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I think a new rule needs to be added to the official CRH list!!!!! (Read 1248 times)
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Posted Dec 02, 2009, 10:41:27 AM
NEVER VOTE FOR THE BANNER FOR CRH FINDS!!!!!!

Now lots of people are gonna try it that would of never thought of it before.

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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 10:45:50 AM
To each his own.  Its not like its a CRHing is huge secret, there are hundreds of other web forums that address CRH and what people find.  If you feel that this draws unwanted attention, dont post it.  Many will try, few will stick with it after getting clad all day.  I personally like seeing what others find.  To make a banner is a reward for someones hard work. 

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Wheats: 0/281
Buffalo: 0/6
War Nickel: 0/27
Roos: 0/12
WLH: 0/15
Bens: 0/30
90% JFK: 1/115
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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 11:08:48 AM
To make a banner is a reward for someones hard work. 

  Seriously though he said he spent 6 min. in the bank and walks away with over 3k in silver. Many will try After reading that.

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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 11:32:13 AM
To make a banner is a reward for someones hard work. 

  Seriously though he said he spent 6 min. in the bank and walks away with over 3k in silver. Many will try After reading that.

  Mojo
I agree, never vote crh finds for the banner.

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Barbers - 4
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 11:42:58 AM
To make a banner is a reward for someones hard work. 

  Seriously though he said he spent 6 min. in the bank and walks away with over 3k in silver. Many will try After reading that.

  Mojo

I guarantee you that he has spent more than 6 minutes searching for this.  He has spend many hours/days.  Just so happened he got lucky in this 6 minutes.  All of us dream of this kind of find and may spend a lifetime looking for it.  Most will fail. 
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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 11:53:40 AM
...I agree, no more banner finds...

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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 12:29:08 PM
The banner's labelend "Recent Discoveries by Our Members."  Is a thousand silver halves not a discovery?  If you eyeballed a box full of Morgan dollars while detecting a field, should that not be considered a banner find becasue you didn't dig it up?

We all know there's no such thing as a "hunted out" location.  Let's stop using that phrase to describe a park out of which you just dug a pile of coins!  Obviously that particular place wasn't "hunted out", right?
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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 01:32:03 PM
NEVER VOTE FOR THE BANNER FOR CRH FINDS!!!!!!

Now lots of people are gonna try it that would of never thought of it before.
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 01:40:36 PM
To each his own.  Its not like its a CRHing is huge secret, there are hundreds of other web forums that address CRH and what people find.  If you feel that this draws unwanted attention, dont post it.  Many will try, few will stick with it after getting clad all day.  I personally like seeing what others find.  To make a banner is a reward for someones hard work. 

I agree, so what if this was from CRHing? How many of us find a treasure like this? If he spent 6 minutes, or 6 days, who cares?  dontknow He was d-mn lucky and got there before anyone else did.
If he found an authentic CW sword at Goodwill in 6 minutes should that not count either?  Or a gold dollar given out as change at McDonalds?

I applaud this banner find and am glad it was shared here on TN.  hello2 icon_thumleft occasion14
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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 01:41:40 PM
I agree after my big silver hit this spring I dont put up any pics every now and then ill discuss a few finds but no pix and definatley no banner I already thought that was a no no
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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 01:44:52 PM
CRHing is like playing the lotto ==many try , some get little winners --once in  very great while someone hits big time. --- we all dream it'll be us in the winners circle one day.
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 01:59:47 PM
...I agree, no more banner finds...

HH
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Curious goldencoin, what was your banner find for? 
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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 02:15:10 PM
Metal detecting.  The right field, the right conditions, detecting from the right direction, all of these factors can influence whether or not you hit the big find.

CRHing.  The right bank, the right day, the right teller, all of these factors can influence whether or not you hit the big find.

You can spend a lot on a metal detector.
Same for CRHing (though you can recycle the same funds over and over, so a tiny bit different.)

You can't get out to detect every day.
Same for CRHing.

You can spend hours detecting to find one good coin.
Same for CRHing.

You might drive for hours to find the right detecting spot.
Same for CRHing.

You'll get turned down sometimes when asking to hunt a great detecting location.
Same for CRHing.

You may find one good coin while detecting, or find a whole pile of them in one spot.
Same for CRHing.

The gleam of a silver reeded coin edge while detecting is a great thrill.
Same for CRhing.

You'll get your hands dirty while detecting.
Same for CRHing.

