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Pulltabs = Gold. Returned to owner 1946

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Posted Mar 28, 2009, 04:08:19 pm

Bergie found this coin at a very old colonial site the other day and cant identify it. Can anybody help us on this one.
Its 8 grams and 27mm in size.
Any help would be great.
Thanks,
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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Mar 28, 2009, 04:53:50 pm

Maybe New Jersey?
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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Mar 29, 2009, 02:53:48 am

Maybe New Jersey?

seems possible, I guess.

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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Mar 29, 2009, 04:03:41 am

I think the size of the shield without a doubt indicates it is a NJ copper. Congrats!!!

Don

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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Mar 29, 2009, 04:43:16 am

yup a NJ Copper! awesome!

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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Mar 29, 2009, 05:20:48 am

Bergie,  look at your coin carefully and see if you can determine exactly the alignments of the Dexter, Middle and Sinister points in relation to what letters they are closest to.  If you can see at least the location of the Dexter point in relation to the letter U I believe that is what I see, that it is closest to the U, if that is so, and if you can see more the letters above any of the other two points, then I think I have an ID, year and variety possibility.

If not, this photo is a good example of explaining the features of a NJ copper for anybody wanting to know.

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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Mar 29, 2009, 07:05:15 am

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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Mar 29, 2009, 07:12:44 am

Being quite coin ig no rant I am wondering if a find such as this is valuable?  I can barely make out some kind of design on the pictures at all, but apparently some of you coin people can see more into the pics than a layman like myself. Monty

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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Mar 29, 2009, 07:44:36 am

Being quite coin ig no rant I am wondering if a find such as this is valuable?  I can barely make out some kind of design on the pictures at all, but apparently some of you coin people can see more into the pics than a layman like myself. Monty

Basically, I would say even if this was a rare variety, which I am fairly certain it is not (almost have it ID'd) that in this condition it would not have any value to a NJ collector.  If it had some detail on the Obverse and was identifiable as a very rare varitety, then it would hold some value I am sure, but not like it is.  Again, we have no control over how the elements treat a copper that has been in the ground for perhaps 200 years.   Angry

But, for my circulation study and found by variety study, it is a very good  find. Smiley

Don

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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Mar 29, 2009, 07:52:45 am




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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Mar 29, 2009, 07:56:42 am

The line under the horse on the obverse is also visible.  Congrats on your NJ Copper!


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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Mar 30, 2009, 08:41:35 am

Ok, thanks.  I can understand that it is not just the value of such a coin.  Much like finding a Civil War bullet.  Hardly any value, yet a find that is memorable!  Congrats!  Monty

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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Mar 30, 2009, 09:43:12 am

Good find...Whatever you do, do not use electralysis, wire brush or any caustic solutions.

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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Nov 20, 2009, 12:44:54 am

Good find...Whatever you do, do not use electralysis, wire brush or any caustic solutions.
  but you can use 80 grit sand paper laughing9 laughing9  willy
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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Nov 23, 2009, 03:22:38 pm

WoW fellow TH'er hell of a find, shame that its all eatin up, if you had found it in its prime that coin could have brought you soemthing in the range $45,000-$100,000 that range depends on if it had Date Under Draw Bar, No Coulter... and the other range would have been around $900-$8.250 if it had Date Under Plow, No Coulter... If you wana do more looking up on the coin go to your local libary or walden books and pick up your self up The Offical Red Book A Guide Book Of United states Coins by R.S. Yeoman.....

again wow what a looker

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