Eagle I Button CW or Post ?

   I found this Eagle I button today at a farmhouse thats on the
1862 Atlas   I do know it's an infantry button with out the shank
There are no words on the back only a "design" on the inner circle.
It's 16mm wide so i assume it's a cuff button  A wreath on one side
and 3 arrows on the other. What i'd like to know is .... is it CW or post
CW ?  And can the maker be identified by the design on the back ?
I hope you can see the front good enough, it was dusk by the time
i took these pic's
  

  

   thanks for looking   and any info you can provide me    Mike

Looks like words on the back.

Nice find Mike. Civil War Infantry (horstmann I believe..can't quite read it)

  bigcypresshunter   i thought i saw words too after a toothbrush and water
rinse  seemed to me it was just a film of dirt (that looked like words) flaking
off  then i made my reply back to you and clicked POST an i got a warning
someone else( johnnyi ) replied while i was posting  sooo, i looked again and
it did look like horstmann  sooo, i did the Buckle Boy technique with a skewer
and like me    i over did it    my user name oughta be  "the destroyer"
  johnnyi  i'm sure you are right saying Horstmann ....... ?
i blame the soil here    but, i know too   it was my having no patience when
i make a find like this  i should've waited till tomorrow and took a
good look at it first
  
see what i mean  i over did it     maybe i can get a better photo tomorrow
when the suns out ?

          thanks for trying to help me out Big Cy and johnnyi

Sometimes you can take your the oil from your own skin and lightly rub the back of the button and it will darken the metal around the stamped words making them more easy to read.  Rub light though.

the arched top of the sheild helps in dating it somewhat as well --later era buttons had a flat top design on the sheild .

I dont think its ruined. There appears to be too many letters for Horstmann alone but I see clearly an "N". It usually also says PHILA but I dont see it. ...unless the N is an A.

I dont think its ruined. There appears to be too many letters for Horstmann alone but I see clearly an "N". It usually also says PHILA but I dont see it. ...unless the N is an A.

Good eye, BCH! 
Looks like a c. 1860-65 "Horstmann & Allien / NY" backmark.

http://www.relicman.com/buttons/imagesbuttons/B5037B.JPG

Sometimes you can take your the oil from your own skin and lightly rub the back of the button and it will darken the metal around the stamped words making them more easy to read.  Rub light though.

   thanks 72cheyenne  i did read that tip previously here   thanks Mike

the arched top of the sheild helps in dating it somewhat as well --later era buttons had a flat top design on the sheild .

   ivan  i do have Albert's button book  by looking at that it's a 2 piece button
i've been looking at the leaves and none of them match the ones in Albert's 

           thanks for the reply   Mike

I dont think its ruined. There appears to be too many letters for Horstmann alone but I see clearly an "N". It usually also says PHILA but I dont see it. ...unless the N is an A.

Good eye, BCH! 
Looks like a c. 1860-65 "Horstmann & Allien / NY" backmark.

http://www.relicman.com/buttons/imagesbuttons/B5037B.JPG

you guys got it. We always called that  the Hortsmann mark with the rays because rays or spokes coming out from the shank.

I dont think its ruined. There appears to be too many letters for Horstmann alone but I see clearly an "N". It usually also says PHILA but I dont see it. ...unless the N is an A.

   Big Cy  i do see an H and a faint orstmann  could be H Horstmann and at the end an N
 like you see
    I was looking at CW backmarks  and the only thing that ends in N is  H Horstmann & Allien
i'll have to take a better look at it tomorrow

                thanks for your help    Mike

with the rays on the back-- a (H) orstmanm & alle (N )-- eagle I  cw era button is a fair bet.

big cy for the win --pbk --for the photo proof .

I dont think its ruined. There appears to be too many letters for Horstmann alone but I see clearly an "N". It usually also says PHILA but I dont see it. ...unless the N is an A.

Good eye, BCH! 
Looks like a c. 1860-65 "Horstmann & Allien / NY" backmark.

http://www.relicman.com/buttons/imagesbuttons/B5037B.JPG

    WOW, im truly suprised    Thanks much for the photo and the link PBK  
looks like a perfect match to me  i gotta learn to just sit back and think before i attempt
to clean my buttons

    BCH, johnnyi, PBK, and everyone else thanks for the help on this  
it's time for a check mark

with the rays on the back-- a (H) orstmanm & alle (N )-- eagle I  cw era button is a fair bet.

     i agree ivan   i'm gonna mark it solved  thanks for your help    Mike

PBK got it.