Why are people acting like these are such different activities?
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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 02:29:19 PM
hasnt that been an unwritten rule on here for a long time anyways? i thought we solved this problem after that guy found the gold coin in the nickel roll?
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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 02:53:24 PM
I don't see why anyone here who posts pictures of HOARDS of keepers would have any legitimate basis to complain about the whole banner thing.

Lurkers here who see the many great finds via pictures are just as likely to get into CRHing as would somebody getting a banner spot.

For the record, I am against both banner and photos (except for pictures of rare, odd or unidentified coins).  I know I am in the minority on the photo part.

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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 02:59:47 PM
hasnt that been an unwritten rule on here for a long time anyways? i thought we solved this problem after that guy found the gold coin in the nickel roll?
Obviously not, as you can see from the banner right now.

What everyone seems to be forgetting here is that the Member Finds banner comes from member votes.  If other T'Net members feel that a CRHing find is worthy to be on the banner, then it will end up there.  These posts crying that finds from rolls don't belong on the banner are pretty darn rude if you want the truth. 

If a member decides that he or she wants to share with us a find made while CRHing, and it later gets nominated for the banner, it's not the fault of the original poster.  They were just excited about a find and wanted to tell others who share thier passion about it.  All threads like this serve to do is drive people away from this site.  Is that really what you want? 

If that's your goal here, to lower the population of TreasureNet, then you could always cancel your own account.  Just a suggestion....

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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 03:23:14 PM
hasnt that been an unwritten rule on here for a long time anyways? i thought we solved this problem after that guy found the gold coin in the nickel roll?
Obviously not, as you can see from the banner right now.

What everyone seems to be forgetting here is that the Member Finds banner comes from member votes.  If other T'Net members feel that a CRHing find is worthy to be on the banner, then it will end up there.  These posts crying that finds from rolls don't belong on the banner are pretty darn rude if you want the truth. 

If a member decides that he or she wants to share with us a find made while CRHing, and it later gets nominated for the banner, it's not the fault of the original poster.  They were just excited about a find and wanted to tell others who share thier passion about it.  All threads like this serve to do is drive people away from this site.  Is that really what you want? 

If that's your goal here, to lower the population of TreasureNet, then you could always cancel your own account.  Just a suggestion....




I can only speak for myself, but I don't think anyone is trying to lower the population of this website, but instead are trying to not encourage future CRHers.  There is a distinction between the two.

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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 03:32:15 PM
hasnt that been an unwritten rule on here for a long time anyways? i thought we solved this problem after that guy found the gold coin in the nickel roll?
Obviously not, as you can see from the banner right now.

What everyone seems to be forgetting here is that the Member Finds banner comes from member votes.  If other T'Net members feel that a CRHing find is worthy to be on the banner, then it will end up there.  These posts crying that finds from rolls don't belong on the banner are pretty darn rude if you want the truth. 

If a member decides that he or she wants to share with us a find made while CRHing, and it later gets nominated for the banner, it's not the fault of the original poster.  They were just excited about a find and wanted to tell others who share thier passion about it.  All threads like this serve to do is drive people away from this site.  Is that really what you want? 

If that's your goal here, to lower the population of TreasureNet, then you could always cancel your own account.  Just a suggestion....




I can only speak for myself, but I don't think anyone is trying to lower the population of this website, but instead are trying to not encourage future CRHers.  There is a distinction between the two.

Jim

Exactly 100% correct Jim, thankyou.
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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 03:47:35 PM
It's not the first time that it's happened so why does it matter? People on this website would be doing it already by just looking at this forum. Who cares. I say congrats to you for making the banner.

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Wheats 247
Buffalo 6
War Nic 6
Merc 0
Rosie 9
Quarter
Walking 15
Franklin 27
90% 82
40% 501
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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 04:17:51 PM
by and large those savvy enough to be scouring this web site / forum --CHR ing are already hunting --its telling locals in your area that can really kill your finds -- your bragging slits your own throat finds wize because you make your own "competitors" right where you live.
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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 04:33:28 PM
Same difference:  http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,233158.html
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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 04:37:19 PM
hasnt that been an unwritten rule on here for a long time anyways? i thought we solved this problem after that guy found the gold coin in the nickel roll?
Obviously not, as you can see from the banner right now.

What everyone seems to be forgetting here is that the Member Finds banner comes from member votes.  If other T'Net members feel that a CRHing find is worthy to be on the banner, then it will end up there.  These posts crying that finds from rolls don't belong on the banner are pretty darn rude if you want the truth. 

