Civil War Bullets & Some "strange" ID help please.

[Good Evenin' Today's hunt was nice because the weather was perfect. We went to an area between a cemetery and CW training camp. Below are a few of the knowns & unknows. The most interesting pieces are the COPPER STRAPS; could these have gone across the chest to hold a drum or flag staff? The REED PLATE is marked F#, but I don't know if it came from an accordian or some type of calliope. It was located only feet from the cemetery entrance. The 2 iron domes, which look like they could be a 'mini bra for Brunhilda,' lol were found together. I am totally clueless on these. All help, thoughts, and ideas are appreciated. Breezie]

Good Evenin'  Today's hunt was nice because the weather was perfect.  We went to an area between a  cemetery and CW training camp.  Below are a few of the knowns & unknows.  The most interesting pieces are the COPPER STRAPS; could these have gone across the chest to hold a drum or flag staff?  The REED PLATE is marked F#, but I don't know if it came from an accordian or some type of calliope.  It was located only feet from the cemetery entrance.  The 2 iron domes, which  look like they could be a 'mini bra for Brunhilda,' lol were found together. I am totally clueless on these.  All help, thoughts, and ideas are appreciated.    Breezie

The dome thing is more than likely an early doorbell. The thick bendable thingy resembles a strike plate for a door latch

Thing with wires is a "buzzer' of some sort.

[Any clue on the date?]

Thing with wires is a "buzzer' of some sort.

Any clue on the date?

The copper pieces look like gaskets.

The copper pieces look like gaskets.

Ah bunch of new goodies!   The second item is definitely a copper manifold head gasket section broke off. Ive replaced them but dont remember from what.

[BCH, Were these manifold head gaskets all copper or did they have a pasteboard on the back or sandwiched inside?]

The second item is definitely a copper manifold head gasket section broke off. Ive replaced them but dont remember from what.

BCH, Were these manifold head gaskets all copper or did they have a pasteboard on the back or sandwiched inside? 

[BCH, Were these manifold head gaskets all copper or did they have a pasteboard on the back or sandwiched inside?]

The second item is definitely a copper manifold head gasket section broke off. Ive replaced them but dont remember from what.

BCH, Were these manifold head gaskets all copper or did they have a pasteboard on the back or sandwiched inside?  

Im referring only to the second pic. Some were solid copper. Im looking for a pic. It may be from a 6 cylinder. I can see the little bent tab to help hold it in place. You probably have the car this goes on but I cant find a good pic of one in copper.

The reed valve looks like from a pump organ.  We had a good discussion on these here. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,269668.0.html

[I'm not so sure it is a head gasket. Check out the back view, and let me know if you think. TYPO: "Slit" not "Slip" on the photo. Thanks for the link to the Reed Organ. The reed on accordians look almost the same to me. ;DBreezie]

Im referring only to the second pic. Some were solid copper. Im looking for a pic. It may be from a 6 cylinder. I can see the little bent tab to help hold it in place. You probably have the car this goes on but I cant find a good pic of one in copper.

I'm not so sure it is a head gasket.  Check out the back view, and let me know if you think. TYPO: "Slit" not "Slip" on the photo. Thanks for the link to the Reed Organ.  The reed on accordians look almost the same to me.   ;DBreezie

I cant say for 100 percent but it looks like a copper cylinder head manifold gasket to me. Yes the bent tab or lip appears to be to hold it in place until the mechanic can insert the bolts as you use no sealant with copper head gaskets..  They were/are made of copper to take the high heat.  The only part is that I dont remember seeing a lip like yours has. Im sure a mechanic will chime in and help.

After seeing the closeup, i retract my door strike guess and cheerfully change it to.....gasket

After seeing the closeup, i retract my door strike guess and cheerfully change it to.....gasket

It does kinda look like a strike with the bent up piece.  But Im thinking gasket.

[Any clue on the date?]

Thing with wires is a "buzzer' of some sort.

Any clue on the date?

