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Posted Nov 06, 2009, 05:32:51 pm

Found a copper or brass button or cufflink today. Does anyone know the age or maker? Is it a Model T?
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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 06:36:44 pm

looks like a model T to me. so after 1905 atleast

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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 06:37:34 pm

Looking at some pics, I think its some kind of carriage. It looks too short for a car.  dontknow
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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 07:00:27 pm

   I think you have it in your title...... It looks more like an early Ransom Olds.

Its nice.

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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 07:16:25 pm

these have a similar look to your car dontknow
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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 07:17:39 pm

or not

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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 07:29:49 pm

Looking at some pics, I think its some kind of carriage. It looks too short for a car.  dontknow

I think that's just because it's stylized.  Not a scale representation.  I was going to guess 1910 or so on the date.  ?

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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 07:36:50 pm

Its just cheap jewelry but can anyone date it from the type of cufflink? Its very lightweight.
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 07:55:47 pm

This style of cufflink was late Victorian, which is the Turn of the Century to about 1910.  I have some, and will post the pic as soon as I can find them. Grin Breezie

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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 08:05:28 pm

Thanks.
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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 08:22:28 pm

BCH,   I couldn't find the cufflinks like the one you have, but they're around here somewhere . .so many shoeboxes full of MD junk . . .anyway, I did find these.  The top 2 cufflinks were the style used 'before' yours, so they are circa 1880's.  The bottom cufflink is newer than yours, but basically the same style, putting it around the Roaring '20s. Hope this helps.  Breezie 
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Nov 06, 2009, 08:28:01 pm

My 1909 Sears Roebuck catalogue has cufflinks like the first two. I think 1920s would be about right.  icon_thumright Thanks
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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 11:08:15 am

That car is what was called a horseless carriage.  It came out before the model T.  For some reason many were made in bicycle shops.  I think this particular one is just generic of the few that were made before a real automobile was produced.  Monty

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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 11:15:30 am

That car is what was called a horseless carriage.  It came out before the model T.  For some reason many were made in bicycle shops.  I think this particular one is just generic of the few that were made before a real automobile was produced.  Monty
I think thats what it is  ...a generic horseless carriage with the close wheel base.. horseless carriage.jpg
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I dont see any markings. Should I give it a peroxide bath?
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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 03:33:03 pm

Nice cufflink BCH  icon_thumright I wouldn't clean too much, like the patina  icon_sunny
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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 09:22:10 am

I found this photo in an old car book I have that was published in 1953.
The attached photo looks similar, and may help you to date your cufflink.
Note that the car in photo has "hard" buggy-type wheels. It appears from
your own photo that the tires may be air filled rubber, which (according to my book) were introduced around 1900. Cars continued to look like this until around 1905.
So, unless your link car is just a generic image, I'd say it would be a safe bet to date the cufflink between c.1890 and c.1905.
(Ignore 1885 photo in upper left - that's something entirely different.)

Nice keeper ... too bad you didn't find two of them!   Roll Eyes
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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 09:45:59 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170400920953

     I found these on ebay, I can't tell if they are an exact match but they're pretty close. The seller says they are circa 1920's but doesn't list any references.

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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 10:02:52 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170400920953

     I found these on ebay, I can't tell if they are an exact match but they're pretty close. The seller says they are circa 1920's but doesn't list any references.

HH Charlie

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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 10:07:58 am

This thing has a tiller. "T" has a steering wheel.
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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 10:43:52 am

I'm not sure if this will help, but according to my book, steering wheels first appeared on "some" cars in 1900. Prior to this most/all were Tiller, or rudder-stick type steering devices. 

And, of course, there is always the possibility that the cufflink is merely a nostalgic look, and could have been made almost anytime in the earlier part of the century ... including on into the 1920's as the eBay guy suggest.  dontknow  If that's the case, you may never be able to identify it correctly unless some oldtimer comes along and says he used to own a pair back in ... Huh?
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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 11:39:12 am

If you feel this is solved,

Go back to your original post,

Click on Modify,

Click on Message icon down arrow,

Click on Solved,

The Green Check will appear

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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 12:18:58 pm

Thanks for the reminder and instructions. I think its a good match Savant.  icon_thumright
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Thanks also Breeze, Monty, Sodabob and kenley. I think its a 1895-1900 horseless carriage, not Model T, with a tiller and rubber tires. The cufflink is 1920's era I think because of the link type.
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