If a member decides that he or she wants to share with us a find made while CRHing, and it later gets nominated for the banner, it's not the fault of the original poster.  They were just excited about a find and wanted to tell others who share thier passion about it.  All threads like this serve to do is drive people away from this site.  Is that really what you want? 

If that's your goal here, to lower the population of TreasureNet, then you could always cancel your own account.  Just a suggestion....




I can only speak for myself, but I don't think anyone is trying to lower the population of this website, but instead are trying to not encourage future CRHers.  There is a distinction between the two.

Jim
It may not have been the original intention, but it could very easily be the end result.

And why not encourage CRHing?  Because one person honestly thinks they can suck up all the silver in their city/county/state?  Really??  Do you take the same approach to metal detecting, discouraging all those interested because you think you can dig it all up yourself?

And does anyone here honestly think that this is the only website on the planet that has discovered this phenomena?  Quick google search, COIN ROLL HUNTING..... 40,600 hits.  COIN ROLL SEARCHING.... 472,000 hits!

Oops!  Turns out people already know about it.  It's in Wikipedia for Pete's sake!

Look, all I'm saying here is that there's no need to go bashing someone's finds to discourage CRHing.  Do you really think that if the find isn't on the banner, that the topic can't be found on this site?

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Reply To This Topic #22 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 04:41:00 PM
by and large those savvy enough to be scouring this web site / forum --CHR ing are already hunting --its telling locals in your area that can really kill your finds -- your bragging slits your own throat finds wize because you make your own "competitors" right where you live.
If people choose to post their finds, it's affecting them, not the hobby as a whole.  CRHing isn't a secret anymore than metal detecting is.  I was doing it at 9 or 10 before I ever knew it had a name.

But, and be honest here, who do you know that has the time and resources to drive across the country to go snipe someone's hunting grounds?  If it was one town away, maybe, but I wouldn't take the time to even look at where the person's from that generated the post.

Can't we just say "Nice find!" and be done with it?  Why all the animosity?
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Reply To This Topic #23 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 04:43:35 PM
NEVER VOTE FOR THE BANNER FOR CRH FINDS!!!!!!

Now lots of people are gonna try it that would of never thought of it before.

Agreed!

Who voted???  That's insane!!!
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Reply To This Topic #24 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 04:48:56 PM
NEVER VOTE FOR THE BANNER FOR CRH FINDS!!!!!!

Now lots of people are gonna try it that would of never thought of it before.

Agreed!

Who voted???  That's insane!!!
You too?!?  Just because it's on the banner?

Here's an idea!  There's an entire section on this site dedicated to CRHing.  Let's get rid of it!  If someone brings it up in a different post somewhere, better yank that guy's membership!  There's about half-a-million other sites out there that speak about it.  Who's going to be ther first in line to start e-mailing them??

Wait, the coin rolls themselves might encourage this activity!  Burn them!!!

I didn't discover CRHing from this site, and I imagine there's a ton of other folks that can say the same.  Anyone that did discover it here, please raise your hands??

Jeeze, you guys would be the first in line in Salem, Mass to drown the witches about 400 years ago, huh?
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Reply To This Topic #25 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 04:49:53 PM
It's not the first time that it's happened so why does it matter? People on this website would be doing it already by just looking at this forum. Who cares. I say congrats to you for making the banner.
Thank you!!  Finally another voice of reason!
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Reply To This Topic #26 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 04:50:51 PM
Oops!  Turns out people already know about it.  It's in Wikipedia for Pete's sake!
Yes it is, but is it correct? I have not read it in a while. There were inconsistencies in it, I updated it and told some truths. I guess someone didn't like it and they deleted my entry. So they can visit  blob8

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Reply To This Topic #27 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 04:57:45 PM
Oops!  Turns out people already know about it.  It's in Wikipedia for Pete's sake!
Yes it is, but is it correct? I have not read it in a while. There were inconsistencies in it, I updated it and told some truths. I guess someone didn't like it and they deleted my entry. So they can visit  blob8
Don't know if it's right or not, but it's there for anyone to read.  I should check it out.  Sorry about the deletion, promise I didn't do it.  Smiley
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Reply To This Topic #28 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 04:59:22 PM
Here's what it has now.  Looks like whoever wrote it reads this site!

Coin roll hunting (often abbreviated "CRH") is the hobby of searching change pulled from circulation for collectible coins. The serious hobbyist usually obtains his coins from banks in the form of rolled coins.

