Post Your Favorite Military Find!!!

Inspired by IronPatch...no brainer for me.  This should be a good thread if everyone who has ever dug military participates...post em up!

1790-1815 Royal Artillery Sword Cross Belt Plate

   Rev officer coat button probably in the running for the best known example of the early pattern. I have never heard of a non dug one and it's better than any shown in current publications.  I'll also add my 17mm find which I believe also might be a contender for best known that size .  Both buttons have perfect shanks and the first came out of the ground much the same way a gold coin would. I also found a CT copper that day in 2001. The green and gold one came several years later on a day that I received a call to hunt basically on the spur of the moment.  Sure glad I went!

   

   

   

Wonderful finds   For me, although I'm partial to my more "photogenic" early military buttons  and buckles,  if I had to choose just one military find based on both age, condition and rarity it would be this U.S. belt plate from around 1810. It came out of the ground with very light corrosion due to it being under the porch overhang of the old Logan Inn for almost 200 years.

   Rev officer coat button probably in the running for the best known example of the early pattern. I have never heard of a non dug one and it's better than any shown in current publications.  I'll also add my 17mm find which I believe also might be a contender for best known that size .  Both buttons have perfect shanks and the first came out of the ground much the same way a gold coin would. I also found a CT copper that day in 2001. The green and gold one came several years later on a day that I received a call to hunt basically on the spur of the moment.  Sure glad I went!

   

   

   

These are beautiful buttons, if you don't mind me asking, are you speaking of the same Rev war that we had?  I'm not familiar with your guys' history at all.. I only ask out of curiousity, no disrespect.. Do you still have the buttons? and, are those British or American?

    They are Loyalist and date 1776-1781 which probably answers your first question.

    After the Revolution many Loyalists and British went North to settle, and I guess lose a few buttons.    The first I received a very good offer shortly after I found it and decided to sell thinking (and hoping) I would find another nice Coat size.  Turns out it was the right call because that Fall I did just that.  I also got it's twin 2 years ago.  The green patina one I still have which makes three total.  I have no plans to part with these and am very content how it all worked out.

Inspired by IronPatch...no brainer for me.  This should be a good thread if everyone who has ever dug military participates...post em up!

1790-1815 Royal Artillery Sword Cross Belt Plate

  You'll have a hard time topping that one!  But I plan to stay 3 steps ahead of you to try and prevent it. 

Wonderful finds    For me, although I'm partial to my more "photogenic" early military buttons  and buckles,  if I had to choose just one military find based on both age, condition and rarity it would be this U.S. belt plate from around 1810. It came out of the ground with very light corrosion due to it being under the porch overhang of the old Logan Inn for almost 200 years.

   Good one.    I waited quite a while to find my British one and had I decided to try and avoid the 1,000 or so mosquito bites that day it still might be in the dirt.

Wonderful finds   For me, although I'm partial to my more "photogenic" early military buttons  and buckles,  if I had to choose just one military find based on both age, condition and rarity it would be this U.S. belt plate from around 1810. It came out of the ground with very light corrosion due to it being under the porch overhang of the old Logan Inn for almost 200 years.

That would be a favorite of mine too...somewhat partial to plates.  And to find it unbent with all attachments is very nice!

Wonderful finds    For me, although I'm partial to my more "photogenic" early military buttons  and buckles,  if I had to choose just one military find based on both age, condition and rarity it would be this U.S. belt plate from around 1810. It came out of the ground with very light corrosion due to it being under the porch overhang of the old Logan Inn for almost 200 years.

   Good one.    I waited quite a while to find my British one and had I decided to try and avoid the 1,000 or so mosquito bites that day it still might be in the dirt.

id like to see this one

   

    British looks the same, except mine has a bend. I'll post a pic if i still have one.


    ....found one.

   

They look plain    I've never seen plates like these

   That's because they are...  unfortunately!

This was dug up in a Maryland bottle dump. The watch is in the picture for size comparison.

  Nice one! I have many 1812 buttons but am no where close to any 1812 action.  If you hunt old sites military finds can and will happen no matter where you are! 

DROOP WINGED EALGLE
CONFEDERATE OFFICERS BUTTON

It was hard to choose but I picked 3. hope that's ok
 Texas Buckle, less than 20 known
Georgia Military Institute button, less than 12 known
MVC officers button, less than 20 known

Very cool items here..I could use a little info please - I would like to know the age of these - A few things found throughout the chicago area and I'm not sure what they are...The small button I think is a reverse navy button? the other button has 1868 - 1818 under the eagle next to the shield and on the back it has C F or G F FOSTER SON & CO  CHICAGO ILL.
Thanks, Bill T.

