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Madison, CT
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Posted Nov 07, 2009, 03:43:54 PM |
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Didn't get this metal detecting but picked it up at an estate sale for $20.00 I'm pretty sure it's German. I'ts made by W K&C Solingen and on the hilt is stamped 31.R (cursive "R") .4.61. and on top of the hilt is a stamped insignia like a crown or english letter. It is 26" long. Thanks...Rich.
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Posts: 4418
Tierra del Fuego
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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 03:54:23 PM |
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Sry I can't ID it Rich, but there's plenty shooters around Tnet.
If you don't get an ID quick, try one of the gun boards... plenty of 'em !
Looks like an interesting curio to hang on the wall.
Good luck
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Puyallup, Wash.
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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 03:54:32 PM |
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Imperial German Model 1898 Bayonet. You are missing some parts but complete with a scabbard in good condition can run over $200. In fact I just saw one listed for $265 but it was complete and in better condition.
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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 03:57:21 PM |
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Jesus Christ, do you guys have like an alarm that goes off alerting you or something? I walked over to the bookshelf and when I got back, there were three replies. M1898 made by Simpson & Co. in 1905 or 6. for the mauser 1898. Edit: Yours in on this page: http://www.gotavapen.se/gota/artiklar/98bayonets/98bayonets1.htmIs the wood one piece or two pieces? One piece is old Pattern (a.A.) and a two piece is new Pattern (n.A.) |
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South Central, NC
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 04:03:51 PM |
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That is a nice man sticker for sure! Doubles as a spit for toasting marshmallows on those long nights in the trenches.
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Posts: 304
Madison, CT
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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 04:21:01 PM |
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Rando, mine is two piece...Rich.
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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 04:23:48 PM |
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Rando, mine is two piece...Rich.
yeah that's a new Pattern (n.A.) made after 1902. SOME were shipped to Peru, and some were used to supplement supplies in WW2, they used anydamn thing toward the end. but yours is more likely a Great War take home relic. |
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Florence, AL, Occupied C.S.A.
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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 08:16:50 PM |
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The 31.R.4.61. is an Imperial German unit marking.
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 08:22:44 PM |
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The 31.R.4.61. is an Imperial German unit marking.
OK, so it wasn't shipped to Peru, it was one of the ones that stayed in Deutschland. I was unfamiliar with that particular numeration, didn't make sense to me. By Imperial, do you mean Otto's boys?  |
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Port Richey, FL
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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 08:28:47 PM |
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Jesus Christ, do you guys have like an alarm that goes off alerting you or something?
I walked over to the bookshelf and when I got back, there were three replies.
ROFL I can't speak for the other guys but I have a bell and a flashing light signaling when something is posted in "what is it?"  Nice purchase richm |
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Sand Springs, OK
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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 03:03:11 PM |
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But then again I have seen them for sale for about $30 or less. They are not partucularly rare. I collect military bolt action rifles and several of them came with bayonets. I have a couple of those that came with a two of my early Mausers. Monty
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 03:41:41 PM |
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But then again I have seen them for sale for about $30 or less. They are not partucularly rare. I collect military bolt action rifles and several of them came with bayonets. I have a couple of those that came with a two of my early Mausers. Monty
There are a LOT of variables there, maker, provenance, old style, new style, scabbard, etc.. Surprised you didn't jump on this one earlier, Monty, you are "the man" with military relics. Which is why ANYTHING like that should be evaluated by a subject matter expert. I just use my photographic memory and then look it up in books....  |
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Sand Springs, OK
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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Nov 09, 2009, 10:56:48 AM |
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A lot of things are sold on ebay at inflated prices. I have all the bayonets I need and I even use a '93 Mauser bayonet to dig with some times. It is a little long and unweildy but if I am in a rough neighborhood it keeps the baddies at bay just having it. Even at the true value of those bayonets, you got a good deal. Monty
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North Carolina
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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Nov 09, 2009, 11:20:09 AM |
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Jesus Christ, do you guys have like an alarm that goes off alerting you or something? I walked over to the bookshelf and when I got back, there were three replies. M1898 made by Simpson & Co. in 1905 or 6. for the mauser 1898. Edit: Yours in on this page: http://www.gotavapen.se/gota/artiklar/98bayonets/98bayonets1.htmIs the wood one piece or two pieces? One piece is old Pattern (a.A.) and a two piece is new Pattern (n.A.) lol |
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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Nov 09, 2009, 11:35:32 AM |
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To dig or not to dig.....that is the question!!
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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Nov 09, 2009, 12:44:07 PM |
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Awesome link, thanks.. Interestingly enough, I was watching "pawn stars" on the history channel last night a guy brought in a 98/05 "butcher blade" and I kinda laughed because THIS page was on my laptop in front of me.  |
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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Nov 09, 2009, 07:17:09 PM |
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A lot of things are sold on ebay at inflated prices. I have all the bayonets I need and I even use a '93 Mauser bayonet to dig with some times. It is a little long and unweildy but if I am in a rough neighborhood it keeps the baddies at bay just having it. Even at the true value of those bayonets, you got a good deal. Monty
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