Coin roll hunters obtain -- in the U.S., rolls of pennies, nickels, dimes, quarters, half dollars, and sometimes dollars. They may also ask bank tellers if they have any old currency set aside. Hunters open the rolls and search for old or collectible coins to save for a collection or to sell for profit. They then return the unwanted coins, referred to as "rejects" or "dumps", to another bank. It is considered poor etiquette by CRH'ers to return rejects to the same bank they were picked up from. If a batch of coins contains nothing of interest, the hunter says he has "been skunked".

There are three main objectives of coin roll hunters; sorting for composition, variety, and sets. Composition hunters hunt for precious metals (usually silver, sometimes copper). Variety hunters search for mint errors. Set hunters attempt to complete sets of a specific type of coin.

Prime targets of American coin roll hunters are silver dimes and quarters made before 1965, and silver half dollars from 1970 and earlier. Nickels are searched for silver "war nickels" (1942-1945) and older discontinued designs. Pennies are searched for wheat pennies (1909-1958) and the rare Indian Head penny (1859-1908). Some penny searchers save copper Lincoln Memorial cents (1959-1982), for the growing value as copper bullion. An occasional dime can also be found in penny rolls, giving the collector an instant bonus. The most common coin searched is the half dollar because of its low circulation volume. Since the coins have little or no turnover from hand to hand, they have been the best denomination choice for finding old and rare types. The half dollars from 1964 and earlier are composed of 90% silver, and the ones minted from 1965 through 1970 are 40% silver by composition. Silver prices rose dramatically in 2006, making 90% silver coins worth about 8 to 10 times their face value. Toughening economic conditions have caused people to deposit long-held stashes of coins at banks, unaware of their value as collectibles.
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Reply To This Topic #29 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 05:16:51 PM
thats the hobby in a nut shell
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Reply To This Topic #30 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 05:28:53 PM
NEVER VOTE FOR THE BANNER FOR CRH FINDS!!!!!!

Now lots of people are gonna try it that would of never thought of it before.

Seems many of the replies are off base, since the intent of TreasureFiend's original post for "never vote for the banner CRH finds" was because it will draw more attention to CRH, not because it is on the banner.

It is the same as a news story about the cost of gold and people running out buying detectors thinking all they have to do is turn on the detector and scoop up the gold, only to find out it's not that easy, requires time, skill and work and lose interest quickly. How many thousands of dollars do CRH people go through before finding such a find.................  dontknow I bet it is a lot.....













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Reply To This Topic #31 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 06:30:18 PM
NEVER VOTE FOR THE BANNER FOR CRH FINDS!!!!!!

Now lots of people are gonna try it that would of never thought of it before.

Agreed!

Who voted???  That's insane!!!
You too?!?  Just because it's on the banner?

Here's an idea!  There's an entire section on this site dedicated to CRHing.  Let's get rid of it!  If someone brings it up in a different post somewhere, better yank that guy's membership!  There's about half-a-million other sites out there that speak about it.  Who's going to be ther first in line to start e-mailing them??

Wait, the coin rolls themselves might encourage this activity!  Burn them!!!

I didn't discover CRHing from this site, and I imagine there's a ton of other folks that can say the same.  Anyone that did discover it here, please raise your hands??

Jeeze, you guys would be the first in line in Salem, Mass to drown the witches about 400 years ago, huh?

No, me three!! I think there was at least one person agreed before me.

Yes, the reason I don't like it because it is on the banner.

There are a few other sites talking about CRHing but members of those sites are mainly coin collectors.  The number of members is much smaller than this one.  A banner on this site will draw so many new guys to try it.  In a fix area, the more CRHers the less each one individual can find.  Coins are not fish, they don't lay eggs and multiply.  So a "sane" person will not advertise his/her hobby on mass scale, such as, voting banner on a major CRH score right here.   Many CRHers keep this hobby as "personal contact" hobby.  You only tell your spouse, best friend, people in a very small circle.  One of my best friend told me about CRH when I started collecting coins. None of my co-workers know I have this hobbly.

Will you be sad when you go to a bank for rolls and the teller tells you that 5 people ask already today?
Will you be angry that some greedy silver-seekers dump 5k of halves to a branch just to break the coin-machine so the bank refuse any large amount of coins including dime and penny?
Will you be frustrated if you have months of skunk boxes?

If you voted banner, you can't be bothered if above situations happen to you.

I called it an "insane behavior" not because I want to show that I knows better. It's because you not only hurt your own interest by increasing CRH activity in your own area but also hurt my interest and other CRHers by awakening/encouraging people in other cities. As an adult, you are entitled to do any crazy things as long as not hurting other people's interest. Otherwise, you will be called out, criticized.