 The button, it's just a backmark. I have one too.

 Maybe the sword pin is associated with the Shriners?

 The button, it's just a backmark. I have one too.

 Maybe the sword pin is associated with the Shriners?

Thanks Iron Patch,
 I never thought of Shriners..Thought the button was a good one, Is it a navy button?
Thanks again for the info,Bill T.

 The button, it's just a backmark. I have one too.

 Maybe the sword pin is associated with the Shriners?

Thanks Iron Patch,
 I never thought of Shriners..Thought the button was a good one, Is it a navy button?
Thanks again for the info,Bill T.

  No, not Navy but I still like mine so would consider it a good find.

 Some really cool stuff. The button with the eagle and anchor on the back dates about 1810. It was intended to be a navy button but one of several things happened. The company that originally stamped the face was taken over by another company, the company that made the button had navy buttons left over after the design was changed and used just reversed the button, or the shank was simply put on the wrong side. That button is in Albert's book the number is NA75B. It's worth $10 to $20 or so. The other button is an Illinois state seal. 1818 is the date the state was admitted to the union and the 1868 is the date  that  the state seal was changed.  The button dates  about 1900.The piece with the A looks like a rosette for a horse harness. the cross swords is an Indian war cavalry hatpiece. The other sword I have no idea. I hope this helps

Some really cool stuff. The button with the eagle and anchor on the back dates about 1810. It was intended to be a navy button but one of several things happened. The company that originally stamped the face was taken over by another company, the company that made the button had navy buttons left over after the design was changed and used just reversed the button, or the shank was simply put on the wrong side. That button is in Albert's book the number is NA75B. It's worth $10 to $20 or so. The other button is an Illinois state seal. 1818 is the date the state was admitted to the union and the 1868 is the date  that  the state seal was changed.  The button dates  about 1900.The piece with the A looks like a rosette for a horse harness. the cross swords is an Indian war cavalry hatpiece. The other sword I have no idea. I hope this helps

Thanks a bunch vayank54.........

Wonderful finds    For me, although I'm partial to my more "photogenic" early military buttons  and buckles,  if I had to choose just one military find based on both age, condition and rarity it would be this U.S. belt plate from around 1810. It came out of the ground with very light corrosion due to it being under the porch overhang of the old Logan Inn for almost 200 years.

   Good one.    I waited quite a while to find my British one and had I decided to try and avoid the 1,000 or so mosquito bites that day it still might be in the dirt.

First, Merry Christmas!  Iron patch, I got a neat book for Christmass today by Neuman and Kravic that pictures some mighty cool Rev. war finds. It lists this buckle as far back as 1775. That makes sense regarding my buckle, because it was the Rev war troops who spent a lot of time at the Logan Inn (while the British were camped across the river in lambertville).  Hey, buy the way, I've been looking at those brass bottoms caps to the old rev war holsters and I'll bet we've probably foud a few but failed to identify them 9probably thought they were flask tops)

Wonderful finds    For me, although I'm partial to my more "photogenic" early military buttons  and buckles,  if I had to choose just one military find based on both age, condition and rarity it would be this U.S. belt plate from around 1810. It came out of the ground with very light corrosion due to it being under the porch overhang of the old Logan Inn for almost 200 years.

   Good one.    I waited quite a while to find my British one and had I decided to try and avoid the 1,000 or so mosquito bites that day it still might be in the dirt.

First, Merry Christmas!  Iron patch, I got a neat book for Christmass today by Neuman and Kravic that pictures some mighty cool Rev. war finds. It lists this buckle as far back as 1775. That makes sense regarding my buckle, because it was the Rev war troops who spent a lot of time at the Logan Inn (while the British were camped across the river in lambertville).  Hey, buy the way, I've been looking at those brass bottoms caps to the old rev war holsters and I'll bet we've probably foud a few but failed to identify them 9probably thought they were flask tops)

Brass caps?  What page are they on?

Wonderful finds    For me, although I'm partial to my more "photogenic" early military buttons  and buckles,  if I had to choose just one military find based on both age, condition and rarity it would be this U.S. belt plate from around 1810. It came out of the ground with very light corrosion due to it being under the porch overhang of the old Logan Inn for almost 200 years.