I would say, unfortunately, it could be a large period. (you keep FINDING this stuff, lol, sorry)
I would say 1940s to around 1960s...

[I just sent the pics to a buddy of mine who builds classic cars. He takes them from barn finds into show cars. We'll add his opinion in the hat. Any thoughts on the buzzer looking thingie?]

I just sent the pics to a buddy of mine who builds classic cars.  He takes them from barn finds into show cars.  We'll add his opinion in the hat.  Any thoughts on the buzzer looking thingie?

I was going to say gaskets on the copper pieces too. On the bullets. the first one could be a 3 ring mini or  a Williams cleaner with the pedestal gone. The 2nd is an Enfield. could have a letter or number in the base and the 3rd looks  like a confederate Gardner.  If a sharps has a cavity it will be a small shallow one, a gardner will have a good sized deep cavity.

I dont think the first item is a gasket. The edges are folded and may be soldered for strength possibly for a strap of some kind.   Its probably folded over leather and not cardboard. Suspenders?

I say gasket also, intake or exhaust maybe, instead of buzzer it may be a temperature gauge off an engine

Any thoughts on the buzzer looking thingie?

Early doorbell.

im thinking the rusty thing with the coiled copper in it,
is an old thermo-coupler.
most likely from a steam/boiler or furnace.
orrrrrrrrrrr, manual sending unit for oil pressure or engine temp from an older engine.

i agree that it may be  a thermostat, maybe even for an old car, maybe the same one the exhaust manifold gasket came from.

couldn't have been for electricity because it would not work.

I agree about the manifold gasket.  Some were solid copper but some were sandwiched with some kind of cardboard or fiber looking parts, perhaps asbestos?   Looks like someone where you hunt did a lot of work on cars at times.  Monty

couldn't have been for electricity because it would not work.

that is incorrect.
It is a two part normally open circuit that was joined when the coils were touching, this is accomplished by pushing it.
http://www.historichomehardware.com/store/doorbells-c-3.html

It's down the page a ways...

couldn't have been for electricity because it would not work.

that is incorrect.
It is a two part normally open circuit that was joined when the coils were touching, this is accomplished by pushing it.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.historichomehardware.com/store/bmz_cache/4/4fefad5eada4b9081cf8a365574cd46a.image.150x150.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.historichomehardware.com/store/doorbells-c-3.html&usg=__exVFQ-w2_9gyENkL88jFC2SYcPM=&h=150&w=150&sz=6&hl=en&start=16&um=1&tbnid=ptaYKXk_lx3R3M:&tbnh=96&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpush%2Bbutton%2Bvintage%2Bbuzzer%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

ah good eye

couldn't have been for electricity because it would not work.

that is incorrect.
It is a two part normally open circuit that was joined when the coils were touching, this is accomplished by pushing it.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.historichomehardware.com/store/bmz_cache/4/4fefad5eada4b9081cf8a365574cd46a.image.150x150.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.historichomehardware.com/store/doorbells-c-3.html&usg=__exVFQ-w2_9gyENkL88jFC2SYcPM=&h=150&w=150&sz=6&hl=en&start=16&um=1&tbnid=ptaYKXk_lx3R3M:&tbnh=96&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpush%2Bbutton%2Bvintage%2Bbuzzer%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

ah good eye

I'm not SO smart, I'm just autistic...

I dont see why a door bell switch would have coils when a simple contact would do.

I dont see why a door bell switch would have coils when a simple contact would do.

I agree not a door bell button. You can clearly see the copper wire coil. It may have broken off off of one side. Looks more like a relay, not a push button switch. Unless its a combination button/transformer to reduce voltage but I have never seen one this way. The transformer is usually away from the button to prevent shock.  It could be an automotive sensing unit.

I dont see why a door bell switch would have coils when a simple contact would do.

I agree not a door bell button. You can clearly see the copper wire coil. It may have broken off off of one side. Looks more like a relay, not a push button switch. Unless its a combination button/transformer to reduce voltage but I have never seen one this way. The transformer is usually away from the button to prevent shock.  It could be an automotive sensing unit.