This site exists as a platform between CRHers so we don't have to tell everyone around us (human nature to share feelings).   I am truly happy for other CRHer's big score and want to show some of my finds too (1913 India One Rupee, for example).  Why do we want this site to shut down? I appreciate this forum but I don't want to tell ABC or Fox or TMZ that everyone should join me for free silver!!!  
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Reply To This Topic #32 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 06:59:05 PM
This isn't like GS's roadtrip (Which was awesome! Not taking anything away here!) This is like $4,000. Everyone will be doing this now. I must agree with people and say no more banner.  Undecided
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Reply To This Topic #33 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 10:02:09 PM
First let me thank maine_Jim for posting this story WITH PICS i love hearing of these great stories i CRH as a kid and tried to get back into but it is hard work and takes a huge investment of time.

This is a treasure hunting forum and i do not think that any one here on the whole forum is blind to the fact of CRH you think that people don't check the change from the store and pull silver or wheats or anything that they find interesting.

one or two trips to the bank and they would give up on it these hoards are not all to common as the old pros on here will tell you hence why it takes a lot of effort, research, and MONEY to even do this hobby.

This should not entice anyone to move in on your ground heck a lot of people on this forum i doubt live in your area.

remove the greed from your hearts and allow yourself to be thankful of the many people on just this forum that have made your hunts more prosperous.

Thank Again  maine_Jim for your post
I truly enjoyed reading about your great find
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Reply To This Topic #34 Posted Dec 03, 2009, 06:18:55 AM
The problem with all this "unwanted" attention is common sense does NOT abound.  How many newbies in the last year thought there was nothing wrong with dumping the clad back where they bought the coin?  More than a few.
Happened to me right after I started, my dad told his brother who promptly ordered a box.  When he went to get it he could only afford half so he took it and searched it- found (1) 40% then took the clad back and tried to exchange it for the other half.  Needless to say when I went in and tried to buy the searched and unsearched it was a no go, and that was back when it was easy to get a bank to order.
This is also why we don't advertise where we live.  Older posters have changed names and or stopped posting finds, not because we quit.  Competition is already fierce here, I know of at least 10 other guys actively ordering boxes and I know they have heard of me.
Anyways thats my take,  HH  Mark

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Reply To This Topic #35 Posted Dec 04, 2009, 09:50:19 AM
Anyway you slice it, I am still out hunting and I am still finding silver. The day it stops ,which remains to seem far off in the future; I will move on. Two years ago we had similar arguments and I have seen large score after large score still happening. Learn to be thankful with much or little and you will enjoy the hobbie and life a lot more. A lot of the guys that were around when I made banner did not respond in the way that many guys are to maine Jim. The response was, as I think it should be a lot of pats on the back and congratulations. As I said when I made banner, that my find goes to show that the big score that you think will never happen to you most certainly will if you give it time. Before it happened to me I thought it would never happen and that the silver would dry up. That is my speel. Good luck and happy hunting.

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Reply To This Topic #36 Posted Dec 05, 2009, 07:38:54 AM
Well I hate to drag this one back to the top as I see it as a silly thread. But I was at the bookstore last night and picked up a magazine called "Coins". Well sure enough they have there own little section in there talking about CRH with  different peoples experiences. Me thinks that it's really only local competition that will bother you. I have some and we both order boxes and are all successfull. There's probably a lot of hunters out there. Most won't last forever as we've seen here. I think two of the biggest +'s in CRH are luck and having enough capital. Which both are hard to come buy.
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Reply To This Topic #37 Posted Dec 05, 2009, 08:13:35 AM
I get a kick out of reading as seeing photos of other peoples scores. In fact, it's almost as good as finding it myself.
I don't keep coin roll hunting a secret among family or friends. Besides ScoobaSteve, they all think It's a foolish hobby.
I'm not interested myself in banners,but I'm in favor of handing them out to those that deserve them.
Our finds that we post are not going to attract competition.
CRH is an oddball type of a hobby, kind of like collecting matchbooks, old firecracker labels,butterflies, etc.
I just don't see millions of people attracted to this hobby even if silver was $50.00 an oz.