   Good one.    I waited quite a while to find my British one and had I decided to try and avoid the 1,000 or so mosquito bites that day it still might be in the dirt.

First, Merry Christmas!  Iron patch, I got a neat book for Christmass today by Neuman and Kravic that pictures some mighty cool Rev. war finds. It lists this buckle as far back as 1775. That makes sense regarding my buckle, because it was the Rev war troops who spent a lot of time at the Logan Inn (while the British were camped across the river in lambertville).  Hey, buy the way, I've been looking at those brass bottoms caps to the old rev war holsters and I'll bet we've probably foud a few but failed to identify them 9probably thought they were flask tops)

   Yes, a happy holiday to you as well! 

   I have had that book for quite a while and it is worth every penny.   A couple years back I was talking to someone who is an 1812 plate collector, and no doubt has one of the better collections in the US. Anyway, we got into it about the dating of the plates and he said there's quite a bit you can learn about the time frame based on the attachments, diameter, and to the degree the plate is concave. So there might be more to find out if you go looking. Also, people tend to think all these plain types are early as 1812, but that is not the case.

   I'll add some pictures of his collection since he did give me permission to do so at the time.

  Plate Collection. 

That plate collection is INCREDIBLE!!!
I dont fing many Military finds because i hunt mainly cellar holes.
But i did find this 1st regt. artillary button at one of the cellars.

Wonderful finds    For me, although I'm partial to my more "photogenic" early military buttons  and buckles,  if I had to choose just one military find based on both age, condition and rarity it would be this U.S. belt plate from around 1810. It came out of the ground with very light corrosion due to it being under the porch overhang of the old Logan Inn for almost 200 years.

   Good one.    I waited quite a while to find my British one and had I decided to try and avoid the 1,000 or so mosquito bites that day it still might be in the dirt.

First, Merry Christmas!  Iron patch, I got a neat book for Christmass today by Neuman and Kravic that pictures some mighty cool Rev. war finds. It lists this buckle as far back as 1775. That makes sense regarding my buckle, because it was the Rev war troops who spent a lot of time at the Logan Inn (while the British were camped across the river in lambertville).  Hey, buy the way, I've been looking at those brass bottoms caps to the old rev war holsters and I'll bet we've probably foud a few but failed to identify them 9probably thought they were flask tops)

Brass caps?  What page are they on?

Romeo, I was talking about those brass end pieces on the bottom of the holsters (pg. 146). They look like parts that could easily fall off, don't they? I'll bet we've found a few but might have discounted them as just crushed brass bands to something.

John...that's why I keep everything...never know when nothing could be something!

For me it is not one, but two military finds.  Found one week and about 25 feet apart, these two buttons are circa 1790 British Royal Regiment of Artillery buttons.  I also found part of a beret badge a small shield and more than 100 civilian buttons and 11 large copper coins at the wooded site.

I was thrilled when I found my first one, even though I was not sure what it was.  It has no shank and a slight crack, but still was a thrill.



Then a week later I found the second one and knew immediately what I had.  Complete shank and in amazing shape!

For me it is not one, but two military finds.  Found one week and about 25 feet apart, these two buttons are circa 1790 British Royal Regiment of Artillery buttons.  I also found part of a beret badge a small shield and more than 100 civilian buttons and 11 large copper coins at the wooded site.

I was thrilled when I found my first one, even though I was not sure what it was.  It has no shank and a slight crack, but still was a thrill.



Then a week later I found the second one and knew immediately what I had.  Complete shank and in amazing shape!

   I like those too, and actually used to find them on a semi-regular basis, but not anymore.  I have several nice ones so I guess I don't really need anymore. But it's always nice seeing an "old friend" in the dirt.

  Plate Collection. 

Hey IP, if you ever run into this collector again, could you ask him what this badge I have circled is?  Or maybe you already know.  It appears the big end of the bugle is facing right as you look at it and is the first one I have seen that way.  Thanks

 Found in Mourlautern Germany . 1793 French/Prussian battle field.

  Plate Collection. 

