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Posted Dec 01, 2009, 04:21:43 pm

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/originals/climategate.html

Climategate: Caught Green-Handed!
The whistleblower deep in the basement of one of the ugly, modern tower-blocks of the dismal, windswept University of East Anglia could scarcely have timed it better.

In less than three weeks, the world’s governing class – its classe politique – would meet in Copenhagen, Denmark, to discuss a treaty to inflict an unelected and tyrannical global government on us, with vast and unprecedented powers to control all once-free world markets and to tax and regulate the world’s wealthier nations for its own enrichment: in short, to bring freedom, democracy, and prosperity to an instant end worldwide, at the stroke of a pen, on the pretext of addressing what is now known to be the non-problem of manmade “global warming”. (Christopher Monckton of Brenchley)

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=513835

When Scientists Become Politicians
The recent expose of the e-mails from the scientists at the Hadley Climatic Research Unit at Britain's University of East Anglia, revealing the nefarious nature of their global warming crusade, does far more than damage the credibility of global warming activists. It damages the foundation of one of the last bastions of truth.

Science above all is about the search for truth, for fact, for data that either support or undermine a theory. When a group hijacks the scientific process for political and/or financial gain, not only does the science (and truth) suffer, but all of mankind suffers insofar as we lose faith in the supposed unbiased endeavors of those seeking answers to important questions. Scientists become the very politicians that so many people so vehemently distrust.

Over the years, science and the rigors of scientific inquiry have been held up as shining examples of the pursuit of truth unsullied by the vagaries of political discourse or influence. People learned to trust scientists for this very reason. What was deemed to be supported by science was held aloft as truth — after all, the science "proved" it!

However, once the scientists are revealed to be nothing more than the "wizards" behind the curtain, mere charlatans passing off parlor tricks as "science," the veil of impartiality is torn asunder, along with the trust that we had learned to place in them. (Paul Tortland, IBD)

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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Dec 01, 2009, 05:33:40 pm

Yup ,  looks like Phil Jones is quitting -

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy.../2009/12/01/AR2009120102737_pf.html
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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Dec 01, 2009, 05:57:47 pm

The article says Jones is only stepping down during the "Indpendent Internal Investigation".
My question, why should we believe anything these jerks say??? 'Indpendent Internal Investigation"?? Says who? The staff of East Angelica University?? Oh yeah, very trust worthy people I hear, unless they discuss climate change. No way. I do not trust their investigation at all and no one else should either.

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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Dec 01, 2009, 08:21:41 pm

OK,  We nonbeliever's have always known the truth.
SO,   Where are all the con-man posters at now.
Yes,  I said con-man posters.
Why,   Simple, I have always posted (They believe not what they post.)
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 10:26:13 am

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/12/01...e-says-climate-change-is-happening/

White House Balks at ClimateGate, Says Climate Change is Happening

When asked about ClimateGate, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs dismissed its importance, emphasizing that “climate change is happening.”
Of course climate change is happening. Soon we’ll be calling press conferences to declare, “The earth is moving” or “It’s going to get dark tonight.” The reality is the climate has been changing ever since there was a climate, and part of that change was a cooling period as recent as the 1940s to the 1970s giving rise to fears of a coming ice age. When Gibbs spouts this rhetoric, he’s clearly referring to human-induced warming, but since when has climate change become synonymous with manmade global warming?  And what does it take for a scientific consensus to stop being one?
In fact, the phrase “climate change” is one of climatologist Roy Spencer’s major irritations about the whole climate change debate. He writes, “Thirty years ago, the term “climate change” would have meant natural climate change, which is what climate scientists mostly studied before that time. Today, it has come to mean human-caused climate change. The public, and especially the media, now think that “climate change” implies WE are responsible for it. Mother Nature, not Al Gore, invented real climate change.”

http://www.masterresource.org/2009/...tegate-misconstrue-the-real-debate/

Apologist Responses to Climategate Misconstrue the Real Debate (Quantitative, not Qualitative)
But even if the IPCC’s iconic statement were correct, it still would not be cause for alarm….The potential (and only the potential) for alarm enters with the issue of climate sensitivity—which refers to the change that a doubling of CO2 will produce in [global mean temperatures]. –Richard Lindzen, Wall Street Journal, November 30, 2009
Defenders of the IPCC position on climate science have adopted different strategies in dealing with the scandal of the CRU emails and computer code.  Some authoritative voices, notably Judy Curry, have engaged in dialog with skeptics and have reassured PhD students that the “tribalism” revealed in the CRU emails has no place in science.
On the other hand, another very common reaction has been to mock the “deniers” for taking certain phrases out of context. This circle-the-wagons strategy tries to convince the public that the CRU episode has absolutely no bearing on the actual science, and that at worst it reveals petty personality flaws. This spin is epitomized in sarcastic pieces which take on the voice of the “deniers” and claim that the laws of physics are all a socialist hoax too.


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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 11:59:10 am

Man, the White House and Congress are just determined to shove, shove, and shove this down our throats regardless of Public Opinion, Scientific proof, and proof of scandal and lies. This makes our Government revolting. Where has freedom gone???

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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 01:59:55 pm

The Congress and the President have dug themselves in to a deep hole…How are they going to pay off what they have spent…Cap and trade….Remember …All taxes are past onto the consumers….Right…That is us…Art
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