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Military Relic or Farm Relic ??

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Posted Nov 28, 2009, 03:40:40 pm

Hello, It is one piece cast Iron, except for the wingnut screw which is rusted in. Which leds me to believe it was still mounted to a piece of wood when it was droped which rotted away. The front looks to have had a Patent mark or other writing on it but I canot make out any words or letters for sure. Mostly ornamental perhaps showing the position or selection of something? If I can tie it to the military or a wagon part It will be  a signifigant relic find for me! The hunt site is a pre civil war/ Indian war camp site in Illinois where Illinois Militia wagons were known to be abandoned and ransacked by indians in the early 1800s.  I found it while m-ding out there over thanksgiving while visiting my wifes relatives! Thanks MaineRelic.
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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Nov 28, 2009, 03:53:19 pm

Pics too big for me to even guess. Monty

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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Nov 28, 2009, 04:05:29 pm

Interesting... looks like a dial that that when pointed allowed the user to see the selected whatever.

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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Nov 28, 2009, 04:45:31 pm

maybe for a compass

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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Nov 28, 2009, 04:47:29 pm

hmmmm.....I'm positive its not a Colonial or pre Civil War Anti-Aircraft Site. icon_scratch
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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Nov 28, 2009, 05:33:48 pm

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             Thanks fo the help with the pics Montana cause I really would like an ID and be ble too date it!!

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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Nov 29, 2009, 06:07:49 pm

ANY HELP AT ALL WOULD BE APPRECATED !!!!!!!!

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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Nov 30, 2009, 01:41:04 pm

Hello, It is one piece cast Iron, except for the wingnut screw which is rusted in. Which leds me to believe it was still mounted to a piece of wood when it was droped which rotted away. The front looks to have had a Patent mark or other writing on it but I canot make out any words or letters for sure. Mostly ornamental perhaps showing the position or selection of something? If I can tie it to the military or a wagon part It will be  a signifigant relic find for me! The hunt site is a pre civil war/ Indian war camp site in Illinois where Illinois Militia wagons were known to be abandoned during a retreat in the blackhawk war. I found it while m-ding out there over thanksgiving while visiting my wifes relatives! Thanks MaineRelic.

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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Nov 30, 2009, 05:02:52 pm

Been looking... no clue.

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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Dec 01, 2009, 12:59:48 am

my guess would be a wood working tool. Cutter or chisel would go into rectangle grove,then then material (most likley Wood) would be centered with the thumb screw on top,then start turning by Hnad to turn out a perfect circle.

Definatly a circle cutter of some type.modern day tools dont resemble a heavy hand turned device like that for we Have power tools to do the work instead of muscle power.
circa late 1800 my guess

not a very good example But here goes anyways

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2428/3887347590_c019d6eddd.jpg

But maybe that help Stir up the Cobwebs & Give You a real ID
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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Dec 01, 2009, 01:50:56 am

can't tell from the pics but is that a patent on the cross bars?
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Dec 01, 2009, 03:47:44 am

Good eye allan  icon_thumright It does look like text.

It may be from a sundial.

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