Early doorbell/buzzer/chimes were line voltage.

A much simpler day and time.

Possibly,  but what taz is saying is there is no need for a coil on a simple push button switch. You can clearly see the remains of a copper coil. But for what is the question.

A coil is to step up or step down voltage or for a relay. Not for a simple contact button.

I could be wrong but I dont think a coil would be used for a manual push button contact. Heres a little reading on electrical coils. It appears to be a single coil such as in a sending unit or electromagnetic relay.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coil

Possibly,  but what taz is saying is there is no need for a coil on a simple push button switch. You can clearly see the remains of a copper coil. But for what is the question.

A coil is to step up or step down voltage or for a relay. Not for a simple contact button.

I could be wrong but I dont think a coil would be used for a manual push button contact. Heres a little reading on electrical coils. It appears to be a single coil such as in a sending unit or electromagnetic relay.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coil

The copper winding pulls or pushes the plunger, that in turn strikes the outer dome that was dug with it. As you can see, it is a two part implament.

Possibly,  but what taz is saying is there is no need for a coil on a simple push button switch. You can clearly see the remains of a copper coil. But for what is the question.

A coil is to step up or step down voltage or for a relay. Not for a simple contact button.

I could be wrong but I dont think a coil would be used for a manual push button contact. Heres a little reading on electrical coils. It appears to be a single coil such as in a sending unit or electromagnetic relay.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coil

Unless it is the spring to return the switch to the open position.

maybe its the bell part of the doorbell system

Unless it is the spring to return the switch to the open position.

I thought about it being a spring but it appears to be copper. Most springs are steel. Copper is too soft and bendable to spring back.

Help me out here taz42o lol.

Possibly,  but what taz is saying is there is no need for a coil on a simple push button switch. You can clearly see the remains of a copper coil. But for what is the question.

A coil is to step up or step down voltage or for a relay. Not for a simple contact button.

I could be wrong but I dont think a coil would be used for a manual push button contact. Heres a little reading on electrical coils. It appears to be a single coil such as in a sending unit or electromagnetic relay.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coil

The copper winding pulls or pushes the plunger, that in turn strikes the outer dome that was dug with it. As you can see, it is a two part implament.

Yes I said that it may be an electro magnetic relay that you are describing  ...NOT a manual push button. I am glad you agree.        

Could it be an electric bell or buzzer?

Possibly,  but what taz is saying is there is no need for a coil on a simple push button switch. You can clearly see the remains of a copper coil. But for what is the question.

A coil is to step up or step down voltage or for a relay. Not for a simple contact button.

I could be wrong but I dont think a coil would be used for a manual push button contact. Heres a little reading on electrical coils. It appears to be a single coil such as in a sending unit or electromagnetic relay.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coil

The copper winding pulls or pushes the plunger, that in turn strikes the outer dome that was dug with it. As you can see, it is a two part implament.

Yes I said that it may be an electro magnetic relay that you are describing  ...NOT a manual push button. I am glad you agree.

I've described a solenoid...not a relay 

[IS NOT A MANUAL PUSH BUTTON SWITCH!!]

I've described a solenoid...not a relay  

a solenoid is basically a relay lol  ...we dont need to split hairs my good friend.

The point here is that they both utilize an electromagnetic coil and IS NOT A MANUAL PUSH BUTTON SWITCH!!  

(Im not shouting just trying to make a point)   (sorry)



ADDED: I think you never said it was a door bell push button, but somebody did,  so we are in agreement and maybe my bad. Im watching football at the same time here. An electromagnetic solenoid relay does not equal a push button switch..  The push button switch that goes with this supposed solenoid bell/buzzer would be at another location. You may be correct SWR that this is an electromagnetic plunger type solenoid buzzer/bell. And the two halves go together. The wires attach to the outside connections, one side broken.

Bullet IDs:

1.  Common .54 Minie Ball
2.  "Ramrod" Enfield
3.  Sharps