Hey IP, if you ever run into this collector again, could you ask him what this badge I have circled is?  Or maybe you already know.  It appears the big end of the bugle is facing right as you look at it and is the first one I have seen that way.  Thanks

  Will do but not sure when we'll cross paths again.

hi all here my only 2 early finds for this year  a buckle from a Colony of Victoria gold trooper 1852 and a helmet plate of a New South Wales police   1880


                                             tinpan

Hello Everyone, I am posting an American artillery button from the war of 1812 era. I found this button on private property here in Michigan about 15 miles or so from where the Battle of the Raisin River took place in 1813

Hello Everyone, I am posting an American artillery button from the war of 1812 era. I found this button on private property here in Michigan about 15 miles or so from where the Battle of the Raisin River took place in 1813

   By the looks of your avatar you did clean it, and looks like it came out good.   

Hello Everyone, I am posting an American artillery button from the war of 1812 era. I found this button on private property here in Michigan about 15 miles or so from where the Battle of the Raisin River took place in 1813

   By the looks of your avatar you did clean it, and looks like it came out good.   

Iron Patch yes I did clean it with aluminum jelly

My favorite military finds must be the macehead and the flamethrower. I still remember the fantastic feeling when i was so lucky to find them.

WW1 Army Flare Gun

WW1 Army Flare Gun

"very  nice"

Where'd ya find that?

Hammer Field WW2 Air Base here in Cali

That's an easy one for me. Found this Officer's sword belt plate in a "hunted out" field. Best feeling yet pulling something cool outta the ground. I had to throw in the near perfect confederate Artillery button too cuz its pretty sweet.

awesome thread!!
my favorite military button, pretty old for michigan

this by far is mine, you all know him and you all like him, good ole Capt. Hawker!

if you don't you can research Capt. Erle Hawker of the 62nd and the story is there, as for the nameplate, just glad it was there to be found, I can't say for certain what it's intended purpose was but it opened up the door for someother great finds.
http://www.62ndregiment.org/Erle_Hawker.htm

 Here is mine    
 I found two of these this year.  This one being the best. 

                                                    VPR

This is my 1810 US militia artillery officers sword belt plate found this summer at an old cellar hole abandoned since the 1880's I am especially proud because of the research and effort it took to even find the site in the woods.

THAT is so flippin awesome. What's the story behind finding the place? Did you know it might have some military significance before you found the area?

No it was the first of many such relics on the site. Our guys could have lobbed cannon balls at each other though!

   Awesome finds everyone
Like IP says ..... finds can and will happen no matter where you are.
So, i'm gonna add my 2 favorites to this great thread. I'm no where near a military site.

   No.1  A heart martingale which Mark Parker replied - may well have seen military action.

                          

   No.2  A US Calvary Curb Bit Chain  Found in the early 80's with my Coinmaster 4 D/B

                                

The story of finding the cellar hole; I use maps from the 1867 county atlas and 1905 topo maps as well as modern topos and compare them all to find homesites that appear on the 1867 map and are gone by 1905 then make a guess where that spot is on a modern topo then use that maps GPS data to get me there using my GPS handheld unit. In this case there were no signs at all of the old home site in the old groth forest and my educated GPS guess was off by only 100 yards or so so I went in all metal and ran lines looking for the iron patch. as soon as i hit the iron it was almost dark I hunted the iron for about an hour I found my first seated in 5 minutes then an Indian cent and I knew I had found my spot. I might be the only living soul who knows that it exists. On this site I found relics spanning late 1700s to mid 1800s in 2010 I will be using my new explorer to hunt it for my first 1700s coin!  

  Ok, must be time for round two! 

  Revolutionary War cartridge badge. (Dug in 2002)

The story of finding the cellar hole; I use maps from the 1867 county atlas and 1905 topo maps as well as modern topos and compare them all to find homesites that appear on the 1867 map and are gone by 1905 then make a guess where that spot is on a modern topo then use that maps GPS data to get me there using my GPS handheld unit. In this case there were no signs at all of the old home site in the old groth forest and my educated GPS guess was off by only 100 yards or so so I went in all metal and ran lines looking for the iron patch. as soon as i hit the iron it was almost dark I hunted the iron for about an hour I found my first seated in 5 minutes then an Indian cent and I knew I had found my spot. I might be the only living soul who knows that it exists. On this site I found relics spanning late 1700s to mid 1800s in 2010 I will be using my new explorer to hunt it for my first 1700s coin!  

Thanks, that's great info. I'll have to try it.

  Ok, must be time for round two! 

  Revolutionary War cartridge badge. (Dug in 2002)

That would have been one for restoration!  Any idea where it is now?  Has it been restored?

Here's my round two.  Not much to look at but my only verifiable Rev. War find...lot's of history in the crusty button frag!  Royal Provincial pewter.

