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It started out as a very poor hunt. I just spent 21 hours with baby when wife gave me a break and insisted that I go out and do some detecting. I only had a couple hours so I could not go far so I headed over to the ArrowHead Field to try my luck there. I spent maybe 20 minutes in the plow zone and started to get frustrated so I switched over to a mowed hay field. I had been on this field before but decided I was going to grid the entire field and hope for a stray. I knew there wasn't a site in this area but it has been a farmed field for over 300 years so a decent stray is always possible.
My first target was a 1978 clad dime...not a good start. After another hour of gridding without so much as a single target I found a musketball...a little better. By this time I had been detecting for 2 hours and only managed a musketball. I continued for another 45 minutes only finding scrap pieces of lead but nothing more. It was getting close to supper so it was time to head home. I left the hay field and decided to swing my way back up the plowed ArrowHead Field. I was seeing a lot of flint and quartz but no points. I was halfway back up the field heading to the car when I got a scratchy signal. I turned the dirt and saw what I thought was another dime. When I picked it up I knew it wasn't a dime...it was too thin. I rinsed the soil off in a puddle and saw that whatever it was it was misstruck...but I knew it was French!
When i got home I checked it out with the loupe and verified that it was a colonial French coin dating from the 1600s! The date is cut off due to being misstruck but I can still see 16 below the monarch. I'm not even sure what coin it is but I know that Iron Patch will very quickly ID it for me!
Thanks for looking.
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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 01:26:43 pm |
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Holy crap Romeo. Unbelievable. You da man.  Chris |
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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 01:27:12 pm |
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Nice one! French 4 Sols (Circa. 1691-1700) Rouen mint.
Thanks...are there any key dates from those dates? If so than that is what this one is!  |
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 01:28:24 pm |
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Holy crap Romeo. Unbelievable. You da man. Chris Thanks Chris! Almost the find that wasn't! I almost didn't go back through the plowed field! |
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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 01:28:36 pm |
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Nice one! French 4 Sols (Circa. 1691-1700) Rouen mint.
Thanks...are there any key dates from those dates? If so than that is what this one is! No, just key drunks striking them.  |
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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 01:34:01 pm |
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Nice one! French 4 Sols (Circa. 1691-1700) Rouen mint.
Thanks...are there any key dates from those dates? If so than that is what this one is! No, just key drunks striking them. Yeah, no kidding! Not much quality control in Rouen!  |
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 01:41:44 pm |
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SUPER FIND ROMEO-1  1600's anything is GREAT IN MY BOOK!  I KEEP these guy's on stand bye for these occasions!  Nice Buddy,TK I hope I don't jinks you! |
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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 01:44:49 pm |
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OH My! What a shame Romeo, just looked it up, yours is 1700!!! LOL JUST KIDDIN~~ Congrats on getting a very old silver in decent condition and one that is not seen too often I would think..................  Don |
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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 01:51:03 pm |
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OH My! What a shame Romeo, just looked it up, yours is 1700!!! LOL JUST KIDDIN~~ Congrats on getting a very old silver in decent condition and one that is not seen too often I would think.................. Don I haven't seen one but sure spent enough time in places that could have one! Will be at another in the next week or so to try some more. |
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 01:53:21 pm |
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OH My! What a shame Romeo, just looked it up, yours is 1700!!! LOL JUST KIDDIN~~ Congrats on getting a very old silver in decent condition and one that is not seen too often I would think.................. Don I haven't seen one but sure spent enough time in places that could have one! Will be at another in the next week or so to try some more. Clean out your inbox...I'm trying to send you a PM... |
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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 01:59:02 pm |
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Nice Save on the Frenchy  |
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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 02:00:30 pm |
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Now that is a very cool looking coin, another to add to my list  |
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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 02:01:13 pm |
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OLD silver I cant imaging scratching THAT off my wish list !! Very nice for sure !! VPR |
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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 02:24:28 pm |
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Det vi vet er så uendelig lite mot det som har hendt. Arkeologen er som den som går langs en strand og finner småtterier, skyllet i land fra et forsvunnet skib. Men selve skibet som gikk i dypet med menneskene får han aldri se.
