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1897 Loeber Token Maker? Help to Identify

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Posted Nov 19, 2009, 07:58:56 pm

Hi I purchased this at a yard sale and was told it is a token maker. The item is marked Loeber Mfg Co pat March 23 97, Clev O. Its all metal and you can see the mold inside for a token which I can't get a picture of. Any info would be appreciated. Thank you
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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Nov 19, 2009, 09:46:33 pm

Can you retake that bottom photo and get the focus sharper?
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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Nov 20, 2009, 10:04:17 am

Throw a wad of aluminum foil in there, compress it and see what it makes...
Just a suggestion...
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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Nov 20, 2009, 04:08:21 pm

Could you take a picture of the patent?  ...and something for size reference please.
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Nov 20, 2009, 04:22:09 pm

welcome to the t'net. it also helps if you make your picture size smaller on you camera before you take a picture. 600x400 is way easier to load. those are some good pictures though

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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Nov 20, 2009, 05:09:19 pm

Hi Thank you - Im not sure how to make the pics smaller. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you
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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Nov 20, 2009, 05:38:09 pm

Here's a pic of O.E.Loeber's patent No. 579519 dated 3-23-1897--but it doesn't look spot on.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=ba...9&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html
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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Nov 20, 2009, 05:55:42 pm

Here's a pic of O.E.Loeber's patent No. 579519 dated 3-23-1897--but it doesn't look spot on.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=ba...9&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html
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That was one that I found too. Thats why I asked for a clear pic of the patent.  I will search again after I see the pic. icon_thumright
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Nov 20, 2009, 06:03:30 pm

Hi Thank you - Im not sure how to make the pics smaller. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you
Right click on your picture,
Click on "save picture as", (it will save in files).
Right click on same pic in your files,
Click on "open with" Paint, Irfanview or whatever photo editting you have.
Resize and crop.
Click "save as" in your files.
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Please retake the third pic is blurry. thanks. icon_thumright We have a test forum where you can experiment posting. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/board,198.0.html You have an interesting 1897 patented item. Looking forward to helping you but I need the pic of the writing. thanks.
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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Nov 20, 2009, 06:34:43 pm

you can try to put some silly putty or something to get the token image off

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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Nov 20, 2009, 07:10:00 pm

Looking at it again, it could be the broom handle extension that was made into something else. Undecided The basic part and thumbscrew match.  I just cant view the pics on my screen so is hard to visualize this thing.
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Nov 21, 2009, 06:55:58 pm

Hello thank you so much for your help. You are right we figured out by unscrewing the screw the top part comes off the token maker part. Then the handle is the broom stick one I am putting pictures on to show you. I really appreciate all the input. Now I just have to figure out the token maker.
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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Nov 21, 2009, 07:02:47 pm

Hello thank you so much for your help. You are right we figured out by unscrewing the screw the top part comes off the token maker part. Then the handle is the broom stick one I am putting pictures on to show you. I really appreciate all the input. Now I just have to figure out the token maker.
Really? It was just a wild guess lol. I am looking forward to seeing the pictures. If the pic comes out blurry like your third pic posted, just steady the camera and take another.
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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Nov 21, 2009, 07:08:00 pm

Hello thank you so much for your help. You are right we figured out by unscrewing the screw the top part comes off the token maker part. Then the handle is the broom stick one I am putting pictures on to show you. I really appreciate all the input. Now I just have to figure out the token maker.

So this is actually TWO different items?  A broom handle extension like shown in the patent....and a Token maker?  Is there a "DIE" in the token maker part, and if so, can you take some playdough or putty and make an impression of the "DIE"?

Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 11:14:42 am

I did the play dough and got an imprint it reads on one side - PROPERTY OF MACHINE LOANED and the other side GOOD FOR ONE FREE GAME. Thank you for helping me figure out what these things are.  icon_thumleft
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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 11:23:09 am

Anything like this?
http://tokencatalog.com/token_recor...tion_id=40941&td_create_uid=510

Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 11:37:00 am

The writing says Loeber Mfg Co , Clev. O the other side says Pat Mar 23, 97.
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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 11:39:28 am

The writing says Loeber Mfg Co , Clev. O the other side says Pat Mar 23, 97.
ok thanks.  Maybe someone stuck the token maker into the broom extension. dontknow
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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 12:37:32 pm

BCH:
Now that would be an interesting reapplication of the original product.
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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 02:57:49 pm

I dont understand how spring pressure could make a metal token and it doesnt look as if its hit by a hammer. It needs a press. Maybe something is missing.
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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 03:08:24 pm

Does it look anything like Macks link or this one?
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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 04:04:36 pm

maybe its magic

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Reply To This Topic #22 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 06:46:32 pm

It does look like the token, without the middle logo.
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Reply To This Topic #23 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 06:54:06 pm

It does look like the token, without the middle logo.
It would be cool if you could post a pic of the imprint. The more pics the better to help solve this mystery. What is the size of the token?

Does it pull open and snap back from the spring? icon_scratch  Does it look as if it can be hit with a hammer? Put a penny in it and see it it makes any marks. Maybe its a lead token maker. dontknow
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