  Ok, must be time for round two! 

  Revolutionary War cartridge badge. (Dug in 2002)

That would have been one for restoration!  Any idea where it is now?  Has it been restored?

   Only thing I ever heard was it broke in the attemp, but I can't be 100% sure of that.  It was a nasty bend so something I had no intentions to test my luck on.  I assume it's still with the same collector down South.

Here's my round two.  Not much to look at but my only verifiable Rev. War find...lot's of history in the crusty button frag!  Royal Provincial pewter.

 
  We'll definitely be working on your upgrade in 2010.  I have found more of those than any other button so I think your chances are decent.

Here's my round two.  Not much to look at but my only verifiable Rev. War find...lot's of history in the crusty button frag!  Royal Provincial pewter.

 
  We'll definitely be working on your upgrade in 2010.  I have found more of those than any other button so I think your chances are decent.

An upgrade would be nice!  Maybe even a promotion to officer!

Here's my round two.  Not much to look at but my only verifiable Rev. War find...lot's of history in the crusty button frag!  Royal Provincial pewter.

 
  We'll definitely be working on your upgrade in 2010.  I have found more of those than any other button so I think your chances are decent.

An upgrade would be nice!  Maybe even a promotion to officer!

  I figure most were worn by the KAR so that is very possible.

Guy's all good military finds indeed!
  
 I have two I know are with the help of (Iron Patch),(DonSj),(JohnnyI)! The first two Pics.
10 Reg.Continental Army & A British Naval Lieutenant button.
The third Pic.I added one that came from the same site that I feel is also but was hard to see and still is!
The fouth Pic is a civil war Slide Buckle like the one on this site.But was also dug with the Rev. War buttons. http://www.civilwarpreservations.co...tItem=BB335&CategoryType=relics
The last Pics. I was hoping for input on as they are three heavy made buttons found with Spanish cobs
and cut bird shot that when I look the shot up it is always spanish related it seems.And with the info from this site could be spanish military buttons.http://www.artifacts.org/Mission.htm
Anyway guy's if you don't think they are I'll be glad to remove them as I'm only going by these sites and have no books or nothing saying for sure.Thanks!

Wow so many nice finds!  Makes me want the spring to come that much quicker.  here's my 2 best buttons, 1st Regiment Mass. Volunt. Militia, and a Duke of Wellington 33rd Regiment.

battlefield find:
A 1813 headgear badge,Prussia

Guess this doesn't constitute one find but these were all found in a corridor maybe 75 yards wide x 150 yards long.  My now long time partner and I hadn't been out too much together when I uncovered one shell in someone else's abandoned dig hole.  After that my partner went nuts on CW artillery - you can see some of the result - he found 8, me 4...of course he was working nights at the time.  Located in Northern VA.   If you look at that solo shell, you'll see a rock beside it.  If you look closely you'll see a groove.  That shell buried itself in the rock creating the groove.  The rock actually was on top of the shell.  I was fortunate enough to be able to recover both.  11 - 10# Parrots, 1 - 20#er.

hi all here my only 2 early finds for this year  a buckle from a Colony of Victoria gold trooper 1852 and a helmet plate of a New South Wales police   1880


                                             tinpan

Thats awesome Tinny,You were supposed to alert me anytime you found any Tongue and Wreath parts ;DWhat else are you hiding!!!?

Shoot, military huh?  Hmmmmmmmmn,  One thing not found in abundance in my area is military relics and buttons.  I have a Eagle Box plate, believe 1840s, and did find the only known USTE button, so guess have to say those two are my favorite of the military finds...............
I sold the USTE button back in the mid 90s, but heard it resold for about 4 times what I got,  wow,  but, at the time the amount I got was to me a great amount. 

Did find a 1840s Eagle Boxplate years back.

Also a Martingale, but do not know for sure if it is considered Military or not............

LOL, I forgot about my best find for 2009, I guess that is considered Military, the Union Greens button, circa 1812.

Did find a Rev War button in 2003,  Dragoon button

Don

Shoot, military huh?  Hmmmmmmmmn,  One thing not found in abundance in my area is military relics and buttons.  I have a Eagle Box plate, believe 1840s, and did find the only known USTE button, so guess have to say those two are my favorite of the military finds...............
I sold the USTE button back in the mid 90s, but heard it resold for about 4 times what I got,  wow,  but, at the time the amount I got was to me a great amount. 