In my humble opinion, all you Ebenezer's out there that are against giving a tip of the hat to those that bring in the big scores , are a bunch of greedy cheapskates.
HH
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Reply To This Topic #38 Posted Dec 05, 2009, 08:42:41 AM
This is the great conundrum we face in wanting to share the excitement of a great find with everyone who actually knows how we feel when the Treasure we have searched for is found. Are we shooting ourselves in the foot? There are treasure hunters and there are wannabees that don't have the perseverance to wait for that wonderful find. I think most people in our drive thru age don't have the patience to keep going on the meagre finds that are the norm. Most of us who have done this for quite awhile share a common bond that the world thinks is nuts. There's no feeling in the world like striking the motherlode. I think perhaps that sharing the find with people that understand our passion is almost as important as the find itself.
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Reply To This Topic #39 Posted Dec 05, 2009, 10:11:28 AM
I say we all dust off our metal detectors and get out and find some banner worthy things to bump that photo right off the end!
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Reply To This Topic #40 Posted Dec 05, 2009, 10:29:41 AM
In my humble opinion, all you Ebenezer's out there that are against giving a tip of the hat to those that bring in the big scores , are a bunch of greedy cheapskates.
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Keep this in mind regarding GREED RH,

"The point is, ladies and gentleman, that greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And greed, you mark my words, will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA. Thank you very much."
   
  Part of the speech by Gordon Gekko in the movie Wallstreet.  Awesome movie if any of you have not seen it yet.   Grin

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Reply To This Topic #41 Posted Dec 05, 2009, 11:02:28 AM
Jim there is a little problem with the movie quote though. It comes from holleywood for one, which should never be used to guage anything involving morality or right and wrong in my opinion.


"The point is, ladies and gentleman, that greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And greed, you mark my words, will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA. Thank you very much"

money or greed for money is the root of all evil.

Greed instead of generosity stomps out life like a dieing flame- Just look at some of countries in Africa.

LOVE is the very oposite of Greed. Love gives of itself and is self sacraficing.

I think judging by the way the world is today, the fact that mankinds surge has been upward is highly questionable.

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Reply To This Topic #42 Posted Dec 05, 2009, 11:18:56 AM
Ditto on what Goldensilver said.

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Reply To This Topic #43 Posted Dec 05, 2009, 11:19:50 AM
OK, that's it. The end is near! The sky is falling! Coin roll hunting will never be the same again.

I am being overly dramatic here, but sure more people are probably going to see the banner and try CRH themselves, but just like with the increase in metal detectorists in the last few years, people are still making killer finds though. Besides, just like with metal detecting, most people will get discouraged and lose interest in it after a while anyway.

Although......personally if I found that much silver, no one would know. Well, almost no one. Grin





































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Reply To This Topic #44 Posted Dec 05, 2009, 11:26:18 AM
Jim there is a little problem with the movie quote though. It comes from holleywood for one, which should never be used to guage anything involving morality or right and wrong in my opinion.


"The point is, ladies and gentleman, that greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And greed, you mark my words, will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA. Thank you very much"

money or greed for money is the root of all evil.

Greed instead of generosity stomps out life like a dieing flame- Just look at some of countries in Africa.

LOVE is the very oposite of Greed. Love gives of itself and is self sacraficing.

I think judging by the way the world is today, the fact that mankinds surge has been upward is highly questionable.

Golden Silver






I was not being serious, hence the smiley face.  

But what is the real meaning of "greed"?  The term "greed" is thrown about by people who often use it to describe somebody that has more than they do.  Or, to try and place their values on others and make judgments.  

RH seems to infer that those of us who like to keep CRHing to a lower profile in an effort to gain more keepers (whether this is possible or not is open to speculation) is being greedy and a cheapskate--this whole topic in this thread appears to be based on many not wanting to see CRHing finds posted in such a way as to encourage others to start CRHing or bring said finds to light, and thus possibly cause new CRHers to move in on their territory---NOT in any way being mad at the CRHer who found the coins or not being congratulatory simply because he found them (which is what some here seem to want to portray by their posts damning those who don't like the banners).

Perhaps to feel this way can be called "greedy" in wanting to get as many keepers as you can for yourself, but what about CRHers who want to find as many coins as possible and go on roadtrips all the time, covering wide areas of their state and other states to find coins that other CRHer will now not be able to recover, is this greedy?  What about concocting schemes to trade low value Indian head pennies and such to tellers for their valuable silver coins and thus make nice monetary gains, is this greedy?    

I think the term "greedy" is just a value judgment that really has no true definition.  I imagine the communist countries who don't like capitalism like to call Americans "greedy" as well.

I would say the term RH used for "greed" should really be "competitive", since other CRHers in your area can lessen your finds, it is better that there are few as possible if you want to find as many keepers as possible.  

