A Mass of Metal- 10' Deep/Any Helpful Idea's?

I've used a Garrett Treasure Hound to locate, at the approximate area where a huge mass of metal (10' X 10') was told to me to be located. The mass is 10' deep, in an approx. 10' X 10' x 10' area. There is an area that the twin box runs into, which is about a 8' diameter area. I used two other coils to find out if the signal would not be able to be picked up, being ten feet deep. The first, a 14" coil on a Garrett Master Hunter 7. Anyone know how deep this 14" coil would go, if a huge mass of metal were 10' down?  It seemed to pick something up, but only a little 2'x2' area, on the edge of the circle. The 11" gave some signal, an even smaller area. Can these coils go that far to pick up a tad of signal? I used a 5' probe, and went down a couple of feet. No car hood, or big flat metal. But how could there be, with no constant signal in the 8' diameter, with the 11 & 14 coils? When I point into the circle with the Hound, I get a strong reading all the way around. Stepping through it, there is a constant signal across it. What are the odds of a huge signal like this, and a probe not hitting anything? I want to make sure before I get expensive equipment to dig. Anyone have any good idea's that could verify it is a deep target without a lot of expense? Ground penetrating radar the only solution?  Thanks for any help.

It sounds as though your two box is picking up the target.
I guess I don't understand your hesitation in digging it up.

Timberwolf

It sounds as though your two box is picking up the target.
I guess I don't understand your hesitation in digging it up.

Timberwolf

Expense of the heavy equipment, and not knowing for certain.

I can understand that.
I guy told me of a cache that is supposedly buried 20' deep in an old cistern.
There is no treasure story for this one, the guy just dowsed it.

So far, I can't get myself to hire a back hoe an operator, to see if the guy is right.

But back to your question....I have a Discovery TF-900 (two box), that some claim will pick up car sized objects buried 20' deep. I don't know if it will or not, I have only tested mine once, in my front yard.

TW

I can understand that.
I guy told me of a cache that is supposedly buried 20' deep in an old cistern.
There is no treasure story for this one, the guy just dowsed it.

So far, I can't get myself to hire a back hoe an operator, to see if the guy is right.

But back to your question....I have a Discovery TF-900 (two box), that some claim will pick up car sized objects buried 20' deep. I don't know if it will or not, I have only tested mine once, in my front yard.

TW

Yeah, several have said that there should be no problem with picking up the signal. What I wish WEREN'T happening, is that the 11 & 14 are reading something. Is it possible for them to go 10 ten feet? The ground is wet from rain.

I have not had any experiences with coils of that size, so I'm afraid I'm not much help, sorry.

TW

LOL, yep....that's what I thought.

HI Detectit  my friend:    Get a longer probe say to 10 ft, and get to work.  The blood hound etc  attachmet will certainly go that deep on a large object. But then I am curious just how many treasures are 'that big'?  DIG IT UP ya bum ! he he he

Don Jose de La Mancha

     I would think that there would be someone who owns a backhoe who would be willing to gamble on a percentage of the find for their services. Couldn't hurt to ask, the worst they could do is say no. Just a thought, good luck.

HH Charlie

I can understand that.
I guy told me of a cache that is supposedly buried 20' deep in an old cistern.
There is no treasure story for this one, the guy just dowsed it.

TW

If you seriously beleive that a dowser can find a cache buried 20 feet deep...and you do actually find it, I need a 50% investment partner for a bank fund in Nigeria that is very tantilizing...as soon as I sell my other 50% in the Brookyln Bridge...

Stefen,

I think I'll stick with the dowser.....he only wanted 25%.

TW

My loss

 

Why knock the dowsing angle? I know for a fact that it can be done. I would look into it more deeply before drawing conclusions.

Why knock the dowsing angle? I know for a fact that it can be done. I would look into it more deeply before drawing conclusions.

Dowsing has been a repeated subject on TN and yet nobody has met the challenge of providing a factual find.

I do not believe what I am reading.........You are getting a good signal on your two box detector where you have been told treasure exists, and you hesitate to dig because you are not sure any treasure is there worth renting digging equipment to find  

What kind of treasure hunting is that?........First I would research the treasure tale to see how believable it was, then either dismiss it, or get to work with a shovel!  

There are no guarantees in treasure hunting but a lead is a lead and a signal is a signal. Do some research on the area in question to rule out water lines and start digging!  I have dug some pretty deep holes by hand just by using a regular shovel, after getting a signal with my two-box detector. Digging is really the only way to know for sure what's there, and digging is how you retrieve buried treasure. If you are going to be a treasure hunter then you need to get used to digging.

If treasure hunting was easy we would all be rich enough to own our own backhoe, but then we wouldn't need one.

This one will get you to 7 feet deep. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65162



This one has unlimited depth:




It would take two men about 5 hours to dig a hole 10'x10'x10' using a standard shovel, depending upon the consistency of the dirt.  At the average rate of 10sq. feet per hr. per man.
I would say one man could do it in two 6 hr. days.