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Did find a 1840s Eagle Boxplate years back.

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Also a Martingale, but do not know for sure if it is considered Military or not............

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LOL, I forgot about my best find for 2009, I guess that is considered Military, the Union Greens button, circa 1812.

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Did find a Rev War button in 2003,  Dragoon button

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Don

   With quality like that just imagine if you did dig military in numbers.  It's pretty amazing just how good it is.

German dump-site find:

1840's pattern US buckle

German dump-site find:

1840's pattern US buckle

Really?

 

There must be a AWESOME story behind THAT one....

showed it in the CW forum,a year ago:
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,216593.0.html

Both from my own land;

1) a 1940's Nazi Mortar, live. The Military came and blew it up. They said , "It was very healthy."

2) One of the first handguns, Circa 1380. Known as a handgonne or hand cannon.

Here is a favorite button of mine.  Circa 1800, a 41st of Foot officers.   I am not a historical military expert, but I have read that if not for the reputation of the 41st, the US may have tried to take Canada at the end of the War of 1812. 

Here is a favorite button of mine.  Circa 1800, a 41st of Foot officers.   I am not a historical military expert, but I have read that if not for the reputation of the 41st, the US may have tried to take Canada at the end of the War of 1812. 

   That's a great War of 1812 find!

Since the theme seems to be Martingales, I will show mine found about 18 inches down in a brief, tick ridden hunt.  I have not yet returned to the site which was once a mill site.



I also found some nice CW era buttons, one is a 3 piece Virginia Militia Button, the other an Infantry Officer's button.

Here is a favorite button of mine.  Circa 1800, a 41st of Foot officers.   I am not a historical military expert, but I have read that if not for the reputation of the 41st, the US may have tried to take Canada at the end of the War of 1812. 

   That's a great War of 1812 find!

Thanks IP, I don't think I ever found another like it on the internet.  I've been lucky enough to find two.  I did see a replica somewhere I think, though.

Here is a favorite button of mine.  Circa 1800, a 41st of Foot officers.   I am not a historical military expert, but I have read that if not for the reputation of the 41st, the US may have tried to take Canada at the end of the War of 1812. 

   That's a great War of 1812 find!

Thanks IP, I don't think I ever found another like it on the internet.  I've been lucky enough to find two.  I did see a replica somewhere I think, though.

   The 41st buttons are actually one of the more common regimentals the relic hunters dig around the Niagara area.  An online friend (met him once) who passed away in 2004 dug the best one I have ever seen.  Another friend of mine seen it in person and said the pics are no where close to doing it justice.  Rick was a real credit to the hobby and to relic hunting.  He used to travel around and set up his displays for others to enjoy, and on more than one occasion when someone asked to buy a button he mailed an example to them free of charge.  He was the king of the 89th pewter!


 

Here is a favorite button of mine.  Circa 1800, a 41st of Foot officers.   I am not a historical military expert, but I have read that if not for the reputation of the 41st, the US may have tried to take Canada at the end of the War of 1812.  

   That's a great War of 1812 find!

Thanks IP, I don't think I ever found another like it on the internet.  I've been lucky enough to find two.  I did see a replica somewhere I think, though.

   The 41st buttons are actually one of the more common regimentals the relic hunters dig around the Niagara area.  An online friend (met him once) who passed away in 2004 dug the best one I have ever seen.  Another friend of mine seen it in person and said the pics are no where close to doing it justice.  Rick was a real credit to the hobby and to relic hunting.  He used to travel around and set up his displays for others to enjoy, and on more than one occasion when someone asked to buy a button he mailed an example to them free of charge.  He was the king of the 89th pewter!


 

Wow.  Thanks for the pics.  Do you guys see many of the silver plated officers variety there?  I have several of the pewter 41st.  That's too bad about your friend, he sounds like a great guy..

Here is a favorite button of mine.  Circa 1800, a 41st of Foot officers.   I am not a historical military expert, but I have read that if not for the reputation of the 41st, the US may have tried to take Canada at the end of the War of 1812. 

   That's a great War of 1812 find!

Thanks IP, I don't think I ever found another like it on the internet.  I've been lucky enough to find two.  I did see a replica somewhere I think, though.

