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Finally a point and a neat tool? Or am I making it a point to be a tool....

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Posted Nov 26, 2009, 05:50:08 pm

quick cliff's notes:
Young niece and nephew say they find "arrowheads" on my bro-in-law and sister's farm in west Georgia...the area was a center of native habitation and commerce until Chief Macintosh (sp?) sold his land and po'd his own people who thanked him by murdering him..(forgive the rather loose history interpretation)

Also found out there are old home foundations on the property..went to check all out today to burn some calorturkies....

The "point" DOES look like one..but I'm a "newb" and I fail everytime I post something here (violin..smallest..play?)..and maybe it's the "notch" but it really is nice looking close up and you can almost see through it when holding it up...

The "rock" seems like it HAS to be a tool of sorts...it fits perfectly in the hand with a spot that fits the thumb PERFECTLY..as well as a completely flat end as if to smash things or flatten something...
then again..I could just have found yet another geo-fact...

the other 2 (quartz as well I believe) were found in the same vicinity of the "point" ...looked like something enough to pick up, take a pick on the bberry and post here...dim your screen or fold your laptop screen back and look closely..anyone see a face on the left one in the last pic hahahaa>>too many adhd meds today..sorry

thanks for your time...
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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 06:03:21 pm

Looks like somebody was chipping vein quartz there. And either using it or the chips they were taking from it  -- otherwise they wouldn't have bothered.
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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 06:08:10 pm

Happy Thanksgiving !
 Nice way to burn the turkey off. Intersting history. Murder back then seemed to hold more significance than todays common affair.Nobody remembers yesterdays murder anymore.

 The first piece in my opinion could have been being shaped into a tool. The large item may be natural you may never know with out some type of use marks. The quartz rocks are what they liked ? The last on the left.... I am going to take some medications and come back to it  laughing7
 Good Thanksgiving day post and welcome to artifacts. You are on the right track with the shapes and materials.The site sounds like a good one and would warrant further deeper exploration.
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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Nov 26, 2009, 06:20:43 pm

Looks like somebody was chipping vein quartz there. And either using it or the chips they were taking from it  -- otherwise they wouldn't have bothered.

correct..lots of large quartz stones and lots of chipped and 'shaped' as well
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Nov 28, 2009, 06:12:05 am

Those are some fine examples of some quarts rocks, most likely used by the indians as "rocks".   Followed by another fine example of a larger "rock".
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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Nov 28, 2009, 08:30:49 am

Those are some fine examples of some quarts rocks, most likely used by the indians as "rocks".   Followed by another fine example of a larger "rock".

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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Nov 28, 2009, 11:14:59 am

The sugar quartz (pic 3) is far too brittle to have been used for some tools (axes), it just comes apart, into grains. But, it is possible pic 3 could have been used as a hoe. It all depends what context it was found.
I have found buckets of all types of quartz, unless you are actually finding lots of points/blades, I would say they are just rocks. Its flakes you need to be looking out for, where they knapped their quartz points/blades etc..
Good luck hunting..

Molly.
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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Nov 28, 2009, 12:00:28 pm

The sugar quartz (pic 3) is far too brittle to have been used for some tools (axes), it just comes apart, into grains. But, it is possible pic 3 could have been used as a hoe. It all depends what context it was found.
I have found buckets of all types of quartz, unless you are actually finding lots of points/blades, I would say they are just rocks. Its flakes you need to be looking out for, where they knapped their quartz points/blades etc..
Good luck hunting..

Molly.

Thanks for the detailed answer for sure...there is flaking all over this area of the property...and in this one general location are many large quartz rocks....

How recent has quartz been used on farmland for various things?

It could be that these just 'chipped' off when moving all the quartz rocks into piles on the property and the shape is just a coincidence....

As far as the larger rock..that is "sugar quartz"? Neat...it just seems to perfectly shaped, flattened and "layered" to have broken off like that..especially when holding it in the hand instead of seeing it in blackberry camera phone pictures...

Thank you for your help!
Much more useful to a "newbie" in the hobby than a smart*** comment like "the indians used those as rocks...." those types of comments can turn people off from here just as soon as they join...
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