GG~


Are you still trying to get at those buried tools? I would partner up with a backhoe operator and split the take 50/50.
Let him know if nothing is found then you pay him a hundred bucks.  

Why knock the dowsing angle? I know for a fact that it can be done. I would look into it more deeply before drawing conclusions.

Dowsing has been a repeated subject on TN and yet nobody has met the challenge of providing a factual find.

Actually....a lot of finds have been posted on here...but people refuse to believe that they were found by dowsing. Some people will not believe ANYTHING it seems.

I personally have family members that dowse. My grandfather and I found an old Indian silver mine by dowsing. Since then I have found 2 more in the general area by dowsing myself. So yes....dowsing works. My Uncle had his property map dowsed for water over 30 years ago. His water is still flowing, found at EXACTLY the spot and at the EXACT depth he was told to dig. So yes....dowsing works.

I found a leak in my water line at home 2 years ago....so yes, dowsing works.

I found a pin that had came loose from a tractor in a plowed field....so yes, dowsing works.

Respectfully,
Eddie

Eddie,

I have to admit that I do believe that some people can dowse for treasure.
A friend of mine has done it more than once.

One morning I saw a city worker dowsing a water main, and by golly he did it.
Yep, some can dowse and some can't.
I'm one of those that can't.

TW

Borrow a magnetometer, like a Schonstedt. Surveyors, utility guys, and some excavators have them. They will only sense magnetism (iron-based) objects, but they will go down 10' if the mass is large enough.  I've done 6" iron water pipes at 6'.

So for not much effort, you've gained some knowledge.

I hate to dig, but it may be your only recourse; but do your research first, unless you need to work off the calories.

You could rent a Bobcat backhoe; it isn't all that hard to learn.

detectit,remember what you have read about those who buried money for later on--what i have read said some would bury the biggie,and after so much backfilling, bury a smaller cache at same place and hope if anyone finds the small one will jump up and leave thinking that was all.don't know how true that could be but could possibly be what you are experiencing.something else to consider,dig down two to three feet and see how the soil is mixed or not mixed.  do a drill test and see what comes up. plus i doubt that your detector is going to read water at ten feet.mine wont read water at one inch. if none of that seems feasible --try another dowser or two and see if it all comes up the same.hope you do find the biggie---------tenclaw

Eddie,

I have to admit that I do believe that some people can dowse for treasure.
A friend of mine has done it more than once.

One morning I saw a city worker dowsing a water main, and by golly he did it.
Yep, some can dowse and some can't.
I'm one of those that can't.

TW

I was working a job in Colorado where they were trying to locate a valve & tee. After three locators & one company owner/trainer tried & tried one of the superintendants drove up to the construction shack and came back with a couple of Lrods bent out of coathangers. He located the tee a few feet away from where it was supposed to be. Was kinda cool seeing the looks on the faces of the locators & the potholing crew when they hit it within an inch or two after the locators spent the better part of the morning with negative results. Not to mention all the expensive equipment.

Detectit,
Find a backhoe operator & see how far a suitcase of Budweiser or fifth of good scotch will get you. Sometimes Bud will go further than green especially on a hot day. You might be able to set it up on his way back from a paying job in the area.

Detectit,
What are you waiting for man, go get a shovel. Small backhoes can't be that scarce, I'll bet you know someone with a small John Deer or such. We are dying to know!  Although I can appreciate your concern for the investment to find an old car hood.

Good Luck
Jeff

You can dig that deep in 2 or 3 days...  Faster if you dig 4 to 5 feet down and  then dig the rest with a post hole Digger or Gas powered post hole auger...

In cache hunting you must dig almost any signal of your detector, by sure you must have a history about the treasure, but if you only have the signal a real and persistent signal. go ahead, dig and dig.

HI: From what you have said, it is fairy sure that it is deep.  Suggestion, first check the area, say 20 ft to 'all' sides to see if there is any other reactions, if so I would be leery.  No other reaction, get ready to reduce your waist line.

Don Jose de La Mancha

If it were me in your situation, I'd put on the gloves, grab my shovel, and get digging. And I'd bring a piece of plywood to cover the hole between digging sessions, just cover it with a thin layer of dirt when you leave.. Both to prevent others from falling in it, and to prevent people from discovering your hole and recovering your treasure before you do. Good luck, and I hope it's something good. If not, you got some good exercise.

I have a strange feeling when you dig down to this enormous 10x10x10 metal object, your shovel will poke through the rusty metal and 50 year old human waste will come pouring out. Ick...what makes you think it may be a treasure?

If you're close enougbh to where I am, I'll bring my CX Plus w/ the two box attachment. If I get the same reading you do, we'll both dig! Split anything down the middle and not tell anyone else! But remember that a good two box will pick up a change in the mineralization of the soil. Perhaps a back filled cistern?

This sounds to me that someone has hidden a storeage container under the ground for maybe WWIII,or maybe a storm shelter,or maybe someone is hidding guns,etc,lets remember that famous seen from The Terminator 2 when the Terminator pulls that chain and that metal container appears from under the ground filled with guns. Please let us know what you find.