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Posted Nov 22, 2009, 12:21:36 PM
Can you tell me what kind of Large Cent this is or Half Penny ? Maybe a date ? I have never seen one with this type lettering on it . Thanks Mark

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  • Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 12:22:16 PM
    British William III Halfpenny 1690s icon_thumright

    http://www.icollector.com/images/1204/15097/15097_0141_1_lg.jpg
    Similar one above

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    Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 12:34:38 PM
    So are you saying they didnt make this type in the 1700s if so this is my oldest coin yet .Thanks Mark
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  • Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 12:36:50 PM
    To further clarify on your coin, it is a Type 3 (Right hand on knee, date in exregue) and I think it looks like 1700 for a date.  Type 3 is 1699-1701 time frame.

    By the way, that is a lot of detail left on that copper for a William III, most are worn smooth or nearly smooth on the Reverse and Righthand side of Obverse usually worn away, so you got a good one for that series of Halfpence.

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  • Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 12:39:34 PM
    So are you saying they didnt make this type in the 1700s if so this is my oldest coin yet .Thanks Mark

    my mistake, I see the 1700 & the Britannia has right hand on knee.  I guessed the most likely (1695-98) & got it wrong.  So 1700 icon_thumright  This issue is 1699-1701.
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  • Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 12:41:27 PM
    To further clarify on your coin, it is a Type 3 (Right hand on knee, date in exregue) and I think it looks like 1700 for a date.  Type 3 is 1699-1701 time frame.

    By the way, that is a lot of detail left on that copper for a William III, most are worn smooth or nearly smooth on the Reverse and Righthand side of Obverse usually worn away, so you got a good one for that series of Halfpence.

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    yeah I wrote at the same time icon_thumright  Realised it was the later issue Cheesy
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    Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 12:44:51 PM
    Thanks for all the info you guys are on it . Mark  icon_thumright
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    Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 12:49:23 PM
    I swear the more i look at the date it looks like 1698 i know that out of the time frame but ? I will post more pics and see what you guys think
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    Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 01:04:35 PM
    It looks like 16?? tell me what you think Thanks Mark

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    Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 01:18:39 PM
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  • Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 01:44:00 PM
    New Pictures

    1699 then, start of the later type.  Got there eventually Cheesy
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  • Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 02:02:50 PM
     hello

    Nice find from your side of the water headbang 16?? all right icon_scratch I'm amazed at the dates given on something thats unlegable icon_scratch

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  • Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 02:08:29 PM
    hello

    Nice find from your side of the water headbang 16?? all right icon_scratch I'm amazed at the dates given on something thats unlegable icon_scratch

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    Its not the visibility of the date that gives it away, its the type (right hand on knee) which start in 1699.  As you say 16??, so has to be 1699, look carefully & you can see the tops of the 99 (look a bit like the 00 we thought we saw earlier).  The earlier type has right hand in air.
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  • Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 02:11:23 PM
    hello

    Nice find from your side of the water headbang 16?? all right icon_scratch I'm amazed at the dates given on something thats unlegable icon_scratch

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    The coin matches exactly a 1699 in my 1965 British Copper Coins Book.  The original photos hard to say, but the date looked more like 00 at the end, but it was said, that is a Type 3 reverse which only were dated 1699-1701.  The period immediately following the A in BRITTANIA also matches it being a 1699, the 1700 ones the period is further away. Smiley

    The photo I included shows the 3 Types of Reverses which help date the William III coppers....

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  • Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 02:14:18 PM
    hello

    Nice find from your side of the water headbang 16?? all right icon_scratch I'm amazed at the dates given on something thats unlegable icon_scratch

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    The coin matches exactly a 1699 in my 1965 British Copper Coins Book.  The original photos hard to say, but the date looked more like 00 at the end, but it was said, that is a Type 3 reverse which only were dated 1699-1701.  The period immediately following the A in BRITTANIA also matches it being a 1699, the 1700 ones the period is further away. Smiley

    The photo I included shows the 3 Types of Reverses which help date the William III coppers....

    That illustrates it better than my words icon_thumright
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  • Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 02:17:15 PM
    You just broken into the 1600s icon_thumright  Great achievement for the US (I believe) headbang
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  • Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 02:19:35 PM
    Ahhh yes books you can never have enough books Roll Eyes

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  • Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 02:23:33 PM
    Ahhh yes books you can never have enough books Roll Eyes

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    I know, I think my collectorholic nature means I need another book shelf Cheesy  Got to make room for CW Peck.
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    Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 02:46:22 PM
    Thanks for the picture and all the info . Mark
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  • Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 03:36:52 PM

      Yep, no doubt there.... 1699.  I've never dug a brit copper that old in which I could see the year.  Good one!  thumbsup

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    Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Nov 22, 2009, 03:45:50 PM
    looks like it says 18 to me dontknow

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