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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 02:31:53 pm |
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Holy wonkers, Patrick, you showed Iron Patch how it is done. Patch is too busy looking for crumbly pewter buttons. That French silver is what keeps a passion alive. Kirk |
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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 02:40:39 pm |
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Way to go romeo, you got yourself a beauty!. Finding an old silver like that would make me think that it was more than just a stray. Or just maybe their is a small site somewhere in the area. Too bad you got skunked on finding a good point, but i'd say the silver more than made up for it.
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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 02:43:15 pm |
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very impressive!
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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 02:43:54 pm |
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sweet old coin!!!
you must have a old Acadian site nearby, it's rattling when you find the scraps but not the site, it's gotta be close...good luck!!
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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 02:54:58 pm |
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Your like Copperfield that I saw last week...pulled that one from your A$$... your luck just doesn't seem to let up... Congrats buddy well deserved....Still looking to break into the 1600's myself..... |
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Reply To This Topic #22 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 03:26:40 pm |
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Amazing, Romeo, simply amazing. Keep on showing Iron Patch what a real digger digs.  |
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Reply To This Topic #23 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 03:33:21 pm |
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WOW!!! Awesome silver! Congrats
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Reply To This Topic #24 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 04:56:03 pm |
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Holy wonkers, Patrick, you showed Iron Patch how it is done. Patch is too busy looking for crumbly pewter buttons. That French silver is what keeps a passion alive. Kirk The Iron Bros will be out on Monday and if the research is right we'll be on a site that could have a coin just like that. Cobs are more likely though. ....but I would rather a site with early pewter military. Having the best of both worlds like our last site would be the best case scenario. So tune in Monday night to see the Iron Bros go up 2 hunts to nothing. |
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Reply To This Topic #25 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 04:57:22 pm |
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Must feel good to hit that 1600 recoveries!
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Reply To This Topic #26 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 05:05:38 pm |
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sweet old coin!!!
you must have a old Acadian site nearby, it's rattling when you find the scraps but not the site, it's gotta be close...good luck!!
I'll be down your way in a couple of weeks or so, keep the ground thawed for me
It's a strange area...in the heart of old French and Planters but as far as I can find there is no site in this immediate area. It is farm fields which had been dyked by the French in the 1600s. The only reason I go back here is to look for strays...just like this one. Let me know when you're in the area and I'll try to secure a hunt or two. |
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Reply To This Topic #27 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 09:06:52 pm |
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Holy wonkers, Patrick, you showed Iron Patch how it is done. Patch is too busy looking for crumbly pewter buttons. That French silver is what keeps a passion alive. Kirk The Iron Bros will be out on Monday and if the research is right we'll be on a site that could have a coin just like that. Cobs are more likely though. ....but I would rather a site with early pewter military. Having the best of both worlds like our last site would be the best case scenario. So tune in Monday night to see the Iron Bros go up 2 hunts to nothing. I'll be there...tuning in that is! |
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Reply To This Topic #28 Posted Nov 07, 2009, 10:18:53 pm |
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That is a great find indeed and it will be a proud addition up on the banner by noon tomorrow.
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Reply To This Topic #29 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 02:25:03 pm |
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I did a little non-obtrusive cleaning today on the 1690s silver I found yesterday. I cut the cleaning off after I could easily make out the details...don't want this one too shiny. Into a two by two now!
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Reply To This Topic #30 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 02:43:06 pm |
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Lookin good, that coin has character, with the off center strike and good details showing!  Don |
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Reply To This Topic #31 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 02:47:36 pm |
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 Loverly looking coin so are these coins hammered(not milled)  I see the off centre  if so Colonial hammered SS
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Reply To This Topic #32 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 02:56:50 pm |
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You got a bit lucky Romeo, and I can't tell you the year, but can tell you the two year period it was minted. 1691 or 1692. At least it's as old as it can be for that particular type of coin! |
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Reply To This Topic #33 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 02:57:35 pm |
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Loverly looking coin so are these coins hammered(not milled) I see the off centre if so Colonial hammered SS Struck, and often times over the previous issue. |
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Reply To This Topic #34 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 03:00:47 pm |
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You got a bit lucky Romeo, and I can't tell you the year, but can tell you the two year period it was minted. 1691 or 1692. At least it's as old as it can be for that particular type of coin! Which would make it quite scarse then SS |
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Reply To This Topic #35 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 03:02:30 pm |
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Very good.
