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Smallest coins I ever found..circa 1700's (Read 1124 times)
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Posted Nov 26, 2009, 06:36:57 AM
After yesterday's Roman coin find, I got my blood running and went a little higher on the mountain.

2 man hours and 4 dog hours secured these two little gems from around 1720's, Carlo VI, Italy/Spain, copper. The last two pics show what they are supposed to look like, but I have a funny feeling the crud on mine is holding the design and if I remove it, it will perform a vanishing act.

Oh, also found my first pop top in the middle of a forest. They sure sound good before you dig 'em.

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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 06:41:16 AM
cool  finds

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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 06:47:28 AM
cool  finds

Thanks, I think the one on the left is a different style, now that I see it blown up in the picture.
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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 07:11:48 AM
 icon_thumleft congrats,cool finds
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 07:25:35 AM
Here's another one similar to yours (on the right) and noted as a "QUATTRINO-- KING CHARLES II OF SPAIN 1676-1700 MILAN"

Source: http://cgi.ebay.it/QUATTRINO-CARLO-II-RE-DI-SPAGNA-1676-1700-MILANO_W0QQitemZ370280765510QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMonete_Antiche?hash=item5636741846
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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 07:40:03 AM
nice job..
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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 08:13:53 AM
I have never found any of those in Missouri.

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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 09:42:03 AM
Here's another one similar to yours (on the right) and noted as a "QUATTRINO-- KING CHARLES II OF SPAIN 1676-1700 MILAN"

Source: http://cgi.ebay.it/QUATTRINO-CARLO-II-RE-DI-SPAGNA-1676-1700-MILANO_W0QQitemZ370280765510QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMonete_Antiche?hash=item5636741846


Thanks for the link Don,..... This soil I'm on, is very unforgiving to copper items.
I lost  the first out of my hand when going through the dirt  from the hole in the deep leaves, and at first, cussed out my Vaquero for beeping these little pieces of iron, but recalled my confidence in my machine and said my dogs,  "She wouldn't do that at the disc level I set it at.", so took another look at the find and with my far-sighted vision, I just made out some detail. The second one was a no brainer.

I onced to live in a town named Mackay in Australia. Any relation?
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 10:02:56 AM
I'd guess somewhere that Mackay is related. We came to Canada from Scotland in the 1830s. 'Your' Mackay (John) was born in Scotland and came to New South Wales in about 1860. The Mackay's were all forced off (burned out of) our leased lands in favor of the landowners opting to raise sheep instead of maintaining an agrarian society.
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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 10:58:49 AM
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  • Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 12:10:01 PM
    wait until you get a Roman minum Wink

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  • Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 12:13:08 PM

      Cool. I've had a few of those. (Not finds)   The size and shape remind me of Rose Farthings.

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  • Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 12:15:06 PM

      Cool. I've had a few of those. (Not finds)   The size and shape remind me of Rose Farthings.

    yeap, but these look slightly thicker Wink
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  • Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 12:15:53 PM

      Cool. I've had a few of those. (Not finds)   The size and shape remind me of Rose Farthings.

    yeap, but these look slightly thicker Wink

      Just add a little UK corrosion.  thumbsup
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    Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 05:21:12 PM
    Very nice finds! 

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  • Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 05:24:03 PM
    Congrat on the finds. Very nice. HH.......
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    Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Nov 27, 2009, 07:16:40 AM
    Very nice finds  Grin
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    Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Nov 27, 2009, 07:27:51 AM
    Here's another pic of a MILANO, CARLO III  (1703-1725) , "QUATTRINO" that defines more clearly aspects of your coin on the right.
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    Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Nov 27, 2009, 07:36:10 AM
    I found this fact interesting:
    Despite the name is clearly derived from quattro ("four"), suggesting the quarter of a unit, in the Roman system this was the fifth part of a baiocco, thus it represented the smallest coin, made of copper.
    150 quattrini = 30 baiocchi = 3 giuli = 1 testone
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    Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Nov 27, 2009, 07:45:55 AM
    I found this fact interesting:
    Despite the name is clearly derived from quattro ("four"), suggesting the quarter of a unit, in the Roman system this was the fifth part of a baiocco, thus it represented the smallest coin, made of copper.
    150 quattrini = 30 baiocchi = 3 giuli = 1 testone
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    Thanks for the info. I can hardly deal with my Roman wife's peculiarities, so after hours of researching Roman coins on the internet with no inkling of grasping the immense category, I may give up pizza and pasta for life.

    I updated the Roman coin post with an interesting hopeful find near the coin hole.
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    Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Nov 27, 2009, 08:36:40 AM
    wtg on those sweet little coins !!

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