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Posted Nov 19, 2009, 10:32:09 am

I saw this ad on Craigs List, and after a while I realized something does not make sense...Can you tell me what it is?

old coins

Date: 2009-11-17, 10:12AM EST


I have a 1799 half cent in excellent condition. you can read everything on coin and has very little wear. I also have an 1868 us nickel in near mint condition. plus many foriegn coins dating from the late 1890's to the 1950's.. I am asking only 80 dollars on the 1799 half penny and 15 on the nickel. if you buy them i will through in all other coins for 50 bucks so a total of about 30 to 40 coins for 145.. or make me a reasonable offer. i have not looked up these coins they were found in an old bag in my basement. 1st com 1st get....


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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Nov 19, 2009, 10:51:10 am

there were no 1798 or 1799 half cent pieces made and no 1868 "nickles" in 1868 they were called half dimes --warning , warning scam alert !!!

 -- call em-- ask if he still got em first if he says yes , then say you'ld like to meet with him and "see them" in person --watch him hem and haw about how its not possible ,and how you could just mail him the cash and he'll mail em to ya --yada ,yada, yada

the guy is acting like a rube that found coins that doesn't know what their worth with poor spelling and all ---trying to sucker some greedy person into thinking they can take advantage of him.

any 1797 half cent even in very rough shape (AG-3) alone is worth at least $235 minimum and in good shape like he says  (say f -12 -- about $950)  

the 1868 half dime --he says "nickle" in G4 shape would be worth $55 --even a 1868S one in G4 would be worth $16

so if it were a AG3 shape 1797 half cent and a 1868 G4 half dime -- it would still red book at minimum 235 / 55 -- $290 -- which is double his $145 asking price ( with the foreign stuff thrown in free)

1st conned , first taken .
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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Nov 19, 2009, 11:33:12 am

there were no 1798 or 1799 half cent pieces made and no 1868 "nickles" in 1868 they were called half dimes --warning , warning scam alert !!!

 -- call em-- ask if he still got em first if he says yes , then say you'ld like to meet with him and "see them" in person --watch him hem and haw about how its not possible ,and how you could just mail him the cash and he'll mail em to ya --yada ,yada, yada

the guy is acting like a rube that found coins that doesn't know what their worth with poor spelling and all ---trying to sucker some greedy person into thinking they can take advantage of him.

any 1797 half cent even in very rough shape (AG-3) alone is worth at least $235 minimum and in good shape like he says  (say f -12 -- about $950)  

the 1868 half dime --he says "nickle" in G4 shape would be worth $55 --even a 1868S one in G4 would be worth $16

so if it were a AG3 shape 1797 half cent and a 1868 G4 half dime -- it would still red book at minimum 235 / 55 -- $290 -- which is double his $145 asking price ( with the foreign stuff thrown in free)

1st conned , first taken .

You win the prize!!  Good eye!  I only caught it after looking up the coins in my Red Book!

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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Nov 19, 2009, 11:43:45 am

one error I might think rube got the wrong date --but with a dual error wrong date 1799 on the half cent and then wrong type 1868 "nickle" instead of "half dime " --- if in good shape as he says words "half dime" should be easily visible -- red flag

still check and see "in person"-- could be a totally messed up rube -- if the coins are a 1797 or before half cent and a 1868 half dime in decent shape their well worth $145
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Nov 19, 2009, 11:57:21 am

You might want to check that nickel thing again. The shield nickel was produced from 1866 until it was replaced by the V nickel in 1883.

Ask for pictures...especially of the barely worn half cent that doesn't exist...unless it's foreign?

Don't dismiss everything out of hand as a scam....use due diligence and protect yourself....but if you're in the area...it might just be worth a look.

If you can't meet at a police station or some public place.....keep your money.

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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Nov 19, 2009, 12:04:49 pm

IF Unimformed
It could be a 1799 King George Half Penny.

Penny & Cent are the same thing here

and he dosn't say us till the nickel

and adds he has "many foriegn coins"

http://www.google.com/search?q=%221...F-8&startIndex=&startPage=1


1868 shield nickels exist

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_value_of_an_1868_US_Nickel


Over Priced Yes.
Wishfull Thinking on his part I Believe



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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Nov 19, 2009, 12:08:03 pm

opps my bad they did make the sheild nickle * in 1868 in G4 worth $20- as well as the 1868 half dime --still the 1799 half cent did not exist in the us ( now a foreign say british 1799 half penny is possible)--us money cents --british penny

I note the second time he says 1799 "half penny" * if so its british then -- at best about $45 --most likey

the 1868 us sheild nickle at $15 could be worth while . 
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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Nov 19, 2009, 12:14:04 pm

for the Record, I Once found an
AG 1795 lettered edge large cent
in a Box of Tokens & Foreign Coins
at a Yard sale.
When I Asked how much, I Believe he charged me
a Dollar for a Hand Full.

Point is Yes he Over priced the 1799

But May have Missed something in the Pile.
(Gold, Silvers)

I would want to be Close enough to
Inspect all, & Make a Counter Offer Though.

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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Nov 19, 2009, 12:19:24 pm

uh a AG lettered edge 1795 half cent at 210 to 280 for a buck --what a steal --for that I buy the whole box of tokens

I too would want to see the coins in hand
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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Nov 19, 2009, 12:23:32 pm

uh a AG lettered edge 1795 half cent at 210 to 280 for a buck --what a steal --for that I buy the whole box of tokens

"Large Cent."

A local Dealer paid me $100. Cash for it
And I got between $5.00 & $60.00
apiece on EBay by letting
My Brother Sell the Tokens.

My Best Yard Sale Find Ever

& The Guy was / Is an Antique Collector.

Still waiting for his Next Yard sale to get the whole box  tongue3


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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Nov 19, 2009, 12:30:03 pm

you are kidding me right you mean to tell me you did not just buy the whole box then ? 1795 large cent lettered edge AG3 books at 140 minimum

and you say he was a "antique" dealer (clearly he did not know coins)--what was he selling stuff off for a life or death operation or what?

jeez oh petes --wheres a yard sell like that when I go looking?

at a buck a handful --those puppies would be gone --had I seen em
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Nov 19, 2009, 12:38:36 pm

you are kidding me right? 1795 large cent lettered edge AG3 books at 140 minimum

and you say he was a "antique" dealer (clearly he did not know coins)--what was he selling stuff off for a life or death operation or what?

jeez oh petes --wheres a yard sell like that when I go looking?

The Coin was almost a Slug
 the Letterd Edge was Clear, This is what Caught my Eye.
I Had to spray it with Spray Lube & Hold it just right
to see Detail on the Face. When I Told
the Dealer How I could tell the year he Didn't hesitate.
He looked at his Buying Prices & Agreed to my $100.00
Price. Couldn't Argue. This was a few years ago.
3 maybe 4.

the yard saler, Wasn't a Dealer but Recently started Liquidating
his Collection to get money to restore an antique Car.

Had several auctions Since one Highly Publicized.


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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Nov 19, 2009, 12:55:09 pm

good eye --been known to keep a "sharp" eye peeled myself -got a gold gilted dish set in perfect "unused" shape--- set of 5 small fruit / cereal bowls , 5 dinner plates , 2 large type rimmed "soup bowls" and 2 meat / serving platters for $5  that books out at "replacements" china website for $195 in value -- the meat platters run 32 each alone
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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Nov 19, 2009, 12:58:15 pm

COOL !

IF You don't look You just never Know
what may have been Missed by a seller.

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