   The 41st buttons are actually one of the more common regimentals the relic hunters dig around the Niagara area.  An online friend (met him once) who passed away in 2004 dug the best one I have ever seen.  Another friend of mine seen it in person and said the pics are no where close to doing it justice.  Rick was a real credit to the hobby and to relic hunting.  He used to travel around and set up his displays for others to enjoy, and on more than one occasion when someone asked to buy a button he mailed an example to them free of charge.  He was the king of the 89th pewter!


 

Wow.  Thanks for the pics.  Do you guys see many of the silver plated variety there?  I have several of the pewter 41st.  That's too bad about your friend, he sounds like a great guy..

     He was, and I'm glad you posted it because it's a good thread to show some of Rick's pictures. Man he loved relic hunting!

  I know I have seen several 41st officers over the years but all I can tell you is most were dug around Niagara.  Rick lived and did his detecting more to the South, close to the Detroit River.  What's the backmark on your button it there is one... Nutting, McGowan?

Here is a favorite button of mine.  Circa 1800, a 41st of Foot officers.   I am not a historical military expert, but I have read that if not for the reputation of the 41st, the US may have tried to take Canada at the end of the War of 1812. 

   That's a great War of 1812 find!

Thanks IP, I don't think I ever found another like it on the internet.  I've been lucky enough to find two.  I did see a replica somewhere I think, though.

   The 41st buttons are actually one of the more common regimentals the relic hunters dig around the Niagara area.  An online friend (met him once) who passed away in 2004 dug the best one I have ever seen.  Another friend of mine seen it in person and said the pics are no where close to doing it justice.  Rick was a real credit to the hobby and to relic hunting.  He used to travel around and set up his displays for others to enjoy, and on more than one occasion when someone asked to buy a button he mailed an example to them free of charge.  He was the king of the 89th pewter!


 

Wow.  Thanks for the pics.  Do you guys see many of the silver plated variety there?  I have several of the pewter 41st.  That's too bad about your friend, he sounds like a great guy..

     He was, and I'm glad you posted it because it's a good thread to show some of Rick's pictures. Man he loved relic hunting!

  I know I have seen several 41st officers over the years but all I can tell you is most were dug around Niagara.  Rick lived and did his detecting more to the South, close to the Detroit River.  What's the backmark on your button it there is one... Nutting, McGowan?

One is marked M Murphy Dublin and the other is unmarked.  It's coming back to me now that the part I couldn't match was the pattern of the starburst.  Each maker probably made them slightly different, though, so it's no big deal. 

Here is a favorite button of mine.  Circa 1800, a 41st of Foot officers.   I am not a historical military expert, but I have read that if not for the reputation of the 41st, the US may have tried to take Canada at the end of the War of 1812. 

   That's a great War of 1812 find!

Thanks IP, I don't think I ever found another like it on the internet.  I've been lucky enough to find two.  I did see a replica somewhere I think, though.

   The 41st buttons are actually one of the more common regimentals the relic hunters dig around the Niagara area.  An online friend (met him once) who passed away in 2004 dug the best one I have ever seen.  Another friend of mine seen it in person and said the pics are no where close to doing it justice.  Rick was a real credit to the hobby and to relic hunting.  He used to travel around and set up his displays for others to enjoy, and on more than one occasion when someone asked to buy a button he mailed an example to them free of charge.  He was the king of the 89th pewter!


 

Wow.  Thanks for the pics.  Do you guys see many of the silver plated variety there?  I have several of the pewter 41st.  That's too bad about your friend, he sounds like a great guy..

     He was, and I'm glad you posted it because it's a good thread to show some of Rick's pictures. Man he loved relic hunting!

  I know I have seen several 41st officers over the years but all I can tell you is most were dug around Niagara.  Rick lived and did his detecting more to the South, close to the Detroit River.  What's the backmark on your button it there is one... Nutting, McGowan?

One is marked M Murphy Dublin and the other is unmarked.  It's coming back to me now that the part I couldn't match was the pattern of the starburst.  Each maker probably made them slightly different, though, so it's no big deal. 

  I agree, different makers can probably account for differences and likely why we see several variants for some buttons.  Some day I'd like to find a 41st but odds are against it here, but we do pop a numbered now and again so you never know.

I don't have too many, I think these are military!

I don't have too many, I think these are military!

  Very cool, that looks like an American 1812 period military on the right. If no one ID's it, I will tomorrow.  Backmark?

I don't have too many, I think these are military!

  Very cool, that looks like an American 1812 period military on the right. If no one ID's it, I will tomorrow.  Backmark?

