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1800 Draped Bust LC, Mass. civil war button, And more from the hay field !!

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Posted Oct 25, 2009, 07:55:10 am

 I headed off to my little corner of history this morning for a few hours.  After finding my first Colonial here yesterday, I was saying to myself "there is more". Not disapointed.......

 The first hole of the morning was the axe head. Go figure, I had to carry that in my pouch for the next two hours.  A little while later the small buckle showed up. The next keeper was the Tombac button. This one is a little different than any other that I have dug. The next target was Draped Bust #4 from the field! Once again just a whisper. Very deep, maybe ten inches. Right out of the ground in the best condition possible!  I knew right away that I had a variety also, 1800, 80 over 79. Getting kinda used to finding these, so in my watch pocket it goes and back to swinging. 
 I searched for another hour and added the large flat button to the days keepers.  On the walk through the field home, swinging wildly "as it always happens" I get a signal that is telling me possibly a copper cent, 30/32 on my minelab. pinpointed and out came the final find of the morning.....  Massachusettes Civil War button?  I think I am right.....

 I am going to do a couple of posts.  I took my camera with me today Grin

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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 07:56:03 am

Beautiful drapped bust man

HH Jer
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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 07:57:57 am

that is a beauty of a coin !!!! thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 07:59:30 am

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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 08:04:45 am

A few more...

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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 08:10:53 am

  Now there's my kind of a day, both a great button and a coin!  thumbsup   I hope to be so lucky over the next two days! 

  I agree, you can't hope for better condition out of most dirt.

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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 08:11:34 am

Great finds Packrat. Amazing relief on the back of that overdated large cent! The button looks like an Albert MS32 B.

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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 08:11:42 am

My god thats the best dug Drape Bust large cent I"ve ever seen. And that button is friggin awesome...Gotta love scovill's.
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 08:13:57 am

  Now there's my kind of a day, both a great button and a coin!  thumbsup   I hope to be so lucky over the next two days! 

  I agree, you can't hope for better condition out of most dirt.

 I woud not worry if I were you.  You seem to have " LUCKY " tatooed on your forehead headbang



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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 08:14:59 am

  Now there's my kind of a day, both a great button and a coin!  thumbsup   I hope to be so lucky over the next two days! 

  I agree, you can't hope for better condition out of most dirt.

 I woud not worry if I were you.  You seem to have " LUCKY " tatooed on your forehead headbang



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   Please just don't wipe it off for two more days!  thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 08:15:26 am

Beautiful finds! That button appears to be an Albert's MS 31. Nice!
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 08:16:33 am

Great finds Packrat. Amazing relief on the back of that overdated large cent! The button looks like an Albert MS32 B.

  Am I right?  Civil War?   Is there any more info to know about this button?


  Thank You for the help,      VPR
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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 08:26:29 am

"That button appears to be an Albert's MS 31. "

Brnn, check again, I believe the 31 is nearly flat and has tighter curve to the scroll then the 32?.

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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 08:39:30 am

Very nice Draped Bust. I have one soaking in olive oil, but it has heavy wear on it.
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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 09:00:15 am

VPR,those are awesome finds man!!

Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 09:03:53 am

What a great field!   The 1800 is one of eleven varieties that are overdates, I was hoping yours was anything but Sheldon 196, but it is a Sheldon 196. (The only variety that is Very Common of the eleven. Sad) http://www.largecents.net/collection/1800drbust.html

Your button, I have not looked at the front at all, just the backmark and a bit hard to say with 100% certainty, but it looks like the backmark of the one in Tice's book (Fig 6-5) that says 1860s-1870s.  So it is possible a CW era button, but not certain based on that range of possible dates.

Don

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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 09:13:10 am

What a great field!   The 1800 is one of eleven varieties that are overdates, I was hoping yours was anything but Sheldon 196, but it is a Sheldon 196. (The only variety that is Very Common of the eleven. Sad) http://www.largecents.net/collection/1800drbust.html

Your button, I have not looked at the front at all, just the backmark and a bit hard to say with 100% certainty, but it looks like the backmark of the one in Tice's book (Fig 6-5) that says 1860s-1870s.  So it is possible a CW era button, but not certain based on that range of possible dates.

Don

  Thank You Don.  I was hopeing you would show up notworthy
 I was just now looking at PENNY WHIMSY !!   196 is what I was seeing too.   Who cares what the variety is Wink  Look at the condition of this baby !!   

 I am out of peroxid right now Angry    The MRS. has gone on a mercy run for me Grin

 I want to touch up a spot on both sides with a Q-tip and call it done.

 I will post an "after" pic when it is done.   In fact I will post all four headbang

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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 09:26:13 am

Great finds Packrat. Amazing relief on the back of that overdated large cent! The button looks like an Albert MS32 B.

Jumped right out at me as well..SWEET DIGS!!!
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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 09:46:07 am

Your coin really needs no more cleaning other than wet q-tips to remove what is left, don't overdue it where those blue/green areas are showing on the rim.

Yes, great detail, certain years had a better relief strike than others and evidently yours is one of them, I believe I have a 1798 that is similar in raised detail..

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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 11:27:40 am

Man, you are killing it up there. The detail on the LC is amazing. Great pics too...

