you dont need any women heart shaped pins...I know where you can send them....LOL

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  • Reply To This Topic #58 Posted Nov 21, 2009, 12:36:55 PM
    I wouldn't have been able to do a back flip, but I could have staggered around and fallen over like someone had kicked my cain out from under me! Great finds.  Monty

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    Reply To This Topic #59 Posted Nov 21, 2009, 12:37:51 PM
    Nice SNY Belt plate!
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