If a person wants to start using judgmental terms one could say wanting to have finds posted in a banner where all can see and give props is PRIDEFUL.  Isn't "pride" supposed to be bad like "greed"?

I don't think either is bad, but I am just pointing out where things start to go when holier than thou type judgments are made.

Just my opinions.

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Reply To This Topic #45 Posted Dec 05, 2009, 11:29:30 AM
Jim there is a little problem with the movie quote though. It comes from holleywood for one, which should never be used to guage anything involving morality or right and wrong in my opinion.


"The point is, ladies and gentleman, that greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And greed, you mark my words, will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA. Thank you very much"

money or greed for money is the root of all evil.

Greed instead of generosity stomps out life like a dieing flame- Just look at some of countries in Africa.

LOVE is the very oposite of Greed. Love gives of itself and is self sacraficing.

I think judging by the way the world is today, the fact that mankinds surge has been upward is highly questionable.

Golden Silver

Very well put. I couldn't agree more.
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Reply To This Topic #46 Posted Dec 09, 2009, 05:40:43 AM
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If other T'Net members feel that a CRHing find is worthy to be on the banner, then it will end up there.
i have to disagree....when i found those 16 rolls of Bens in original rolls many people voted banner but it got nowhere. not that i care, it didn't lessen the thrill of finding them. there were many CRH finds that were equal to or better than the one that is up there now that got voted banner and never made it. dontknow
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Reply To This Topic #47 Posted Dec 09, 2009, 10:01:13 AM
Mistergee I remember that find and yes you should have been up there with us for sure. But you know a that you made a banner find and that is all that matters.

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Reply To This Topic #48 Posted Dec 09, 2009, 02:05:01 PM
Mistergee I remember that find and yes you should have been up there with us for sure. But you know a that you made a banner find and that is all that matters.

golden silver


Banner, shmanner.   He found 16 rolls of BU Bens!!  That is what really matters.   hello2

I hope he didn't cash them in when silver was low a while back. 


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Reply To This Topic #49 Posted Dec 10, 2009, 05:01:18 AM
thanks guys...nope i still have around 300. i gave some out to friends with collections. i'm still going thru them slowly picking out the best 100 to be graded by PCGS. no FBL's yet but i'm keeping my fingers crossed with 4 more rolls to look through. it just hasn't been on the top of the priority list lately. there's alot going on around here but i hope to have them completed sometime after the new year.
OH and i almost forgot, you guys gave me "most unusual find" or something like that in last years CRH AWARDS. that was enough recognition for me. i'll try to dig that up. we should do it again this year.
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Reply To This Topic #50 Posted Dec 10, 2009, 06:29:51 AM
it took a few minutes but i found it...
 http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,208258.0.html
Immy started this one. we should do this again for this year. we've had some notable finds that deserve some recognition. i would do it but it will take alot of time sifting through all the posts and i am limited on time. although i'm sure there would be help from everyone. what do you think Immy, want to give it another go? i'll help as much as possible.
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Reply To This Topic #51 Posted Dec 10, 2009, 02:56:38 PM
I think something important that I haven't seen mentioned yet is this...

This thread (and several of it's participants) are all about disallowing people to vote for a find they think is worthy of the banner.  Do you really want to block people's right to vote for something?  If so, where does it end???
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Reply To This Topic #52 Posted Dec 10, 2009, 03:11:12 PM
it took a few minutes but i found it...
 http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,208258.0.html
Immy started this one. we should do this again for this year. we've had some notable finds that deserve some recognition. i would do it but it will take alot of time sifting through all the posts and i am limited on time. although i'm sure there would be help from everyone. what do you think Immy, want to give it another go? i'll help as much as possible.

I think that would be a great idea  thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #53 Posted Dec 10, 2009, 03:17:44 PM
I think something important that I haven't seen mentioned yet is this...

This thread (and several of it's participants) are all about disallowing people to vote for a find they think is worthy of the banner.  Do you really want to block people's right to vote for something?  If so, where does it end???


I think you are greatly mischaracterizing what many have said.

Many are urging and recommending and wishing that people not nominate big CRHer finds for banner.  There is a BIG difference between this type of action and BLOCKING or DISALLOWING as you said, which both involve force or direct action to stop something. 

Nobody here said that Treasurenet should not allow CRHer finds to be banners or otherwise force CRHer finds to not become banners.

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Reply To This Topic #54 Posted Dec 10, 2009, 04:59:05 PM
I think something important that I haven't seen mentioned yet is this...

