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Need help IDing this 1808 Spanish coin (Read 281 times)
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Posted Nov 06, 2009, 05:17:31 PM
I was wondering everything about this coin. If you could help me on it, it will be much appreciated.

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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 05:27:30 PM
Now your talkin silver. Smiley 8 reale Carolus IIII Mexico mint.
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  • Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 05:41:10 PM
    Now your talkin silver. Smiley 8 reale Carolus IIII Mexico mint.


        ...with what looks to be a few Chinese chop marks.

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    Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 05:49:31 PM
    Obverse: An armored, laureated bust of Carlos IV, facing right.
    CAROLUS IIII DEI GRATIA 1808

    Reverse, a crowned coat of arms of Spain consisting of a quartered shield with castles and lions in the quarters. In the small center shield are three fluers de lis. At the bottom of the shield is a pomegranate. Beside the shield are two columns.
    PLUS VUTRA, is inscribed on the ribbons which are wrapped around the columns.
    HISPAN ET IND REX (small 'o' over capital 'M'--for Mexico City mint); 8R (8-reales) TH (assayers initials).

    Original coin weighed 26.83 grams, was 40 mm in diameter and was .896 silver.
    And what appear to be: 3 Chinese 'chop marks' on the king's breastplate--as Iron Patch mentioned above.
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  • Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 05:54:17 PM
    Yep!!!Thats alright!!Thats the denomination I want to dig!!

    G.M.T. M.X.T , X.L.T. 4"& 2.5" dredge with a little luck!!
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    Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 08:12:37 PM
    Wow, I learned something today.....chopmarks.

    http://www.tradedollarnut.com/Home%20Page/Home%20first%20links/Collecting/Chopmarks.htm
    http://reviews.ebay.com/Chinese-CHOPMARKS_W0QQugidZ10000000008089573

    Nice.  thumbsup  This is what its all about, learning.
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    Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 02:52:53 AM
    Nice eye for details Iron Patch and good call on the chopmarks. That's a very nice reale Coins4Cheese  icon_thumleft icon_thumleft


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    Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 06:26:31 AM
    nice coin icon_thumright, nice id icon_thumleft, and thanks for the lesson notworthy

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    Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 10:58:19 AM
    I always thought these might be chop marks but I dont know for sure. Does anyone recognize these marks? I might need a clearer pic.

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    Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 10:28:08 AM
    I always thought these might be chop marks but I dont know for sure. Does anyone recognize these marks? I might need a clearer pic.

    I think the two 'trees' look like chopmarks.

    Here's a link with a rare chopmark in relief:

    www.rosenblumcoins.com


    http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://rosenblumcoins.com/files/img/37a/617.jpg&imgrefurl=http://rosenblumcoins.com/37a&usg=__bRtm8c4br13SolK6sZIzdpBVggI=&h=318&w=640&sz=128&hl=en&start=7&um=1&tbnid=7p3RZ9SKCungmM:&tbnh=68&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dchop%2Bmarks%2Bon%2Bold%2Bcoins%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1G1ACGW_ENUS342%26um%3D1

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    Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 12:41:02 PM
    I think I see the same chopmark on all three coins. But is it unusual to see chopmarks on a 1768 $Potosi?
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    Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 01:47:36 PM
    I think I see the same chopmark on all three coins. But is it unusual to see chopmarks on a 1768 $Potosi?

    I thought the circled chopmark was a 'chopmark in relief'?

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