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Posted Nov 25, 2009, 05:48:08 PM |
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Found these at a field site last week.  Help is appreciated. TIA Merf
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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Nov 25, 2009, 05:51:06 PM |
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2nd piece looks like part of a sword hilt guard...
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California
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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Nov 25, 2009, 06:24:41 PM |
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2nd piece looks like part of a sword hilt guard...
Wow!That would be cool!They sure were patriotic back in the day,Eagles on everything!
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North Carolina
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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Nov 25, 2009, 06:26:46 PM |
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Great finds if that's what they are.
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Nov 25, 2009, 10:32:54 PM |
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Way back a long time ago, before there was electricity in most homes. They used natural gas to light their homes. And the 2nd. and 3rd. pics look like the brackets that held the gas line away from the walls.........NGE
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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 06:27:10 AM |
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The first item look most like a flag pole topper, and I agree on the second as being part of a sword hilt guard.
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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 08:07:57 AM |
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Merf, can we see a pic of the back of the second piece?
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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 08:43:42 AM |
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These look like 1800's style of eagle artwork.
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Northern Illinois
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 08:10:58 PM |
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Merf, can we see a pic of the back of the second piece?
John-----The pics show the fronts and backs of 2 items.
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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 08:28:22 PM |
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2nd piece looks like part of a sword hilt guard...
ditto looking now......
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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 08:47:49 PM |
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This is an example of what Im looking for/at using google images"brass eagle sword hilt cross-guard" 
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east tennessee
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 08:53:09 PM |
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first one maybe a weather vane topper
if the ball of the first one had an attachment it could be one of those ice dam breaker thing on roof edges.
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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 09:27:18 PM |
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2nd piece looks like part of a sword hilt guard...
Absolutely! My advice to you Merf, is to get a free account and post this photo on the international sword forum. Someone there will know immediately whether it is or isn't a sword hilt--and if it is, they will know the date range and perhaps even manufacturer. http://www.swordforum.com/Best Wishes, Buckles
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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Nov 27, 2009, 08:31:06 AM |
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Merf, great to see the back of the hilt and a clear view of both breaks. Finding all these together really adds some weight to the eagles being on flag staffs. Napoleon's army used the bronze eagle on their flag staffs (burried a huge number on the Steppes of Russia during his retreat) and the French were in the general area assuming this was found in south eastern Texas. The other possibility is the Mexican War. Hopefully you're searching in a low discrimination relic mode? As the condition of these things look like this field was never plowed, it would really be helpful to see all the smaller relics that came out of it to get some idea if this was a route or encampment. Great finds!
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Northern Illinois
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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Nov 27, 2009, 05:41:06 PM |
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2nd piece looks like part of a sword hilt guard...
Absolutely! My advice to you Merf, is to get a free account and post this photo on the international sword forum. Someone there will know immediately whether it is or isn't a sword hilt--and if it is, they will know the date range and perhaps even manufacturer. http://www.swordforum.com/Best Wishes, Buckles Thanks Buckles-----I will do that
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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Nov 27, 2009, 06:05:49 PM |
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The first item look most like a flag pole topper, and I agree on the second as being part of a sword hilt guard.
I think that may be the answer Cheyenne--  -Here is a pic of the bottom of the ball. Looks like the fastening point.
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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Nov 27, 2009, 06:12:00 PM |
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Merf, great to see the back of the hilt and a clear view of both breaks. Finding all these together really adds some weight to the eagles being on flag staffs. Napoleon's army used the bronze eagle on their flag staffs (burried a huge number on the Steppes of Russia during his retreat) and the French were in the general area assuming this was found in south eastern Texas. The other possibility is the Mexican War. Hopefully you're searching in a low discrimination relic mode? As the condition of these things look like this field was never plowed, it would really be helpful to see all the smaller relics that came out of it to get some idea if this was a route or encampment. Great finds!
Thanks Johnny  I found a few flat buttons and a couple of CW buttons in that part of the county. Not much else as far as brass relics. I found this French coin [I think] made into a button in the same general area.
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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Nov 27, 2009, 09:10:18 PM |
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Merf, great to see the back of the hilt and a clear view of both breaks. Finding all these together really adds some weight to the eagles being on flag staffs. Napoleon's army used the bronze eagle on their flag staffs (burried a huge number on the Steppes of Russia during his retreat) and the French were in the general area assuming this was found in south eastern Texas. The other possibility is the Mexican War. Hopefully you're searching in a low discrimination relic mode? As the condition of these things look like this field was never plowed, it would really be helpful to see all the smaller relics that came out of it to get some idea if this was a route or encampment. Great finds!
Thats cool!!!Looks like like an improvised cuff link!! Thanks Johnny  I found a few flat buttons and a couple of CW buttons in that part of the county. Not much else as far as brass relics. I found this French coin [I think] made into a button in the same general area.
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Northern Illinois
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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Nov 29, 2009, 06:12:24 PM |
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Thanks to all for the replies.  I took Buckles advice and posted pics on the sword forum and got this response from one of the moderators. I guess the piece will remain a mystery. Glen C. (Offline) Archivist Moderator Posts: 7,857 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Nipmuc USA Yesterday, 11:19 PM Hi Terry, Welcome to Sword Forum International Is this ferrous, as in a magnet will stick? I'm immediately reminded of a favorite harpy type I have files of but what is pictured in your attachments doesn't immediately say sword hilt to me. Cheers Hotspur; that's a pretty beaky bugger, whatever it is
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