This thread (and several of it's participants) are all about disallowing people to vote for a find they think is worthy of the banner.  Do you really want to block people's right to vote for something?  If so, where does it end???


I think you are greatly mischaracterizing what many have said.

Many are urging and recommending and wishing that people not nominate big CRHer finds for banner.  There is a BIG difference between this type of action and BLOCKING or DISALLOWING as you said, which both involve force or direct action to stop something. 

Nobody here said that Treasurenet should not allow CRHer finds to be banners or otherwise force CRHer finds to not become banners.

Jim
Read the title of the thread.
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Reply To This Topic #55 Posted Dec 10, 2009, 05:13:42 PM
I think something important that I haven't seen mentioned yet is this...

This thread (and several of it's participants) are all about disallowing people to vote for a find they think is worthy of the banner.  Do you really want to block people's right to vote for something?  If so, where does it end???


I think you are greatly mischaracterizing what many have said.

Many are urging and recommending and wishing that people not nominate big CRHer finds for banner.  There is a BIG difference between this type of action and BLOCKING or DISALLOWING as you said, which both involve force or direct action to stop something. 

Nobody here said that Treasurenet should not allow CRHer finds to be banners or otherwise force CRHer finds to not become banners.

Jim
Read the title of the thread.


Since you haven't been posting on the CRHing site for too long (at least from what I have seen), I will fill you in on a post that came out about a year or so ago.  Goldensilver or Mojo (I cannot remember which now) came out with 10 commandments of CRHing, or something to that effect.  Some here since refer to it as RULES of CRHing.  Many have added to it so it is more than 10 now.

These are suggestions that one should follow to be successful in CRHing, and also to not screw things up for the rest of CRHers in general.  Like don't dump where you buy, etc.  I am sure the post is on here somewhere.

I imagine that is what the original poster meant when he said RULE, in other words to add it to the COMMANDMENT list. 

Maybe you don't fully understand this, but no poster here can FORCE or RULE another poster to do something they don't want to do.  The moderators at Treasurenet make the rules, not a CRHing poster.

Maybe the original poster of this thread can respond as to what he meant by his term RULE.

But this is how I see it.

Jim
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Reply To This Topic #56 Posted Dec 11, 2009, 07:22:51 AM
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Reply To This Topic #57 Posted Dec 11, 2009, 11:44:42 AM
I think something important that I haven't seen mentioned yet is this...

This thread (and several of it's participants) are all about disallowing people to vote for a find they think is worthy of the banner.  Do you really want to block people's right to vote for something?  If so, where does it end???


I think you are greatly mischaracterizing what many have said.

Many are urging and recommending and wishing that people not nominate big CRHer finds for banner.  There is a BIG difference between this type of action and BLOCKING or DISALLOWING as you said, which both involve force or direct action to stop something. 

Nobody here said that Treasurenet should not allow CRHer finds to be banners or otherwise force CRHer finds to not become banners.

Jim
Read the title of the thread.


Since you haven't been posting on the CRHing site for too long (at least from what I have seen), I will fill you in on a post that came out about a year or so ago.  Goldensilver or Mojo (I cannot remember which now) came out with 10 commandments of CRHing, or something to that effect.  Some here since refer to it as RULES of CRHing.  Many have added to it so it is more than 10 now.

These are suggestions that one should follow to be successful in CRHing, and also to not screw things up for the rest of CRHers in general.  Like don't dump where you buy, etc.  I am sure the post is on here somewhere.

I imagine that is what the original poster meant when he said RULE, in other words to add it to the COMMANDMENT list. 

Maybe you don't fully understand this, but no poster here can FORCE or RULE another poster to do something they don't want to do.  The moderators at Treasurenet make the rules, not a CRHing poster.

Maybe the original poster of this thread can respond as to what he meant by his term RULE.

But this is how I see it.

Jim
You told me that no one here is saying that T'Net shouldn't allow CHR finds to make it onto the banner.  My response was that, yes, in fact, the orginal author of this thread is making just that statement. 

Please note that I didn't say I agreed with this idea, in fact I am wholly against it.  But what you don't seem to understand is that some folks here are absolutely backing the original idea to stop CRH finds from making the banner which, in turn, means negating or ignoring the votes for these finds.  Please note that I'm not saying that anyone is taking away anything, but just the fact that people want to take this away is pretty appalling.

And I don't believe I was mischaracterizing what you said specifically, more to the overall vein of the thread.
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