The Mass. button is unbelievable as well...

Keep 'em coming !!!

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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 11:39:47 am

Very nice ! That site has been realy good to you to say the least ! I'd bet that there's a ton more good find's just waiting.........for me to come help ya !!!!!  thumbsup  thumbsup  thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 01:53:29 pm

VP, that is a killer field you are working there.  This should really motivate you to start doing research on early sites in your area!  You must get on the Colonial train with us! icon_thumright
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Reply To This Topic #22 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 01:58:31 pm

VP, that is a killer field you are working there.  This should really motivate you to start doing research on early sites in your area!  You must get on the Colonial train with us! icon_thumright

 I agree on the Colonial train.  I have only been swinging a MD for three years now.  I never really have done any research. I just hit the old spots that I know of from growing up arround here. 
 I may ask for some Research tips this winter notworthy

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Reply To This Topic #23 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 02:18:12 pm

Great coin and buttons. Looks like a great field.

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Reply To This Topic #24 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 02:25:32 pm

VP, that is a killer field you are working there.  This should really motivate you to start doing research on early sites in your area!  You must get on the Colonial train with us! icon_thumright

 I agree on the Colonial train.  I have only been swinging a MD for three years now.  I never really have done any research. I just hit the old spots that I know of from growing up arround here. 
 I may ask for some Research tips this winter notworthy

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Looks like we can include you in the Colonial fever. This sickness can never be cured and is highly contagious. I have been bitten for 4 years or so and am approaching my 100th copper. Research away my man. thumbsup What a field you have there.
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Reply To This Topic #25 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 02:35:30 pm

Thats a good dig there,love the LC
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Reply To This Topic #26 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 02:43:20 pm

 Here is the 1800 cleaned up, and a group shot of all the large copper from the field so far.

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Reply To This Topic #27 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 03:12:56 pm

More great finds from your field. That cent is amazing. Congrats. thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #28 Posted Oct 25, 2009, 03:23:49 pm

That coin is in amazing condition  headbang
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Reply To This Topic #29 Posted Oct 26, 2009, 05:24:19 am

Congrats VPR          Lost but uncirculated for 200+years condition  Man now that is incredible ! Nice button 2 .  Real nice up there   

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Reply To This Topic #30 Posted Oct 26, 2009, 05:33:45 am

Wow what a gorgeous large cent and that button is a killer too!

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Reply To This Topic #31 Posted Oct 26, 2009, 10:41:36 am

Awesome finds VPR! Congrats!

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Reply To This Topic #32 Posted Oct 26, 2009, 10:55:28 am

Heck, That Draped is a Banner Find in my opinion. Never seen one that good before. Beautiful finds VPR hello2 hello2

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Reply To This Topic #33 Posted Oct 26, 2009, 11:52:11 am

That 1800 LC is breathtaking.

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Reply To This Topic #34 Posted Oct 26, 2009, 11:57:50 am

That is a beautiful draped bust.  Congrats on some great hunts!
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Reply To This Topic #35 Posted Oct 26, 2009, 04:22:32 pm

 Needless to say....  This field is GOOD to copper.  Watch for more posts from this spot because I am sure there is more to find.

 Also watch for my year end post for this spot.


             Thank You,                       VPR
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Reply To This Topic #36 Posted Oct 26, 2009, 04:37:31 pm

That's a really exciting find.  Looks like you've spent a lot of time at that site and it's paying off.   Congrats on the draped bust, that has to be one of the nicest condition dug coppers I've seen on here.

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Reply To This Topic #37 Posted Oct 26, 2009, 06:50:53 pm

Hey VermontPR those are some great looking coppers.  The Mass. button is sweet too, I have one of those in my collection found it years ago.  Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!

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Reply To This Topic #38 Posted Oct 27, 2009, 01:46:10 am

Man, that's gotta be the nicest Large Cent I've ever seen dug ! Sometimes you get a decent front or back but all most never both. Wow  headbang

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Reply To This Topic #39 Posted Oct 27, 2009, 04:31:17 am

Beautiful Digs, Mr. Lucky!

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Reply To This Topic #40 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 02:34:12 pm

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Reply To This Topic #41 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 06:32:01 pm

nice coins bud!! looks like that one is a 80 over79 variety. congrats willy
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Reply To This Topic #42 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 07:56:31 pm

Wow, definately a fist pumper. When a draped is found i pump my fist and sceam to myself YES YES as I am sure you did. Your freindly soil sure kept the pretty girl looking good.
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Reply To This Topic #43 Posted Nov 27, 2009, 04:30:32 am

VPR..........CONGRATS!!!!!!    The Hogge notworthy

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Reply To This Topic #44 Posted Nov 27, 2009, 06:08:58 am

Man, that is one sweet DB LC. That is a beautiful area you are hunting. What a great hobby.
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Reply To This Topic #45 Posted Nov 27, 2009, 06:54:28 am

those are some sweet finds
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Reply To This Topic #46 Posted Nov 27, 2009, 07:13:19 pm

 :hello:Great diggs, the field is huge!
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Reply To This Topic #47 Posted Nov 27, 2009, 07:45:20 pm

Thanks everyone for the replies !

 I will be doing a post soon with the totals from this field.  Alot of good stuff....



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