Thanks IP, backmarks gone I'm afraid

I don't have too many, I think these are military!

  Very cool, that looks like an American 1812 period military on the right. If no one ID's it, I will tomorrow.  Backmark?

Thanks IP, backmarks gone I'm afraid

  No biggie, just the face will tell most of the story.

Hey Rovnrbl, those shells look fused. I'd be really careful with those and see about having them defused.

I think this comes from a "Military" musket gun. Certainly not on the typical trade guns that would be found in the fur trade sites.
I love looking at everyone's finds here! Keep 'em coming!
Dave.

  Yes, and it's a nice one!  Musket escutcheon/thumb plate.

I think this comes from a "Military" musket gun. Certainly not on the typical trade guns that would be found in the fur trade sites.
I love looking at everyone's finds here! Keep 'em coming!
Dave.

  Yes, and it's a nice one!  Musket escutcheon/thumb plate.

Thanks I.P.
Confirmation from you is certainly good enough for me. I wasn't completely sure but now I am!
Dave.

   A single round a attachment on the back?  Most are made that way, but I have an early only with a couple of prongs. (just plain though)

that is a real sweet escutcheon Muddy.

that is a real sweet escutcheon Muddy.

  A marked one of these definitely has a place on my want list. Maybe in April!

that is a real sweet escutcheon Muddy.

  A marked one of these definitely has a place on my want list. Maybe in April!

Thanks guys. Yes, it has a single round back attachment. Found it just outside of Winnipeg at another lost site due to development. It was another "Save."
Dave.

I don't have too many, I think these are military!

   Even though the eagle with anchor has an American Naval look I think it's probably a livery.  Is it a flat back, or does it resemble a livery back?

Round 2 for me is an 1830 army issue powder flask less than 5000 made.

Round 3 is 2 pre civil war eagle buttons

I don't have too many, I think these are military!

   Even though the eagle with anchor has an American Naval look I think it's probably a livery.  Is it a flat back, or does it resemble a livery back?

The back is flat IP! Here's some pics, although I think your right because you can see where the backmark should be and it
looks livery-ish.

I don't have too many, I think these are military!

   Even though the eagle with anchor has an American Naval look I think it's probably a livery.  Is it a flat back, or does it resemble a livery back?

The back is flat IP! Here's some pics, although I think your right because you can see where the backmark should be and it
looks livery-ish.

  Livery makes the most sense all things considered.  Thought for a while you beat the odds but I think the odds won.

I don't have too many, I think these are military!

   Even though the eagle with anchor has an American Naval look I think it's probably a livery.  Is it a flat back, or does it resemble a livery back?

The back is flat IP! Here's some pics, although I think your right because you can see where the backmark should be and it
looks livery-ish.

  Livery makes the most sense all things considered.  Thought for a while you beat the odds but I think the odds won.

Oh well, there's always next time

Thanks IP.

Still a nice livery button!

Still a nice livery button!

Thanks Romeo

Still a nice livery button!

Thanks Romeo

   Ok enough of the pats on the back....  Time for round 3! 

Still a nice livery button!

Thanks Romeo

   Ok enough of the pats on the back....  Time for round 3! 

Ok, I was just thinking....even if I don't get a you know what this year, I'm going to beat you trying

Still a nice livery button!

Thanks Romeo

   Ok enough of the pats on the back....  Time for round 3! 

Ok, I was just thinking....even if I don't get a you know what this year, I'm going to beat you trying

   Now you can't even find the word to say it!     

   You might be in the UK, but you still ain't gonna beat me for finds!

Still a nice livery button!

Thanks Romeo

   Ok enough of the pats on the back....  Time for round 3! 

Ok, I was just thinking....even if I don't get a you know what this year, I'm going to beat you trying

   Now you can't even find the word to say it!     

   You might be in the UK, but you still ain't gonna beat me for finds!

Yes I can C C C C C C C C C C C C C  C C C C CC C C C BIG COIN!

And I just might

After Finland civil war (1918) some half-military youth organizations were established. They are called as squirrel-companies. This is Squirrel company medal for distinguish.



On back side of the medal is following text “ 3rd class for distinguish 26.3.1920 ”

-A-

 
a rare piece,I think.

Thank you for showing.

Here's mine   

Here's mine   

ooooh, that's nice

Ok...round three..and a mystery to boot.  Pretty sure it is a cape clasp but no idea who may have worn it...may not even be military but pretty safe bet that it is.