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Posted Oct 30, 2009, 02:01:33 am |
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Found on 'flat track trail', which is not so flat anymore  Thought I would get a quick scan in on the limited area and found this interesting lead bullet. Shaped almost like a button  Also found rock with pyrite or gold. How do you test? |
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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Oct 30, 2009, 02:22:50 am |
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Rub it on unglazed porcelain tile . black streak is pyrite, yellow streak is gold.
Or hydrochloric acid, if its gold acid will not effect it.
this pic is of pyrite in quartz .
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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Oct 30, 2009, 02:28:31 am |
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Rub it on unglazed porcelain tile . black streak is pyrite, yellow streak is gold.
Or hydrochloric acid, if its gold acid will not effect it.
this pic is of pyrite in quartz .
Thanks taz420. Have a testing kit. Just poor solution on it or bust rock to get specs? Any truth to the old saying: "Near fools gold is real gold"? |
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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Oct 30, 2009, 02:59:37 am |
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Tested with gold solution kit. No color reaction  |
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Oct 30, 2009, 03:12:27 am |
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I have never used kit so not much help there.
Steak test is simplest and will give definite gold or pyrite answer.
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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Oct 30, 2009, 03:17:15 am |
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I have never used kit so not much help there.
Steak test is simplest and will give definite gold or pyrite answer.
Kind of hard to streak test with specimen in the quartz. I'll find my small hammer and bust rocks Maybe the old saying goes like: "Near pyrite is fool nearby". |
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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Oct 30, 2009, 04:39:49 am |
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for what its worth - it looks like gold.
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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Oct 30, 2009, 04:46:43 am |
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for what its worth - it looks like gold.
Ahhh I like that  What about the lead? Is it a musket ball? |
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Oct 30, 2009, 05:34:10 am |
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Who cares about lead when we are talking GOLD here.  Doesn't look like a bullet to me. But I'm not a expert. Tim |
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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Oct 30, 2009, 05:52:51 am |
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Found on 'flat track trail', which is not so flat anymore Thought I would get a quick scan in on the limited area and found this interesting lead bullet. Shaped almost like a button Also found rock with pyrite or gold. How do you test?  That's a wonderfull.. Specimen of quartz and pyrite |
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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Oct 30, 2009, 06:01:29 am |
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Who cares about lead when we are talking GOLD here. Doesn't look like a bullet to me. But I'm not a expert. Tim The other rock also very heavy and has streaks/specs. Getting it out of the quartz probably wouldn't produce much Anyway, thought I would share those last minute finds from this location and still not 100% sure the lead is a musket ball Found on 'flat track trail', which is not so flat anymore Thought I would get a quick scan in on the limited area and found this interesting lead bullet. Shaped almost like a button Also found rock with pyrite or gold. How do you test? That's a wonderfull.. Specimen of quartz and pyrite Thanks Mike  How do you determine? The way it's in the quartz? |
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Oct 30, 2009, 06:08:53 am |
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I'm no expert on the gold part but the rock looks like Pyrite we used to get when I worked at a rock quarry. I could be wrong on that though. Look around the edge of the lead thing to see if there is any iron wire if so it's a lead seal. I've dug several from the late 1800's shaped like that. If there's no wire then I'd say it's a fired round ball
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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Oct 30, 2009, 06:16:33 am |
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I'm no expert on the gold part but the rock looks like Pyrite we used to get when I worked at a rock quarry. I could be wrong on that though. Look around the edge of the lead thing to see if there is any iron wire if so it's a lead seal. I've dug several from the late 1800's shaped like that. If there's no wire then I'd say it's a fired round ball
Thanks vayank54  No wires in the lead. I'll green check as fired musket ball I'm no expert on the gold either and very well could be pyrite. |
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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Oct 30, 2009, 06:40:37 am |
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Your'e welcome. I hope you find out something on the rock.
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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 05:03:04 am |
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I do believe this is gold in quartz  Back out this morning to find more  |
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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 05:23:59 am |
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Nice pics Spike. Looks like you're hunting spot is going to be gone soon!!
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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 05:28:09 am |
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Nice pics Spike. Looks like you're hunting spot is going to be gone soon!!
Yeah the gold will be buried forever but I can still get on my bicycle and ride this trail |
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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 06:40:55 am |
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Dues the quartz signal with a metal detector?
Does Pyrite signal with a metal detector?
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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 06:43:01 am |
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Dues the quartz signal with a metal detector?
Does Pyrite signal with a metal detector?
No signal from metal detector. Just an interesting looking quartz picked up in the dark |
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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 07:48:32 am |
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Dues the quartz signal with a metal detector?
Does Pyrite signal with a metal detector?
No signal from metal detector. Just an interesting looking quartz picked up in the dark I would think gold would be picked up by a sensitive metal detector. Turn off all discrimination. If you have a detector that can pick up a thin gold chain, it should pick up this, if its gold. As far as the test solution, you can only expect to test metal with a test solution. I suggest try to to determine if it is in fact even metal. |
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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 08:10:54 am |
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Dues the quartz signal with a metal detector?
Does Pyrite signal with a metal detector?
No signal from metal detector. Just an interesting looking quartz picked up in the dark I would think gold would be picked up by a sensitive metal detector. Turn off all discrimination. If you have a detector that can pick up a thin gold chain, it should pick up this, if its gold. As far as the test solution, you can only expect to test metal with a test solution. I suggest try to to determine if it is in fact even metal. Thanks advise and good point as to whether in fact it is metal I tried with the pin pointer and no metal detection either. Anyway, very small quantity of "glitter" in the quartz specimen. |
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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 08:18:25 am |
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Try the thinnest or smallest piece of gold chain to see if your detector or pinpointer will signal. My Whites detector will pick up a gold link piece the size of a matchhead.
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Reply To This Topic #22 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 08:31:04 am |
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Try the thinnest or smallest piece of gold chain to see if your detector or pinpointer will signal. My Whites detector will pick up a gold link piece the size of a matchhead.
I think this glitter has to be pyrite as it doesn't make sense a detector wouldn't register if indeed gold. Thank you for your help bigcypresshunter Pyrite technically a mineral with about 47% iron and 53% sulphur. |
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