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Reply To This Topic #36 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 03:03:57 pm |
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You got a bit lucky Romeo, and I can't tell you the year, but can tell you the two year period it was minted. 1691 or 1692. At least it's as old as it can be for that particular type of coin! Which would make it quite scarse then SS No, most of the .80 silver 4 or 5 sols from that period seem to be pretty common. The 2 sols from 1738-1762 are the ones which rely quite a bit on the mint mark. The difference in value can easily be $1,000 for a common mint, to a rare one. There's no books I know of that go into prices by variety, ones that are accurate anyway. |
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Reply To This Topic #37 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 03:07:19 pm |
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You got a bit lucky Romeo, and I can't tell you the year, but can tell you the two year period it was minted. 1691 or 1692. At least it's as old as it can be for that particular type of coin! Which would make it quite scarse then SS No, most of the .80 silver 4 or 5 sols from that period seem to be pretty common. The 2 sols from 1738-1762 are the ones which reply quite a bit on the mint mark. The difference in value can easily be $1,000 for a common mint, to a rare one. Just seems strange for a coin that was only minted for that short a period, that it is not a rare coin  thanks for the imfo SS |
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Reply To This Topic #38 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 03:08:48 pm |
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BTW.... after shots look good. Just getting the remaining dirt and thinning out the film of corrosion a little makes a difference.
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Reply To This Topic #39 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 03:10:01 pm |
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You got a bit lucky Romeo, and I can't tell you the year, but can tell you the two year period it was minted. 1691 or 1692. At least it's as old as it can be for that particular type of coin! Which would make it quite scarse then SS No, most of the .80 silver 4 or 5 sols from that period seem to be pretty common. The 2 sols from 1738-1762 are the ones which reply quite a bit on the mint mark. The difference in value can easily be $1,000 for a common mint, to a rare one. Just seems strange for a coin that was only minted for that short a period, that it is not a rare coin thanks for the imfo SS They obviously really pumped them out. Perhaps that's the reason they only made them two years, it was enough. |
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Reply To This Topic #40 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 03:27:58 pm |
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You got a bit lucky Romeo, and I can't tell you the year, but can tell you the two year period it was minted. 1691 or 1692. At least it's as old as it can be for that particular type of coin! Great! That makes it officially my oldest coin dug...te previous being a 1694 William and Mary copper! |
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Reply To This Topic #41 Posted Nov 08, 2009, 03:30:28 pm |
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You got a bit lucky Romeo, and I can't tell you the year, but can tell you the two year period it was minted. 1691 or 1692. At least it's as old as it can be for that particular type of coin! Great! That makes it officially my oldest coin dug...te previous being a 1694 William and Mary copper! Well I'm happy to know I still have you beat! That's starting to mean more and more as the years go on. (cuz you're crossing too many off the list too soon!) |
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You got a bit lucky Romeo, and I can't tell you the year, but can tell you the two year period it was minted. 1691 or 1692. At least it's as old as it can be for that particular type of coin! Great! That makes it officially my oldest coin dug...te previous being a 1694 William and Mary copper! Well I'm happy to know I still have you beat! That's starting to mean more and more as the years go on. (cuz you're crossing too many off the list too soon!) What's your oldest...cob? |
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Reply To This Topic #43 Posted Nov 09, 2009, 02:07:58 pm |
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You got a bit lucky Romeo, and I can't tell you the year, but can tell you the two year period it was minted. 1691 or 1692. At least it's as old as it can be for that particular type of coin! Great! That makes it officially my oldest coin dug...te previous being a 1694 William and Mary copper! Well I'm happy to know I still have you beat! That's starting to mean more and more as the years go on. (cuz you're crossing too many off the list too soon!) What's your oldest...cob? That I can read a date, was the last one, 1696. |
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Reply To This Topic #44 Posted Nov 09, 2009, 02:12:08 pm |
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Really nice find Romeo! It looks like it was already deep in the ground when the Rev War was being fought!
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Reply To This Topic #46 Posted Nov 10, 2009, 08:40:39 pm |
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that coin went from great looking to plain beautiful !!!
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Reply To This Topic #47 Posted Nov 10, 2009, 09:20:03 pm |
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WOW, that find would make my whole year!
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Reply To This Topic #48 Posted Nov 10, 2009, 10:38:36 pm |
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that coin went from great looking to plain beautiful !!!
Thanks! Since the original update I actually gave it one more (and final) restorative cleaning and posted those pics. NOW I'm happy with the results and on display it goes! |
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Wow. That is a great find.
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